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Hello,
As i am today a not very-pleased s3 owner, i decided that i will give Sony a try for the first time. After looking much at especially the V and the Z, i`ve decided that the Z will be the phone i will enough pleased with.
Anyway, i habe been reeding alot about this phone the last days, and i keep reading that the screen is not "good" enough, and that is something that concerns me.
So i am asking YOU GUYS that are a lucky owner of the Xperia Z; How does the screen feel like? Is it relly THAT bad as people is talking about? I really want this phone. I love sonys interface and water+dust proof is a must for me these days.
I hope someone can give me a good answer.
Appreciated !
Honestly go out and check it out for yourself.
Everyone will and can have their own opinion, but in the end it is your choice.
I for one like it
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DarkKrypt said:
Honestly go out and check it out for yourself.
Everyone will and can have their own opinion, but in the end it is your choice.
I for one like it
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I would love to check it out, but here in Norway we dont get it before 6-10Mars. I went to the store today to check out the display on the Xperia V, and i gotta say i liked it alot more than my Amoled S3.
AW: So is the screen THAT bad?
Screen is just fine. Lots of exageration.
The vieweing angles are sub-premium, this is true, but perfectly ok. First its only the colours which wash out a bit, its not like you wouldnt see anything anymore plus, to be honest, how often and for jow long do you look at your phone flat and sideways...?
I like the screen a lot. Nice colours to look at, insane resolution and pixel density , everything is so damn crisp and clear. I mean hello, its a flaghship after all, they dont dare to put utter bull**** in it. As I said, lots of exaggeration.
TFT with high resolution. Colors are bad.
Regards
Yesterday I tested 3 Xperia Z with bright pixel. But finally got one that has none.
avetny said:
TFT with high resolution. Colors are bad.
Regards
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Depends on your definition of good colors.
When looking at photos vs one x without BE turned on colors are pretty close to the real thing including vibrancy and saturation. Now if you are the kind of person that likes unhealthy yellow skin tones, better than real life colors than yeah colors are no good. When people say it looks washed out they actually mean it is not punchy the truth is that when you look at the real world vs s3 and one x the real world seems to be washed out
Stop this BS already... screen is very good.
The only "problem" with it is colour saturation in UI. When BE2 kicks in, and you're on 60%+ brightness, colours and brightness are amazing. And since BE2 doesn't change the screen's physical properties - it means that the screen itself is perfectly fine. The only thing you can be unhappy with is UI's default saturation values, which are quite low, probably to make the difference between media and UI very noticable.
Also, it's true - "washed out" colours are actually a lot closer to natural colours. If you want very saturated colours all the time - you might not be satisfied. If you want completely oversaturated colours - go for AMOLED, they're amazing in producing rich, highly saturated colours.
For me, coming straight from an S3 to this, it really does look washed out, no mater how you look at it.
However, I think that this is because the S3 had very over saturated colours. If you do decide to go for the XZ, you'll be disappointed at first, but it feels much more premium and you'll start to realise that the S3 seemed like it was in Shop Display Mode all the time!
Ultimately, the choice is yours, but don't be downhearted if you go for it and you're initially unhappy with the screen.
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Which is basically what everyone else has already said here.
Maybe Sony should have added a samsung mode where it sets the saturation up to 120%, the contrast to .800 and maximum brightness to 50% so you can't see anything when outdoors.
I think you'll be happy with the screen if you upgraded from other xperia family phones. But if you will compare it side by side with other 1080 LCD phones like htc butterfly, hell even with HTC One X which has 720P and a year older, Z can't match overall display quality. Trust your eyes. To see is to believe.
HypnOtizer12 said:
Hello,
As i am today a not very-pleased s3 owner, i decided that i will give Sony a try for the first time. After looking much at especially the V and the Z, i`ve decided that the Z will be the phone i will enough pleased with.
Anyway, i habe been reeding alot about this phone the last days, and i keep reading that the screen is not "good" enough, and that is something that concerns me.
So i am asking YOU GUYS that are a lucky owner of the Xperia Z; How does the screen feel like? Is it relly THAT bad as people is talking about? I really want this phone. I love sonys interface and water+dust proof is a must for me these days.
I hope someone can give me a good answer.
Appreciated !
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Got this one from Esato, Xperia Z Screen test
Screen test of xperia z https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH_3Zz045B0 Nice colours and viewing angles
The black is the most black lcd could reach
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Here is a few videos that should help you decide for yourself:
http://youtu.be/DoNQcM8T4c8
http://youtu.be/JH_3Zz045B0
http://youtu.be/P32rdsmgNqU
Got this yesterday and the screen is better than One x and nexus 4 except viewing angles.
The phone is a little laggier than Nexus 4 but faster.
Overall im very impressed.
??????? You ok bro?
Akiainavas said:
Stop this BS already... screen is very good.
Also, it's true - "washed out" colours are actually a lot closer to natural colours. If you want very saturated colours all the time - you might not be satisfied. If you want completely oversaturated colours - go for AMOLED, they're amazing in producing rich, highly saturated colours.
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All Sony screens are very good from my past experience, people are just used to over saturated colors that other companies do to their phones. Also, you eyes will strain much less when you look at Sony screens for extended period of times.
Also, I don't understand what's with the ruckus of angle viewing, seriously, how many of you out there actively view the screen from a angle? its just retarded to compare that, it's not even a point.
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I personally really like the screen. I hated the screen on the s3 and thought the colours looked unnatural and oversaturated. With the XZ, while it may be 'washed out' to some, I actually find the colours, contrast, etc. quite nice to look at and natural. The s3 and the like hurt my eyes. Plus viewing angles aren't half as bad as I expected them to be given all the hysteria regarding them prior to release.
I posted this in the other thread "clearing up the....."
"I have now spent 48 hours with my XZ in the UK. I really like the display. It is sharp, vibrant and realistic in terms of colour and saturation. I could not get on with the amoled display of the HTC desire and the samsung galaxy. Too unrealistic imho. The bravia engine takes it to another level for movies and pictures: It will impress your friends!
I was hesitating with the iminent release of the HTC one. I have absolutley no regrets. It is a beautiful phone and a beautiful display."
well if the only downside is "bad view angles" and "low sturation" its great display because
1. i look my fone from front not side
2. i dont like too saturated colours (red must be red not burning red example)
3. resolution n ppi is high enough to make clear and nice pic
here is some screen comparisons
vs iphone 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duWECOuUhb8#t=632s
vs SG3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHmvUeMWAu8#t=644s
its in german so you might wanna turn translation on
and here is some first impressions & talk about the screen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P32rdsmgNqU
Overall it looks like a pretty good screen, if you dont care about viewing angles that much you will like it
Hi All,
I'm looking at getting the new Moto X for my partner as her birthday present. Would everyone recommend it?
We have seen online a small review that stated the battery was a little smaller than the battery in something like a s5, what is the battery life in "real use"? Is it enough to last her the day with medium use?
I've also seen that the camera struggles in low light, to me its not a problem but she has asked me to ask you guys if anyone knows of any updates to try and correct that?
Thanks for your help!
Darren
Yes definitely. Make use of moto maker to design to her liking! It'll last a day's normal usage easily for me. I get 3-5 hours screen on time everyday depending on whether I'm using data or WiFi.
Camera is good in day light, especially in normal shots, struggles a little in macro shots. Low light performance isn't great, but lollipop is touted to bring quite some camera improvements. Overall, go for it
Install Snap Camera, its got lots and lots of features yet a minimal onscreen interface. Keep the ISO at 100 or 200 and low light photos should also come out with lesser noise.
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Hi All,
I'm looking at getting the new Moto X for my partner as her birthday present. Would everyone recommend it?
We have seen online a small review that stated the battery was a little smaller than the battery in something like a s5, what is the battery life in "real use"? Is it enough to last her the day with medium use?
I've also seen that the camera struggles in low light, to me its not a problem but she has asked me to ask you guys if anyone knows of any updates to try and correct that?
Thanks for your help!
Darren
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Battery life is better than the modest size would suggest - I'm currently able to get around 4.5 to 5.5 hours of screen on time. It will definitely last a full day with medium use.
Low light performance is average - I personally find you can take better shots if you enable the "control of focus and exposure" setting and choose the focal point yourself. Low light shots ultimately will have a tendency to come out noisy and a bit blurry. In the greater scheme of things it's not that bad as far as smartphone cameras go (they all suck in low light to some degree) so I wouldn't class it as a deal breaker.
Stylus_XL;56568603. In the greater scheme of things it's not that bad as far as smartphone cameras go (they all suck in low light to some degree) so I wouldn't class it as a deal breaker.[/QUOTE said:
Thanks. I'll have a chat with her and she want she wants, no doubt she will change her mind and want a nexus 6 when that's fully launched.
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The battery does surprisingly well, but if you want a decent camera go LG or Samsung.
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I did some comparative shots with one of my work colleagues. He has a Samsung Galaxy S9+. We took the same photos in the same conditions and all his photos were sharper, more detailed and with less noise. Even low light shots where I had night mode enabled, his still took better pictures and he doesn't even have night mode.
Pretty disappointing.
upload the samples, let us judge it too
I've come from the S9+ and the Mate 20 Pro is better
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I did some comparative shots with one of my work colleagues. He has a Samsung Galaxy S9+. We took the same photos in the same conditions and all his photos were sharper, more detailed and with less noise. Even low light shots where I had night mode enabled, his still took better pictures and he doesn't even have night mode.
Pretty disappointing.
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Hmm.... I don't have so but I have s8 to compare.. Mp20 takes way better pictures in any situations.. Please post the samples you are comparing.. Maybe it's just the Samsung screen is better than our Mp20.
I'm also coming from the S9+ and the shots on the Mate 20 Pro are consistently better, with more details.
What I noticed, though, is that OIS on the S9+ seems to be superior to the stabilization on the M20Pro - specifically in low light situations. But we are talking about subtle nuances here ....
I think camera is superb
My mate 20 pro camera is way better at night than my note 9 ugly camera
You got defective unit, the only camera that beats mate at times, is the Pixel.
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You got defective unit, the only camera that beats mate at times, is the Pixel.
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ok, I have this problem too!
Bought a mate 20 pro yesterday and today I was comparing the pictures with the S9 and the Mate and all of them are way better with more detail in the S9.
I'm in panic now!
i will post the comparative pictures.
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Left one is from a Galaxy S9 and the right one is the Mate.
sousa_2005 said:
ok, I have this problem too!
Bought a mate 20 pro yesterday and today I was comparing the pictures with the S9 and the Mate and all of them are way better with more detail in the S9.
I'm in panic now!
i will post the comparative pictures.
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Left one is from a Galaxy S9 and the right one is the Mate.
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The photo you took is totally different composition, the monitor LED light might effect the result also. Should take a photo with same composition.
another ones
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don't know why the S9 image stays always upside down after uploading..
pogi.paul0119 said:
Hmm.... I don't have so but I have s8 to compare.. Mp20 takes way better pictures in any situations.. Please post the samples you are comparing.. Maybe it's just the Samsung screen is better than our Mp20.
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Do you think the m20p is a good upgrade from the s8/s8+ especially including the free pre order gifts?
anyone know if this phone has diferent camera sensores like samsung (Sony and samsung sensor)?
I can't believe that my S9 with only one camera take way BETTER shots than the Mate 20 pro.
Too much disappointed with this!
Don't know if I'm doing anything wrong...
I bought this because I was tired of the Samsung ui and the slow (NO) updates... but payed a lot more for this phone and comparing the pictures.. 90% of them are worst than the S9.
The pictures in the Huawei are way more darker...
first- S9
Second -Mate
Auto Setting in both phones.
Huawei with AI off
merewood bebox said:
Do you think the m20p is a good upgrade from the s8/s8+ especially including the free pre order gifts?
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Well yeah.. The phone itself is nice. Good upgrade if your coming from s8..
Ok, while I really like this phone for it's camera capabilities, it's fair to say my experience with the M20Pro shooter has been a bit mixed. I am coming from a S7 edge (great camera for its time). My girlfriend has an iPhone XS, so that's also a good reference.
The good: the wide angle lens is amazing, great for pictures of architecture and nature, shots look dramatic and fairly unique. Night mode is also good, when it get's it right, it renders a really impressive picture. Portrait mode is a bit agressive, but does an above average job bluring the foreground as well as the backgroud. Aperture mode is neat and more natural looking than portrait. AI is ok, it get's things right more often than not. I haven't used much the 3x zoom yet, but I guess it can come in handy.
The bad: no optical image stabilization - it may seem like nitpicking, but this phone takes a lot of blured shaky picures for a flagship, especially in low light situations. You may find yourself having to have to hold it steady and firm for a good second or two in some situations to get a usable shot. If you're trying to take pictures from moving subjects, like pets or kids, this device is not your greatest friend. The dinamic range is also not the best, lagging significantly behind iPhone and Pixel - the shadows tend to be darker while the highlights do blow sometimes. I found that a little post production goes a long way with the M20P shots - when you recover those shadows, add a tad of sharpness and maybe a bit of saturation you can make a rather dull pic look amazing - but I can understand how the average user might not want to go throught that. Also not great is the HDR, firstly because it's a separate hidden mode in the extras (when it should be a toggle always readily available on the interface), secondly because, as mentioned, while usable, it's not top class - and again the lack of OIS makes things trickier.
All in all, I am mostly pleased with this camera because of its versatility. You can acomplish pictures with the M20P that no other phone can match - like a wide angle night shot. Having said that, it's certainly not the best point and shoot phone camera out there - to get the most of it you have to wrestle through the endless menus and modes and sometimes work a bit on the post production. So, if you don't care abou the wide angle lens and just want a phone camera that spits out eye catching images 9 times out of 10, I guess you could be better served with a Pixel 3, iPhone Xs or even a Galaxy S/Note 9.
Those are my two cents, but I'm curious to read what you guys think.
Cheers.
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Ok, while I really like this phone for it's camera capabilities, it's fair to say my experience with the M20Pro shooter has been a bit mixed. I am coming from a S7 edge (great camera for its time). My girlfriend has an iPhone XS, so that's also a good reference.
The good: the wide angle lens is amazing, .....
Those are my two cents, but I'm curious to read what you guys think.
Cheers.
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Nice sharing, agreed the M20P photo is not the best in certain situation, video too, but i bought it just because the wide angle camera, the huge battery and the fast charging.
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sousa_2005 said:
anyone know if this phone has diferent camera sensores like samsung (Sony and samsung sensor)?
I can't believe that my S9 with only one camera take way BETTER shots than the Mate 20 pro.
Too much disappointed with this!
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first- S9
Second -Mate
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Hi there, what firmware you are on?
Mine is 9.0.0.126, seem like ok.
sousa_2005 said:
anyone know if this phone has diferent camera sensores like samsung (Sony and samsung sensor)?
I can't believe that my S9 with only one camera take way BETTER shots than the Mate 20 pro.
Too much disappointed with this!
Don't know if I'm doing anything wrong...
I bought this because I was tired of the Samsung ui and the slow (NO) updates... but payed a lot more for this phone and comparing the pictures.. 90% of them are worst than the S9.
The pictures in the Huawei are way more darker...
first- S9
Second -Mate
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40mp or 10 mp ?
to use 40, you need are really well lit environment, otherwise its always 10 mp for hdr effect.
hi just know what happened ..... shame on me...
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hi just know what happened ..... shame on me...
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And?
Hello I'm from india and the phone is launching on 17th july here and today i prebooked it but have some questions regarding it can u guys pls help
1. Display- How's the screen quality i know its amoled but how good the panel is i use to own s6 edge and the amoled on s6e is just awesome now I'm having lg v20 and it has LCD now i like it but i also like samsung flagship amoled panels so asking how's the amoled panel on k20pro and what about comparison to other amoled phones like op7 and other
2. ROM- i dont like miui much so asking will there be custom roms in future for this device like stock android roms?
3. Touch issues- does this phone really have touch issues?
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Hello I'm from india and the phone is launching on 17th july here and today i prebooked it but have some questions regarding it can u guys pls help
1. Display- How's the screen quality i know its amoled but how good the panel is i use to own s6 edge and the amoled on s6e is just awesome now I'm having lg v20 and it has LCD now i like it but i also like samsung flagship amoled panels so asking how's the amoled panel on k20pro and what about comparison to other amoled phones like op7 and other
2. ROM- i dont like miui much so asking will there be custom roms in future for this device like stock android roms?
3. Touch issues- does this phone really have touch issues?
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1 The display looks completely fine to me. If you want to test it under laboratory conditions, it might only get average results or it might get great results. It's irrelevant to me. To my eyes it's definitely more than good enough.
2. Who knows the future? If a large number of POCO F1 devs move onto this phone, then it should have a healthy custom ROM scene.
3. Not that I've noticed, but then I don't play the sort of games where any issues would be noticeable.
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1 The display looks completely fine to me. If you want to test it under laboratory conditions, it might only get average results or it might get great results. It's irrelevant to me. To my eyes it's definitely more than good enough.
2. Who knows the future? If a large number of POCO F1 devs move onto this phone, then it should have a healthy custom ROM scene.
3. Not that I've noticed, but then I don't play the sort of games where any issues would be noticeable.
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1. The thing is i have always used flagship phones and when i view budget phone display i just dont like them thats y i asked there are lots of comparison regarding camera, performance etc on youtube but display comparisons thats y i asked
2. Asking this because it has a elevating camera coz of this there may be few development for this phone? Correct me if I'm wrong
3. No problem some users saying that its fixed in new updates
Thanks for replying
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1. The thing is i have always used flagship phones and when i view budget phone display i just dont like them thats y i asked there are lots of comparison regarding camera, performance etc on youtube but display comparisons thats y i asked
2. Asking this because it has a elevating camera coz of this there may be few development for this phone? Correct me if I'm wrong
3. No problem some users saying that its fixed in new updates
Thanks for replying
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1. It's a FHD+ (1080) Samsung AMOLED display, it's a long way from a budget phone display. It isn't the best display Samsung make, but it's still very good. It won't have the most accurate colour rendition, it won't have the greatest dynamic range, it won't have the highest brightness. But in everyday use you will not notice that it's not the absolute best. Unless you're a serious photographer, wanting to see your work on the phone, or if want to watch HDR+ movies on the phone, then it's more than good enough.
2. The developer of the only actively worked on LOS GSI has done some great work to activate the front cam whenever any app wants to use it. This fix is slowly working it's way into other GSI ROMs. There is still an issue with the front cam popping up when the phone first boots, but it's early days and the phone's not yet been released globally. If enough devs get their hands on it, when it's more widely released, we should see some custom ROMs specific for the phone.
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1. It's a FHD+ (1080) Samsung AMOLED display, it's a long way from a budget phone display. It isn't the best display Samsung make, but it's still very good. It won't have the most accurate colour rendition, it won't have the greatest dynamic range, it won't have the highest brightness. But in everyday use you will not notice that it's not the absolute best. Unless you're a serious photographer, wanting to see your work on the phone, or if want to watch HDR+ movies on the phone, then it's more than good enough.
2. The developer of the only actively worked on LOS GSI has done some great work to activate the front cam whenever any app wants to use it. This fix is slowly working it's way into other GSI ROMs. There is still an issue with the front cam popping up when the phone first boots, but it's early days and the phone's not yet been released globally. If enough devs get their hands on it, when it's more widely released, we should see some custom ROMs specific for the phone.
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Thanks a lot brother appreciate you replied and cleared my doubt :good: thanks again
Is there any fix for contrast in GCam? It's really too much and abnormal. I've tried tweaking MGC BSG mod but no luck.
While GCam Go works perfectly. Even the anx port gives good pictures but it's compatibility with A12 ROMs is limited. Works only on miui vendor ROMs. Please do share any good XML and gcam port combination for more accurate skin tone like anx cam.
Did you look at the images on a color calibrated monitor?
Compare images for both modules on a color calibrated monitor.
Compare contrast curves of both before you decide which one is best.
Phone display calibration can be way off. I avoid doing contrast curve editing on the phone because of this.
Welcome to the wide, wide world of color calibration... it has a very steep learning curve.
Have look in this xda thread.
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Good luck
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Did you look at the images on a color calibrated monitor?
Compare images for both modules on a color calibrated monitor.
Compare contrast curves of both before you decide which one is best.
Phone display calibration can be way off. I avoid doing contrast curve editing on the phone because of this.
Welcome to the wide, wide world of color calibration... it has a very steep learning curve.
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That's something I must try but I've compared images from two different cams on same screen so screen is not the issue I guess. Anyway I'll definitely try to compare them on my work desktop which I use for graphic design and video editing purposes
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That's something I must try but I've compared images from two different cams on same screen so screen is not the issue I guess. Anyway I'll definitely try to compare them on my work desktop which I use for graphic design and video editing purposes
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Without a color calibrated monitor and throughput it's impossible to tell. I know my Note 10+'s throughput and display are almost dead on as I checked it with a color chart out of curiosity.
Variable displays will have a lower color rendering index; they are very difficult to factory calibrate.
Please keep GCam questions and discussions in the
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