Got a phone call from T-Mobile saying that the Pixel 4XL I activated last year will not work when T-Mobile repurposes Sprint's 4G bands. I can't believe this: this is a carrier-unlocked phone I got on eBay; I would have been able to activate it on T-Mobile just as well as I did on Sprint. The guy from T-Mobile swore that the phone will not work when they do the cutover. Is this really true?
I also have a Samsung Galaxy Tab A tablet that the T-Mobile guy says will work fine after the switch if I just swap the SIM for a T-Mobile one; he said this was possible because the tablet does not need to do VoLTE. Could a SIM swap let me continue using my Pixel?
I really like this phone. I've seen people complain about the phone's big forehead. For me, that's a non-issue. I love Soli's ability to wake up the display when it detects motion. I'd like to hold off on another round of researching what phone has features I want--features which include the ability to unlock the boot loader. I'm in no hurry to get 5G.
Hi!
I wrote a post on how to get any SIM work with any Pixel, independent of the carrier.
I am still looking on how to unlock the bootloader.
I think I am close to get it working, however I need to test my theory yet. Here is a thread of a guy that has a similar issue, and I told him how to use SIM on his Pixel and shared my progress about unlocking the bootloader on this kind of devices.
Hope this helps you!
I moved my (unlocked, purchased from Google) 4XL from Sprint to TMo, and have heard nothing from TMo. One of the reasons I bought the 4XL was because it had coverage of all of the TMo bands (at the time). I think you're getting bad info. I think the guy at the store needs to sell more phones to make his quota.
On the TMo web site, go to the 'bring your own phone' page under Phones&Devices. Enter the IMEI and it will tell you what you need to know. This is what mine said:
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That was a nice suggestion to try the bring-your-own-device page. I got those same happy fully-compatible/not-blocked messages as @batteryguy got when I entered my IEMI. The woman at the T-Mobile store told me that she was surprised to see that result since the indication she had from her tools was that the phone would not be compatible.
Ah, but I got some insight when I asked about getting a T-Mobile SIM for the tablet. She said that the tablet also wasn't set to come over now to T-Mobile (as the guy on the phone had told me), but left it open that the transition would come later.
Soo--from what I can gather, everyone now on Sprint will be transferred fully to T-Mobile in the next months. When that happens, it looks like we can bring our compatible devices fully into happy land.
If I can make that transition without picking up T-Mobile's bloatware, that will be a big win.
We made the move from Sprint to TMo 6-8 months ago. Even though my wife is a Sprint retiree and got a special rate on Sprint, we ended up paying less on TMo than we were paying for Sprint. It's great paying a flat $35/month for unlimited everything, without all the added fees Sprint added on top of your plan. Plus, when we go overseas, we can buy a cheap SIM and pop it into my 4XL. Don't let TMo sell you a SIM, ask them to activate the internal eSIM and it will leave the SIM slot open.
Coverage is MUCH better, both in town and on the road. She got a 5G phone (Sansung A71 5G) for 'free', and it's a nice phone. Unfortunately, 5G has been worthless for her so far. It's seldom faster than 4G, and often slower.
There is no bloatware unless you want it and install it yourself. TMo has the usual account management apps plus the T-Mobile Tuesday app. I'm sure there are others, but I've not needed any of them.
I wouldn't wait. Go ahead and make the move now.
We have also been getting these notices from Sprint. Unfortunately, my mom dead dropped her phone this week. She went to the store (*parents) to activate her Note and was denied, told she will have to "upgrade." They're already not activating anything not 5g capable.
But my xt1766 is gsm/cdma/4g so if true, and it stops working in March of 2022 they are in fact going to lose a huge market of consumers.
I will just find a new carrier. I love my old phone and have no issues whatsoever with it. I don't care that they're offering some low level credits for a new model. $200 and below it seems. These new products are glitchy, break easily, and most importantly the mining and production is still destroying the environment. I shouldn't have to replace a new phone, screen protector, case, cord etc just because these 3 companies have monopoly in this dumb reality. This is a prime example of how broken the capitalist system is. Sprint/T-Mobile can suck it.
Anyone know who will take my money? I'm off to continue imei checking...
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is it possible to purchase a Nexus 1 that will work on both tmobile and att 3g?
Also will the at&t nexus 1 work on at&t 4g network when it is released?
It can work on either carrier's EDGE network, but the 3G bands are different. So you can buy the At&t 3G one and it'll work 100% on At&t but only have EDGE on T-Mobile. Or you can buy the T-Mobile 3G version and have the opposite.
For 4G, no, the N1 will not work with At&t's 4G network. It doesn't support HSPA+. You can enable HSUPA for faster uploads, so it'll support full 3G.
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It can work on either carrier's EDGE network, but the 3G bands are different. So you can buy the At&t 3G one and it'll work 100% on At&t but only have EDGE on T-Mobile. Or you can buy the T-Mobile 3G version and have the opposite.
For 4G, no, the N1 will not work with At&t's 4G network. It doesn't support HSPA+. You can enable HSUPA for faster uploads, so it'll support full 3G.
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Out of curiosity...how do you enable HSUPA?
I have a non-branded Nexus One but I use it through T-Mobile.. (on that note, I didn't know there was a AT&T branded and T-Mobile branded one....I thought they were all non-branded since you had to buy them through the Google site)
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I have a non-branded Nexus One but I use it through T-Mobile.. (on that note, I didn't know there was a AT&T branded and T-Mobile branded one....I thought they were all non-branded since you had to buy them through the Google site)
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I don't think that any of the Nexus One's are actually branded, (they both look the same). I have an AT&T one and it does not say AT&T on it anywhere, it just has the right frequencies for AT&T 3G.
AT&T
I read somewhere if it has PB99110 under the battery it supports AT&T 3g. On a side note I haven't seen any AT&T "4G" speed tests that makes me want to go run out and purchase a 4G device.
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I bought mine without any sort of contract agreement or upgrade from either company ( non subsidized ...paid full price). I would then assume it supports either companies 3G bands, considering those factors..
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I bought mine without any sort of contract agreement or upgrade from either company ( non subsidized ...paid full price). I would then assume it supports either companies 3G bands, considering those factors..
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Unfortunately not. There are 2 different nexus one versions out there, t-mobile and ATT 3g versions. You have to get the right one for each. Both have world 2100 though.
The ATT version stopped being sold long ago, the t-mobile only one still being sold.
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I bought mine without any sort of contract agreement or upgrade from either company ( non subsidized ...paid full price). I would then assume it supports either companies 3G bands, considering those factors..
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I would suggest you do more research before you by a phone
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I would suggest you do more research before you by a phone
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I'm not sure what your suggesting because, again, I bought my phone on release day off the Google site....without having a contract to either company.
I got the phone and subscribed to T-Mobile after a few days of having it, I had no prior company before (well I had MetroPCS).
So your basically suggesting that I got completely lucky that I received a T-Mobile version? I'm not exactly sure that's the case. Unless strictly T-Mobile was the only company supporting it on release, which I don't recall to be totally honest.
yes, the t-mobile version was the only one available at launch
the at&t version did not become available until around april or may, just like how the nexus s is only now becoming available for at&t* and sprint while it has been available for t-mobile for quite some time
so you didn't just get a t-mobile version by chance but you are lucky that you weren't planning on using it on at&t because you wouldn't have been able to get 3g
*I know that at&t is not actually selling the nexus s but there is a version with at&t bands in canada
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I'm not sure what your suggesting because, again, I bought my phone on release day off the Google site....without having a contract to either company.
I got the phone and subscribed to T-Mobile after a few days of having it, I had no prior company before (well I had MetroPCS).
So your basically suggesting that I got completely lucky that I received a T-Mobile version? I'm not exactly sure that's the case. Unless strictly T-Mobile was the only company supporting it on release, which I don't recall to be totally honest.
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Yes, you were lucky you were on T-Mobile. Because there was only the T-Mobile version at that time.
And you seem to think that a phone working on one type of 3G and not another has something to do with signing contracts. That is not the case. The more bands a phone supports, the harder it is to get good antenna. Basically a phone has to be designed for a small subset of all possible frequencies. That's why there were two versions of the Nexus One. One for the AT&T frequencies, and one for the T-Mobile frequencies.
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Yes, you were lucky you were on T-Mobile. Because there was only the T-Mobile version at that time.
And you seem to think that a phone working on one type of 3G and not another has something to do with signing contracts. That is not the case. The more bands a phone supports, the harder it is to get good antenna. Basically a phone has to be designed for a small subset of all possible frequencies. That's why there were two versions of the Nexus One. One for the AT&T frequencies, and one for the T-Mobile frequencies.
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No, I understand the difference between frequencies and such. I wasn't saying just because there was no contract it works on both...I was just saying that because I thought (which was corrected and it was only released on T-Mobile at first) it was sold for both initially and I never selected one it must have ran both frequencies. Again, that was my incorrect assumption. I didn't realize it was initially released by T-Mobile exclusively.
My phone keeps on jumping back and forth. At places where I would normally get full strength with other phones. I get little to no signal. Whats wrong?? I'm on T-Mobile.
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Experiencing same thing, brand new T-Mo N6.....subd for more info
Same thing is happening to me. I've tested my phone on both T-Mobile and Verizon; same thing happens. I'm getting similar signal strength to a MotoX (2nd gen) on Verizon as well. However, in my battery stats, it's a blood bath. I have only gotten it to go green for a slither of that.
Seems typical for a Nexus. Nexus 5 did/does the same thing and it was never fixed.
I'm having the same issue but on ATT.
Exact same issue. I'm on Verizon. I was just thinking of posting the same thing, so thanks for jumping on this.
What's weird is that my N6 will show good signal in my room, but often times when I try to call someone, I hear no ringing and the call does not connect. A minute later, it will show that I have no signal.
I ran into another similar issue at the mall the other day. It was showing that I had good signal (LTE), but try as I might I couldn't get any webpages to load. Initially I thought it might have something to do with how many people were at the mall (this was on Black Friday), but I borrowed my dad's Moto X (also on Verizon) and had no problems loading webpages instantly. At this point, not sure if I have a defective unit, or do all N6 have this issue.
My second n6 first one had this issue and T-Mobile did trouble shooting the told me to exchange it. Second one not much better. Right now have no signal and have to switch it to 2g for calls WiFi for data.
I wonder if this has anything to do with the initial setup. When I receive my Nexus 6 on Thursday I'm going to put my existing Verizon Sim card in before even booting the phone up for the first time. Not sure if it makes any difference here..... Our if any of you have tried a factory reset?
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Same type of thing on Sprint. Sometimes after a reboot it re activates and takes like 5 Mins. But signal jumps in and out often.
mjs2011 said:
I wonder if this has anything to do with the initial setup. When I receive my Nexus 6 on Thursday I'm going to put my existing Verizon Sim card in before even booting the phone up for the first time. Not sure if it makes any difference here..... Our if any of you have tried a factory reset?
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I have performed a full factory reset (back to stock, flashed stock images, etc.); still doesn't make a difference.
Hmmm.... Well hopefully a software update will fix it. I seem to remember the Nexus 5 getting am update that fixed some Sprint signal issues.
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don't know if this will help, but... when i received my N6 the Cellular Network Setting (Settings->More->Celluar Network->Preferred Network Type) was set to Global and battery stats indicated i had poor signal (and occasionally it was bad.) i changed the setting to LTE (recommended) and signal was better and battery stats showed a good signal (e.g., no more red/orange) throughout the day
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don't know if this will help, but... when i received my N6 the Cellular Network Setting (Settings->More->Celluar Network->Preferred Network Type) was set to Global and battery stats indicated i had poor signal (and occasionally it was bad.) i changed the setting to LTE (recommended) and signal was better and battery stats showed a good signal (e.g., no more red/orange) throughout the day
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Was just gonna post same thing lol
cortez.i said:
don't know if this will help, but... when i received my N6 the Cellular Network Setting (Settings->More->Celluar Network->Preferred Network Type) was set to Global and battery stats indicated i had poor signal (and occasionally it was bad.) i changed the setting to LTE (recommended) and signal was better and battery stats showed a good signal (e.g., no more red/orange) throughout the day
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I have tried both Global and LTE; neither seem to behave differently on Verizon. I'm actually RMA'ing my N6 in hopes that its hardware.
I just got my N6 from the GPS and activated on Verizon last night. Same thing with the signal going in and out without moving at all. Really odd, never had a phone do this. It shows signal more often, than not, but I am having the same problem....
There are a few threads on this from various carriers. This is the first I've seen people with VZW chiming in. It's definitely something with the N6, and if it's hardware then it needs to be recalled with that many people having this issue. My thoughts are its software. Could be a settings issue too, but I've tried various APNs. Tmo told me to call CS, but since I don't have another phone to call from I'll probably go into a store. They won't fix it though, even a replacement won't. Someone's already tried to work with CS and got a replacement that had the same issue. I also had another N6 from Moto's store that I returned, which had the same issue.
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There are a few threads on this from various carriers. This is the first I've seen people with VZW chiming in. It's definitely something with the N6, and if it's hardware then it needs to be recalled with that many people having this issue. My thoughts are its software. Could be a settings issue too, but I've tried various APNs. Tmo told me to call CS, but since I don't have another phone to call from I'll probably go into a store. They won't fix it though, even a replacement won't. Someone's already tried to work with CS and got a replacement that had the same issue. I also had another N6 from Moto's store that I returned, which had the same issue.
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I'm RMA'ing my N6 from Google. Doubt it will be fixed though.
However, I think it's something on Verizon's end; I feel like it might be related to the N6 not being sold by Verizon yet, and when it is officially sold by Verizon, these issues will lessen. I've seen plenty of people say this phone gets superior reception. I'm positive it's Verizon's fault.
Same issue as everyone else - on T-Mobile. I only have the issue on LTE, though. The ASU bumps up to 99 every few minutes and then drops back down. No such problem on 3G.
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I'm RMA'ing my N6 from Google. Doubt it will be fixed though.
However, I think it's something on Verizon's end; I feel like it might be related to the N6 not being sold by Verizon yet, and when it is officially sold by Verizon, these issues will lessen. I've seen plenty of people say this phone gets superior reception. I'm positive it's Verizon's fault.
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In an early post you said you tested on VZW and TMO and had the same issue...but you think it's something on VZW end? The only issue I think VZW customers will encounter is voice and data working at the same time, until they update it. The signal issue is happening on all carriers. Maybe not to everyone, but more than enough for there to be an issue that can't be cast at the carriers imo.
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In an early post you said you tested on VZW and TMO and had the same issue...but you think it's something on VZW end? The only issue I think VZW customers will encounter is voice and data working at the same time, until they update it. The signal issue is happening on all carriers. Maybe not to everyone, but more than enough for there to be an issue that can't be cast at the carriers imo.
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I think it's happening more on Verizon. People I've talked to who have this issue tend to be on Verizon.
Can you guys tell me the pros of moving to t-mobile vs sticking with verizon? My main motivation is the fact that Verizon keeps selling locked bootloader phones so I can't ever mod them. Seriously frustrating. Is it true that all of t-mobiles phones are unlockable or already come unlocked? Also what are the average LTE speeds you guys see when doing speed tests on the tmobile network?
Thanks.
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Can you guys tell me the pros of moving to t-mobile vs sticking with verizon? My main motivation is the fact that Verizon keeps selling locked bootloader phones so I can't ever mod them. Seriously frustrating. Is it true that all of t-mobiles phones are unlockable or already come unlocked? Also what are the average LTE speeds you guys see when doing speed tests on the tmobile network?
Thanks.
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I have been on tmobile for years. The Samsung galaxy series has been easy to root and mod. If you live in a rural are the coverage can be spotty. They do have tbe wifi calling though as well so that is an added plus. Speeds work fine for me normal use.
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I have been on tmobile for years. The Samsung galaxy series has been easy to root and mod. If you live in a rural are the coverage can be spotty. They do have tbe wifi calling though as well so that is an added plus. Speeds work fine for me normal use.
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Any chance you could run a speedtest.net app and tell me the results? I know it wont be the same in all areas but it's nice to see what they are capable of.
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Any chance you could run a speedtest.net app and tell me the results? I know it wont be the same in all areas but it's nice to see what they are capable of.
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I can give it a go tomorrow when I am out and about.
I switched to T-Mobile last year I used to have Verizon and the speed and service was great but they didn't offer unlimited data and that is what I wanted so I switched but in my area they need more antennas because it gets to congested at times to the point that data isn't working and my average speed is 15 mb
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I can give it a go tomorrow when I am out and about.
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No service at the house? haha. That's not looking good for T-Mobile
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Can you guys tell me the pros of moving to t-mobile vs sticking with verizon? My main motivation is the fact that Verizon keeps selling locked bootloader phones so I can't ever mod them. Seriously frustrating. Is it true that all of t-mobiles phones are unlockable or already come unlocked? Also what are the average LTE speeds you guys see when doing speed tests on the tmobile network?
Thanks.
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I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile myself, and am totally glad I did.
Pros:
- cheaper
- offers an unlimited data plan, free international 3G data and texting (invaluable service when you travel; I've taken advantage of this too many times), many music/video streaming services don't count against your data bucket (if you don't have unlimited)
- no contracts
- the Jump/upgrade program is pretty good if you switch phones regularly
- phones can be unlocked at anytime, as long as you have paid off your phone
Cons
- I travel quite a bit, and have found that their coverage isn't consistent in rural areas (urban cities are mostly fine though)
- S6 still hasn't received the Marshmallow update (though with Verizon updates took just as long), so software updates are slow
- speeds are not as fast as Verizon, I usually average 10% slower than when I was on Verizon (personally it doesn't feel significantly slower to be annoying)
Switched couple months ago and couldn't be happier. For what I was paying verizon for a locked phone for myself I get two unlocked phones for myself and the little lady with tmobile. with binge on and free streaming music I barely have any other data use 2.1gig last month. my average for the music alone is 8gig and that doesn't count anymore . And i get better signal at home ! Verizon unusable in my house tmobile is better plus can use wifi calling so now thinking can finally drop landline.
Switch as quickly as you can and don't look back
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No service at the house? haha. That's not looking good for T-Mobile
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I live in a brick and stucko house. No one gets great service in the house regardless of provider.
T-Mobile's service is much better with a band 12 phone, like the S6. I was amazed by the significant reception improvement over my S4 (non-band 12). Even T-Mobile's old band 4 LTE signal is much better on the S6. I work in the center of an office building (1950's building with brick, stucko, and asbestos ) and I get amazing LTE reception with my S6, whereas my S4 got no reception.
Stick with Verizon if you travel a lot or are in rural areas. I live near Los Angeles, so reception is not a problem.
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Can you guys tell me the pros of moving to t-mobile vs sticking with verizon? My main motivation is the fact that Verizon keeps selling locked bootloader phones so I can't ever mod them. Seriously frustrating. Is it true that all of t-mobiles phones are unlockable or already come unlocked? Also what are the average LTE speeds you guys see when doing speed tests on the tmobile network?
Thanks.
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T-Mobile's connection and speeds aren't always reliable. I think Verizon is way better and you should stick with them if you had the money because I know I would. I'm going to go stock anyways because I want MM (no roms for that on S6 T-mo yet) and Samsung pay. Plus, some roms have apps that work a little differently (not a deal breaker, but annoying for me) and I cannot pickup calls sometimes (deal breaker, very frustrating).
I absolutely love tmobile. I like what the company is doing and most importantly there customer service. At one point a better service plan came out that was cheaper but still all of the same features... and they had zero issues switching it over. What company does that? Most will say its only avaliable to new customers.. not tmobile. Yes service can be limited in some area but they are still in the middle of switching off old 2g and replacing it with LTE. Major improvements in the past 6months. That all said no other carrier can match tmobile speeds at my home or work.
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If you travel a ton... stick with Verizon or wait another year.
I should add the new s7 has locked bootloader on tmobile so mods are limited... Aka no root yet.
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Well, that stinks. It's a great device marred with a very silly decision. Guess mine is going back.
Yes it's a shame, so we have one t-mobile user with no luck, anyone with att try it yet? Or possibly another person with t mobile, just to repeat the experiment for consistency?
I am willing to switch to AT&T - in fact, would prefer to have my iPhone on one carrier, and my Android on another - but the support response doesn't make me hopeful.
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I am willing to switch to AT&T - in fact, would prefer to have my iPhone on one carrier, and my Android on another - but the support response doesn't make me hopeful.
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You could bring it to att store, ask them to put a sim in see if it works with their store account, if it works gget the prepaid and switch over. They got a 65 plan that is 50 after u get auto pay. 22 gig high speed unlimited.
Maybe try, if they say no or doesn't work return it. I figure the phone specs are worth the attempt
Screnshot from u tube vid rog 2 with att
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Yes it's a shame, so we have one t-mobile user with no luck, anyone with att try it yet? Or possibly another person with t mobile, just to repeat the experiment for consistency?
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VoLTE works on the Chinese rom. I'm guessing next update will fix it in global rom (especially because a lot of folks are complaining about this). Wifi calling doesn't require any special hardware, so I'm guessing that's a possibility down the line if enough folks complain.
Phone nails all the basics (camera, screen, battery, performance), hopefully they add volte and wifi calling in the near future. Very close to perfection!
Email from Asus about Verizon just for fun
Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service. My name is Zavion S. I hope all is well. I am seeing here that you have an inquiry about the ROG Phone II supporting the Verizon network. I am more than happy to assist you in resolving this matter. The speculation of the ROG Phone II supporting the Verizon network is regrettably false as the final product will be unable to support it. It is compatible with GSM Networks including AT&T, T-Mobile, Straight Talk, Walmart Family Mobile, MetroPCS, Simple Mobile, Brightspot, Net10, h20 Wireless, and Cricket Wireless. I do apologize for any inconveniences cause and hope you have a wonderful day!
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Email from Asus about Verizon just for fun
Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service. My name is Zavion S. I hope all is well. I am seeing here that you have an inquiry about the ROG Phone II supporting the Verizon network. I am more than happy to assist you in resolving this matter. The speculation of the ROG Phone II supporting the Verizon network is regrettably false as the final product will be unable to support it. It is compatible with GSM Networks including AT&T, T-Mobile, Straight Talk, Walmart Family Mobile, MetroPCS, Simple Mobile, Brightspot, Net10, h20 Wireless, and Cricket Wireless. I do apologize for any inconveniences cause and hope you have a wonderful day!
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So barring any miracles or super secret work arounds, I'm out and back to square one. The Razer 2 has also been on my mind, but mostly because of the price ($350 at Best Buy) and it's still an LCD screen. If only LG would release something like the V20, but with updated specs. I'd take that even over the ROG II.
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So barring any miracles or super secret work arounds, I'm out and back to square one. The Razer 2 has also been on my mind, but mostly because of the price ($350 at Best Buy) and it's still an LCD screen. If only LG would release something like the V20, but with updated specs. I'd take that even over the ROG II.
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I would avoid the Razer cause only 845 processor and no aptx Bluetooth codex and camera is just so so. U less ur phone is like 6 years old better to wait for something with 855 plus processor with Android 10 and 11 proofing it
Mr_Mooncatt said:
So barring any miracles or super secret work arounds, I'm out and back to square one. The Razer 2 has also been on my mind, but mostly because of the price ($350 at Best Buy) and it's still an LCD screen. If only LG would release something like the V20, but with updated specs. I'd take that even over the ROG II.
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The LCD on the Razer is pretty darned good. I the phone overall is pretty solid. The drawbacks for me are mic when using speakerphone is wonky (introduced with MR0 update) and no aptX or LDAC. I use speakerphone a lot and most of my audio stuff is aptX HD or LDAC so gonna sell the Razer Phone 2 and evidently keep looking.
One plus 7t released, maybe you should get that loos pretty awesome no crappy pop up camera,, 855 plus t mobile will be selling it, 90hz display little less battery but slimmer I'm gonna prob get the McLaren edition the one that is still rumored lol
Just talked to support again. They reiterated no go for VoLTE and VoWifi on American carriers. Zip. Shame, as the phone is so good otherwise. What a helluva thing for them to disable.
Cellendril said:
Just talked to support again. They reiterated no go for VoLTE and VoWifi on American carriers. Zip. Shame, as the phone is so good otherwise. What a helluva thing for them to disable.
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It's like having a Ferrari, opening the gas tank for a fill up and finding a straw coming out. You pump gas and 2 percent goes in the rest falls to your feet,
. Yeah it will work but how many attempts, how far will you get how many disconnects. Tell them to remove the f ing straw haha
Cellendril said:
Just talked to support again. They reiterated no go for VoLTE and VoWifi on American carriers. Zip. Shame, as the phone is so good otherwise. What a helluva thing for them to disable.
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It's technically the carriers that disable it. It works fine on carriers in other countries using the same exact ROM image. The US carriers require payment to enable/test/certify those features and North American sales volume likely doesn't justify it for Asus' North American division.
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It's technically the carriers that disable it. It works fine on carriers in other countries using the same exact ROM image. The US carriers require payment to enable/test/certify those features and North American sales volume likely doesn't justify it for Asus' North American division.
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I used to work with carriers more than a decade ago. I had hoped this attitude would change. It's easy enough to isolate and block a rogue device - the concern back then. Also still baffling why Asus would disable - why not enable, and if the carrier lets it by, that's on the carrier, not Asus.
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I used to work with carriers more than a decade ago. I had hoped this attitude would change. It's easy enough to isolate and block a rogue device - the concern back then. Also still baffling why Asus would disable - why not enable, and if the carrier lets it by, that's on the carrier, not Asus.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/co...one_2_does_support_volte_wifi_calling/e9pgamd
What about Google Voice? It would use data, but wouldn't it stay on LTE instead of dropping to 3g?
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What about Google Voice? It would use data, but wouldn't it stay on LTE instead of dropping to 3g?
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I tried this. Google Voice let's you choose between using your phone app to make calls or using a data connection. The data connection option sounds better.
This is incorrect !!! ATT is also going to HD Audio dio & VoLTE within the year - got f' email saying my ROG II (only 3 months old) will no longer be supported. I now have a "$1000 paperweight" - ASUS doesn't care, I have tried and now trying to get straight answer out of ATT.
Decide to try the X70', wish I knew that I didn't work with most of the carriers in the US. Unless I did something wrong I could only get t-mobile to work and even then not that well. Any suggestions on carriers? Love the phone so far but if I can't use it as a phone it's kinda pointless.
As you can see below you have decent coverage on 4g and even some on 5g if you mean x70 pro+:
Will vivo X70 Pro+ work in USA?
In this page we are going to show you the compatibility of vivo X70 Pro+ with the mobile networks of USA and with the telephony operators that provide service in USA.
www.kimovil.com
I don't know your specific carrier frequency, but this are the supported ones: (Vivo X70 - no pro or plus)
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As you can see below you have decent coverage on 4g and even some on 5g if you mean x70 pro+:
Will vivo X70 Pro+ work in USA?
In this page we are going to show you the compatibility of vivo X70 Pro+ with the mobile networks of USA and with the telephony operators that provide service in USA.
www.kimovil.com
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I don't know your specific carrier frequency, but this are the supported ones: (Vivo X70 - no pro or plus)
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Awesome, appreciate the links I’ll take a look!
Update: Verizon does not support the vivo x70 pro. I spent 4 hours at the store working with reps to get the Sim activated and it just wouldn't work. I don't know if it was the +86 imei (China) number or not but it could not activate a Sim on Verizons CDMA network. This is unfortunate since t-mobile is okay at best with the network coverage with this phone.
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Update: Verizon does not support the vivo x70 pro. I spent 4 hours at the store working with reps to get the Sim activated and it just wouldn't work. I don't know if it was the +86 imei (China) number or not but it could not activate a Sim on Verizons CDMA network. This is unfortunate since t-mobile is okay at best with the network coverage with this phone.
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Do you already have X70 pro (or it is pro+?)? I'm not an expert but regarding my experience frequencies are not a problem, you simply can't activate a new phone on Verizon CDMA without provider's approval. And you won't get approval for a Chinese phone that doesn't sell in the USA. I also spent once more than two hours with a nice Verizon representative, but he couldn't get the phone (Huawei before ban) activated (more here: https://www.lifewire.com/gsm-edge-cdma-tdma-578682). But my daughter's phone (USA iphone) was activated without any problems and I can even get data on my phone after switching sim (but not calls).
But why even bother with the CDMA? It's obsolete long ago: https://www.fiercewireless.com/wireless/verizon-sets-final-deadline-for-3g-sunset.
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Do you already have X70 pro (or it is pro+?)? I'm not an expert but regarding my experience frequencies are not a problem, you simply can't activate a new phone on Verizon CDMA without provider's approval. And you won't get approval for a Chinese phone that doesn't sell in the USA. I also spent once more than two hours with a nice Verizon representative, but he couldn't get the phone (Huawei before ban) activated (more here: https://www.lifewire.com/gsm-edge-cdma-tdma-578682). But my daughter's phone (USA iphone) was activated without any problems and I can even get data on my phone after switching sim (but not calls).
But why even bother with the CDMA? It's obsolete long ago: https://www.fiercewireless.com/wireless/verizon-sets-final-deadline-for-3g-sunset.
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Yes I indeed have the Vivo X70 pro... If it is indeed the imei well I'm not sure what I can do about that since I don't know how to change it. I'm not going to argue which is better CDMA or GSM personally, I don't care.
You can't change the IMEI if you can't unlock bootloader. And even if you could, you risk a lot. So, I guess you can't have it both ways. If you have a firm reason to stay with Verizon, you should consider selling the phone. If not, you have way better options with T-mobile or ATT and their subsidiaries, not only having a working phone but experience full state-of-the-art options like VoWIFI, VoLTE, 5G (even aggregated with Tmo) and others.
I'm not too particular on Verizon but the platitude of information boasting how this phone is capable of supporting CDMA networks (Verizon) is the reason I'm bringing attention to this. This seems to be false advertising. I am using T-mobile and it hasn't been bad but that's not the issue. I dug around in the engineering mode and saw a few options (image below)
After going through I noticed that there was a CDMA option. I switched to the CDMA/GSM/LTE option and I haven't noticed any changes.
In conclusion, I have no idea what I'm doing nor how this phone works but I want to document this process for those who might get this phone in the future.
I'll update if I can work around this issue.