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Well, that stinks. It's a great device marred with a very silly decision. Guess mine is going back.
Yes it's a shame, so we have one t-mobile user with no luck, anyone with att try it yet? Or possibly another person with t mobile, just to repeat the experiment for consistency?
I am willing to switch to AT&T - in fact, would prefer to have my iPhone on one carrier, and my Android on another - but the support response doesn't make me hopeful.
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I am willing to switch to AT&T - in fact, would prefer to have my iPhone on one carrier, and my Android on another - but the support response doesn't make me hopeful.
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You could bring it to att store, ask them to put a sim in see if it works with their store account, if it works gget the prepaid and switch over. They got a 65 plan that is 50 after u get auto pay. 22 gig high speed unlimited.
Maybe try, if they say no or doesn't work return it. I figure the phone specs are worth the attempt
Screnshot from u tube vid rog 2 with att
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Yes it's a shame, so we have one t-mobile user with no luck, anyone with att try it yet? Or possibly another person with t mobile, just to repeat the experiment for consistency?
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VoLTE works on the Chinese rom. I'm guessing next update will fix it in global rom (especially because a lot of folks are complaining about this). Wifi calling doesn't require any special hardware, so I'm guessing that's a possibility down the line if enough folks complain.
Phone nails all the basics (camera, screen, battery, performance), hopefully they add volte and wifi calling in the near future. Very close to perfection!
Email from Asus about Verizon just for fun
Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service. My name is Zavion S. I hope all is well. I am seeing here that you have an inquiry about the ROG Phone II supporting the Verizon network. I am more than happy to assist you in resolving this matter. The speculation of the ROG Phone II supporting the Verizon network is regrettably false as the final product will be unable to support it. It is compatible with GSM Networks including AT&T, T-Mobile, Straight Talk, Walmart Family Mobile, MetroPCS, Simple Mobile, Brightspot, Net10, h20 Wireless, and Cricket Wireless. I do apologize for any inconveniences cause and hope you have a wonderful day!
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Email from Asus about Verizon just for fun
Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service. My name is Zavion S. I hope all is well. I am seeing here that you have an inquiry about the ROG Phone II supporting the Verizon network. I am more than happy to assist you in resolving this matter. The speculation of the ROG Phone II supporting the Verizon network is regrettably false as the final product will be unable to support it. It is compatible with GSM Networks including AT&T, T-Mobile, Straight Talk, Walmart Family Mobile, MetroPCS, Simple Mobile, Brightspot, Net10, h20 Wireless, and Cricket Wireless. I do apologize for any inconveniences cause and hope you have a wonderful day!
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So barring any miracles or super secret work arounds, I'm out and back to square one. The Razer 2 has also been on my mind, but mostly because of the price ($350 at Best Buy) and it's still an LCD screen. If only LG would release something like the V20, but with updated specs. I'd take that even over the ROG II.
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So barring any miracles or super secret work arounds, I'm out and back to square one. The Razer 2 has also been on my mind, but mostly because of the price ($350 at Best Buy) and it's still an LCD screen. If only LG would release something like the V20, but with updated specs. I'd take that even over the ROG II.
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I would avoid the Razer cause only 845 processor and no aptx Bluetooth codex and camera is just so so. U less ur phone is like 6 years old better to wait for something with 855 plus processor with Android 10 and 11 proofing it
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So barring any miracles or super secret work arounds, I'm out and back to square one. The Razer 2 has also been on my mind, but mostly because of the price ($350 at Best Buy) and it's still an LCD screen. If only LG would release something like the V20, but with updated specs. I'd take that even over the ROG II.
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The LCD on the Razer is pretty darned good. I the phone overall is pretty solid. The drawbacks for me are mic when using speakerphone is wonky (introduced with MR0 update) and no aptX or LDAC. I use speakerphone a lot and most of my audio stuff is aptX HD or LDAC so gonna sell the Razer Phone 2 and evidently keep looking.
One plus 7t released, maybe you should get that loos pretty awesome no crappy pop up camera,, 855 plus t mobile will be selling it, 90hz display little less battery but slimmer I'm gonna prob get the McLaren edition the one that is still rumored lol
Just talked to support again. They reiterated no go for VoLTE and VoWifi on American carriers. Zip. Shame, as the phone is so good otherwise. What a helluva thing for them to disable.
Cellendril said:
Just talked to support again. They reiterated no go for VoLTE and VoWifi on American carriers. Zip. Shame, as the phone is so good otherwise. What a helluva thing for them to disable.
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It's like having a Ferrari, opening the gas tank for a fill up and finding a straw coming out. You pump gas and 2 percent goes in the rest falls to your feet,
. Yeah it will work but how many attempts, how far will you get how many disconnects. Tell them to remove the f ing straw haha
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Just talked to support again. They reiterated no go for VoLTE and VoWifi on American carriers. Zip. Shame, as the phone is so good otherwise. What a helluva thing for them to disable.
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It's technically the carriers that disable it. It works fine on carriers in other countries using the same exact ROM image. The US carriers require payment to enable/test/certify those features and North American sales volume likely doesn't justify it for Asus' North American division.
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It's technically the carriers that disable it. It works fine on carriers in other countries using the same exact ROM image. The US carriers require payment to enable/test/certify those features and North American sales volume likely doesn't justify it for Asus' North American division.
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I used to work with carriers more than a decade ago. I had hoped this attitude would change. It's easy enough to isolate and block a rogue device - the concern back then. Also still baffling why Asus would disable - why not enable, and if the carrier lets it by, that's on the carrier, not Asus.
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I used to work with carriers more than a decade ago. I had hoped this attitude would change. It's easy enough to isolate and block a rogue device - the concern back then. Also still baffling why Asus would disable - why not enable, and if the carrier lets it by, that's on the carrier, not Asus.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/co...one_2_does_support_volte_wifi_calling/e9pgamd
What about Google Voice? It would use data, but wouldn't it stay on LTE instead of dropping to 3g?
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What about Google Voice? It would use data, but wouldn't it stay on LTE instead of dropping to 3g?
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I tried this. Google Voice let's you choose between using your phone app to make calls or using a data connection. The data connection option sounds better.
This is incorrect !!! ATT is also going to HD Audio dio & VoLTE within the year - got f' email saying my ROG II (only 3 months old) will no longer be supported. I now have a "$1000 paperweight" - ASUS doesn't care, I have tried and now trying to get straight answer out of ATT.
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is it possible to purchase a Nexus 1 that will work on both tmobile and att 3g?
Also will the at&t nexus 1 work on at&t 4g network when it is released?
It can work on either carrier's EDGE network, but the 3G bands are different. So you can buy the At&t 3G one and it'll work 100% on At&t but only have EDGE on T-Mobile. Or you can buy the T-Mobile 3G version and have the opposite.
For 4G, no, the N1 will not work with At&t's 4G network. It doesn't support HSPA+. You can enable HSUPA for faster uploads, so it'll support full 3G.
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It can work on either carrier's EDGE network, but the 3G bands are different. So you can buy the At&t 3G one and it'll work 100% on At&t but only have EDGE on T-Mobile. Or you can buy the T-Mobile 3G version and have the opposite.
For 4G, no, the N1 will not work with At&t's 4G network. It doesn't support HSPA+. You can enable HSUPA for faster uploads, so it'll support full 3G.
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Out of curiosity...how do you enable HSUPA?
I have a non-branded Nexus One but I use it through T-Mobile.. (on that note, I didn't know there was a AT&T branded and T-Mobile branded one....I thought they were all non-branded since you had to buy them through the Google site)
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I have a non-branded Nexus One but I use it through T-Mobile.. (on that note, I didn't know there was a AT&T branded and T-Mobile branded one....I thought they were all non-branded since you had to buy them through the Google site)
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I don't think that any of the Nexus One's are actually branded, (they both look the same). I have an AT&T one and it does not say AT&T on it anywhere, it just has the right frequencies for AT&T 3G.
AT&T
I read somewhere if it has PB99110 under the battery it supports AT&T 3g. On a side note I haven't seen any AT&T "4G" speed tests that makes me want to go run out and purchase a 4G device.
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Typical results from my Nexus1
I bought mine without any sort of contract agreement or upgrade from either company ( non subsidized ...paid full price). I would then assume it supports either companies 3G bands, considering those factors..
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I bought mine without any sort of contract agreement or upgrade from either company ( non subsidized ...paid full price). I would then assume it supports either companies 3G bands, considering those factors..
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Unfortunately not. There are 2 different nexus one versions out there, t-mobile and ATT 3g versions. You have to get the right one for each. Both have world 2100 though.
The ATT version stopped being sold long ago, the t-mobile only one still being sold.
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I bought mine without any sort of contract agreement or upgrade from either company ( non subsidized ...paid full price). I would then assume it supports either companies 3G bands, considering those factors..
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I would suggest you do more research before you by a phone
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Lightning N1 said:
I would suggest you do more research before you by a phone
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I'm not sure what your suggesting because, again, I bought my phone on release day off the Google site....without having a contract to either company.
I got the phone and subscribed to T-Mobile after a few days of having it, I had no prior company before (well I had MetroPCS).
So your basically suggesting that I got completely lucky that I received a T-Mobile version? I'm not exactly sure that's the case. Unless strictly T-Mobile was the only company supporting it on release, which I don't recall to be totally honest.
yes, the t-mobile version was the only one available at launch
the at&t version did not become available until around april or may, just like how the nexus s is only now becoming available for at&t* and sprint while it has been available for t-mobile for quite some time
so you didn't just get a t-mobile version by chance but you are lucky that you weren't planning on using it on at&t because you wouldn't have been able to get 3g
*I know that at&t is not actually selling the nexus s but there is a version with at&t bands in canada
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I'm not sure what your suggesting because, again, I bought my phone on release day off the Google site....without having a contract to either company.
I got the phone and subscribed to T-Mobile after a few days of having it, I had no prior company before (well I had MetroPCS).
So your basically suggesting that I got completely lucky that I received a T-Mobile version? I'm not exactly sure that's the case. Unless strictly T-Mobile was the only company supporting it on release, which I don't recall to be totally honest.
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Yes, you were lucky you were on T-Mobile. Because there was only the T-Mobile version at that time.
And you seem to think that a phone working on one type of 3G and not another has something to do with signing contracts. That is not the case. The more bands a phone supports, the harder it is to get good antenna. Basically a phone has to be designed for a small subset of all possible frequencies. That's why there were two versions of the Nexus One. One for the AT&T frequencies, and one for the T-Mobile frequencies.
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Yes, you were lucky you were on T-Mobile. Because there was only the T-Mobile version at that time.
And you seem to think that a phone working on one type of 3G and not another has something to do with signing contracts. That is not the case. The more bands a phone supports, the harder it is to get good antenna. Basically a phone has to be designed for a small subset of all possible frequencies. That's why there were two versions of the Nexus One. One for the AT&T frequencies, and one for the T-Mobile frequencies.
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No, I understand the difference between frequencies and such. I wasn't saying just because there was no contract it works on both...I was just saying that because I thought (which was corrected and it was only released on T-Mobile at first) it was sold for both initially and I never selected one it must have ran both frequencies. Again, that was my incorrect assumption. I didn't realize it was initially released by T-Mobile exclusively.
Just saw Sprint added "Spark" coverage in Austin. http://newsroom.sprint.com/news-rel...up-to-60-mbps-now-available-in-11-markets.htm
Has anyone here connected to it?
I've enabled my Nexus 5 as described here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2530061.
Haven't seen any difference at all. Anyone know how to tell if you are connected?
The coverage map looks pretty damn good in Austin for Spark. http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?ECID=vanity:coverage
I've been waiting almost 4 years for Sprint 4G. First it was WiMax, then LTE and now SPARC. I'm still stuck in the dark ages with 200 kbs downloads. Maybe by the time I get something better, you guys will be on 6G or 7G technology......but I'm not bitter. :/
also in austin and have tried every combination of band/priority and no difference.
hopefully soon as sprint speeds here are simply a joke
erikivy said:
I've been waiting almost 4 years for Sprint 4G. First it was WiMax, then LTE and now SPARC. I'm still stuck in the dark ages with 200 kbs downloads. Maybe by the time I get something better, you guys will be on 6G or 7G technology......but I'm not bitter. :/
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+1 for this. I live in a metro area of about a quarter million people (not huge, but not tiny either), and we most likely won't have Sprint LTE until 2018 because our service is provided by an affiliate that owns the infrastructure and is in no hurry to spend any cash to update their backhaul. Spark would be awesome, but usable 3g would also be nice. My account has 5 lines with different contract expiration dates, so switching to another carrier would be way too expensive to even consider right now (unless T-Mobile had decent coverage here, but that's another discussion entirely).
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+1 for this. I live in a metro area of about a quarter million people (not huge, but not tiny either), and we most likely won't have Sprint LTE until 2018 because our service is provided by an affiliate that owns the infrastructure and is in no hurry to spend any cash to update their backhaul. Spark would be awesome, but usable 3g would also be nice. My account has 5 lines with different contract expiration dates, so switching to another carrier would be way too expensive to even consider right now (unless T-Mobile had decent coverage here, but that's another discussion entirely).
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Wow, same exact situation here. I live in a bustling college town with an area population of about 150,000. Sprint service is provided by a janky little network called nTelos and there is no way of knowing when they will ever step into this century. My little company only has 3 lines, but we face the same dilemma. I went so far as to grab a prepaid Tmobile SIM to experiment with, but it was 1X everywhere I tried. I didn't think it was possible to have worse service than Sprint, but TMobile (at least in this area) is pitiful compared to Sprint.
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Just an FYI the Nexus 5 needs an update to make use of spark. Even with all the bands enabled it will only connect to band 25.
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anfjc06 said:
Just an FYI the Nexus 5 needs an update to make use of spark. Even with all the bands enabled it will only connect to band 25.
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I spent over 45 minutes on the phone with Sprint today trying to find out what:crying: I need to do to get the update. They finally told me "No, it won't work on that phone." WTF!
9878 said:
I spent over 45 minutes on the phone with Sprint today trying to find out what:crying: I need to do to get the update. They finally told me "No, it won't work on that phone." WTF!
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Google will release a n5 firmware update this quarter we have been told, you have no control over this.
In the past it seemed Sprint's objective was to be bought out by another carrier so they tried to expand in under served areas. Now there's rumors of Sprint's new owners wanting to buy out T-mobile.
I connected to band 41 on my nexus for about an hour once then I mucked with the settings and never got it back.
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In the past it seemed Sprint's objective was to be bought out by another carrier so they tried to expand in under served areas. Now there's rumors of Sprint's new owners wanting to buy out T-mobile.
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That will NEVER happen.
I'm in the Detroit metro with unofficial LTE. I got LTE on my gnex most everywhere. Different story on this device with the tri band. I can force LTE, but then I can't get texts or phone calls. I did however go a about fifteen miles north last week and LTE was working automatically. I am optimistic it should be working here soon also.
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Spark in Dallas
I'm in the Dallas area and have enabled all 3 bands for LTE but don't see anything other than band 25 on my N5. I've changed the priority and all that jazz but nothing changes.
Major disappointment as I got this phone for the tri-band service that was supposed to be so awesome.
I really hope the firmware update this quarter is a real thing and I hope they hurry up with it. Tired of the terrible reception and LTE speeds in and around Dallas. My wife has the S4 and she gets better LTE coverage and speeds than my N5.
I'm in Houston and we have spark here.
As for the N5 no go with all three bands enabled.
I did however get atxt from sprint that says "Over the next month the new network will be largely completed in your area making it better than ever! http://sprint.us/network1 Replay S to stop"
Hit that link and no real info.
Also we have found that the update for the N5 will enable the two extra bands and a new APN. Still trying to get the APN from the Flex since it will be rolling out with Spark enabled. I think that is all we will need but don't quote me on that.
The Nexus 5 and LG G2 are going to get their Spark Updates sometime in the future, hopefully soon.
If you really wanted to take advantage of Spark ASAP, you should have gotten a Samsung Galaxy S 4 Mini, Samsung Galaxy Mega 6.3, HTC One Max, or the new model of the Samsung Galaxy S 4 (Model number: SPH-L720T).
For the Nexus and LG G2, I read somewhere that LG was having problems with getting Triband LTE to work properly, but the G2 is supposedly getting their update by the end of this month. That should be a good sign that our Spark update is on the way as well, though the Nexus update needs to be pushed by Google.
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9878 said:
I spent over 45 minutes on the phone with Sprint today trying to find out what:crying: I need to do to get the update. They finally told me "No, it won't work on that phone." WTF!
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Lol... Just like every other single phone in the world out there... You can't get an update that doesn't exist yet.
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The Nexus 5 and LG G2 are going to get their Spark Updates sometime in the future, hopefully soon.
If you really wanted to take advantage of Spark ASAP, you should have gotten a Samsung Galaxy S 4 Mini, Samsung Galaxy Mega 6.3, HTC One Max, or the new model of the Samsung Galaxy S 4 (Model number: SPH-L720T).
For the Nexus and LG G2, I read somewhere that LG was having problems with getting Triband LTE to work properly, but the G2 is supposedly getting their update by the end of this month. That should be a good sign that our Spark update is on the way as well, though the Nexus update needs to be pushed by Google.
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Lol... Just like every other single phone in the world out there... You can't get an update that doesn't exist yet.
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And what do you know... The LG G2 Spark update is OTA ready right now!
LG G2 Updates
The Nexus 5 shouldn't be too far behind, but again, it's up to LG and Google.
metayoshi said:
And what do you know... The LG G2 Spark update is OTA ready right now!
LG G2 Updates
The Nexus 5 shouldn't be too far behind, but again, it's up to LG and Google.
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Yep just seen that! Now where is ours so the devs can get to work on that stupid icon!
Finally got some band 41. Kramer/metric area
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fwiw.....
Band priority 41,25,26
a reboot always loses connection to band 41. Update prl always gets it back for me.....even though the prl version stays the same per the phone status
Can you guys tell me the pros of moving to t-mobile vs sticking with verizon? My main motivation is the fact that Verizon keeps selling locked bootloader phones so I can't ever mod them. Seriously frustrating. Is it true that all of t-mobiles phones are unlockable or already come unlocked? Also what are the average LTE speeds you guys see when doing speed tests on the tmobile network?
Thanks.
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Can you guys tell me the pros of moving to t-mobile vs sticking with verizon? My main motivation is the fact that Verizon keeps selling locked bootloader phones so I can't ever mod them. Seriously frustrating. Is it true that all of t-mobiles phones are unlockable or already come unlocked? Also what are the average LTE speeds you guys see when doing speed tests on the tmobile network?
Thanks.
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I have been on tmobile for years. The Samsung galaxy series has been easy to root and mod. If you live in a rural are the coverage can be spotty. They do have tbe wifi calling though as well so that is an added plus. Speeds work fine for me normal use.
cwhiatt said:
I have been on tmobile for years. The Samsung galaxy series has been easy to root and mod. If you live in a rural are the coverage can be spotty. They do have tbe wifi calling though as well so that is an added plus. Speeds work fine for me normal use.
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Any chance you could run a speedtest.net app and tell me the results? I know it wont be the same in all areas but it's nice to see what they are capable of.
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Any chance you could run a speedtest.net app and tell me the results? I know it wont be the same in all areas but it's nice to see what they are capable of.
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I can give it a go tomorrow when I am out and about.
I switched to T-Mobile last year I used to have Verizon and the speed and service was great but they didn't offer unlimited data and that is what I wanted so I switched but in my area they need more antennas because it gets to congested at times to the point that data isn't working and my average speed is 15 mb
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I can give it a go tomorrow when I am out and about.
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No service at the house? haha. That's not looking good for T-Mobile
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Can you guys tell me the pros of moving to t-mobile vs sticking with verizon? My main motivation is the fact that Verizon keeps selling locked bootloader phones so I can't ever mod them. Seriously frustrating. Is it true that all of t-mobiles phones are unlockable or already come unlocked? Also what are the average LTE speeds you guys see when doing speed tests on the tmobile network?
Thanks.
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I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile myself, and am totally glad I did.
Pros:
- cheaper
- offers an unlimited data plan, free international 3G data and texting (invaluable service when you travel; I've taken advantage of this too many times), many music/video streaming services don't count against your data bucket (if you don't have unlimited)
- no contracts
- the Jump/upgrade program is pretty good if you switch phones regularly
- phones can be unlocked at anytime, as long as you have paid off your phone
Cons
- I travel quite a bit, and have found that their coverage isn't consistent in rural areas (urban cities are mostly fine though)
- S6 still hasn't received the Marshmallow update (though with Verizon updates took just as long), so software updates are slow
- speeds are not as fast as Verizon, I usually average 10% slower than when I was on Verizon (personally it doesn't feel significantly slower to be annoying)
Switched couple months ago and couldn't be happier. For what I was paying verizon for a locked phone for myself I get two unlocked phones for myself and the little lady with tmobile. with binge on and free streaming music I barely have any other data use 2.1gig last month. my average for the music alone is 8gig and that doesn't count anymore . And i get better signal at home ! Verizon unusable in my house tmobile is better plus can use wifi calling so now thinking can finally drop landline.
Switch as quickly as you can and don't look back
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No service at the house? haha. That's not looking good for T-Mobile
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I live in a brick and stucko house. No one gets great service in the house regardless of provider.
T-Mobile's service is much better with a band 12 phone, like the S6. I was amazed by the significant reception improvement over my S4 (non-band 12). Even T-Mobile's old band 4 LTE signal is much better on the S6. I work in the center of an office building (1950's building with brick, stucko, and asbestos ) and I get amazing LTE reception with my S6, whereas my S4 got no reception.
Stick with Verizon if you travel a lot or are in rural areas. I live near Los Angeles, so reception is not a problem.
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Can you guys tell me the pros of moving to t-mobile vs sticking with verizon? My main motivation is the fact that Verizon keeps selling locked bootloader phones so I can't ever mod them. Seriously frustrating. Is it true that all of t-mobiles phones are unlockable or already come unlocked? Also what are the average LTE speeds you guys see when doing speed tests on the tmobile network?
Thanks.
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T-Mobile's connection and speeds aren't always reliable. I think Verizon is way better and you should stick with them if you had the money because I know I would. I'm going to go stock anyways because I want MM (no roms for that on S6 T-mo yet) and Samsung pay. Plus, some roms have apps that work a little differently (not a deal breaker, but annoying for me) and I cannot pickup calls sometimes (deal breaker, very frustrating).
I absolutely love tmobile. I like what the company is doing and most importantly there customer service. At one point a better service plan came out that was cheaper but still all of the same features... and they had zero issues switching it over. What company does that? Most will say its only avaliable to new customers.. not tmobile. Yes service can be limited in some area but they are still in the middle of switching off old 2g and replacing it with LTE. Major improvements in the past 6months. That all said no other carrier can match tmobile speeds at my home or work.
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If you travel a ton... stick with Verizon or wait another year.
I should add the new s7 has locked bootloader on tmobile so mods are limited... Aka no root yet.
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So here's my question. I'm considering the OnePlus 3T. I ordered the OnePlus 3 from Amazon to give it a test drive (and have since returned it). I noticed that most of the I was getting H speed on ATT.
Every other phone I've got (Moto X Pure) and Axon 7 (as well as my prior Nexus 6p) was regularly getting 4G or LTE in the same locations.
I'm assuming it's reasonable to assume this is a OnePlus issue.
Has anyone who has the 3T (or considering it) has a similar problem? Thanks.
I assume you're in the US? You might've gotten a phone built for another market, such as China. Also, your APN settings might've been wrong... I'm getting mostly 4G/4G+ on my 3T, which I believe is LTE on OxygenOS. I may swing by my local AT&T store to verify my SIM is a-okay.
Most of the resellers on Amazon/eBay buy devices from the Chinese market which, for the most part, have bands that are unsupported by US carriers. If you buy the correct model for the US, you should get good signal on ATT.
s-hfarooq said:
Most of the resellers on Amazon/eBay buy devices from the Chinese market which, for the most part, have bands that are unsupported by US carriers. If you buy the correct model for the US, you should get good signal on ATT.
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False. Read the T-Mobile LTE thread. The issue is software based. It's affecting everyone.
I'm having no false read issues here in Seattle Region on T-Mobile. I also had someone attempt an AT&T SIM as well, no problems. It may have something to do with the "General Fixes" mentioned for 3.5.3.
I've got my OP3T on AT&T and on OxygenOS, it never shows an LTE icon. However, using LTE Discovery, it states I'm on LTE. I even get LTE B30 (2300 WCS) at work while my OP2 could barely keep a cellular connection. B30 is an LTE band that AT&T rolled out a year ago. Only a handful of phones support it, including the OP3 and OP3T.
EDIT: I'm seeing performance equal to or better than my previous phone.
Most importantly I don't have a good baseline to compare to so take this as an extra small grain of salt.
I thought things were fine but upon further investigation my speeds will not keep steady over 10mbs down. I haven't tried changing the apn or anything to correct it yet but according based on others I'm thinking it's software related and can hopefully be sorted out. I'm not giving up on it, for the cost, features, and quality of everything else I'm going to try some things.
I should mention I'm not in a city and my particular area hasn't always had the best speeds.
Using OP3T on AT&T
Never owning a OPO device I wondered about this too when I got my OP3T. I didn't know if this device had to show LTE to get LTE.
I didn't have any issues with data speeds but after reading about other people questioning this on the forums I decided to look into it. I downloaded an app and it showed my device was getting LTE even though it didn't say it up top (it shows 4G). I forgot what band it said I was getting. I didn't call AT&T at any time either.
*The speed test is from indoors and I wouldn't be surprised if I can get way better speeds out and about.
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False. Read the T-Mobile LTE thread. The issue is software based. It's affecting everyone.
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That thread refers to an issue that has been determined to be T-Mobile specific, likely to do with carrier aggregation and/or band 12 exclusively. AT&T does not use band 12, and CA works perfectly on AT&T including, as another poster mentioned below, band 30 which only is supported on a few phones.
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I've got my OP3T on AT&T and on OxygenOS, it never shows an LTE icon. However, using LTE Discovery, it states I'm on LTE. I even get LTE B30 (2300 WCS) at work while my OP2 could barely keep a cellular connection. B30 is an LTE band that AT&T rolled out a year ago. Only a handful of phones support it, including the OP3 and OP3T.
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The current version of OOS on the 3T doesn't use the "LTE" label, it uses 4G to denote LTE, and 4G+ for LTE CA.
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False. Read the T-Mobile LTE thread. The issue is software based. It's affecting everyone.
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If you read the T-Mobile threads (one here and one on OnePlus forum) , then you'll see that the T-Mobile issue is only a T-Mobile issue. I'm in that thread just to double-check that the fix they made for the T-Mobile problem didn't screw up anything on other carriers and it didn't. It's not affecting everyone, but it was affecting some T-Mobile users, not ATT.
Also, a lot of people seem more upset by symbology (which icon LTE, 4G, 4G+, etc) is used than their actual speeds. I'm not seeing what difference that makes unless you'd rather have a certain icon than speed. No doubt that's a simple fix or even an xposed type of fix.
Oh yeah: I should've also mentioned that I'm an att 3t user with LTE speeds about double that of my prior phone, a galaxy (a current one). I'm in a fringe area but getting ~20Mbps down, 5-15 up. My "icon" constantly is switching from 4g to 4g+.
hachamacha said:
If you read the T-Mobile threads (one here and one on OnePlus forum) , then you'll see that the T-Mobile issue is only a T-Mobile issue. I'm in that thread just to double-check that the fix they made for the T-Mobile problem didn't screw up anything on other carriers and it didn't. It's not affecting everyone, but it was affecting some T-Mobile users, not ATT.
Also, a lot of people seem more upset by symbology (which icon LTE, 4G, 4G+, etc) is used than their actual speeds. I'm not seeing what difference that makes unless you'd rather have a certain icon than speed. No doubt that's a simple fix or even an xposed type of fix.
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charlieb620 said:
False. Read the T-Mobile LTE thread. The issue is software based. It's affecting everyone.
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Huh? It's not affecting ATT users in the USA.
I can confirm it is affecting AT&T users as well - there have been many reported instances on this site, on the OnePlus forums, on Reddit, and on other sites of not being able to get LTE on AT&T. Last week, I chatted with AT&T tech support and they told me the issue is on their end with the network. They need to add the IMEI ranges for our OP3Ts to their database. They told me that they should have the problem fixed by December 5th (today); so far it doesn't seem fixed yet but I'm going to keep waiting another day or two before I contact them again.
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I can confirm it is affecting AT&T users as well - there have been many reported instances on this site, on the OnePlus forums, on Reddit, and on other sites of not being able to get LTE on AT&T. Last week, I chatted with AT&T tech support and they told me the issue is on their end with the network. They need to add the IMEI ranges for our OP3Ts to their database. They told me that they should have the problem fixed by December 5th (today); so far it doesn't seem fixed yet but I'm going to keep waiting another day or two before I contact them again.
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Let me know how it goes if you decide to contact them again. I'm getting good speeds at 4G, but not quite what LTE on AT&T offer.
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I can confirm it is affecting AT&T users as well - there have been many reported instances on this site, on the OnePlus forums, on Reddit, and on other sites of not being able to get LTE on AT&T. Last week, I chatted with AT&T tech support and they told me the issue is on their end with the network. They need to add the IMEI ranges for our OP3Ts to their database. They told me that they should have the problem fixed by December 5th (today); so far it doesn't seem fixed yet but I'm going to keep waiting another day or two before I contact them again.
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Yes, but you can actually reply in complete sentences so I have to take you more seriously . ;
I somehow managed to post that before I'd really typed anything (which might have been a good idea damnit!). Anyway: I think that some of us (almost regardless of carrier) have just popped in our known good SIM cards and then had trouble free service , and fast speeds. It's possible that if I had went over to ATT and gotten a new SIM, that I'd be in some hellhole range of people that are having problems, but isn't that a carrier based problem?
Anyway, thanks.
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... but isn't that a carrier based problem?
Anyway, thanks.
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Exactly. There are two different issues. The T-Mobile band 12/CA issue, which OnePlus is addressing via a software update of some sort, and the AT&T provisioning issue, which AT&T needs to address. Consensus is that if you use an already LTE provisioned SIM card you'll be fine; if you need a new SIM card and give them your OnePlus IMEI, you will not be provisioned with LTE. This is the same issue that the original OnePlus (and many other non AT&T unlocked phones) had, there is a very lengthy thread on this subject over at the OP3 forum.
Also, with regards to 4G not getting LTE speeds...the "4G" and "4G+" icons on 3.5.3 on the 3T are LTE.
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Yes, but you can actually reply in complete sentences so I have to take you more seriously . ;
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There's a reason I'm majoring in journalism
skunkiechris said:
Exactly. There are two different issues. The T-Mobile band 12/CA issue, which OnePlus is addressing via a software update of some sort, and the AT&T provisioning issue, which AT&T needs to address. Consensus is that if you use an already LTE provisioned SIM card you'll be fine; if you need a new SIM card and give them your OnePlus IMEI, you will not be provisioned with LTE. This is the same issue that the original OnePlus (and many other non AT&T unlocked phones) had, there is a very lengthy thread on this subject over at the OP3 forum.
Also, with regards to 4G not getting LTE speeds...the "4G" and "4G+" icons on 3.5.3 on the 3T are LTE.
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Correct, my old phone had a micro sim card so I had to go to the AT&T store to get the newer nano sim for my 3T. The rep who helped me probably inadvertently messed something up lol.
skunkiechris said:
Exactly. There are two different issues. The T-Mobile band 12/CA issue, which OnePlus is addressing via a software update of some sort, and the AT&T provisioning issue, which AT&T needs to address. Consensus is that if you use an already LTE provisioned SIM card you'll be fine; if you need a new SIM card and give them your OnePlus IMEI, you will not be provisioned with LTE. This is the same issue that the original OnePlus (and many other non AT&T unlocked phones) had, there is a very lengthy thread on this subject over at the OP3 forum.
Also, with regards to 4G not getting LTE speeds...the "4G" and "4G+" icons on 3.5.3 on the 3T are LTE.
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There's a reason I'm majoring in journalism
Correct, my old phone had a micro sim card so I had to go to the AT&T store to get the newer nano sim for my 3T. The rep who helped me probably inadvertently messed something up lol.
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i second this. i too had to change my sim card from micro to nano and after that is where i lost my LTE i believe. On att i only get H speeds, though i am a bit bothered for lack of highspeeds the reception service on my OP3T is excellent, i almost always have near full bars.
I read somewhere that after the 5th (today) ATT will correct some of the provisions for the OP3T, so im waiting till tomorrow to call them again to complain about the issue, if it doesn't correct itself.
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I read somewhere that after the 5th (today) ATT will correct some of the provisions for the OP3T, so im waiting till tomorrow to call them again to complain about the issue, if it doesn't correct itself.
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I know, I keep checking to see if it's fixed or not. Do you know if we have to restart our phones to see if they fixed it?
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I know, I keep checking to see if it's fixed or not. Do you know if we have to restart our phones to see if they fixed it?
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maybe read that hard reset will be needed but i am unsure. and cannot confirm, myself.
Got a phone call from T-Mobile saying that the Pixel 4XL I activated last year will not work when T-Mobile repurposes Sprint's 4G bands. I can't believe this: this is a carrier-unlocked phone I got on eBay; I would have been able to activate it on T-Mobile just as well as I did on Sprint. The guy from T-Mobile swore that the phone will not work when they do the cutover. Is this really true?
I also have a Samsung Galaxy Tab A tablet that the T-Mobile guy says will work fine after the switch if I just swap the SIM for a T-Mobile one; he said this was possible because the tablet does not need to do VoLTE. Could a SIM swap let me continue using my Pixel?
I really like this phone. I've seen people complain about the phone's big forehead. For me, that's a non-issue. I love Soli's ability to wake up the display when it detects motion. I'd like to hold off on another round of researching what phone has features I want--features which include the ability to unlock the boot loader. I'm in no hurry to get 5G.
Hi!
I wrote a post on how to get any SIM work with any Pixel, independent of the carrier.
I am still looking on how to unlock the bootloader.
I think I am close to get it working, however I need to test my theory yet. Here is a thread of a guy that has a similar issue, and I told him how to use SIM on his Pixel and shared my progress about unlocking the bootloader on this kind of devices.
Hope this helps you!
I moved my (unlocked, purchased from Google) 4XL from Sprint to TMo, and have heard nothing from TMo. One of the reasons I bought the 4XL was because it had coverage of all of the TMo bands (at the time). I think you're getting bad info. I think the guy at the store needs to sell more phones to make his quota.
On the TMo web site, go to the 'bring your own phone' page under Phones&Devices. Enter the IMEI and it will tell you what you need to know. This is what mine said:
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That was a nice suggestion to try the bring-your-own-device page. I got those same happy fully-compatible/not-blocked messages as @batteryguy got when I entered my IEMI. The woman at the T-Mobile store told me that she was surprised to see that result since the indication she had from her tools was that the phone would not be compatible.
Ah, but I got some insight when I asked about getting a T-Mobile SIM for the tablet. She said that the tablet also wasn't set to come over now to T-Mobile (as the guy on the phone had told me), but left it open that the transition would come later.
Soo--from what I can gather, everyone now on Sprint will be transferred fully to T-Mobile in the next months. When that happens, it looks like we can bring our compatible devices fully into happy land.
If I can make that transition without picking up T-Mobile's bloatware, that will be a big win.
We made the move from Sprint to TMo 6-8 months ago. Even though my wife is a Sprint retiree and got a special rate on Sprint, we ended up paying less on TMo than we were paying for Sprint. It's great paying a flat $35/month for unlimited everything, without all the added fees Sprint added on top of your plan. Plus, when we go overseas, we can buy a cheap SIM and pop it into my 4XL. Don't let TMo sell you a SIM, ask them to activate the internal eSIM and it will leave the SIM slot open.
Coverage is MUCH better, both in town and on the road. She got a 5G phone (Sansung A71 5G) for 'free', and it's a nice phone. Unfortunately, 5G has been worthless for her so far. It's seldom faster than 4G, and often slower.
There is no bloatware unless you want it and install it yourself. TMo has the usual account management apps plus the T-Mobile Tuesday app. I'm sure there are others, but I've not needed any of them.
I wouldn't wait. Go ahead and make the move now.
We have also been getting these notices from Sprint. Unfortunately, my mom dead dropped her phone this week. She went to the store (*parents) to activate her Note and was denied, told she will have to "upgrade." They're already not activating anything not 5g capable.
But my xt1766 is gsm/cdma/4g so if true, and it stops working in March of 2022 they are in fact going to lose a huge market of consumers.
I will just find a new carrier. I love my old phone and have no issues whatsoever with it. I don't care that they're offering some low level credits for a new model. $200 and below it seems. These new products are glitchy, break easily, and most importantly the mining and production is still destroying the environment. I shouldn't have to replace a new phone, screen protector, case, cord etc just because these 3 companies have monopoly in this dumb reality. This is a prime example of how broken the capitalist system is. Sprint/T-Mobile can suck it.
Anyone know who will take my money? I'm off to continue imei checking...