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Is T-Mo Note 4 best option for AT&T if you want root?

So the AT&T Note 4 is locked down pretty good. Is the T-Mobile version the best version to get to use on AT&T for somebody who wants root? It looks like it has all of the HSPA and LTE bands, so it should work perfectly. Are any of the international versions better options than the T-Mobile version?
Or is T-Mobile the best one for AT&T? Thanks.

Tmo note 4 works great on AT&T. I buy all my phones from Tmo to use on AT&T.

chrispyutec said:
Tmo note 4 works great on AT&T. I buy all my phones from Tmo to use on AT&T.
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How do you buy them? Can you just walk into a T-Mobile store and buy one even with no T-Mobile account?
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I bought the phone. It was a bit of a process but easy. You have to have a service plan for them to sell you one. So I signed up for the phone and the cheapest plan they would get me. Then went home and called Tmobile customer care and paid the balance of the phone off. Then went to cellunlocker and got an unlock code. Then for the next day or so I used it on AT&T to make sure it had no problems. Then I called up Tmobile and canceled my plan with them.
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I have both AT&T and t mobile note 4. If you want root, you already know what you have to do. The only issue I have ran into is my t mobile version shows up as a blackberry on AT&T network. Took multiple calls to get LTE working correctly. They had to switch my number to a tri band (there verbage not mine) to properly get LTE, even though it still shows up as a RIM device. The fastest LTE I've had in my area is 32mbs with a iPhone next to me getting 64mbs, but also that's not comparing apples to apples (pun intended). But the iPhone also had a stronger radio inside compared to samsung.

sandman7793 said:
I have both AT&T and t mobile note 4. If you want root, you already know what you have to do. The only issue I have ran into is my t mobile version shows up as a blackberry on AT&T network. Took multiple calls to get LTE working correctly. They had to switch my number to a tri band (there verbage not mine) to properly get LTE, even though it still shows up as a RIM device. The fastest LTE I've had in my area is 32mbs with a iPhone next to me getting 64mbs, but also that's not comparing apples to apples (pun intended). But the iPhone also had a stronger radio inside compared to samsung.
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Hey Sandman7793, if you dont mind, could you please explain how exactly you got AT&T to make the changes in order for you to get LTE working on your Tmobile Note 4? I mean did you have to speak to multiple reps on the same phone call? Reason I ask is becuase I had a Tmobile Note 3 and was only getting HSPA using AT&T and when I called they gave me a hard time saying that I couldnt get LTE becuase I was using an unlocked device. Any help would be appreciated, Thanks!

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Hey Sandman7793, if you dont mind, could you please explain how exactly you got AT&T to make the changes in order for you to get LTE working on your Tmobile Note 4? I mean did you have to speak to multiple reps on the same phone call? Reason I ask is becuase I had a Tmobile Note 3 and was only getting HSPA using AT&T and when I called they gave me a hard time saying that I couldnt get LTE becuase I was using an unlocked device. Any help would be appreciated, Thanks!
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Well the trick was I bought the AT&T version of the note 4 before I bought the t-mobile one. So when I called I had my sim card in the AT&T one when I called. Lol. I have my spare note 4 in the drawer just lying around. When I called they was like, do you have a blackberry, I said no, do people actually use those anymore. Since I have my note on the next program they was like OK no problem. Then they said, is your phone for AT&T network, I said it better be because I bought it from you. Then I rebooted the phone so they could hear the AT&T boot up sound. They had me put in a new APN setting, still no LTE (on the AT&T phone at that) so they escalated the case over to someone else and changed a bunch of settings on there end. Then said maybe they had LTE issues in my area, I said nope I have a iPhone sitting next to me with full LTE. By the time I hung up, the AT&T note 4 had zero LTE and the t-mobile had full LTE, which still till this day I have no clue how that worked out. It still shows a blackberry on my account, but here was my speed earlier so it don't matter to me what the show.
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sandman7793 said:
Well the trick was I bought the AT&T version of the note 4 before I bought the t-mobile one. So when I called I had my sim card in the AT&T one when I called. Lol. I have my spare note 4 in the drawer just lying around. When I called they was like, do you have a blackberry, I said no, do people actually use those anymore. Since I have my note on the next program they was like OK no problem. Then they said, is your phone for AT&T network, I said it better be because I bought it from you. Then I rebooted the phone so they could hear the AT&T boot up sound. They had me put in a new APN setting, still no LTE (on the AT&T phone at that) so they escalated the case over to someone else and changed a bunch of settings on there end. Then said maybe they had LTE issues in my area, I said nope I have a iPhone sitting next to me with full LTE. By the time I hung up, the AT&T note 4 had zero LTE and the t-mobile had full LTE, which still till this day I have no clue how that worked out. It still shows a blackberry on my account, but here was my speed earlier so it don't matter to me what the show.
Did you have a chance to test speeds in your area with both phones connected to both carriers? I am going through a dilemma right now as to which carrier I should choose to go with.
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Actually no. TMO stays on the edge network where I live. It's not even worth the hassle to use there network, at lest for me. But for the sake of argument I will grab it out of drawer tonight and do the rest after I get off work.

sandman7793 said:
Actually no. TMO stays on the edge network where I live. It's not even worth the hassle to use there network, at lest for me. But for the sake of argument I will grab it out of drawer tonight and do the rest after I get off work.
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ok fair enough. I am seeing hits and misses with speedtests on both. Hard to decide right now.

i"m using the T-Mobile Note 4 on AT&T and getting great performance. NO issues with anything, yet lol. Love running custom roms.

yes it is, Mine is on Tmobile( white) unlocked and it is rooted and i'm using it on ATT(sim card from work) i get full speed LTE and one of samsung best yet. other variants are not that great

T-Mobile Note 4 still shows as Blackberry
TheUndertaker21 said:
yes it is, Mine is on Tmobile( white) unlocked and it is rooted and i'm using it on ATT(sim card from work) i get full speed LTE and one of samsung best yet. other variants are not that great
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I went to change my data plan today, finally giving up Unlimited because it was $50 cheaper to go Mobile Share route. In the process I noticed my new TM Note 4 showed up as a Blackberry 7100 and during the online plan change it wouldn't let me do it saying something about an incompatible phone. I reloaded the Sim back in my Note 2, called CS, had then change the plan and of course it now shows a "Smartphone" for my Note 2.
So, I suppose as soon as I change me SIM back to the Note 4 it'll send them the IMEI and change the phone designation back to Blackberry, thusly kicking me off LTE.
Can other enlighten me as what steps to take when/if that happens? Since it's a Note 2, not Note 4, I can't take the approach quite the same as the OP.
What to do? Anyone?

TheFletch said:
I went to change my data plan today, finally giving up Unlimited because it was $50 cheaper to go Mobile Share route. In the process I noticed my new TM Note 4 showed up as a Blackberry 7100 and during the online plan change it wouldn't let me do it saying something about an incompatible phone. I reloaded the Sim back in my Note 2, called CS, had then change the plan and of course it now shows a "Smartphone" for my Note 2.
So, I suppose as soon as I change me SIM back to the Note 4 it'll send them the IMEI and change the phone designation back to Blackberry, thusly kicking me off LTE.
Can other enlighten me as what steps to take when/if that happens? Since it's a Note 2, not Note 4, I can't take the approach quite the same as the OP.
What to do? Anyone?
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Mine shows as a blackberry also, but after they activated tri-band on my account for my line, all is good with full service.

AT&T used to have two places to store imei. One is dynamic and shows device that is currently on their network and the other is somewhere permanently in the database and is imei used to register account. Second (permanent) one determines whether you get LTE. It was like that year ago when I parted with post paid plans. May be they changed it since. So you must make them replace the permanent db imei to get LTE. Best way to do it is to call them with valid AT&T LTE capable device imei and tell them that it's what you use now.
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My AT&T account shows a flip phone for my TMO Note 4! LOL! Everything is fine and working though so I dont care.

I run my T-Mobile Note 4 on "Cricket Wireless" which uses AT&T towers w/ a reduced cost (based on your needs of course).. Data, ect...
Very pleased & things work 100%!
I even figured out how to 'edit' build.prop per the "Root & Recovery" thread to give me official "cricket" initial confirmation readout in status upon waking phone along with AT&T tower indicators as opposed to T-Mobile's!

I bet Hotspot will not work on ATT when you use T-mobile phone.
I bet Wifi calling will not work on ATT network too.

chong67 said:
I bet Hotspot will not work on ATT when you use T-mobile phone.
I bet Wifi calling will not work on ATT network too.
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Hotspot works great. Actually It works even better, becuase ATT can't track the usage on a Tmobile phone so even without root or doing anything special the wifi hotspot works right out of the box.
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Signal..... No signal

My phone keeps on jumping back and forth. At places where I would normally get full strength with other phones. I get little to no signal. Whats wrong?? I'm on T-Mobile.
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Experiencing same thing, brand new T-Mo N6.....subd for more info

Same thing is happening to me. I've tested my phone on both T-Mobile and Verizon; same thing happens. I'm getting similar signal strength to a MotoX (2nd gen) on Verizon as well. However, in my battery stats, it's a blood bath. I have only gotten it to go green for a slither of that.

Seems typical for a Nexus. Nexus 5 did/does the same thing and it was never fixed.

I'm having the same issue but on ATT.

Exact same issue. I'm on Verizon. I was just thinking of posting the same thing, so thanks for jumping on this.
What's weird is that my N6 will show good signal in my room, but often times when I try to call someone, I hear no ringing and the call does not connect. A minute later, it will show that I have no signal.
I ran into another similar issue at the mall the other day. It was showing that I had good signal (LTE), but try as I might I couldn't get any webpages to load. Initially I thought it might have something to do with how many people were at the mall (this was on Black Friday), but I borrowed my dad's Moto X (also on Verizon) and had no problems loading webpages instantly. At this point, not sure if I have a defective unit, or do all N6 have this issue.

My second n6 first one had this issue and T-Mobile did trouble shooting the told me to exchange it. Second one not much better. Right now have no signal and have to switch it to 2g for calls WiFi for data.

I wonder if this has anything to do with the initial setup. When I receive my Nexus 6 on Thursday I'm going to put my existing Verizon Sim card in before even booting the phone up for the first time. Not sure if it makes any difference here..... Our if any of you have tried a factory reset?
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Same type of thing on Sprint. Sometimes after a reboot it re activates and takes like 5 Mins. But signal jumps in and out often.

mjs2011 said:
I wonder if this has anything to do with the initial setup. When I receive my Nexus 6 on Thursday I'm going to put my existing Verizon Sim card in before even booting the phone up for the first time. Not sure if it makes any difference here..... Our if any of you have tried a factory reset?
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I have performed a full factory reset (back to stock, flashed stock images, etc.); still doesn't make a difference.

Hmmm.... Well hopefully a software update will fix it. I seem to remember the Nexus 5 getting am update that fixed some Sprint signal issues.
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don't know if this will help, but... when i received my N6 the Cellular Network Setting (Settings->More->Celluar Network->Preferred Network Type) was set to Global and battery stats indicated i had poor signal (and occasionally it was bad.) i changed the setting to LTE (recommended) and signal was better and battery stats showed a good signal (e.g., no more red/orange) throughout the day

cortez.i said:
don't know if this will help, but... when i received my N6 the Cellular Network Setting (Settings->More->Celluar Network->Preferred Network Type) was set to Global and battery stats indicated i had poor signal (and occasionally it was bad.) i changed the setting to LTE (recommended) and signal was better and battery stats showed a good signal (e.g., no more red/orange) throughout the day
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Was just gonna post same thing lol

cortez.i said:
don't know if this will help, but... when i received my N6 the Cellular Network Setting (Settings->More->Celluar Network->Preferred Network Type) was set to Global and battery stats indicated i had poor signal (and occasionally it was bad.) i changed the setting to LTE (recommended) and signal was better and battery stats showed a good signal (e.g., no more red/orange) throughout the day
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I have tried both Global and LTE; neither seem to behave differently on Verizon. I'm actually RMA'ing my N6 in hopes that its hardware.

I just got my N6 from the GPS and activated on Verizon last night. Same thing with the signal going in and out without moving at all. Really odd, never had a phone do this. It shows signal more often, than not, but I am having the same problem....

There are a few threads on this from various carriers. This is the first I've seen people with VZW chiming in. It's definitely something with the N6, and if it's hardware then it needs to be recalled with that many people having this issue. My thoughts are its software. Could be a settings issue too, but I've tried various APNs. Tmo told me to call CS, but since I don't have another phone to call from I'll probably go into a store. They won't fix it though, even a replacement won't. Someone's already tried to work with CS and got a replacement that had the same issue. I also had another N6 from Moto's store that I returned, which had the same issue.

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There are a few threads on this from various carriers. This is the first I've seen people with VZW chiming in. It's definitely something with the N6, and if it's hardware then it needs to be recalled with that many people having this issue. My thoughts are its software. Could be a settings issue too, but I've tried various APNs. Tmo told me to call CS, but since I don't have another phone to call from I'll probably go into a store. They won't fix it though, even a replacement won't. Someone's already tried to work with CS and got a replacement that had the same issue. I also had another N6 from Moto's store that I returned, which had the same issue.
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I'm RMA'ing my N6 from Google. Doubt it will be fixed though.
However, I think it's something on Verizon's end; I feel like it might be related to the N6 not being sold by Verizon yet, and when it is officially sold by Verizon, these issues will lessen. I've seen plenty of people say this phone gets superior reception. I'm positive it's Verizon's fault.

Same issue as everyone else - on T-Mobile. I only have the issue on LTE, though. The ASU bumps up to 99 every few minutes and then drops back down. No such problem on 3G.

natezire71 said:
I'm RMA'ing my N6 from Google. Doubt it will be fixed though.
However, I think it's something on Verizon's end; I feel like it might be related to the N6 not being sold by Verizon yet, and when it is officially sold by Verizon, these issues will lessen. I've seen plenty of people say this phone gets superior reception. I'm positive it's Verizon's fault.
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In an early post you said you tested on VZW and TMO and had the same issue...but you think it's something on VZW end? The only issue I think VZW customers will encounter is voice and data working at the same time, until they update it. The signal issue is happening on all carriers. Maybe not to everyone, but more than enough for there to be an issue that can't be cast at the carriers imo.

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In an early post you said you tested on VZW and TMO and had the same issue...but you think it's something on VZW end? The only issue I think VZW customers will encounter is voice and data working at the same time, until they update it. The signal issue is happening on all carriers. Maybe not to everyone, but more than enough for there to be an issue that can't be cast at the carriers imo.
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I think it's happening more on Verizon. People I've talked to who have this issue tend to be on Verizon.

Verizon SIM Issues

I've had my N6 for a week and a half now; when I ordered it, I requested a Nano SIM from Verizon. It took longer than I expected for the new SIM to arrive, so I decided to just cut down my existing Micro SIM. Did that, installed into the N6, up and running no problem.
The Nano SIM finally showed up, and I swapped it in thinking there'd be no issue. Unfortunately when I start it up, I get a notification to "Sign into network", and when I open that, I receive a screen that says "Cannot Activate Your Device". I talked to VZW on their chat and then on the phone; the tech on the phone was asking for the IMEI which I provided, he said their system did not recognize the number and he'd have to submit a request to have it added to the database, which would take 24-48 hours, and that I could swap in my old SIM in the meantime. No problem, until I switched my old SIM back in and it doesn't work anymore either....
Any suggestions?

Sounds like you were better off keeping them in the dark. I read an article somewhere can't remember where saying that Verizon wouldn't activate any n6 that weren't purchased directly from Verizon. I wouldn't be surprised if that were true.
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colts187 said:
Sounds like you were better off keeping them in the dark. I read an article somewhere can't remember where saying that Verizon wouldn't activate any n6 that weren't purchased directly from Verizon. I wouldn't be surprised if that were true.
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It does seem that way. Mine came from GPS. Told them that when I requested the new SIM and they didn't give me any problems...it was "sure, confirm your address and we'll send it".
The tech I was dealing with genuinely seemed to want to figure out a way to get it to work.
My thought is to try to get my SIM back in a phone that is unquestionably on Verizon's system, but I'll have to find a nano to micro adapter to do that with my wife's phone, for instance.

I was able to find a nano-micro adapter, and reactivate my old SIM in an old Galaxy S3 we had laying around, and swap it into my N6.
LTE data is working, but voice isn't for some reason (when I place a call, it'll ring once and then "Welcome to Verizon Wireless, your call can not be completed as dialed. Please check the number..."
ETA: Voice issues were some kind of glitch with Advanced Calling/VoLTE. I disabled it from my line, reactivated it and went through that whole process again and now it's working.

This post summarizes the VZW issues with the non-VZW N6: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59970721&postcount=121
Read the whole thread if you want details, but it seems clear to me the VZW is breaking FCC regs by only allowing N6's purchased from them on their network.
It does seem you have other issues going on here though. My N6 worked great, it just cost me my $25 "bring your own device" discount when I plugged in my existing SIM.
Please let us know if you succeed in getting your N6 recognized on VZW's network. My request to add mine to their network was denied in about 5 minutes.

Same issue on b2b plan
I'm having the same issue on a B2B plan. I am currently trying to find someone w/ a Verizon android. Seems like there are grounds for a complaint through FCC regulations though, no?

prod1212 said:
I'm having the same issue on a B2B plan. I am currently trying to find someone w/ a Verizon android. Seems like there are grounds for a complaint through FCC regulations though, no?
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This is no longer an issue. Verizon will activate all Nexus 6's now from what I've read.
See the thread below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/fcc-verizon-t3069915

patmw123 said:
This is no longer an issue. Verizon will activate all Nexus 6's now from what I've read.
See the thread below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/fcc-verizon-t3069915
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My mistake! I'm using a N5.

prod1212 said:
My mistake! I'm using a N5.
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The Nexus 5 doesn't have the hardware/radios to run on Verizon and never has just fyi.

patmw123 said:
The Nexus 5 doesn't have the hardware/radios to run on Verizon and never has just fyi.
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I was under the impression that the N5 radio could connect to Band 13 (700MHz)

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I was under the impression that the N5 radio could connect to Band 13 (700MHz)
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Yeah it would need a lot more than just support for LTE band 13 to work on Verizon. The CDMA bands/radios are still 100% necessary - at least for now. In addition to all of the other LTE bands Verizon supports.

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Yeah it would need a lot more than just support for LTE band 13 to work on Verizon. The CDMA bands/radios are still 100% necessary - at least for now. In addition to all of the other LTE bands Verizon supports.
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Yea, I guess I am missing something here. I found that you can't enable Band 13 without rooting and disabling other bands. Shouldn't an unlocked nexus 5 just need access to Band 13 and be registered on Verizon's network in order to use LTE Band 13?
I appreciate all of the answers. I'm a bit new to this whole process, and never understood US network space before today. so thanks

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Yea, I guess I am missing something here. I found that you can't enable Band 13 without rooting and disabling other bands. Shouldn't an unlocked nexus 5 just need access to Band 13 and be registered on Verizon's network in order to use LTE Band 13?
I appreciate all of the answers. I'm a bit new to this whole process, and never understood US network space before today. so thanks
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You might find more support for your quest on the Nexus 5 Q&A forum, here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help

MI5 - Can I Bring It to VZW In The US?

Hi Everyone,
I've been reading the reviews and specs for the MI5 Pro and am considering purchasing one. GSM/CDMA support, 128Gb Storage, etc. sounds great to me.
My plan is to have something with an unlocked BL so I can root, TWRP, and AOSP it just the way I want it.
Before I do how much of a pain will it be to getting working on Verizon's 4G/LTE networks? If I understand what I am reading correctly it supports all the frequency bands on Big Red. Any thoughts? Comments and suggestions are requested on this.
Thanks in Advance

I should also add this is not for the BYOD (Bring Your Own Device) program. I have a monthly plan and am up for a new device but don't want what they offer.

I highly doubt you'll be able to get it to work on Verizon. Even unlocking GSM bands is a pain.
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VZW is CDMA. The specs say it supports all the needed bands I just don't know if they are "active" out of the box.

FernBch said:
VZW is CDMA. The specs say it supports all the needed bands I just don't know if they are "active" out of the box.
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I don't specifically know about verizon, but our local CDMA carriers do work with the Mi5.

Cdma carriers the us only allows approved devices.
No hope.

FernBch said:
VZW is CDMA. The specs say it supports all the needed bands I just don't know if they are "active" out of the box.
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You can be the guniea pig and try it out but your chances of getting it to work on Verizon are slim to none.
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The more I research this the more dim the results look. It seems that the problem with bringing it to a CDMA network is lack of 4G functionality. Definitely a deal breaker for sure......

Verizon only allows approved devices on their network (read: their branded devices). So there's pretty much no chance of your Mi5 (an unapproved, semi-compatible, and untested device as far as they are concerned) getting on the network, as your MEID needs to be in their system for you to connect to their network.
Stick with an actual GSM carrier.

Duwenbasden said:
Verizon only allows approved devices on their network (read: their branded devices). So there's pretty much no chance of your Mi5 (an unapproved, semi-compatible, and untested device as far as they are concerned) getting on the network, as your MEID needs to be in their system for you to connect to their network.
Stick with an actual GSM carrier.
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I knew that was how they were in the past but I thought maybe they loosened up on it. They now have a Bring Your Own Device program. Still doesn't get past getting 4G working flawlessly on CDMA.
I need to look deeper at GSM carriers in the US. Coverage in my area is important for work.

I just saw you message and it is a bit late, but I have the Mi5 and use it on Verizon. It is only 3G on that. I can also use both my Verizon Sim card and my AT&T sim at the same time and have two carriers with two different numbers on the same phone. I had to do nothing to get it to work on Verizon other than pop in the sim card. I hope this helps.

Thanks DFSPCC, I was wondering the same thing and having it listed to work with VZN in the US on willmyphonework.net up to 3G speeds, which is fine by me. Considering the low price at the moment for the Mi5, I think is a great option.

Never to late
I'm considering on getting this phone... 5.7 inch with OK specs to work with Verizon only thing is you said 3g but that's OK its just to play and test hopefully I can root it... Don't knkw if they have any Roms for it..... Ive been HTC for over 10 yrs and they have let me down been waiting for a 5.7 or bigger... The max was nice but bad specs realy slow so.... I was going to do the s8 plus but now I see the U12 coming soon. But i don't know if Verizon will carry it... They don't carry the U11 don't know why.... What do you think? And thanks again for your time and help god bless....
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I just saw you message and it is a bit late, but I have the Mi5 and use it on Verizon. It is only 3G on that. I can also use both my Verizon Sim card and my AT&T sim at the same time and have two carriers with two different numbers on the same phone. I had to do nothing to get it to work on Verizon other than pop in the sim card. I hope this helps.
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Question 5G performance

This Pixel 7 is the first 5G capable phone I have owned. The 5G is so slow as to be unusable. I am in middle Tennessee and RedPocket is my provider, using the AT&T network. I have disabled 5G and my speed/connection is very good.
When 5G is enabled I do have a strong signal according to the signal meter icon. But pages load in "spurts". The browser will take several seconds to make the initial connection and then as the page loads it will pause while more data is downloaded. Using 4G pages load very quickly.
Is this because I'm using a MVNO (RedPocket) or is something else going on?

terry274 said:
Is this because I'm using a MVNO (RedPocket) or is something else going on?
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It could be either or both. MVNOs are de-prioritized which, depending on the network traffic where you are, could mean terrible speeds or speeds just as good as the provider's tier one post-pay accounts.
I, too, am new to 5G and using Boost (an AT&T MVNO) until the trial period runs out and I move to Mint (TMO). My 5G performance is fine; it's not faster or slower than the exact same 4G service from my Pixel 3.

I'm going to give Tello Mobile a try. They use the Tmobile network. I will report back.

I got activated with Tello using an esim. I've only used them a few minutes but everything looks good so far.

The issue with AT&T is that they don't use all of their brands for 5G so LTE can be much faster than 5G. T-Mobile has crazy good 5G speeds if you live where they have midband. I have Tello as well as SafeLink on AT&T and I have found that AT&T has better latency, T-Mobile has much better speeds, and AT&T tends to have the stronger signal in the Denver area as well.
I use my SafeLink pSIM for data and the Tello eSIM for everything else usually.

This was on my drive home over the weekend, going through Joplin, MO. Not too bad in a larger city. My P6 didn't hit 100 down just 2 weeks ago at the same spot.
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No problems here, with Cosmote carrier in Greece.
I would raise the issue of low speeds with my carrier

Apparently there was an update needed, my speed on the AT&T network is now as expected. I did not change anything (that I know of). I'm going to stick with RedPocket rather than Tello due to better coverage in my area with AT&T.

phoinix_gr said:
No problems here, with Cosmote carrier in Greece.
I would raise the issue of low speeds with my carrier
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This is a very low speed for a 5G network!

Elijah256 said:
This is a very low speed for a 5G network!
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Indeed. But 1Gbit in the air, is fine for me.

Just got the pixel 7 and my 5G is all over the place. I get 1 bar 5G UC, indicating poor signal but will go to full bars from time to time. Whats weird is that if i make a call or receive a call it will jump to full bars. If i switch from wifi to mobile or restart the phone it will give me full bars and drop to 1 bar soon after.
I've called tmobile and they had me upgrade to a new 5G sim but it didnt fix anything. My previous phone was OnePlus 8t 5G and had no issues with 5G. All other 5g phones at home get full bars, the tmobile tower is about 50 yards from my home.
Thinking about returning the phone and keeping the One Plus until Pixel 8 or until Pixel 7 issues are sorted out. I might try to get another Pixel 7 sent to me try out. This P7 has a August build date, maybe a more recent build will not have this issue.

After my Tello experiment my AT&T started working reliably. I would say give it a day and see if it gets sorted out.

wendellc said:
Just got the pixel 7 and my 5G is all over the place. I get 1 bar 5G UC, indicating poor signal but will go to full bars from time to time. Whats weird is that if i make a call or receive a call it will jump to full bars. If i switch from wifi to mobile or restart the phone it will give me full bars and drop to 1 bar soon after.
I've called tmobile and they had me upgrade to a new 5G sim but it didnt fix anything. My previous phone was OnePlus 8t 5G and had no issues with 5G. All other 5g phones at home get full bars, the tmobile tower is about 50 yards from my home.
Thinking about returning the phone and keeping the One Plus until Pixel 8 or until Pixel 7 issues are sorted out. I might try to get another Pixel 7 sent to me try out. This P7 has a August build date, maybe a more recent build will not have this issue.
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Is your service usable? Are your speeds acceptable? Bars mean nothing. We really should get rid of them in favor of something that just shows whether you have a network connection or not because these days with multiple carrier aggregation, bars are never correct.

rczrider said:
It could be either or both. MVNOs are de-prioritized which, depending on the network traffic where you are, could mean terrible speeds or speeds just as good as the provider's tier one post-pay accounts.
I, too, am new to 5G and using Boost (an AT&T MVNO) until the trial period runs out and I move to Mint (TMO). My 5G performance is fine; it's not faster or slower than the exact same 4G service from my Pixel 3.
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rczrider said:
It could be either or both. MVNOs are de-prioritized which, depending on the network traffic where you are, could mean terrible speeds or speeds just as good as the provider's tier one post-pay accounts.
I, too, am new to 5G and using Boost (an AT&T MVNO) until the trial period runs out and I move to Mint (TMO). My 5G performance is fine; it's not faster or slower than the exact same 4G service from my Pixel 3.
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Boost was Sprint, which has been swallowed up by T-Mobile and that CDMA network shut down. At this point Boost is T-Mobile, not ATT. If the phone you purchased was factory unlocked then you have been using 5G since day one, unless it defaults to 4G. If the phone is ATT phone then you would be better served by Cricket which uses the ATT network. Since you have a Google device why not go with Google Fi their plans are nominally priced. Although when they first started offering service they were trying to be something for everyone by using all gsm services. Most coverage is by T-MOBILE today.

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Boost was Sprint, which has been swallowed up by T-Mobile and that CDMA network shut down. At this point Boost is T-Mobile, not ATT. If the phone you purchased was factory unlocked then you have been using 5G since day one, unless it defaults to 4G. If the phone is ATT phone then you would be better served by Cricket which uses the ATT network. Since you have a Google device why not go with Google Fi their plans are nominally priced. Although when they first started offering service they were trying to be something for everyone by using all gsm services. Most coverage is by T-MOBILE today.
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Boost offers AT&T as well...
If you order from www.boostmobile.com it is T-Mobile. If you order from my.boostmobile.com or deals.boostmobile.com, it is AT&T. You can also tell by your SIM card - if it's orange or white, it's T-Mobile. If it's black, it's AT&T.
Boost's AT&T SIM even has one of the best deals around right now - 30GB for $25 a month with no need to buy multiple months and unlimited at 512kbps after that (which is actually usable). They even have an app that lets you watch ads and spin the prize wheel each day towards free service plus third party offers like installing and playing games. I've already racked up $38 worth of bill credits since I signed up on the 27th.

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Is your service usable? Are your speeds acceptable? Bars mean nothing. We really should get rid of them in favor of something that just shows whether you have a network connection or not because these days with multiple carrier aggregation, bars are never correct.
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service us usable but I've had a few drop signals.

wendellc said:
service us usable but I've had a few drop signals.
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It's weird that so many have reported this while so many of us have reported we don't have that problem. I have tried the phone on three different networks and have been pleased with the modem. I have the Pro though, maybe there's something different with the reception although I've seen complaints about it too.

I'm pulling almost 1200 mbps on TMobile by my house on p7.

I turned off 5G altogether and just use LTE because I was having intermittent data connection issues. I haven't had any connection issues since turning 5G off. Sucks but it is what it is, I guess. I'm on T-Mobile in a high 5G area as well.

AT&T may throttle your provider speed during peak time...test the area at different time of the day and see...why own this phone and use 4G or LTE...it almost a sin