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Hi. Can anyone confirm for me whether UK banking apps Barclays App/PingIT, LloydsTSB app will continue to work on a rooted HTC One?
I believe they will fail to work as they will detect the rooted status and call this a security issue, am I correct?
Thanks
yes, you are correct, they will not work with root.
Some have had success in hiding root to run the app, then unhiding afterwards, but for me that's a lot of hassle just to use the bank app when I can use the mobile web page, you may feel otherwise.
I do.. Barclays web takes about 4 codes to log in including one from either the card code unit or from the phone app.
The phone app needs just one 5 digit code and you are in and of course PingIT is a phone only tool and very useful.
then have a look at this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2360142 and give it a go
i think superSU has a hide option? unlike superuser. so you could try that. i was using that to hid root from some games that disabled themselves when they detected root.
barclays app was working on my rooted 4.1.2. it stopped working when i upgraded to 4.2.2.
Yep, same thing happened to me, i managed to get an old apk of the app, so it's working again. Thought i could do the same with pingit, but didnt complete, Message appeared saying update to the latest version. Only a matter of time before the online banking app does the same.
Uninstal the barclays app first then download temp root remover from the playstore. Temporary remove root instal the app and you are good to go then..
I did the like that but you might be comprising your bank account details if using on root. Thats what rumours are all about..
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Good morning all
I recently updated the Santander mobile banking app and it appears to have become 'smarter' in detecting root. When I attempt to open the app I am presented with the following: It looks like your device has been rooted. I am using Magisk version 5.8.3 (129), Magisk Manager v16.0 and the root is systemless.
What I have tried so far:
Cleared the apps data/cache and reinstalled the app
Removed the app, rebooted, reinstalled the app, added back to Magisk hide before opening again
Used Magisks safety net check which has come back as true, which means SafetyNet hasn't been tripped
Please help guys, I use the Santander app regularly
Many thanks
That's the case with my banking app sparkasse. It does not start at all anymore. I had to resort to another older version.
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This has already been discussed for a few days (mixed results):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/search/forum/5903?query=santander
Still no luck
I have tried the recommendations in the thread mentioned but still no luck and my phone got stuck in a boot loop which I narrowly escaped! The recommendation was to install Magisk 16.7.2 which didn't change anything. I hope someone finds a fix/workaround.
Thanks
Check this out peeps, i might be onto smt: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77240186&postcount=93
Only thing to do for now is use the Santander website for now?
There is now a permanent fix
To all those people who are having this issue, there is now a permanent fix to get around this. Please see the following post/thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77331765&postcount=99
Mo
Hi,
As written in the title, after the new update (18.1) magisk no longer hides the fact that my phone is rooted from my banking app.
Ive done everything I could think of in order to fix it but it still doesnt works...
Does anybody else is having the same issue, know how to fix it or know an another app that can hide root from apps?
Thank you in advance
try zygisk in settings
I used the app Island (from Oasis Feng) and cloned the banking app. It no longer detected Magisk.
I'm trying to use this app: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=br.com.banrisul
I've added to the hiding list and enable core only mode, it still closes at startup after saying my phone is either root or running a modified system. I've tested with rootbeercheck and it doesn't detect root in any of its tests.
i.imgur.com/60Zs5IH.png
No issues opening the app here... That means Magisk is perfectly capable of hiding from it, but you might have something else in your setup that triggers it.
https://www.didgeridoohan.com/magisk/MagiskHide#hn_Hiding_root_from_apps
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No issues opening the app here... That means Magisk is perfectly capable of hiding from it, but you might have something else in your setup that triggers it.
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but what exactly would trigger it? The link talks mostly about methods to hide magisk, I didn't find anything about what to do if magisk is working but the check fails. I've uninstalled titaniumbackup and rootbrowser. I've disable adb and developer options, I've deleted any folder or downloaded file related to magisk or those apps.
I'm running lineageos, would that be it? How would I go about it?
Could be any number of things... Your ROM might be one of them (more details about that?). It's pretty much impossible for me to do anything else but make educated guesses. The only thing I can say with relative certainty is that it shouldn't have anything to do with Magisk (since I can hide from the app just fine when testing).
You do pass SafetyNet, right? Could be that this is one of those apps that actually use SN.
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Could be any number of things... Your ROM might be one of them (more details about that?). It's pretty much impossible for me to do anything else but make educated guesses. The only thing I can say with relative certainty is that it shouldn't have anything to do with Magisk (since I can hide from the app just fine when testing).
You do pass SafetyNet, right? Could be that this is one of those apps that actually use SN.
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It passes both checks.
I am running lineage OS 14.1 (Android 7.1.2) on a moto g4.
My main guess is that it's detecting something about your ROM. LOS is well known enough for apps to look for certain properties of it.
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My main guess is that it's detecting something about your ROM. LOS is well known enough for apps to look for certain properties of it.
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Yes, after searching around a bit more I found about why. I completely forgot that I had flashed supersu on my phone before flashing magisk. So I guess that's what the app was freaking out about. So I flashed a supersu removal and reflashed my ROM, now the app is working normally
Thanks for the help!
Same problem
Hello everyone
After the last update of my banking app and wallet too
Both apps stopped starting due tl root device detection
While it was working well yesterday
I just updat apps to the last version
I think these app's developers find a way to detect magisk
Of course im hiding and randomly renaming it
hammohammo said:
Hello everyone
After the last update of my banking app and wallet too
Both apps stopped starting due tl root device detection
While it was working well yesterday
I just updat apps to the last version
I think these app's developers find a way to detect magisk
Of course im hiding and randomly renaming it
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What version of the application do you want?
I have the latest version installed and it does not detect root
Hey, I rooted my phone just yesterday, and today I went to musescore just to see that they for whatever reason don't allow rooted phones to use their app?
So I tried enabling zygisk, DenyList, and I added musescore to the denylist and restarted my phone, but somehow musescore still knows that I'm rooted.
Is it possible that vbmeta is somehow related? if so then what file exactly am I supposed to flash as vbmeta (I use custom ROM).
If not, then what can I do to hide root from the app?
YayJohn said:
Hey, I rooted my phone just yesterday, and today I went to musescore just to see that they for whatever reason don't allow rooted phones to use their app?
So I tried enabling zygisk, DenyList, and I added musescore to the denylist and restarted my phone, but somehow musescore still knows that I'm rooted.
Is it possible that vbmeta is somehow related? if so then what file exactly am I supposed to flash as vbmeta (I use custom ROM).
If not, then what can I do to hide root from the app?
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After force deny list did you've deleted caches of google play and google services and reboot? check also google play store inside settings if certified, if certified then it should work for your app too.
Maybe try installing Universal SafetyNet Fix?
GitHub - kdrag0n/safetynet-fix: Google SafetyNet attestation workarounds for Magisk
Google SafetyNet attestation workarounds for Magisk - GitHub - kdrag0n/safetynet-fix: Google SafetyNet attestation workarounds for Magisk
github.com
And some applications can be extra finicky. LIke for me, Google Pay always takes its time to get persuaded about not being rooted. Also there might be other components either of this app or for system apps that might need hiding. I would generally try following guides for making banking apps work.
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Hey, I rooted my phone just yesterday, and today I went to musescore just to see that they for whatever reason don't allow rooted phones to use their app?
So I tried enabling zygisk, DenyList, and I added musescore to the denylist and restarted my phone, but somehow musescore still knows that I'm rooted.
Is it possible that vbmeta is somehow related? if so then what file exactly am I supposed to flash as vbmeta (I use custom ROM).
If not, then what can I do to hide root from the app?
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I'm not familiar with that app, but I know that some apps also check for the presence of the Magisk Manager app. If you've already tried Zygisk and the deny list, then another thing to do would be to hide the Magisk app. It the Magisk Manager, go to Settings > Hide Magisk app.
What worked for me is installing Insular ( from Fdroid) and then clone the App that complains about root to the work environment.
I just downloaded musescore and installed it. It hasn't detected root on my phone. I use Shamiko to hide root. Get Fox's magisk module manager from fdroid. Then use it to install Shamiko. Make sure you turn off Enforce Denylist in magisk so Shamiko can enforce the deny list. Hide the magisk app using the feature in magisk. It works for me.
YayJohn said:
Hey, I rooted my phone just yesterday, and today I went to musescore just to see that they for whatever reason don't allow rooted phones to use their app?
So I tried enabling zygisk, DenyList, and I added musescore to the denylist and restarted my phone, but somehow musescore still knows that I'm rooted.
Is it possible that vbmeta is somehow related? if so then what file exactly am I supposed to flash as vbmeta (I use custom ROM).
If not, then what can I do to hide root from the app?
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Oh yes I can't seem to open musescore too even with safety net pass. But it is because I am using MicroG. I tried it on my other phone with Play Services and it works fine with hidden root (shamiko and magisk disabled) and safety net pass.
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Oh yes I can't seem to open musescore too even with safety net pass. But it is because I am using MicroG. I tried it on my other phone with Play Services and it works fine with hidden root (shamiko and magisk disabled) and safety net pass.
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I use MicroG as well. I can load the app and use it, I just can't subscribe because it requires GSF to make payment.
IrishJames said:
I use MicroG as well. I can load the app and use it, I just can't subscribe because it requires GSF to make payment.
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You can open it right? But can you select and open a random piano piece or something like that. For me, the piece loads up then detects something (root, safety net idk) then just tells me I can't for root reasons. I tried using shamiko too and all the root hiding methods I know and I still couldn't open a piece. It does load the main menu for me too on MicroG+patch playstore but can't open the contents.
It's been roughly a month. Has anyone found a fix for this issue yet? There was discussion about the issue here where a dev 'fixed' the app for someone with a rooted phone. However I cant tell what the dev did because all his messages are deleted, for all I know he could of shared an apk or something, guess I'll never know. I've decided to try to get in contact with one of the people whose issue managed to get fixed, although I don't know if he'll ever respond. Apparently in the forum, he told the dev that he assumed the block was intentional. Maybe this could hint us towards a fix because maybe the block doesn't target rooted users?
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I tried using shamiko too and all the root hiding methods I know and I still couldn't open a piece.
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If thats the case then perhaps the app isin't checking for root? Theres no way musescore has more sophisticated anti-root software than some banking apps out there. Perhaps it's detecting the os that the user uses instead? I can confirm this because my samsung s7 edge with the same lineage os version as my Xiaomi doesn't want to play any scores either. This issue also happens to people who have no custom rom or even no root, it has to do with the os that you use rather than being an issue with root.
So what, did I type 2 paragraphs on a one month old forum just to rant? No. I will find the issue (well, I already found the reason in the text above), and I will try to fix it, not by making any workarounds such as cloning the app but getting the app to reliably work on a rooted / custom rom phone.
EDIT: Maybe using something to spoof the OS to make apps think it's a different OS?
POTENTIAL FIX: So in new versions of magisk, the developer decided to remove magiskhide. Turns out that having magiskhide turned on makes musescore actually be able to function. I tested this on my samsung s7 edge (didn't want to brick my Xiaomi phone by accident just yet and it worked. However I labelled this 'POTENTIAL' as downgrading magisk isin't really a plausible fix and could still be considered a workaround.
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It's been roughly a month. Has anyone found a fix for this issue yet? There was discussion about the issue here where a dev 'fixed' the app for someone with a rooted phone. However I cant tell what the dev did because all his messages are deleted, for all I know he could of shared an apk or something, guess I'll never know. I've decided to try to get in contact with one of the people whose issue managed to get fixed, although I don't know if he'll ever respond. Apparently in the forum, he told the dev that he assumed the block was intentional. Maybe this could hint us towards a fix because maybe the block doesn't target rooted users?
If thats the case then perhaps the app isin't checking for root? Theres no way musescore has more sophisticated anti-root software than some banking apps out there. Perhaps it's detecting the os that the user uses instead? I can confirm this because my samsung s7 edge with the same lineage os version as my Xiaomi doesn't want to play any scores either. This issue also happens to people who have no custom rom or even no root, it has to do with the os that you use rather than being an issue with root.
So what, did I type 2 paragraphs on a one month old forum just to rant? No. I will find the issue (well, I already found the reason in the text above), and I will try to fix it, not by making any workarounds such as cloning the app but getting the app to reliably work on a rooted / custom rom phone.
EDIT: Maybe using something to spoof the OS to make apps think it's a different OS?
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Its not opening for me because I'm using MicroG. Like banking apps, MuseScore checks for specific Play Services version. Since microg uses idk android4.4 play services, it will fail to load any Banking Apps or apps of the same kind that uses that check regardless of root 'cause that version's too old and a potential for security. For the OS check, I guess it does check it too. I tried on two emulators and both failed to load a piece as well (might be because of safetynet cuz emulators can't pass it). There are xposed and magisk modules that can spoof OS and even prevent the app from seeing user installed apps. I haven't tried that method because I switched ROM now and got MuseScore working fine even without hiding root.
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Its not opening for me because I'm using MicroG. Like banking apps, MuseScore checks for specific Play Services version. Since microg uses idk android4.4 play services, it will fail to load any Banking Apps or apps of the same kind that uses that check regardless of root 'cause that version's too old and a potential for security. For the OS check, I guess it does check it too. I tried on two emulators and both failed to load a piece as well (might be because of safetynet cuz emulators can't pass it). There are xposed and magisk modules that can spoof OS and even prevent the app from seeing user installed apps. I haven't tried that method because I switched ROM now and got MuseScore working fine even without hiding root.
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Weird. I have microG and I managed to get musescore working without switching roms. All I did was use safety net fix, enabled zygisk and added it to the deny list. Tried it before and it didn't work, probably because I didn't install safetynet fix. Who knows, maybe it's related to what type of GApps you install. I guess this issue is fixed for now.