Having a problem finding screenshots. What I've read online screenshots are found in Samsung's Gallery App in Albums/Screenshots. After checking there was no Screenshots Folder in Albums so I created a Screenshots Folder in Albums. Took more Screenshots, folder is empty. Installed a different File Manager, looked everywhere, still nothing. Where else could they be?
varcor said:
Having a problem finding screenshots. What I've read online screenshots are found in Samsung's Gallery App in Albums/Screenshots. After checking there was no Screenshots Folder in Albums so I created a Screenshots Folder in Albums. Took more Screenshots, folder is empty. Installed a different File Manager, looked everywhere, still nothing. Where else could they be?
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Did you "de-bloat" any Samsung apps or services aggressively? If so, it could've screwed something up deep inside Samsung's convoluted app inter-dependency. Just a guess. Have you modified the phone software in any way (besides changing regular user-facing settings)?
No debloat of any type. Haven't made any substantial changes to the software or UI either. I've found previous screenshots on the Ultra from backup files of my S10+ in Smartswitch but no screenshots I've snapped with the Ultra. The screenshot function works but God knows if they're being saved and if so, where.
Hopefully I can resolve this without flashing new software, I've got a TON of data on the only drive available, Internal. Thanks to whoever the clowns are at Samsung who decided that MicroSD was expendable. They ought hunt those idiots down and shoot em!
varcor said:
No debloat of any type. Haven't made any substantial changes to the software or UI either. I've found previous screenshots on the Ultra from backup files of my S10+ in Smartswitch but no screenshots I've snapped with the Ultra. The screenshot function works but God knows if they're being saved and if so, where.
Hopefully I can resolve this without flashing new software, I've got a TON of data on the only drive available, Internal. Thanks to whoever the clowns are at Samsung who decided that MicroSD was expendable. They ought hunt those idiots down and shoot em!
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I'm stumped. No idea why screenshots aren't appearing in gallery. Have you considered wiping cache and storage from gallery and seeing it that fixes it?
Problem resolved, plugged the device into Smartswitch via my laptop. It stated Update Available which was a bit of a surprise since I received an OTA Update just a few days back. It took much longer than an OTA Update, over an hour but reflects the July 1st Android Security Patch is installed. Curious if this is a widespread bug which the update fixed or the pre-update device scan detected the problem on my device and modified the update. Bottom line, I'm stoked. Thanks for your input, appreciated!
varcor said:
Problem resolved, plugged the device into Smartswitch via my laptop. It stated Update Available which was a bit of a surprise since I received an OTA Update just a few days back. It took much longer than an OTA Update, over an hour but reflects the July 1st Android Security Patch is installed. Curious if this is a widespread bug which the update fixed or the pre-update device scan detected the problem on my device and modified the update. Bottom line, I'm stoked!
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No idea if it's widespread. Haven't encountered this report on XDA or any of the other corners of the internet that i frequent. Lets see if your thread attracts other users affected by this bug, if they're lurking in the dark
But I'm happy you got it sorted out.
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No idea if it's widespread. Haven't encountered this report on XDA or any of the other corners of the internet that i frequent. Lets see if your thread attracts other users affected by this bug, if they're lurking in the dark
But I'm happy you got it sorted out.
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Do you have a Screenshot Folder in the Gallery Albums? Have you checked to see if your screenshots are stored in that folder?
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Do you have a Screenshot Folder in the Gallery Albums? Have you checked to see if your screenshots are stored in that folder?
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Yup. It's there. Always been there from the day I got the phone.
varcor said:
Having a problem finding screenshots. What I've read online screenshots are found in Samsung's Gallery App in Albums/Screenshots. After checking there was no Screenshots Folder in Albums so I created a Screenshots Folder in Albums. Took more Screenshots, folder is empty. Installed a different File Manager, looked everywhere, still nothing. Where else could they be?
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I had a cookie yesterday and found it quite dry, maybe it's a problem with too much storage. I know my 256GB version has a screenshot gallery. I'm so mad about the cookie though.
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I had a cookie yesterday and found it quite dry, maybe it's a problem with too much storage. I know my 256GB version has a screenshot gallery. I'm so mad about the cookie though.
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Your 256GB version is actually 200GB. Be sure to notify Samsung when your bland cookie runs out storage space. Better yet take a look in the mirror for where the blame actually lies.
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Your 256GB version is actually 200GB. Be sure to notify Samsung when your bland cookie runs out storage space. Better yet take a look in the mirror for where the blame actually lies.
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I won't run out of space for a long time. I have 7k+ photos but all in the cloud (two services for backups) and stream music (Spotify is clever at caching). Most people use the cloud and don't need the storage so I suspect the internal storage will eventually plateau and not get bigger in future phones.
So you have to pay for Cloud Storage every month which isn't very secure as many CS platforms have already been hacked. Too bad you don't have an MicroSD or 512GB's of internal storage, you could have avoided those troubling issues. Glad you're so happy with your device even though you picked a Exynos variant with the problematic SoC most users try to avoid. But I'm the one who bought the wrong smartphone? Thanks, I needed a good laugh!
varcor said:
So you have to pay for Cloud Storage every month which isn't very secure as many CS platforms have already been hacked. Too bad you don't have an MicroSD or 512GB's of internal storage, you could have avoided those troubling issues. Glad you're so happy with your device even though you picked a Exynos variant with the problematic SoC most users try to avoid. But I'm the one who bought the wrong smartphone? Thanks, I needed a good laugh!
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Google and MS cloud storage have not been hacked. An SD card is the least secure way to store data, if someone steals my phone they have to crack the security to access the contents. They steal a phone with SD card they just eject it which has no security protection. AS for pay I get free MS Office 265 yearly (5 users with 5TB each) and pay £11 a year for 100GB on google. So a total of £11 a year, a lot cheaper than an SD card. And I'm not restricted by read/writes limit like SD cards memory is, my cloud storage won't suddenly need replacing because it's starting to fail.
Exynos problematic? Get over yourself, it's been great from day one. Plus it does not overheat like the SD is (lots of reports on that). As for "bought the wrong phone", I like my phone and am happy with it, yet you constantly moan about yours not having an SD card so we both know who bought the wrong phone. Unless you are happy without an SD card?
"Google and MS cloud storage have not been hacked"
Oh really? You haven't been paying attention!
Open Cloud Database Exposes 200 Million Americans
Experts revealed that an unauthorized party compromised more than 200 million user records hosted somewhere within the U.S. in a Google Cloud database. Many people are now so accustomed to cloud computing that they use it multiple times per day, whether to collaborate with co-workers, log into...
securityaffairs.co
"Exynos problematic? Get over yourself"
Sorry for your delusion, it's not just me, it's the experts who know far more than you ever will about SoC's!
Samsung Still Has an Exynos Problem
Why Samsung Insists on Using Their In-House Chips
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"They steal a phone with SD card they just eject it which has no security protection"
Again you are spreading falsehoods, any SD Card can easily be encrypted on Galaxy devices with external memory.
varcor said:
"Google and MS cloud storage have not been hacked"
Oh really? You haven't been paying attention!
Open Cloud Database Exposes 200 Million Americans
Experts revealed that an unauthorized party compromised more than 200 million user records hosted somewhere within the U.S. in a Google Cloud database. Many people are now so accustomed to cloud computing that they use it multiple times per day, whether to collaborate with co-workers, log into...
securityaffairs.co
"Exynos problematic? Get over yourself"
Sorry for your delusion, it's not just me, it's the experts who know far more than you ever will about SoC's!
Samsung Still Has an Exynos Problem
Why Samsung Insists on Using Their In-House Chips
medium.com
"They steal a phone with SD card they just eject it which has no security protection"
Again you are spreading falsehoods, any SD Card can easily be encrypted on Galaxy devices with external memory.
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Read the articles you posted. An unsecured database hosted on Google Cloud was accessed. A bit like you blaming your car maker for the car being robbed since you left the keys in the door. Are you really that desperate to be right that you will accept the most basic of premises for a "hack"? It wasn't hacked it was open!
As for Exybos article, it was talking about the S10 version which we all know was bad, but we all know that is not the one in the S21. There is nothing wrong with the S21 version and it runs fine for me, I'm sorry I'm not frustrated at my chip to justify your lust for righteousness but the CPU. Lots of people have the Exynos version and the world seems quite happy about it. As for spreading falsehoods, you're doing the same thing the article does not say it's bad in fact a quote says;
Like mentioned before, Samsung set out to change these horrendous drawbacks with the arrival of the S21 lineup. Their Exynos 2100 chip is not horrible, by any means, but it still isn’t up to par with the Snapdragon 888.
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Good news you can encrypt your SD card, at least it is safe then. Obviously the downside is that if your phone breaks or will not boot you've lost data on it that you did not sync (via the could usually). But at least nobody else can get it either.
I'm going to leave you to rant on this if you wish, I cannot be bothered reading any more baseless articles about loosely related "issues". Your responses are lacking and this is boring me, feel free to rant back but I'll not be bothering anymore with their lame "discussion".
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Read the articles you posted. An unsecured database hosted on Google Cloud was accessed. A bit like you blaming your car maker for the car being robbed since you left the keys in the door. Are you really that desperate to be right that you will accept the most basic of premises for a "hack"? It wasn't hacked it was open!
As for Exybos article, it was talking about the S10 version which we all know was bad, but we all know that is not the one in the S21. There is nothing wrong with the S21 version and it runs fine for me, I'm sorry I'm not frustrated at my chip to justify your lust for righteousness but the CPU. Lots of people have the Exynos version and the world seems quite happy about it. As for spreading falsehoods, you're doing the same thing the article does not say it's bad in fact a quote says;
Good news you can encrypt your SD card, at least it is safe then. Obviously the downside is that if your phone breaks or will not boot you've lost data on it that you did not sync (via the could usually). But at least nobody else can get it either.
I'm going to leave you to rant on this if you wish, I cannot be bothered reading any more baseless articles about loosely related "issues". Your responses are lacking and this is boring me, feel free to rant back but I'll not be bothering anymore with their lame "discussion".
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"Read the articles you posted"
I've read the article, copy and pasted in case you are unclear if it was actually a hack. An "Unauthorized Party" accessing a database is by definition a hack.
A Massive Hack of a Google Cloud Database
A recent event highlights just how severe the matter can become if an unauthorized party gets into a cloud-hosted database. A research team from CyberNews revealed that an unauthorized party compromised more than 200 million user records hosted somewhere within the U.S. in a Google Cloud database.
If you chose to remain in denial that's on you. I won't be confronting your disinformation any longer, I've got other fish to fry. But since I possess a significant resivour of benevolence I'd be remiss if I failed to pass on some sage words of advice before I permanently ignore you.
Next time you find yourself in a deep hole, stop digging!
Toodles
Open Cloud Database Exposes 200 Million Americans
Experts revealed that an unauthorized party compromised more than 200 million user records hosted somewhere within the U.S. in a Google Cloud database. Many people are now so accustomed to cloud computing that they use it multiple times per day, whether to collaborate with co-workers, log into...
securityaffairs.co
Regarding the information in the main folder holding personal information, the research team said the structure of the content made them believe a data marketing or credit-related company owned it.
Google Cloud Platform (CGP) is one of the major cloud providers operating in today’s marketplace. Although this is not a direct Google data breach because no evidence suggests the mega tech company owned the information, this news may make people think twice before becoming a CGP customer.
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The article you linked is a rewrite of an article at cybernews here https://cybernews.com/security/report-unidentified-database-exposes-200-million-americans/
The database is located in the US and hosted on a Google Cloud server that has been exposed for an unknown period. When we last accessed the database before the wipe, it contained close to 800 gigabytes of data, including the hundreds of millions of records of highly sensitive personal user data that we outlined above. The database itself is still online and accessible but no longer contains any records.
While it’s unclear if any malicious actors have accessed the database before the wipe on March 3 or if the data was erased by a blackhat hacker, anyone who knew where to look could have accessed the data, without needing any kind of authentication.
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They state exposed not hacked. Google was not hacked, someone had an unsecured database on there. If Google cloud had been hacked it would be on major news sites but your linking minor security sites. Get your head out of the cloud and read the stuff you post, stop reading headlines and ranting about them. Your proof in the CyberNews article does not use the word hack at all, it clearly states a database was unsecured and exposed. All you have proved so far is that you cannot find any proof that Google was hacked.. Google cloud storage has not been hacked yet. The old Google+ API was abused in 2018 but they only got profile data by scraping it through an API.
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hi guys..if you are poor but does't wanna get lost in the wild here are the free map links for our tomtom software..
Mods if this is something i shouldn't share please delete it..in this links there are maps for almost the whole world..USA icluded
here is the second one
all free,from the bottom of my heart
MOD EDIT: As you guess per your statement above, Warez is not allowed - links deleted. (anyway poor people don't own these phones and if they are lost in the wild it's 'cos a wild animal has dragged them off the barren famine afflicted desert where they practice subsistence farming and govt militia abduct the women folk for the dictators nefarious prostitution racket.)
hayaticik said:
hi guys..if you are poor but does't wanna get lost in the wild here are the free map links for our tomtom software..
Mods if this is something i shouldn't share please delete it..in this links there are maps for almost the whole world..USA icluded
here is the second one
all free,from the bottom of my heart
MOD EDIT: As you guess per your statement above, Warez is not allowed - links deleted. (anyway poor people don't own these phones and if they are lost in the wild it's 'cos a wild animal has dragged them off the barren famine afflicted desert where they practice subsistence farming and govt militia abduct the women folk for the dictators nefarious prostitution racket.)
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haha. nice comment.
cool..thanks for the educating comment and deleting the links
Mod comment is in bad taste!!!
hayaticik said:
MOD EDIT: As you guess per your statement above, Warez is not allowed - links deleted. (anyway poor people don't own these phones and if they are lost in the wild it's 'cos a wild animal has dragged them off the barren famine afflicted desert where they practice subsistence farming and govt militia abduct the women folk for the dictators nefarious prostitution racket.)
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I welcome the removal of wares by the moderator above. Unfortunately his enthusiasm went overboard with subsequent comments about poor people I don't believe this forum is only for the "RICH" because I consider myself poor, and have been here a long time and owned many of these exclusive devices for the "rich".
I think that comment is not neccessary when you are correcting a bad situation. Let us stick to what we are doing here and leave our personal prejudices behind.
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Let us stick to what we are doing here and leave our personal prejudices behind.
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You are so right. Those dictators can't be that nefarious. After all, they have to feed all those women once they are "acquired."
victoradjei said:
I welcome the removal of wares by the moderator above. Unfortunately his enthusiasm went overboard with subsequent comments about poor people I don't believe this forum is only for the "RICH" because I consider myself poor, and have been here a long time and owned many of these exclusive devices for the "rich".
I think that comment is not neccessary when you are correcting a bad situation. Let us stick to what we are doing here and leave our personal prejudices behind.
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It was meant to be funny, there is no place for thinned skinned people, get a sense of humor.
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It was meant to be funny, there is no place for thinned skinned people, get a sense of humor.
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I am very thickskinned. But if this is the kind of humour you like, it is certainly twisted
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I am very thickskinned. But if this is the kind of humour you like, it is certainly twisted
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I'm in trouble again I see. No offence meant and apologies for any caused.
As for "twisted" - others must decide!
That's my problem you see, I find humor a better tool for getting points across without causing offence or appearing dictatorial. However, humor can be misunderstood - is this funny:
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Well, it is to me
Not to the guy about to be shot out of picture I guess
Mike
I posted the free map links..and personally I got that you weren't serious with that comment..as a proud poor guy ,I just ordered the Att tilt today
hayaticik said:
I posted the free map links..and personally I got that you weren't serious with that comment..as a proud poor guy ,I just ordered the Att tilt today
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"Please Mr Att, can I have a Tilt"
Mike
Is there a specific version of maps for TomTom that work? Their site currently doesn't seem to be selling maps alone, so was wondering if any SD card with TomTom maps will work (I assume you would transfer them over to a microSD card).
Hi!
I note that you wrote " there are maps for almost the whole world "
Bit too much to ask you to list the countries, but was Japan included? I guess not !!
Ofiaich
maryjos said:
Is there a specific version of maps for TomTom that work? Their site currently doesn't seem to be selling maps alone, so was wondering if any SD card with TomTom maps will work (I assume you would transfer them over to a microSD card).
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Version 6 maps work fine. You add the maps to your SD card in a folder with a title given by tomtom (eg GB_Plus_Major_Maps_of_Europe). This folder is normally in the root of directory of the SD card. You would not normally have an SD card with tomtom maps alone on it as that would mean swapping in and out SD cards when you wanted to use tomtom.
Mike
Well, looks like the HTC ROM does not have TomTom as some people thought? You can sometimes get just the SD card with maps on Ebay fairly cheap so I was hoping I might be able to do that, rather than having to pay $120+ for the software and maps...plus the additional cost of a microSD card to hold them (how much space do they need?)
I'm basically looking for a fairly low-cost way to use the GPS on the device. I already have GPS nav in my car so I wouldn't need it very often, but it's nice to have when you travel or are in someone else's car. I may just end up seeing if I can use AT&T's service, turning it on and off as needed. But that would probably be a last resort.
maryjos said:
Well, looks like the HTC ROM does not have TomTom as some people thought? You can sometimes get just the SD card with maps on Ebay fairly cheap so I was hoping I might be able to do that, rather than having to pay $120+ for the software and maps...plus the additional cost of a microSD card to hold them (how much space do they need?)
I'm basically looking for a fairly low-cost way to use the GPS on the device. I already have GPS nav in my car so I wouldn't need it very often, but it's nice to have when you travel or are in someone else's car. I may just end up seeing if I can use AT&T's service, turning it on and off as needed. But that would probably be a last resort.
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google maps, if you don't mind data costs. I also hear that you can find lots of pirated material on the interweb. Such brand names as Igo and TomTom are easily found, often cracked and ready to install, if you can swallow your morals long enough to wait for the download to finish...
Seriously, we are all adults here. Seek and ye shall find... (i.e. use some sort of search engine)
take this link for example http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&q=+gps+software+ppc+torrent
maryjos said:
Well, looks like the HTC ROM does not have TomTom as some people thought? You can sometimes get just the SD card with maps on Ebay fairly cheap so I was hoping I might be able to do that, rather than having to pay $120+ for the software and maps...plus the additional cost of a microSD card to hold them (how much space do they need?)
I'm basically looking for a fairly low-cost way to use the GPS on the device. I already have GPS nav in my car so I wouldn't need it very often, but it's nice to have when you travel or are in someone else's car. I may just end up seeing if I can use AT&T's service, turning it on and off as needed. But that would probably be a last resort.
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No you are right, Tomtom is not in any of the ROMs it came on a CD (not installed), and even then not all areas of the world got Tomtom on the CD.
You would easily get the maps you use on an SD card alongside your other stuff. I have a backup SD I used to use which is only 1Gb and I had tons of apps a few photos various odds and ends and Tomtom GB maps plus major roads of western Europe.
Mike
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(how much space do they need?)
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Latest USA map will set you back 1.42GB
Okay, anything under 2 gig would be quite reasonable. Oh well, maybe I'll get lucky and find a cheap copy somewhere. I'd rather not use warez, I'm a software author myself, and morally don't care for stealing just because you don't want to pay what they are charging.
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Okay, anything under 2 gig would be quite reasonable. Oh well, maybe I'll get lucky and find a cheap copy somewhere. I'd rather not use warez, I'm a software author myself, and morally don't care for stealing just because you don't want to pay what they are charging.
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Well 99.9999999% of those eBay "cheap copies" are warez - just so you know.
i was little over my head with that line no Japan wasn't included..
I'm just getting started with CM7 and the Nook Color, but I have some general security concerns that perhaps you could help me with?
1. Viruses. I understand that these are real in Android. I've temporarily disabled non-Market apps, but I believe viruses and/or spyware have shown up in Market Apps too. Are there decent AntiVirus apps and what do you recommend?
2. Firewall. What services are open by default? Are there good software firewalls available?
3. Adware. Is it always clear which Market apps are ad-supported? Have apps crossed the line into malicious or near-malicious spyware? (Taking over browsers, redirecting home pages or searches, infecting other apps, etc.)
4. Apparently Google does not require password-confirmation for Market purchases, and no real solution exists, since available apps complicate things and don't address the root issue. Do they have any plans to change that?
5. Where are application and web site passwords, WiFi keys, and the like stored, and are they encrypted?
6. Is there a multi-user / multi-profile facility to allow different users to log in to different desktops and/or applications? (Or is that best accomplished with dual booting.)
7. What major applications are known to "phone home" or otherwise divulge more information than might be expected? I was quite surprised that CM7 itself phones home to CyanogenMod by default, and even with that turned off the ROM Manager still reports usage statistics to Google?
8. Is anyone independently reviewing CyanogenMod itself for privacy and security implications? Right now many of us are relying on a hodgepodge of hacker contributions and the good will of those creating them. I'm sure that anything malicious would eventually come to light, but is anyone proactively checking out the release CM7 distribution, the GApps distribution, and the various installers and packagers? Right now the only verifiable "web of trust" that seems to exist is the good intentions of every contributor, and the general availability of the source code (which should make the review possible, if not particularly easy!).
9. Are there any "best practices" as a user? For example, I've set up a new GMail ID for use with the NC, and haven't yet linked any credit card or payment data. Meanwhile, for the B&N side I've had to submit a credit card number to get access to their market (even to get their "Free" offerings).
10. Any implications for configuring e-mail and/or contacts, etc.? Mass remailing trojans certainly exist on the Windows side.
11. Do the application specific permission settings compare favorably to those of the BlackBerry, and are they easily adjustable after you've already granted permissions to an app?
12. Is there any concept of sandboxing a new app to prevent it from possibly adversely affecting other applications or files?
13. Is there a best practice for how to manage files on both the eMMC and SD card storage, particularly when booting between the two? Can one be locked out from the other?
Okay, that's a baker's dozen. I'll stop now.
Thanks much for any input.
Really? Nobody has an opinion to share on this?
rooting /cm7 / and the purpose behind it may just not be for you. I don't think your going to get an answer your looking for. Also not trying to be rude, but you pretty much wrote a book in your first post. Just ask a question dude.
Thanks for the response, but I asked roughly 13 questions -- would you prefer I "just asked a question" by starting 13 different threads? I certainly wouldn't.
And your first sentence makes it sound as if there's no one here who gives a damn about their own data and that everyone views the Nook Color as a toy -- and I seriously doubt that.
xdabr said:
I'm just getting started with CM7 and the Nook Color, but I have some general security concerns that perhaps you could help me with?
1. Viruses. I understand that these are real in Android. I've temporarily disabled non-Market apps, but I believe viruses and/or spyware have shown up in Market Apps too. Are there decent AntiVirus apps and what do you recommend?
2. Firewall. What services are open by default? Are there good software firewalls available?
3. Adware. Is it always clear which Market apps are ad-supported? Have apps crossed the line into malicious or near-malicious spyware? (Taking over browsers, redirecting home pages or searches, infecting other apps, etc.)
4. Apparently Google does not require password-confirmation for Market purchases, and no real solution exists, since available apps complicate things and don't address the root issue. Do they have any plans to change that?
5. Where are application and web site passwords, WiFi keys, and the like stored, and are they encrypted?
6. Is there a multi-user / multi-profile facility to allow different users to log in to different desktops and/or applications? (Or is that best accomplished with dual booting.)
7. What major applications are known to "phone home" or otherwise divulge more information than might be expected? I was quite surprised that CM7 itself phones home to CyanogenMod by default, and even with that turned off the ROM Manager still reports usage statistics to Google?
8. Is anyone independently reviewing CyanogenMod itself for privacy and security implications? Right now many of us are relying on a hodgepodge of hacker contributions and the good will of those creating them. I'm sure that anything malicious would eventually come to light, but is anyone proactively checking out the release CM7 distribution, the GApps distribution, and the various installers and packagers? Right now the only verifiable "web of trust" that seems to exist is the good intentions of every contributor, and the general availability of the source code (which should make the review possible, if not particularly easy!).
9. Are there any "best practices" as a user? For example, I've set up a new GMail ID for use with the NC, and haven't yet linked any credit card or payment data. Meanwhile, for the B&N side I've had to submit a credit card number to get access to their market (even to get their "Free" offerings).
10. Any implications for configuring e-mail and/or contacts, etc.? Mass remailing trojans certainly exist on the Windows side.
11. Do the application specific permission settings compare favorably to those of the BlackBerry, and are they easily adjustable after you've already granted permissions to an app?
12. Is there any concept of sandboxing a new app to prevent it from possibly adversely affecting other applications or files?
13. Is there a best practice for how to manage files on both the eMMC and SD card storage, particularly when booting between the two? Can one be locked out from the other?
Okay, that's a baker's dozen. I'll stop now.
Thanks much for any input.
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I have to admit, you come off as rather paranoid, and i am not sure why you are so.
Yes, there have been a couple of problem apps recently, but Google took care of them, and i would not worry. The best security you can have, is looking at what you are installing. The application cannot hide what permissions it needs, so if you have something asking for way more than you think it should need, take that as your first red flag.
Currently, Virus Scans on Android are a joke, and simply unneeded. Don't even waste you time. Firewalls are just about the same, and again, not worth the effort. One thing to keep in mind, that this is a linux system, and is not as prone to the Windows based attacks that you are used to. Things like email spam bots and such are not a problem.
As for Cyannogen - no code is added to the repository without being peer reviewed; and every code submission is available in public records. Frankly, they did not make it to CM7 by stealing people's data, nor is it simply a hodge podge of devs.
Frankly, I think right now more research is in order for ya. Most of what you ask is already discussed in many places, or is never discussed, because it simply isn't a worry...
Thank you, Divine_Madcat, for the advice and explanation. By hodgepodge I was more referring to the multiple installer methods and packages that newbies like me are relying upon to get everything installed easily. There are a lot of them, from a lot of nice people, from preconfigured SD card images to installation methods with modified boot loaders to interface and performance hacks. Even if Cyanogen itself is well maintained it would be pretty easy for someone to include a little trojan in one of those third-party "distributions".
It's not exactly paranoia, I've just seen this happen so often. Trojan horses are certainly not limited to Windows. Worms and other compromises have affected thousands of Unix and Linux machines in the past. Web sites and PHP and Perl scripts and databases and web frameworks regularly see vulnerabilities discovered and/or exploited. So since this device will be used in part by children with access to my credit card, I wanted to know what we're dealing with.
No, I was not familiar with Cyanogen's review practice (which is one reason I asked), so thanks for that reassurance! I will try to learn more as I go.
I do apologize for the length of the OP though -- I was trying to brainstorm and get everything down in one place that related to possible security concerns. It's not as if I'm worried sick about every little point.
One of the apps I install on all my installs is 'Lookout'. This app scans all my programs I install and update and I have heard very good reviews of it.
I did see that Eric Lundcrest did an article today:
http://web.eweek.com/t?r=2&c=38783&l=64&ctl=11B38843F5D4C728CF30E9F23F9E91BB51617&
You can check them out. I haven't tried them all myself and I noticed that he didn't include the app that I recommended above (and I use it on both my Nook and my HTC EVO)
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that one of the joys of Android (and of course Unix/Linux) is that everything is "sandboxed" unlike Windoze - there are not many apps that interfere with others - that's why it's so easy to install and uninstall from Android. Compare the uninstalling of even a large Android app with that of uninstalling from Windows.
I would not worry about interfering apps
Thanks, doc. I'm moderately familiar with the Unix security model, but not so much with Android. Is sandboxing really accurate? In Linux processes run with particular user rights, much as in Windows but more flexible -- that is, it's just much more common to have different daemons running as different users. Still, I don't think they're really isolated from one another as they might be with a "chroot jails" kind of function...
I don't think electronics are for you, I suggest books and a cabin in the woods.
No virus really exist yet, a few flaws in the code have been found but they are patched quick.
No real firewall, doesn't work quit that way with android.
Yes, it will say in the permissions of the app in the market.
You sign into the market when you first use it, making sure your devise has a lockscreen PW is how you keep it safe.
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Some apps phone home, check permissions before you install.
All CM code can be seen in the github, you can compile it yourself if you wish.
Use smart internet credit card practices such as only attaching a low limit card to accounts etc.
If the google email server was hacked maybe but all that stuff is stored encrypted on googles end.
Permissions need to be approved of by you if they change.
Android sandboxes all apps.
Dono, I have CM7 on internal and books etc stored on the SD card.
Nanan00, your actual answers were great, but "I don't think electronics are for you, I suggest books and a cabin in the woods." and the similar dismissive post above are exactly the kind of BS condescension that gives some open source communities a bad name. Stop it. Little by little it devalues the entire community and its projects.
Thanks for the substance of your response.
Truthfully... My parents practice pretty much all of the stuff you have said, they're very careful with credit cards and anything that could be used as personal information.
And yet... Someone got ahold of their credit card numbers and bought something for almost 3k last year...
I have no virus software or even firewall software on this computer, it has not received a virus in over 5 years (I know... it needs an upgrade) and I'm running Windows XP SP2.
If you're prone to viruses then go ahead and install some antivirus software. If you're scared about your kids + your credit card + the nook, then have them make all transactions on the computer.
The reason no one is taking this seriously is because Android is to new for there really to be anything worthwhile on the market. People are just now learning how to develop and code for it. So there aren't a bajillion(give or take one or two) viruses or trojans running around the google market.
On top of that, so long as your legally buying your apps from the google market, you have even less to worry about. As google has shown in the past that they'll go ahead and delete it the second they find it.
As far as permissions go, don't get to hung up on it. Everybody trust Pandora and yet it requires more permissions then some of googles own apps. =\
Thank you, Gin1212. I don't use an AntiVirus on my own Windows machines either -- it's more trouble than it's worth when you know what you're doing. (On Android I don't know what I'm doing, yet.)
And yeah, I already made sure to use a disposable credit card number ("ShopSafe") with a limit when setting up the Nook for the young'un. Google Market, thankfully, doesn't require a credit card unless you buy something, so I'll be checking out the free apps for a while (so that's part of why I asked about adware/spyware).
I was approaching the thing as I would any new (to me) full fledged operating system and computer, fully aware it's not the "safe" and dictatorially controlled little world of iOS or, to some extent, BlackBerry OS.
So thanks for the real world advice!
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Nanan00, your actual answers were great, but "I don't think electronics are for you, I suggest books and a cabin in the woods." and the similar dismissive post above are exactly the kind of BS condescension that gives some open source communities a bad name. Stop it. Little by little it devalues the entire community and its projects.
Thanks for the substance of your response.
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Suffice it to say that Android's and Microsoft's, and even Linux's app model is vastly different. Google does not just act as a repository, as in Linux. From my understanding, Google is rather guarded about it's app market and if anything heretofor is found, the app is yanked from the market immediately.
I agree that website security is more an issue that needs to be looked at, but the lion's share of websites that have virii and adware are aimed at infecting windows machines, but your concerns are noted.
As to the intent of the Devs here, I think you need to understand that these roms, mods and apps are their children, and their passion of the moment. No one goes through all the crap they do just to foment adware. This is their meat and drink and trust me, if there were a dev whose morality came into question, they would police themselves and it would be all here for us to read. There are no secrets here. These aren't script kiddies looking to wreak havoc.
I agree that security is a good thing, but the twin natures of Android are openness and isolation. Each app, at least from my understanding is an island unto itself with rare exception. So I think that while your concerns in themselves are noble, they are unwarranted, and at some points even seem absurd. No offense intended here.
We aren't just drinking the kool-aid here, everyone knows the risks of adopting an unknown and untested ROM, everyone takes the responsibility to themselves when they violate their warranty in search of a better tablet experience. The average person who roots their nook is not your average idiot windows user. We are here because we want more and better than our legacy alientation by microsoft and those who can't think outside of their security model.
Well, there is my Android manifesto. Sorry for rambling.
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No, I appreciate the manifesto -- thanks. Again, I tried to brainstorm and throw the kitchen sink into the original post so as to get everything down in one place. I was hoping it could serve as a general security discussion thread. Not everything there is a huge concern of mine, and sorry if it made things seem absurd.
I appreciate your points about the intentions of the developers and the operation of Google's market (although of course a big selling point is we are NOT limited to that market... conversely, I suppose anything I chose off-market would be something I had by definition come to trust independently).
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Nanan00... "I don't think electronics are for you, I suggest books and a cabin in the woods." and the similar dismissive post above are exactly the kind of BS condescension that gives some open source communities a bad name. Stop it. Little by little it devalues the entire community and its projects.
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I think your overreacting a wee bit too much. I can't speak for Nanan00 but the first sentence of his post feels like a joke. He took the time to write out the answers of OP's question...
Also since you were referring to my post at the top..... I was just being candid with OP.
I read his post, I could see that he was a bit paranoid (IMO) and told him my honest opinion. Which is: Hacking your nook, or any device for that matter, may not be for you. The reasons being that when you hack your device, you inevitably increase its chances of being exposed (even if the increase is small, its there.) I don't feel that I am being arrogant, and I didn't catch that drift from Nanan00. But I wanted to address this since you obviously feel strong that this type of behavior is "devaluing the entire community and its projects."
Anyways to the OP:
Sorry if my post came off rude. I should of taken the time to give you my explanation.
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I think your overreacting a wee bit too much. I can't speak for Nanan00 but the first sentence of his post feels like a joke. He took the time to write out the answers of OP's question...
Also since you were referring to my post at the top..... I was just being candid with OP.
I read his post, I could see that he was a bit paranoid (IMO) and told him my honest opinion. Which is: Hacking your nook, or any device for that matter, may not be for you. The reasons being that when you hack your device, you inevitably increase its chances of being exposed (even if the increase is small, its there.) I don't feel that I am being arrogant, and I didn't catch that drift from Nanan00. But I wanted to address this since you obviously feel strong that this type of behavior is "devaluing the entire community and its projects."
Anyways to the OP:
Sorry if my post came off rude. I should of taken the time to give you my explanation.
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Um, colbur87, "OP" and I are the same person.
Asking questions is one way we learn. As an Android newbie many of my questions would apply to any Android device, hacked/rooted or not. If they're not appropriate for this forum, or if no one here thinks they're valid or worth a response, that would be okay. But to say in effect "your concerns are stupid and you don't belong here" is not only insulting, but factually wrong. Just because some people are content to not consider security implications doesn't mean they're not real.
Blithe unquestioning acceptance and faith is more of an Apple iFanboy trait, I would have thought.
And much as with Linux as a whole, positioning "hacked" Android as something not amenable to ordinary consumers is counterproductive.
(By the way, I'm not an ordinary consumer.)
Anyway, I do appreciate the answers people have given.
Wasn't lookig at the names so my bad on the mix up.
Anyways if you still think im being rude even after my previous post then so be it.
im out
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The application cannot hide what permissions it needs, so if you have something asking for way more than you think it should need, take that as your first red flag.
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Actually, that isn't true. There are holes in Android Market, so if app makers really wanted to, they can hide certain permissions even if your app calls out that permission through androidmanifest, which is how the permission is given in the first place. It was shown that even big name developers had exploited this one time or another. Of course this has nothing to do with CM7. Even stock Android phones are vulnerable to this. However, in general, if you download a popular app, you should be able to trust the permissions listed. Unless your the first person to download an app, you'll usually hear back from initial users if there's something funky going on.
See here
http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/2014/04/24/samsung-galaxy-gifts-con-number-2/
And here
http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/...x-bonus-space-on-samsung-galaxy-s5-no-chance/
When I bought my S5 it clearly was advertised as 2 years free Dropbox with your S5. There was no small print.
This is not right.
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Had the same issue. Really not happy
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A few of my friends who also bought the S5 have suffered the same fate too. I think this is a Trading Standards or BBC Watchdog situation. I will speak to Samsung tomorrow to see what they are prepared to do.
I have sent a Combined tweet which was tweeted to SamsungMobileUK, Dropbox and BBCWatchdog, and asked for a response from them. I am @Gavinfabiani on twitter. If you see this tweet, please can you RT.
We really need to stop the practice.
gavinfabl said:
See here
http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/2014/04/24/samsung-galaxy-gifts-con-number-2/
And here
http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/...x-bonus-space-on-samsung-galaxy-s5-no-chance/
When I bought my S5 it clearly was advertised as 2 years free Dropbox with your S5. There was no small print.
This is not right.
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And you purchased from a participating network or retailer?
I didn't purchase from a participating network or retailer so I can't comment on this one.
Did you read the fine print that Samsung linked to on the dropbox site??
https://www.dropbox.com/help/297
Clearly says that each account can only get the offer ONCE. So if you got it from a past phone, to bad, so sad you can't get it again with a new phone.
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And you purchased from a participating network or retailer?
I didn't purchase from a participating network or retailer so I can't comment on this one.
Did you read the fine print that Samsung linked to on the dropbox site??
https://www.dropbox.com/help/297
Clearly says that each account can only get the offer ONCE. So if you got it from a past phone, to bad, so sad you can't get it again with a new phone.
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I had since read that after I ran into problems. BUT that is from Dropbox not Samsung.
Samsung's website makes NO reference to any small print. Part of buying the S5 was the £500 worth of software incentives. Dropbox was 2 years free. I don't care what anyone says its is wrong and misleading. if I was alone I wouldnt have had 100s of people contact me saying it has happened to them as well. So everybody is making the same assumption.
Therefore it is misleading. All the other software "gifts" have been redeemable as advertised. So why not Dropbox....
Even worse, I have 30 days left on my Dropbox account before an old offer expired. If I had used temporarily Google for example, then a month later it would have been possible to sign in and get the 50gb.
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A few of my friends who also bought the S5 have suffered the same fate too. I think this is a Trading Standards or BBC Watchdog situation. I will speak to Samsung tomorrow to see what they are prepared to do.
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Managed to get the 50GB using my S5 but it wasn't automatically credited to my Dropbox account...
I had to click a link on an email Dropbox sent me and then do a number of the 7-8 things the web page the link sent me to asked for.
This was stuff like read the tutorial, install Dropbox on a PC and login with the same account, share a folder with your friends, etc.
It took a few days for my email to come through and you'll probably find if you use a common email provider (Gmail, Hotmail, etc.) then it's probably been marked as spam and moved to your Junk folder!
emuX said:
Managed to get the 50GB using my S5 but it wasn't automatically credited to my Dropbox account...
I had to click a link on an email Dropbox sent me and then do a number of the 7-8 things the web page the link sent me to asked for.
This was stuff like read the tutorial, install Dropbox on a PC and login with the same account, share a folder with your friends, etc.
It took a few days for my email to come through and you'll probably find if you use a common email provider (Gmail, Hotmail, etc.) then it's probably been marked as spam and moved to your Junk folder!
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Thanks for replying. Sadly this wont work for me and many others.
I have spoken to Samsung today at Head Office and highlighted the following offers that arent working -
1) Dropbox storage
2) Box 10gb storage
3) Wall Street Journal 6 months sub
4) Free gift via Samsung website
They have realised there are problems and I gave them my reasons as to why I believe it is not working.
I should have an update on Monday late afternoon.
Ah I'm really pissed off about this.
yep...my 2 years expires this june from my s3....
my s4 never got it ..and now my s5 didnt get it
they should just restart the 2 years from the moment you get the latest device like a cell phone contract
this is complete BS
I think in order to spite both samsung and dropbox, I will buy an unlocked s5...use the dropbox dea after mine expires to get it back, and return it....
FU samsung and dropbox
In case you are all having your period, or you purposely disregarded any USEFUL information, it does clearly show on your website, and on the official samsung website that TERMS AND CONDITIONS APPLY. In case you have not seen them, you can take a look at them here and here
People should spend less time whining and more time reading! Samsung has these gifts for their users, please point me out to any other company that does the same. No matter how you try to get in the promotion twice, you cannot since the terms CLEARLY state that only ONE promotion per account. So unless you have never had dropbox on a previous samsung device, you will not be given an extra 50GB each time you buy a samsung device. If this pissed you off, go get and iphone and put your head in the iclouds and see how that goes for you!
So to answer you, the dropbox promo has been redeemed on my S3, so It will expire soon enough, i dont care about box, i did get the WSJ 6 month subscription by going into Samsung Apps - Categories - Galaxy Gifts and as for the rest, if you register your device, they will send you a 50% off coupon to redeem on orders of 50$ or less on Samsung website. Once again, which other company does this? Oh right, none
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In case you are all having your period, or you purposely disregarded any USEFUL information, it does clearly show on your website, and on the official samsung website that TERMS AND CONDITIONS APPLY. In case you have not seen them, you can take a look at them here and here
People should spend less time whining and more time reading! Samsung has these gifts for their users, please point me out to any other company that does the same. No matter how you try to get in the promotion twice, you cannot since the terms CLEARLY state that only ONE promotion per account. So unless you have never had dropbox on a previous samsung device, you will not be given an extra 50GB each time you buy a samsung device. If this pissed you off, go get and iphone and put your head in the iclouds and see how that goes for you!
So to answer you, the dropbox promo has been redeemed on my S3, so It will expire soon enough, i dont care about box, i did get the WSJ 6 month subscription by going into Samsung Apps - Categories - Galaxy Gifts and as for the rest, if you register your device, they will send you a 50% off coupon to redeem on orders of 50$ or less on Samsung website. Once again, which other company does this? Oh right, none
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The link to the terms on conditions are not in reference to the gifts for the S5, and neither are the clearly linked anywhere, so stop giving Samsung a get out of jail card. Perhaps you work for them?
Each phone costs £500 plus and Samsung promote buy our phone to get £500 in gifts. In any event this problem has no been elevated to Samsung Head Office and Dropbox and an update on this position will appear by Tuesday.
If you had for example Dropbox offer in force, then the period should be extended rather than the size limit as an alternative. In theory, you penalise people who buy Samsung's products more often. And that makes sense. NOT.
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The link to the terms on conditions are not in reference to the gifts for the S5, and neither are the clearly linked anywhere, so stop giving Samsung a get out of jail card. Perhaps you work for them?
Each phone costs £500 plus and Samsung promote buy our phone to get £500 in gifts. In any event this problem has no been elevated to Samsung Head Office and Dropbox and an update on this position will appear by Tuesday.
If you had for example Dropbox offer in force, then the period should be extended rather than the size limit as an alternative. In theory, you penalise people who buy Samsung's products more often. And that makes sense. NOT.
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these conditions have been the same since the s3, if you cannot read properly, its not samsungs fault
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these conditions have been the same since the s3, if you cannot read properly, its not samsungs fault
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Sorry, but you are getting confused between 2 types of Samsung gifts. Just shows how misleading it is. That is only one part of the offers. The other part is the Samsung Gifts via the Samsung Apps that are advertised on Samsung UK website where they list all the software app services and products. Samsung's website recently got updated in the last week or so, and they have changed the offers too.
I have discussed with situation with Samsung and they agree it is not clear and are investigating with the respective Head Office teams.
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxys5/galaxygifts.html
I have 53gb available for Dropbox
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Lol) when I bought the phone, I was told that I would get gifts from Samsung AppStore for the exact price I've spent)
Nice way to PR your website OP.
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Lol) when I bought the phone, I was told that I would get gifts from Samsung AppStore for the exact price I've spent)
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Same here.
I did wonder what was going to happen when my upcoming expiry happened. I guess now I know. I'd assumed that I'd need to clear data in dropbox app after expiry and since the extra storage hadn't been claimed on THIS phone, I'd get it then. Silly, naieve me.
I can understand not having the extra storage added if you've already got an unexpired promotion happening (i.e. already claimed and are using the extra 48GB) - but I've had 3 phones since I first activated the promotion, all of which offered "free 50GB", and yet it still expires in about a month.
I'll be interested to see if their stance changes, but I won't be holding my breath.
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I did wonder what was going to happen when my upcoming expiry happened. I guess now I know. I'd assumed that I'd need to clear data in dropbox app after expiry and since the extra storage hadn't been claimed on THIS phone, I'd get it then. Silly, naieve me.
I can understand not having the extra storage added if you've already got an unexpired promotion happening (i.e. already claimed and are using the extra 48GB) - but I've had 3 phones since I first activated the promotion, all of which offered "free 50GB", and yet it still expires in about a month.
I'll be interested to see if their stance changes, but I won't be holding my breath.
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What they should do is reset the 2 years upon the latest purchase of the phone with that promotion
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Hi guys. I'm starting this thread in hopes of sparking a conversation and a concerted effort to rid ourselves as users from the clutches of Google and other big tech companies. I am sick and tired of Google tracking me and attempting to force feed me ads on a daily send constant basis. Then selling my info to other companies such as Facebook. So, I have started down the path of decluttering (De-Google-ing) my device(s). I am primarily interested in securing my device as much as possible and protecting my privacy.
So far, I have reformatted my entire device to factory default settings installed and using F-Droid (FOSS) for all my apps. I use Yandex as my search engine (I am often to suggestions and recommendations) in the "private browser" app. I use Aurora instead of Google Play store, New Pipe for YouTube-ing, Frost for Facebookingand SlimSocial for Twitter. I have stopped using Google keyboard and any other Google apps. I have abandoned gmail and replaced it with proton mail instead. So far, no ads and as far as I can tell, no tracking. I have also installed a VPN and am using it religiously—Cyber Ghost, a $99 for 3 years subscription with support up to 8 devices.
However, I am still very much connected to Samsung for I am not privy as to whether or not Samsung is as sinister as Google and Facebook.
Again, I am open to all suggestions, corrections and recommendations. Thank you and I hope to engage with you all.
leave it up to them yandex russians to protect your privacy.
but seriously. the most dangerous thing you can do is acctualy think that the steps you take are really making your life private.
vpns just channel the traffic to an other end point and does the queries for you then sends the data encrypted to you.
the queries are still made on the www. account info and all things you store or access online is still accessible by the www. vpn companies just fool you into thinking that the data being relayed to you is the only weak link. plus the free ones mine your data.
best thing you can do is not use social media. its made to invade your privacy. its designed to fool you into giving as much of your personal life info as possible and sell your habits to add companies so they can in turn send you quatered adds.
the minute you use the internet you void your privacy regardless of how you think the measures you take are working or effective. and what are you going to do about the 100 and 1000's of companies being hacked and their data mined and sold every month? you cant do anything about that. plus its much better for hackers to get their info from a big company because you get much more than just 1 dude that does his banking online and chat every now and then.there is no money to be made from 1 individual.
if you think people are specifically after you, you are gravely being fooled by the vpn ad campaigns that have been poping up everywhere about "privacy".( they must hide the fact that they also get hacked very well.its just that the media hasint picked up on it yet)
anyways who want to waste time on an end user/device?
when again you just need to hack equifax like a few years back and you get the motherload instead.
all in all I've abandoned the thought of real privacy. its futile.( even abstinents dosen't work because companies and governments don't secure customer data correctly. and unfortunately if you are born, you must be branded and labeled and filed away.)
live your life. just know that what ever you do you can't escape big brother and your data from being leaked by the big companies that say that it is secured with them.
the whole infrastructure relies on them companies and the habits we have been embraining ourselves and our children with is the problem.. we live our lives intertwined with the services and devices that we take for granted and have clicked next next next through polices and consent forms for over 25 years now whithout even giving it a second though. we're in over our heads now and it is a little late to back out. this was al dine by design and all voluntarily. its crazy how marketing is evil.
a cabin in the woods is the easiest and most secure thing one can do. anything shy of that is a waste of time and a false feeling of privacy.
anyways I'm going around in circles now.
one thing for sure is that the criminals we think that we need cover from are not who we think they are.
they are the FCC dealing with big telcos, they are the big media giants spewing false information and fabricates facts. they are in our governments in the highest ranks pushing hidden agendas and most of all they are the big social media platforms remodeling our society each day under our noses at our expense.
but hey this is not new. the internet police is just tring to make you think it is and spend 9.99$ a month for a vpn lol
good luck.
I just stopped using as many Google apps as I can and switched over to MS Office apps and use Samsung services where I can too...
bober10113 said:
leave it up to them yandex russians to protect your privacy.
but seriously. the most dangerous thing you can do is acctualy think that the steps you take are really making your life private.
vpns just channel the traffic to an other end point and does the queries for you then sends the data encrypted to you.
the queries are still made on the www. account info and all things you store or access online is still accessible by the www. vpn companies just fool you into thinking that the data being relayed to you is the only weak link. plus the free ones mine your data.
best thing you can do is not use social media. its made to invade your privacy. its designed to fool you into giving as much of your personal life info as possible and sell your habits to add companies so they can in turn send you quatered adds.
the minute you use the internet you void your privacy regardless of how you think the measures you take are working or effective. and what are you going to do about the 100 and 1000's of companies being hacked and their data mined and sold every month? you cant do anything about that. plus its much better for hackers to get their info from a big company because you get much more than just 1 dude that does his banking online and chat every now and then.there is no money to be made from 1 individual.
if you think people are specifically after you, you are gravely being fooled by the vpn ad campaigns that have been poping up everywhere about "privacy".( they must hide the fact that they also get hacked very well.its just that the media hasint picked up on it yet)
anyways who want to waste time on an end user/device?
when again you just need to hack equifax like a few years back and you get the motherload instead.
all in all I've abandoned the thought of real privacy. its futile.( even abstinents dosen't work because companies and governments don't secure customer data correctly. and unfortunately if you are born, you must be branded and labeled and filed away.)
live your life. just know that what ever you do you can't escape big brother and your data from being leaked by the big companies that say that it is secured with them.
the whole infrascturuce relies on them companies and the habits we have been embraining ourselves and our children with is the problem.. we live our lives intertwined with the services and devices that we take for granted and have clicked next next next through polices and consent forms for over 25 years now whithout even giving it a second though. we're in over our heads now and it is a little late to back out. this was al dine by design and all voluntarily. its crazy how marketing is evil.
a cabin in the woods is the easiest and most secure thing one can do. anything shy of that is a waste of time and a false feeling of privacy.
anyways I'm going around in circles now.
one thing for sure is that the criminals we think that we need cover from are not who we think they are.
they are the FCC dealing with big telcos, they are the big media giants spewing false information and fabricates facts. they are in our governments in the highest ranks pushing hidden agendas and most of all they are the big social media platforms remodeling our society each day under our noses at our expense.
but hey this is not new. the internet police is just tring to make you think it is and spend 9.99$ a month for a vpn lol
good luck.
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Oy vey! Thank you very much for yor contribution. It is very much appreciated and I see what you are saying.
AndroidUser00110001 said:
I just stopped using as many Google apps as I can and switched over to MS Office apps and use Samsung services where I can too...
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How has this been working out for you? What are your thoughts on Samsung's and Microsoft privacy policies etc?
Nonetheless, what are some good and viable alternatives to Google and optimally "securing" one's device (taking everything bober10113 has said).
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How has this been working out for you? What are your thoughts on Samsung's and Microsoft privacy policies etc?
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Like the other poster said, I gave up on worrying about privacy. I made the switch for other reasons and privacy was down on the list...
I just do not like what Goolge has been doing lately, especially blocking ad blockers soon in Chrome so I switched to MS Edge on Android and the Chromium version of Edge for desktop and the rest of the apps just followed through. I am seeing how the switch works for myself and if all goes well I will switch back to MS for the small company I work for.
I gave up on Gmail, Google Drive and all their office apps so far and I stopped using Nexus/Pixel phones for the first time in 10 years. I started with the S9+ which I enjoyed for a couple of months and then got a Note9 during a holiday special and now I cannot wait for the Note10.
Privacy is what it is nowadays... We should all own our data and if we choose to let be used as companies are doing now then we should get a slice of all the money being made but I doubt it will ever get to be something like that.
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How has this been working out for you? What are your thoughts on Samsung's and Microsoft privacy policies etc?
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I wouldn't think that they are any better than Google's. Majority of the companies out there that are international had to adhere to the EU rules of privacy, so a lot of them have adopted those standards. NOT ALL OF THEM. That's why all of a sudden you are getting new agreements from all the major companies that touch each section of land on the world.
I still don't trust any of them even to that point.
This is morbid. I have been thinking a lot more about death, debt, privacy and such, and I have come to the conclusion that I honestly don't care about my own anymore because it has been stolen, including my wife's. Future children though, I worry about them because you don't even have to mention their name on the internet and somehow every major company knows about them.
Ever had a conversation with someone without actually looking something up on the web, and then a day or two later Google and other ads start showing things concerning what you were talking about to someone in person? Yeah, it has happened to me numerous times now I can't even count anymore.
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Ever had a conversation with someone without actually looking something up on the web, and then a day or two later Google and other ads start showing things concerning what you were talking about to someone in person? Yeah, it has happened to me numerous times now I can't even count anymore.
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YES!!! I noticed this a few months ago. My wife and I were talking about some random subject and BAM there it was in my Google discovery feed.
I mentioned that to her and she thought I was crazy until it happened again.
My friend was over last week, he mentioned something about a car he is fixing up and once again in my Google feed...
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I am not going to go as far as saying they are listening because my wife did say she looked up what we were talking about later on that day on her phone so I am guessing it is more GPS based then Google listening to give them the benefit of doubt for now. I need to ask my friend if he searched anything while here...
You want to De-Google your phone? Sell it and don't get an Android phone. Don't get an iPhone, either. In fact, get one of those huge car phones from the 80s. I can't add really anything that hasn't been said, other than some slight humor, but again, if you want privacy, stay off the internet.
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YES!!! I noticed this a few months ago. My wife and I were talking about some random subject and BAM there it was in my Google discovery feed.
I mentioned that to her and she thought I was crazy until it happened again.
My friend was over last week, he mentioned something about a car he is fixing up and once again in my Google feed...
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I am not going to go as far as saying they are listening because my wife did say she looked up what we were talking about later on that day on her phone so I am guessing it is more GPS based then Google listening to give them the benefit of doubt for now. I need to ask my friend if he searched anything while here...
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This is what I'm trying to prevent. Exactly the same thing had happened to me. We were simply discussing an AC unit; never looked it up or mentioned the name of it and the exact make and model in the room we were in showed up.
michel5891 said:
This is what I'm trying to prevent. Exactly the same thing had happened to me. We were simply discussing an AC unit; never looked it up or mentioned the name of it and the exact make and model in the room we were in showed up.
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Yeah it's super duper creepy. Funny thing is since I refreshed my Note 9 up to PIE, I haven't given assistant or google search any permission to use my microphone and I don't even have them setup!
this might help:
https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/6030020?co=GENIE.Platform=Android&hl=en
turn voice activity off. also check your history to see if it has any recording...
SOLUTION TO DELAYED-NOTIFICATIONS:
Enable USB debugging on the phone.
You just unzip the file provided here in your PC: https://www.xda-developers.com/install-adb-windows-macos-linux/
Navigate to it via terminal.
Then, after you connect the phone to your PC, run:
./adb devices
./adb shell dumpsys deviceidle disable
That'll fix it for sure.
I simply cannot recommend Android to my normie friends and family.
Let me restate this: It is not our job to fix Google's bugs.
This is a US-centric view.
If you can't tell: I am a bit aggravated right now.
I could not get my GMail, GCal, and other notifications to come through properly on Pixel 5's Android 11 OR S21 Ultra's Android 11.
This has apparently been an issue that many an Android user suffers through silently -- and, some don't even know that this is happening to them. I guess they're embarrassed to publicly state that their mobile OS is subpar.
When you get an e-mail or if a calendar event reminder is coming up, and even if your phone's screen is OFF/locked: you should get an *instant* notification. No delay whatsoever.
Well, if my screen was off/locked, I wouldn't get these notifications or it would take 10+ minutes to show. But, once I unlocked my phone: boom, notifications. And, sometimes even if my screen wasn't locked, there would be a serious delay or no notification.
After spending loads of time trying to fix this problem, me and my friend finally stumbled upon a solution: ./adb shell dumpsys deviceidle disable
A reboot eliminates this setting modification, by the way.
Do not tell me that instant e-mail notifications are not necessary. Many of us work jobs that require them to be instant.
No end user should ever have to go through this. iPhone users certainly don't go through this.
If Google doesn't care about Android users, then, why should I, as an Android user, care about Android too? Just switch to iPhone, I guess.
Google pays Apple $10bn+ every year and makes better software for iOS than it does for Android.
Just look at the damn widgets that iOS users get.
So, $10bn/year plus the cost of the software developed to cater to iOS users.
This makes Google a simp cuck to Apple, nothing else.
Would Apple ever return this favor? No.
Therefore, Google management is a simp cucked by Apple, nothing more.
We are fools to be using this OS.
If Google is willing to subsidize my iOS software updates and experience to the tune of billions of dollars every single year -- then, why not just switch?
Clearly, my experience has shown me that Android can be cheaper -- if I don't value my time.
Statistic after statistic bears it out: iPhone users are wealthier.
I am tired of being an Android luser -- why should I take on such abuse and neglect by the main author of my mobile OS?
Before you start patronizing me: YES, I tried every other bloody trick in the book to fix this issue.
No end user should ever have to go through this! No end user should have to run adb commands to enable basic functionality.
There are some basic things that modern smartphones should just be able to do: instant notifications, 3rd party camera support, functioning RCS or some other form of E2EE messaging built-in, reliable local backups, a nationwide network of repair facilities, etc.
Android fails on all of these.
iPhone ordered. Glad to leave this Android ghetto behind.
Hey Google, if you have some self-respect: then, instead of paying Apple $10bn an year and doing iOS development, how about you actually work on some basic Android functionality instead?
Way too long dude.
But I can say I never had a delay on my notifications, especially on Gmail where my phone rings before my laptop for example.
All my apps get notified in time, I can compare with Signal and it's Desktop app.
I really don't know what's the cause but if I can help.
And for you information, all your monologue about iPhone is really too much, especially when some people have the exact same issue.
Just Google iPhone notifications delay and you'll find out.
If you wanna change, just change, We are not kids, nobody is gonna tell you to stay in the Android world if you're not satisfied.
To finish, you maybe make stupid assumptions. I paid an S21U 1500 € because I can, I also have an iPhone 12 Pro from work, and I just never use it because in my tastes, this is a really bad phone to use.
Good thing We use VoIP so I just forward my professional calls now.
Try this with your phone screen off: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.firstrowria.pushnotificationtester
Set the notification to come in at like 240 seconds and lock your phone screen.
If it doesn't come in instantly as scheduled, you have a problem.
nixnixnixnix4 said:
Try this with your phone screen off: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.firstrowria.pushnotificationtester
Set the notification to come in at like 240 seconds and lock your phone screen.
If it doesn't come in instantly as scheduled, you have a problem.
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Just tested I have exactly 1 second delay .
But I think he just doesn't care. He just posted to get it out and tell the world he leaves.
As if anybody cares.
Nat.smith26 said:
Just tested I have exactly 1 second delay .
But I think he just doesn't care. He just posted to get it out and tell the world he leaves.
As if anybody cares.
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And, your phone was locked for 4-5 minutes but the notification still came through?
If so, please share your battery optimization settings and other stuff.
Screenshots of those settings would be nice.
Nat.smith26 said:
Just tested I have exactly 1 second delay .
But I think he just doesn't care. He just posted to get it out and tell the world he leaves.
As if anybody cares.
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There is a reason why iOS has at least 60% market share in the US.
It has the basics right.
It has the low-hanging fruit mastered.
My friend has a Pixel 5 and I have an S21 Ultra 256GB.
And, somehow, I'm frustrated/biased over nothing?
Clearly, I'm in the game but Android is failing us.
I configured the app for 5 min notifications and programmed a countdown of my Google Home to see what was going on.
You won't get anything from my screenshots because I have nothing special.
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There is a reason why iOS has at least 60% market share in the US.
It has the basics right.
It has the low-hanging fruit mastered.
My friend has a Pixel 5 and I have an S21 Ultra 256GB.
And, somehow, I'm frustrated/biased over nothing?
Clearly, I'm in the game but Android is failing us.
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Yep the reason is this is an American Company that they are proud of and you can see Apple products everywhere, ads, shows, movies, etc...
That just became a standard.
A few years ago Apple had the same share but with ****ty phones, so...
Today they make good products, but that's still not enough for me.
I can't use a system where censure is normal, they chose to close the doors to every developers they want, they don't follow their own rules, they don't wanna use standards to slow down every tiers development and keep everyone in jail...
This is a biiiiiig discussion, but just like Facebook, I just can't stand their politics.
Most Americans are just blind when it comes to Apple, this is the pride of the nation.
And We don't talk bad about the pride of the Nation.
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Yep the reason is this is an American Company that they are proud of and you can see Apple products everywhere, ads, shows, movies, etc...
That just became a standard.
A few years ago Apple had the same share but with ****ty phones, so...
Today they make good products, but that's still not enough for me.
I can't use a system where censure is normal, they chose to close the doors to every developers they want, they don't follow their own rules, they don't wanna use standards to slow down every tiers development and keep everyone in jail...
This is a biiiiiig discussion, but just like Facebook, I just can't stand their politics.
Most Americans are just blind when it comes to Apple, this is the pride of the nation.
And We don't talk bad about the pride of the Nation.
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We need anti-trust measures to prevent them from preventing us from installing things on our own phones. That is the only way.
nixnixnixnix4 said:
We need anti-trust measures to prevent them from preventing us from installing things on our own phones. That is the only way.
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USA does not care and EU can't do much because they have less than 20% share in the rest of the world.
The only country they are afraid of is China, so they obey just to make more money and still use their factories.
Nat.smith26 said:
I configured the app for 5 min notifications and programmed a countdown of my Google Home to see what was going on.
You won't get anything from my screenshots because I have nothing special.
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Adaptive battery and put unused apps to sleep are known troublemakers.
Android will manage very well without them.
Any power hogs deal with on an individual case by case basis. Optimize it; flipping a toggle switch isn't optimizing
At the most, simply close that app when done with it. The Brave browser is real bad like that if you don't close it out.
Your results may vary... play with it; WYSIWYG.
As for Apple, it's a closed platform one trick pony and it sucks.
As for Android, you get what you put into it.
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There is a reason why iOS has at least 60% market share in the US.
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Yes, too many people have no imaginanation, want things easy, and have the manufacturer make their decisions for them. Apple and iOS is the go to for such individuals.
Beefheart said:
Yes, too many people have no imaginanation, want things easy, and have the manufacturer make their decisions for them. Apple and iOS is the go to for such individuals.
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Or, it's because the basics actually work on iPhones.
And, those basics are important to people.
Steve Jobs was right about one thing: The sheep outnumber us.
They use their numbers and money to get a better app experience for themselves.
Developers develop for sheep, not for Android Joes.
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Or, it's because the basics actually work on iPhones.
And, those basics are important to people.
Steve Jobs was right about one thing: The sheep outnumber us.
They use their numbers and money to get a better app experience for themselves.
Developers develop for sheep, not for Android Joes.
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You're on the wrong forum... no sheep here, we ate them.
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Or, it's because the basics actually work on iPhones.
And, those basics are important to people.
Steve Jobs was right about one thing: The sheep outnumber us.
They use their numbers and money to get a better app experience for themselves.
Developers develop for sheep, not for Android Joes.
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Well that depends what basics are to you.
To me it's just gonna be able to install any app I want and not being insulted by a closed and proprietary system.
If basics is just messages/calls/Facebook/snapshat just like 70% of the US teenagers then you can buy a 200$ phone for that.
But no, I see my nephew, He needs to get in the club, not to be different of the mass.
But tbh your arguments doesn't apply in the rest of the world, even in European countries where Samsung is still the leader and Chinese brands are hype
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Or, it's because the basics actually work on iPhones.
And, those basics are important to people.
Steve Jobs was right about one thing: The sheep outnumber us.
They use their numbers and money to get a better app experience for themselves.
Developers develop for sheep, not for Android Joes.
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The basics work on Android. Or they do for me at least.
Read into that what you wish.
Well I love android . Really but the notifications delay driving me crazy
I have s21 ultra . Honestly brilliant peace of hardware but with a very problematic bug in the notifications area.
Some apps send notifications without any issues but some apps don't. And when I'm unlock my screen it bombs my device like crazy.
I will try this add solution
Hope it will work for me
sagiag said:
Well I love android . Really but the notifications delay driving me crazy
I have s21 ultra . Honestly brilliant peace of hardware but with a very problematic bug in the notifications area.
Some apps send notifications without any issues but some apps don't. And when I'm unlock my screen it bombs my device like crazy.
I will try this add solution
Hope it will work for me
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Yes, please let me know if this adb solution works for you.
We need to reach out to Samsung and/or Google about this.
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Yes, please let me know if this adb solution works for you.
We need to reach out to Samsung and/or Google about this.
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do you know if device reboot will reset the idle modes ?
or if I done the ads command once it should work forever