This Pixel 7 is the first 5G capable phone I have owned. The 5G is so slow as to be unusable. I am in middle Tennessee and RedPocket is my provider, using the AT&T network. I have disabled 5G and my speed/connection is very good.
When 5G is enabled I do have a strong signal according to the signal meter icon. But pages load in "spurts". The browser will take several seconds to make the initial connection and then as the page loads it will pause while more data is downloaded. Using 4G pages load very quickly.
Is this because I'm using a MVNO (RedPocket) or is something else going on?
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Is this because I'm using a MVNO (RedPocket) or is something else going on?
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It could be either or both. MVNOs are de-prioritized which, depending on the network traffic where you are, could mean terrible speeds or speeds just as good as the provider's tier one post-pay accounts.
I, too, am new to 5G and using Boost (an AT&T MVNO) until the trial period runs out and I move to Mint (TMO). My 5G performance is fine; it's not faster or slower than the exact same 4G service from my Pixel 3.
I'm going to give Tello Mobile a try. They use the Tmobile network. I will report back.
I got activated with Tello using an esim. I've only used them a few minutes but everything looks good so far.
The issue with AT&T is that they don't use all of their brands for 5G so LTE can be much faster than 5G. T-Mobile has crazy good 5G speeds if you live where they have midband. I have Tello as well as SafeLink on AT&T and I have found that AT&T has better latency, T-Mobile has much better speeds, and AT&T tends to have the stronger signal in the Denver area as well.
I use my SafeLink pSIM for data and the Tello eSIM for everything else usually.
This was on my drive home over the weekend, going through Joplin, MO. Not too bad in a larger city. My P6 didn't hit 100 down just 2 weeks ago at the same spot.
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No problems here, with Cosmote carrier in Greece.
I would raise the issue of low speeds with my carrier
Apparently there was an update needed, my speed on the AT&T network is now as expected. I did not change anything (that I know of). I'm going to stick with RedPocket rather than Tello due to better coverage in my area with AT&T.
phoinix_gr said:
No problems here, with Cosmote carrier in Greece.
I would raise the issue of low speeds with my carrier
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This is a very low speed for a 5G network!
Elijah256 said:
This is a very low speed for a 5G network!
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Indeed. But 1Gbit in the air, is fine for me.
Just got the pixel 7 and my 5G is all over the place. I get 1 bar 5G UC, indicating poor signal but will go to full bars from time to time. Whats weird is that if i make a call or receive a call it will jump to full bars. If i switch from wifi to mobile or restart the phone it will give me full bars and drop to 1 bar soon after.
I've called tmobile and they had me upgrade to a new 5G sim but it didnt fix anything. My previous phone was OnePlus 8t 5G and had no issues with 5G. All other 5g phones at home get full bars, the tmobile tower is about 50 yards from my home.
Thinking about returning the phone and keeping the One Plus until Pixel 8 or until Pixel 7 issues are sorted out. I might try to get another Pixel 7 sent to me try out. This P7 has a August build date, maybe a more recent build will not have this issue.
After my Tello experiment my AT&T started working reliably. I would say give it a day and see if it gets sorted out.
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Just got the pixel 7 and my 5G is all over the place. I get 1 bar 5G UC, indicating poor signal but will go to full bars from time to time. Whats weird is that if i make a call or receive a call it will jump to full bars. If i switch from wifi to mobile or restart the phone it will give me full bars and drop to 1 bar soon after.
I've called tmobile and they had me upgrade to a new 5G sim but it didnt fix anything. My previous phone was OnePlus 8t 5G and had no issues with 5G. All other 5g phones at home get full bars, the tmobile tower is about 50 yards from my home.
Thinking about returning the phone and keeping the One Plus until Pixel 8 or until Pixel 7 issues are sorted out. I might try to get another Pixel 7 sent to me try out. This P7 has a August build date, maybe a more recent build will not have this issue.
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Is your service usable? Are your speeds acceptable? Bars mean nothing. We really should get rid of them in favor of something that just shows whether you have a network connection or not because these days with multiple carrier aggregation, bars are never correct.
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It could be either or both. MVNOs are de-prioritized which, depending on the network traffic where you are, could mean terrible speeds or speeds just as good as the provider's tier one post-pay accounts.
I, too, am new to 5G and using Boost (an AT&T MVNO) until the trial period runs out and I move to Mint (TMO). My 5G performance is fine; it's not faster or slower than the exact same 4G service from my Pixel 3.
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It could be either or both. MVNOs are de-prioritized which, depending on the network traffic where you are, could mean terrible speeds or speeds just as good as the provider's tier one post-pay accounts.
I, too, am new to 5G and using Boost (an AT&T MVNO) until the trial period runs out and I move to Mint (TMO). My 5G performance is fine; it's not faster or slower than the exact same 4G service from my Pixel 3.
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Boost was Sprint, which has been swallowed up by T-Mobile and that CDMA network shut down. At this point Boost is T-Mobile, not ATT. If the phone you purchased was factory unlocked then you have been using 5G since day one, unless it defaults to 4G. If the phone is ATT phone then you would be better served by Cricket which uses the ATT network. Since you have a Google device why not go with Google Fi their plans are nominally priced. Although when they first started offering service they were trying to be something for everyone by using all gsm services. Most coverage is by T-MOBILE today.
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Boost was Sprint, which has been swallowed up by T-Mobile and that CDMA network shut down. At this point Boost is T-Mobile, not ATT. If the phone you purchased was factory unlocked then you have been using 5G since day one, unless it defaults to 4G. If the phone is ATT phone then you would be better served by Cricket which uses the ATT network. Since you have a Google device why not go with Google Fi their plans are nominally priced. Although when they first started offering service they were trying to be something for everyone by using all gsm services. Most coverage is by T-MOBILE today.
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Boost offers AT&T as well...
If you order from www.boostmobile.com it is T-Mobile. If you order from my.boostmobile.com or deals.boostmobile.com, it is AT&T. You can also tell by your SIM card - if it's orange or white, it's T-Mobile. If it's black, it's AT&T.
Boost's AT&T SIM even has one of the best deals around right now - 30GB for $25 a month with no need to buy multiple months and unlimited at 512kbps after that (which is actually usable). They even have an app that lets you watch ads and spin the prize wheel each day towards free service plus third party offers like installing and playing games. I've already racked up $38 worth of bill credits since I signed up on the 27th.
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Is your service usable? Are your speeds acceptable? Bars mean nothing. We really should get rid of them in favor of something that just shows whether you have a network connection or not because these days with multiple carrier aggregation, bars are never correct.
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service us usable but I've had a few drop signals.
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service us usable but I've had a few drop signals.
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It's weird that so many have reported this while so many of us have reported we don't have that problem. I have tried the phone on three different networks and have been pleased with the modem. I have the Pro though, maybe there's something different with the reception although I've seen complaints about it too.
I'm pulling almost 1200 mbps on TMobile by my house on p7.
I turned off 5G altogether and just use LTE because I was having intermittent data connection issues. I haven't had any connection issues since turning 5G off. Sucks but it is what it is, I guess. I'm on T-Mobile in a high 5G area as well.
AT&T may throttle your provider speed during peak time...test the area at different time of the day and see...why own this phone and use 4G or LTE...it almost a sin
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Today, metroPCS announced compatibility with select unlocked GSM devices, and Nexus 4 is on the list as supported.
http://www.androidcentral.com/metropcs-now-welcomes-unlocked-gsm-devices-its-network#comment-616891
I have a few things I am wondering after hearing this news and realizing that they offer completely unlimited voice/text/4G for $60, while Tmo costs $70 for the same thing.
1. are they on Tmo's network yet?
2. is the '4g' service they refer to actually LTE, or is it hspa like Tmo?
3. what data speeds will I be able to connect to with my N4?
4. does metroPCS use band 4 for LTE? if so, is there a list of cities with LTE coverage available?
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Today, metroPCS announced compatibility with select unlocked GSM devices, and Nexus 4 is on the list as supported.
http://www.androidcentral.com/metropcs-now-welcomes-unlocked-gsm-devices-its-network#comment-616891
I have a few things I am wondering after hearing this news and realizing that they offer completely unlimited voice/text/4G for $60, while Tmo costs $70 for the same thing.
1. are they on Tmo's network yet?
2. is the '4g' service they refer to actually LTE, or is it hspa like Tmo?
3. what data speeds will I be able to connect to with my N4?
4. does metroPCS use band 4 for LTE? if so, is there a list of cities with LTE coverage available?
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1. I believe for this service they will be using tmobiles hspa+ network since they currently support CDMA.
2.4g is hspa+, I'm not sure about the lte.
3.standard T-Mobile speeds for hspa+ because they are more than likely using t-mobiles network.
4. It could be that they are using t-mobiles lte network along with the hspa network.
Also its only available in Boston, las Vegas,Dallas and hartford. They said they will add more cities in the future.
http://www.metropcs.com/metro/stati...pyourphone&int_camp=byod-hp-m1-spot=full=true
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1. I believe for this service they will be using tmobiles hspa+ network since they currently support CDMA.
2.4g is hspa+, I'm not sure about the lte.
3.standard T-Mobile speeds for hspa+ because they are more than likely using t-mobiles network.
4. It could be that they are using t-mobiles lte network along with the hspa network.
Also its only available in Boston, las Vegas,Dallas and hartford. They said they will add more cities in the future.
http://www.metropcs.com/metro/stati...pyourphone&int_camp=byod-hp-m1-spot=full=true
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It's nice that MetroPCS is finally doing a bring your own phone thing instead of making you buy a phone as they used to do but it's still T-Mobile service which sucks here. And those cities listed are where T-Mobile already has LTE service up and running so they might be limiting this to where T-Mobile plans to bring in LTE. I also looked at the plans and while they are unlimited they are capped. For $40 a month you only get 500 MB of 4G(LTE) data but I can't find what speed it drops to after that, is it HSPA+, 3G, 2G who knows.
This is a great idea for metro......I get really bad tmo service in my house might make the switch if the prices are on par.....
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This is a great idea for metro......I get really bad tmo service in my house might make the switch if the prices are on par.....
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I don't think its gonna make any difference if they're using t-mo's gsm network
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I don't think its gonna make any difference if they're using t-mo's gsm network
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I'm hoping at some point they combine the networks
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It's nice that MetroPCS is finally doing a bring your own phone thing instead of making you buy a phone as they used to do but it's still T-Mobile service which sucks here. And those cities listed are where T-Mobile already has LTE service up and running so they might be limiting this to where T-Mobile plans to bring in LTE. I also looked at the plans and while they are unlimited they are capped. For $40 a month you only get 500 MB of 4G(LTE) data but I can't find what speed it drops to after that, is it HSPA+, 3G, 2G who knows.
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hartford is a short drive for me to get a sim card at a local store. also, they are not on tmobile's lte yet. the only area in ct where it's on is stamford & norwalk, about an hour and a half from hartford. if it's tmo's network i would assume the speed after the data cap is 2g
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I'm hoping at some point they combine the networks
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They can't combine the networks as MetroPCS has no infrastructure of their own they use Sprint's network.
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They can't combine the networks as MetroPCS has no infrastructure of their own they use Sprint's network.
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They already made a deal on May 1st 2013,..
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They can't combine the networks as MetroPCS has no infrastructure of their own they use Sprint's network.
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Not true. Metro PCS has spectrum holdings of their own that will be refarmed once they move their customers to T-Mobile's network.
Here is a good article that explains it
http://gigaom.com/2012/10/03/a-birds-eye-view-of-a-combined-t-mobile-metropcs/
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They can't combine the networks as MetroPCS has no infrastructure of their own they use Sprint's network.
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What? T-Mobile bought MetroPCS purely for their spectrum. Granted it will take several years before most of it is usable by T-Mobile users.
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What? T-Mobile bought MetroPCS purely for their spectrum. Granted it will take several years before most of it is usable by T-Mobile users.
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MetroPCS has limited spectrum, but their LTE is compatible with T-Mobile, 1900 MHz AWS but its very limited as to its coverage. Only in a couple, maybe 6, states and mostly large metro areas. They have like 13 MHz of spectrum in New York, Boston, Dallas, Miami, Detroit, LA and San Francisco which is still mostly CDMA right now. T-Mobile will be expanding in those areas but not elsewhere once they shut down the CDMA network. And for nationwide coverage MetroPCS was using Sprint's network which is who they have roaming agreements with.
One of T-Mobiles biggest problems of late was that it was bleeding subscribers which results in lost revenue which in turn lowers the stock price. Now all of sudden they've added 9 million new subscribers which in the short term will increase the company's revenue and thus its stock price. The limited amount of spectrum it gained will help it compete for subscribers in the large markets I listed above hopefully turning the trend around.
But if someone say from Chicago, or St. Louis asks how does this merger affect me the answer is it doesn't. MetroPCS has no spectrum there, or in about 95% of the country, so nothing changes.
I disagree that this merger will prevent T-Mobile from buying more companies for spectrum. Given their small size compared to Verizon and att, T-Mobile should have no problem clearing anti trust hurdles with the government. They also seem to be now an american company with a majority stake owned by the German parent. I may be wrong but I think before it was just a whole German subsidiary of Deutsche telecom. What I'm sad about is that they didn't merge or buy the wireless spectrum of dish network when that merger was a rumor. Perhaps the cost is too high. They have been bleeding customers for years now but have always been a profitable company. They got enough spectrum and money from the failed att buyout agreement and this metro PCs buyout to roll out a great lte network but I don't understand why people don't realize how good their hspa service is. Att is very slow and clogged and Verizon rarely gets better on lte with their congested network. Never mind the 50+ dollar difference in price per month. I just don't understand why T-Mobile can't make more traction. Maybe with the top tier phones they have been getting as of late and the iPhone will ultimately help their bottom line. I really want to see them expand as long as they don't raise prices too much.
Hopefully their next move will be to buy up spectrum or towers in areas with no coverage previously. I would be more than happy to get plain old 3g service in the more rural areas that are stuck on edge like New York (upstate) and other spots in the north east.
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Jayrod1980 said:
I disagree that this merger will prevent T-Mobile from buying more companies for spectrum. Given their small size compared to Verizon and att, T-Mobile should have no problem clearing anti trust hurdles with the government. They also seem to be now an american company with a majority stake owned by the German parent. I may be wrong but I think before it was just a whole German subsidiary of Deutsche telecom. What I'm sad about is that they didn't merge or buy the wireless spectrum of dish network when that merger was a rumor. Perhaps the cost is too high. They have been bleeding customers for years now but have always been a profitable company. They got enough spectrum and money from the failed att buyout agreement and this metro PCs buyout to roll out a great lte network but I don't understand why people don't realize how good their hspa service is. Att is very slow and clogged and Verizon rarely gets better on lte with their congested network. Never mind the 50+ dollar difference in price per month. I just don't understand why T-Mobile can't make more traction. Maybe with the top tier phones they have been getting as of late and the iPhone will ultimately help their bottom line. I really want to see them expand as long as they don't raise prices too much.
Hopefully their next move will be to buy up spectrum or towers in areas with no coverage previously. I would be more than happy to get plain old 3g service in the more rural areas that are stuck on edge like New York (upstate) and other spots in the north east.
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I agree....their hspa+ isn't half bad:
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I still can't believe I'm only paying $30 a month for my plan with 5gb data! People are blown away when I tell them that. Even though it only includes 100 minutes, 10cents a minute after that is still a pretty good deal, unless you use like 2000 minutes a month usually. After the month's up I usually average about $45 between the base price and extra minutes. This month I topped up early because I killed my 5gb in about a week lol. Even after it cost me $60 this month, I still saved $30 over what I would have spent if I had stayed with sprint.
considering the cities cited metro will be on its own network(the northeast was recently built out new about 4 yrs ago). Hartford, New Haven and Springfield network was built by pocket wireless before they were absorbed by metro... I'm pretty certain the network in New England is capable of delivering 4g lte
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Metro is going to be gone by the end of next year...i just came away from them to come on to T-Mo...their network sucks ass..and so does their customer service...
I will stick with T-mo instead of going back to MetroPOS
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I agree....their hspa+ isn't half bad:
I still can't believe I'm only paying $30 a month for my plan with 5gb data! People are blown away when I tell them that. Even though it only includes 100 minutes, 10cents a minute after that is still a pretty good deal, unless you use like 2000 minutes a month usually. After the month's up I usually average about $45 between the base price and extra minutes. This month I topped up early because I killed my 5gb in about a week lol. Even after it cost me $60 this month, I still saved $30 over what I would have spent if I had stayed with sprint.
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I agree with you about the HSPA+ speeds. I'm in an HSPA+21 area and my highest “down" was 13 Mbps gotta love Build Prop tweaks! I work with a couple of people who have Metro PCS and none of them recommend it. Their “3g" is terrible and even their LTE is under par. America has become so brainwashed with 4GLTE being the best thing since sliced bread, that they're not reading into or even trying out T-Mobile.
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i must say it worked as these things normally do. They threw the word LTE out there a send most of America has bought into it.. So you are telling me you are doing that much more if you connect at 21mbps than 13-20mbps because that usually my speeds on HSPA+ network. Really LTE draining more battery but ok so you downloaded that app on the Play Store 6 seconds faster than me....
As long as I can stream with my Plex, Slingbox, Youtube videos and anything else I need without a hiccup I could care less if its 13 or 31.... Just my opinion
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i must say it worked as these things normally do. They threw the word LTE out there a send most of America has bought into it.. So you are telling me you are doing that much more if you connect at 21mbps than 13-20mbps because that usually my speeds on HSPA+ network.
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LTE can handle a much bigger load of users and the latency is much smaller. All major carriers are moving to it as fast as possible because it is just a much more efficient network. It has nothing to do with individual speeds of users.
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i must say it worked as these things normally do. They threw the word LTE out there a send most of America has bought into it.. So you are telling me you are doing that much more if you connect at 21mbps than 13-20mbps because that usually my speeds on HSPA+ network. Really LTE draining more battery but ok so you downloaded that app on the Play Store 6 seconds faster than me....
As long as I can stream with my Plex, Slingbox, Youtube videos and anything else I need without a hiccup I could care less if its 13 or 31.... Just my opinion
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Then you are not what's considered a 'power user' so you may not benefit from LTE. Others, like myself, prefer to not pay additional money to a landline internet provider if we have the capability of getting decent speeds and coverage from a wireless host. I, personally, would rather just pay my mobile provider for an unlimited data plan and just turn on the wifi hotspot on my phone for all my devices to use. This can only work with a good fast connection, though. As small as they can be, have you ever tried downloading a rom zip on 3g? Or 2g? It can take well over an hour if you don't have a decent connection. And rom updates are one of the many things users in this community consider a commodity. If I can't get HSPA coverage I won't even bother trying to download a rom, because I know it's going to time out eventually. And yes, I would definitely prefer to have LTE even when downloading a rom. I'd much rather it take me a minute to download it than 4 minutes....I know it must sound crazy to not want to waste 4x as much time waiting lol Just because it's a small amount of time doesn't make it any less significant
Well, I've had this phone for a good 3 months now. I used to have an S2 with H+. I'm not exactly sure how fast 3G(EVDO) is supposed to be, but I'm assuming I should be able to, at the very least, do a Google search. I can barely browse sometimes on LTE, let alone 3G.
Well, today, my buddy showed be a website on his Verizon iPhone 4. It was, at the very least, ten times faster than my browsing experience. It felt as fast as my Wi-fi!
This raises a serious question for me:
Is the HTC One slow? Or is it just Sprint being Sprint? Because I have yet to see such browsing speeds, even in strong(ish) LTE areas.
I have only the One on Sprint, so I have nothing to test it against, but can Sprint's 3G be that bad? Can verizon's 3G be that good?
Are you guys able to browse comfortably on 3G? Is my device defective?
I have no idea. I just want to be able to use my mobile phone as a mobile phone. As in, able to use the internet outside of my house. It's very frustrating sometimes when I want to look something up and the connection times out.
So, how fast is your browsing experience?
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Well, I've had this phone for a good 3 months now. I used to have an S2 with H+. I'm not exactly sure how fast 3G(EVDO) is supposed to be, but I'm assuming I should be able to, at the very least, do a Google search. I can barely browse sometimes on LTE, let alone 3G.
Well, today, my buddy showed be a website on his Verizon iPhone 4. It was, at the very least, ten times faster than my browsing experience. It felt as my Wi-fi!
This raises a serious question for me:
Is the HTC One slow? Or is it just Sprint being Sprint? Because I have yet to see such browsing speeds, even in strong(ish) LTE areas.
I have only the One on Sprint, so I have nothing to test it against, but can Sprint's 3G be that bad? Can verizon's 3G be that good?
Are you guys able to browse comfortably on 3G? Is my device defective?
I have no idea. I just want to be able to use my mobile phone as a mobile phone. As in, able to use the internet outside of my house. It's very frustrating sometimes when I want to look something up and the connection times out.
So, how fast is your browsing experience?
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3g maxs out at around 2-3 mbps I'm not sure but this is the limitation of the evdo technology that's is being used. Sprints internet service has been decreasing over the years probably due to their backhaul but as network vision is being applied your data speed rates should be increasing. Verizon has fast 3g because of their network as of now sprint is playing the catch up game but it shouldn't be that long until it's there. If you just want ur mobile phone to work like a mobile phone shouldnt that just be calls?
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3g maxs out at around 2-3 mbps I'm not sure but this is the limitation of the evdo technology that's is being used. Sprints internet service has been decreasing over the years probably due to their backhaul but as network vision is being applied your data speed rates should be increasing. Verizon has fast 3g because of their network as of now sprint is playing the catch up game but it shouldn't be that long until it's there. If you just want ur mobile phone to work like a mobile phone shouldnt that just be calls?
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To the question: No. By mobile, I mean being able to move around. Smartphones are the new definition of mobile phones.
And 2-3 megs on 3g? Ha! That's a good one... I barely get 2 on LTE. I get like 80kbps, if even, on 3G. Is there something wrong with my phone or is it just Sprint?
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To the question: No. By mobile, I mean being able to move around. Smartphones are the new definition of mobile phones.
And 2-3 megs on 3g? Ha! That's a good one... I barely get 2 on LTE. I get like 80kbps, if even, on 3G. Is there something wrong with my phone or is it just Sprint?
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It's just sprint ... Sprint made a bad call when they invested in wimax while others like Verizon went lte ... Verizon's 3g is pretty fast especially now that a ton of their devices prioritize lte.
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To the question: No. By mobile, I mean being able to move around. Smartphones are the new definition of mobile phones.
And 2-3 megs on 3g? Ha! That's a good one... I barely get 2 on LTE. I get like 80kbps, if even, on 3G. Is there something wrong with my phone or is it just Sprint?
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If ur really fedup with sprints 3g u can always SIM unlock and load up a at& or tmobile SIM and use their 3g. Theres also just leaving sprint completely and going to another company
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If ur really fedup with sprints 3g u can always SIM unlock and load up a at& or tmobile SIM and use their 3g. Theres also just leaving sprint completely and going to another company
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Can I tell Sprint that I'm getting crappy-a$$ speeds and ask for a free contract termination? Or, at least, a discounted ETF?
I don't wanna pay $1000+ for phones I'll have to sell for like <$300 each.
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To the question: No. By mobile, I mean being able to move around. Smartphones are the new definition of mobile phones.
And 2-3 megs on 3g? Ha! That's a good one... I barely get 2 on LTE. I get like 80kbps, if even, on 3G. Is there something wrong with my phone or is it just Sprint?
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I don't have any problems with 3g or lte. There was problem for a month, or so when they were working on lte towers. Brooklyn, NY. The only thing that I didn't update radios.
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In Manhattan on the other hand speed is not good at all.
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I don't have any problems with 3g or lte. There was problem for a month, or so when they were working on lte towers. Brooklyn, NY. The only thing that I didn't update radios.View attachment 2161342
In Manhattan on the other hand speed is not good at all.
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In absolute disbelief at your 3G speeds. Do you think that the problems around South Bay area are because of Network Vision upgrades and LTE? The Sprint rep told me, when I bought my phone, that we would get LTE by August (this month).
I really like this phone, and Sprints prices are very reasonable. How long do you think before South bay gets a stable 3G network?
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Can I tell Sprint that I'm getting crappy-a$$ speeds and ask for a free contract termination? Or, at least, a discounted ETF?
I don't wanna pay $1000+ for phones I'll have to sell for like <$300 each.
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Very unlikely you'll get any adjustments towards contract termination. If you happen to get ahold of a sympathetic Care rep, they may be able to reimburse you x amount of dollars per x months, but that's probably going to be about it. They give you 14 days to "try" their network. If you did not cancel within that 14 days, you are stating that you are OK with everything and agree to roll with it for 2 years.
As far as speed issues, I have seen ups and downs as well. I believe ever since the Network Vision expansion, Sprint has devoted less attention to general tower maintenance on the whole and more towards beefing up for future performance. Therefore a local cell site with a capacity issue does not get repaired/upgraded/tweaked as fast as it should, and all of a sudden your phone is pinging towers even further away just to establish data connection, hence the lower speeds and reliability.
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In absolute disbelief at your 3G speeds. Do you think that the problems around South Bay area are because of Network Vision upgrades and LTE? The Sprint rep told me, when I bought my phone, that we would get LTE by August (this month).
I really like this phone, and Sprints prices are very reasonable. How long do you think before South bay gets a stable 3G network?
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I live in union city and I have ****ty 3g and spotty 4g but I see a bunch of areas lighting up with 4g... The roll out has been slow. I checked the sprint website and if I search for my address it says I have lte in my are which I don't
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Man. I wish I had read up more about Sprint. I would have known about how much of a failure wimax was and would have stayed away.
Well, here I am.
My other concern is: Does anybody have a different brand of phone on Sprint and get better data speeds? I am utterly shocked that data speeds could be so slow in Silicon valley. Its really hard to believe that Sprint is so bad that it barely covers the 680 and 101 here.
Really, the slow speeds limit basic functions like searching and browsing. Forget about streaming and downloading.
sauprankul said:
Man. I wish I had read up more about Sprint. I would have known about how much of a failure wimax was and would have stayed away.
Well, here I am.
My other concern is: Does anybody have a different brand of phone on Sprint and get better data speeds? I am utterly shocked that data speeds could be so slow in Silicon valley. Its really hard to believe that Sprint is so bad that it barely covers the 680 and 101 here.
Really, the slow speeds limit basic functions like searching and browsing. Forget about streaming and downloading.
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I've had almost all devices on sprint and it makes no difference the speed is crap. Only reason I'm still with sprint is because my business pays for it.
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I get about 700kbit download and 600kbit upload on average which is good enough for browsing and video calls but forget about downloading 50+mb apps.As long as texts work all the time and I can roam for free I'm good to go.
Just remembered thanks to that guy mentioning roaming. Apperently people in the past people would flash a Verizon prl that would allow them access to their 3g service by forcing roam. After a while sprint would message them via a letter or something telling them they are excessively roam and their account will be terminated. This was a method that some were using to get out of their sprint contracts without having to pay the etf. Although this is morally indecent so it is up to u to try it. I don't know how the results for u will come out though since u just opened ur account just tossing it out there
Lmao!!! This is the very reason there is a sick of sprint thread. 3g is not usable in most areas. I was with them for 10 years b4 I finally got myself kicked off and went to att. Their data speeds are disappointing. I was never able to stream a YouTube video. I do think that call quality was a little better on sprint tho. I would suggest anybody who wants to use their networks data DO NOT GO WITH SPRINT
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I get about 700kbit download and 600kbit upload on average which is good enough for browsing and video calls but forget about downloading 50+mb apps.As long as texts work all the time and I can roam for free I'm good to go.
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I would kill for this. Maybe 10 days out the the year I get 1500kbits for some reason. The rest of the time? 150kbits down. LTE I usually get about 2. I'm located in a major city along the east coast, 10 miles from the ocean.
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Lmao!!! This is the very reason there is a sick of sprint thread. 3g is not usable in most areas. I was with them for 10 years b4 I finally got myself kicked off and went to att. Their data speeds are disappointing. I was never able to stream a YouTube video. I do think that call quality was a little better on sprint tho. I would suggest anybody who wants to use their networks data DO NOT GO WITH SPRINT
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I'm desperate people. I can't go along with this kind of service. I would be perfectly happy with 2 megs down. I dont need 30 megs down or whatever, and chances are, if Sprint has never really taken the effort to put decent 3G around here, they probably won't with 4G.
So about the roaming thing... Will I really get kicked out without an ETF? I think I can because I technically didn't ask them to kick me off, right? I just ended up accidentally roaming a bit too much. Does anybody have experience with the roaming loophole? Will I be able to keep this phone or what? Will they give me roaming fees? Is Verizon's 3G going to be that much faster?
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I'm desperate people. I can't go along with this kind of service. I would be perfectly happy with 2 megs down. I dont need 30 megs down or whatever, and chances are, if Sprint has never really taken the effort to put decent 3G around here, they probably won't with 4G.
So about the roaming thing... Will I really get kicked out without an ETF? I think I can because I technically didn't ask them to kick me off, right? I just ended up accidentally roaming a bit too much. Does anybody have experience with the roaming loophole? Will I be able to keep this phone or what? Will they give me roaming fees? Is Verizon's 3G going to be that much faster?
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Lol yes sir I just got kicked off July 23rd but I switched to att the day I found out I could. I would just stay with a Verizon prl not like 00003 or something and you have to do it for at least 3 months in a row. I would leave my phone downloaded torrents every night before I go to bed. At least a couple gbs in size. Sprint didn't kick me off right away tho. I did this in December January and February then I eventually gave up BC I didn't think they would boot me. Then in June they sent the letter saying my service would be disconnected ETF FREE!!! So I Porte's my number to att and the rest is history
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Lol yes sir I just got kicked off July 23rd but I switched to att the day I found out I could. I would just stay with a Verizon prl not like 00003 or something and you have to do it for at least 3 months in a row. I would leave my phone downloaded torrents every night before I go to bed. At least a couple gbs in size. Sprint didn't kick me off right away tho. I did this in December January and February then I eventually gave up BC I didn't think they would boot me. Then in June they sent the letter saying my service would be disconnected ETF FREE!!! So I Porte's my number to att and the rest is history
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Seems very doable if I set up a hotspot.
Just to confirm, does anybody else have experience with this? Are there any fees involved? This sounds too good to be true. I've looked this up online, and I see very few people who actually tried this and reported back.
But if I get to keep my phone and sell it and leave Sprint and go to AT&T and not have to worry about fees then I'll definitely do this with no hesitation.
Honestly, it's all about your location.
In areas with no Network Vision upgrades and ancient T1 backhauls, sprint's 3G is going to basically be unusable. While the EVDO towers can easily handle 1.5-2mbit of speed, the backhaul is so clogged that you are lucky to get 128kbps. (.1mbit)
I disabled the 4G Radio in my phone and did several speed tests on EVDO. This was in peak usage time (~1PM). I live in Maryland and I am in the Baltimore market rollout. This is a Network Vision tower, with 4G LTE I am connected to. The backhauls are fully upgraded with fiber. My speeds mostly sat around 1.7-1.8mbit. Enough to stream music on the go, load web pages, stream 360p youtube.
http://imgur.com/a/ygmHN
If you live in an area that is getting a 4G LTE rollout, the 3G speeds will definitely increase - and will probably be equal to those 3G speeds of the other CDMA provider - Verizon.
Then I enabled the 4G radio in my phone, ran another set of sets. About the same time (~1PM.)
http://imgur.com/a/4clVb
My average during peak times is anywhere from 5-9mbit down, with 3-5mbit up. Easily enough to stream HQ Music, HQ Youtube, quickly load web content, and even some HD netflix worked without problem.
During off-peak times, I easily speed test at 15-16mbit down, and 7-8mbit up.
http://imgur.com/a/MJbZc
My favorite has to be off-peak times. After about 11pm, everything is amazing. I can do multiple things online without issues. Tether to my PC, stream music, download files, ect. I've hit 16mbit down pretty easily, and I'm actually pretty far away from the tower. My RSSI is generally about 110-113dBm, which is getting to the edge of usability. I never lose my connection. (75 is right next to the tower, 120 is the edge of the signal.)
Okay, so here we go..
This is a thread we've all seen before 1000 times, except.. mines a little different.
So after having Verizon for a few years, and getting real tired of their ****.. I cancelled my contract, paid my fees and dipped. I work at a RadioShack and we get a real killer deal on AT&T plans, so I couldn't pass it up. Now as far as getting a new device, I decided to wait until the Moto X+1 drops in August to pick up a phone, and since the Verizon Moto X is Sim Unlocked, I grabbed a nano Sim out of the drawer, and went to town.
Believe it or not.. Everything turned out better than expected. I wasn't getting LTE, but I was getting HSPA+ at around 12-15mbps, which I could live with for the time being. Called AT&T just to see if there were any chance of me getting LTE. Found out, that the XT1060 (the Verizon Moto X) registers in their system as a Moto Droid Razr, which since that isn't a LTE phone, they won't try to send that associated SIM LTE. So between me, the customer service guy, and my AT&T Rep.. We figured if we threw any old XT1058 IMEI on my account, it would send the SIM LTE signal.. Got that done, and presto. LTE!
Now.. Hereeeeeee comes the fun part.
3-4 days later now.. I woke up this morning, and noticed my phone had -NO- service, whatsoever.. So I power cycle it, and it comes back up, gives me that bull**** "This Sim is from an unknown source" bull****.. and then proceeds to show me my LTE is back. I go to call my AT&T rep, and it comes up "Mobile Network Unavailable". Phone flickers black, sends me back to the home screen, and my service bar starts going berserk. It switches from No service, to 3 bars of H+, 1 bar of H, full bars of E, 2 bars of LTE, and everything in between. I'm standing still, and this thing is going craaaaaaaaaazy. Finally, it dies down and starts to even out at about 4 bars of H+. Any time it pops up with LTE, i get super awesome speeds, but cant make any kind of calls, or texts, and when I try to call/text, it does the service cycling thing again.
Any ideas?
I'm of course on 4.4.2, so I can't root.. So all the solutions need to be non-root capable.
inb4 just sell it and get an AT&T Moto X.
I plan on it, if all else fails. Why not try to breathe just a little bit of life into this one first.
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Okay, so here we go..
This is a thread we've all seen before 1000 times, except.. mines a little different.
So after having Verizon for a few years, and getting real tired of their ****.. I cancelled my contract, paid my fees and dipped. I work at a RadioShack and we get a real killer deal on AT&T plans, so I couldn't pass it up. Now as far as getting a new device, I decided to wait until the Moto X+1 drops in August to pick up a phone, and since the Verizon Moto X is Sim Unlocked, I grabbed a nano Sim out of the drawer, and went to town.
Believe it or not.. Everything turned out better than expected. I wasn't getting LTE, but I was getting HSPA+ at around 12-15mbps, which I could live with for the time being. Called AT&T just to see if there were any chance of me getting LTE. Found out, that the XT1060 (the Verizon Moto X) registers in their system as a Moto Droid Razr, which since that isn't a LTE phone, they won't try to send that associated SIM LTE. So between me, the customer service guy, and my AT&T Rep.. We figured if we threw any old XT1058 IMEI on my account, it would send the SIM LTE signal.. Got that done, and presto. LTE!
Now.. Hereeeeeee comes the fun part.
3-4 days later now.. I woke up this morning, and noticed my phone had -NO- service, whatsoever.. So I power cycle it, and it comes back up, gives me that bull**** "This Sim is from an unknown source" bull****.. and then proceeds to show me my LTE is back. I go to call my AT&T rep, and it comes up "Mobile Network Unavailable". Phone flickers black, sends me back to the home screen, and my service bar starts going berserk. It switches from No service, to 3 bars of H+, 1 bar of H, full bars of E, 2 bars of LTE, and everything in between. I'm standing still, and this thing is going craaaaaaaaaazy. Finally, it dies down and starts to even out at about 4 bars of H+. Any time it pops up with LTE, i get super awesome speeds, but cant make any kind of calls, or texts, and when I try to call/text, it does the service cycling thing again.
Any ideas?
I'm of course on 4.4.2, so I can't root.. So all the solutions need to be non-root capable.
inb4 just sell it and get an AT&T Moto X.
I plan on it, if all else fails. Why not try to breathe just a little bit of life into this one first.
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This a known issue on 4.4.2 - it has been reported by many users. From what I understand, Verizon did -something- because they didn't want their devices being use on domestic U.S. carriers. From all reports, GSM works flawlessly on international carriers, but has issues on domestic.
Before I advise you that it would be best to sell your X and get another, I will see if any other users have suggestions for you.
Also, if you DO decide to sell, I highly suggest that you do NOT buy the AT&T Moto X. The AT&T variant is not bootloader-unlockable (so no root/write-protect-disable), AND it is SIM-Locked to AT&T. Instead, buy the T-Mobile variant! The T-Mobile variant comes with NO bloat, IS bootloader unlockable (hello root!), AND is SIM-Unlocked for ANY GSM carrier (including AT&T). The AT&T variant DOES support 2 additional LTE bands, but AT&T has not implemented these bands in the United States yet. They are only testing the new bands in a few select markets. This means that the T-Mobile variant will support all LTE frequencies currently used by AT&T, AND has the added benefit of supporting the AWS band that is used extensively by T-Mobile, should you ever have reason to switch.
Good Luck
the message of "This Sim is from an unknown source" is part of the Verizon ROM. It was introduced with the 4.4 update. It was not there in 4.2.2 and 4.2.2 with camera fix.
The issue of trying to use LTE and the phone rebooting is known. There is discussion in this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/verizon-moto-x-t-mobile-t2578665 as well as work around and potential fixes. While its centered around T-Mobile as the network, the same tips/tricks could be modified for use on ATT.
Since the Verizon X supports LTE Band 4 and 13, and ATT is using Bands 2, 4, 5, 7 and 17, you're only going to get ATT LTE where they have Band 4, the easy way to fix is just force the X to NOT use LTE, or remove that XT1058 IMEI to go back to ATT thinking you have a GSM/GPRS/HSPA device.
Thanks for sharing that.
I found this:
These are the steps I used to turn off LTE and enable HSPA:
1) Download/install the app LTE OnOff
2) Change Mobile Network type in Settings to LTE / GSM / UMTS
3) On LTE OnOff, hit the Three-Dot menu in the top right, and select "Select radio band"
4) Select USA Band
5) Hit the Turn Off Radio button
6) Select GSM auto (PRL) under Preferred Network Type
7) Turn On Radio
The phone should show no data for a second, then 3G, then eventually an H for HSPA will be displayed.
You can also try GSM only or WCDMA preferred if GSM auto doesn't work.
Still trying to figure out how to get LTE to play nice with it.
From here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49521055&postcount=16
I think HSPA+ with 6MB down is plenty for anything we use on a daily basis. I'm debating about picking Droid Ultra Maxx to use on AT&T as well but all the reading about these issues is making me nervous. Moto X + 1 isn't getting here fast enough and I need the extra .3 inches
Edit: I found another link with app and steps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2591954
I'm curious....won't the phone be a hot mess if you sell it....and have the seller demand a refund?
Here is an interesting observation I made today... I have an xt1060 with a straight talk at&t sim in it...
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how does that work... How am I getting at&t LTE on a Verizon phone
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Can you guys tell me the pros of moving to t-mobile vs sticking with verizon? My main motivation is the fact that Verizon keeps selling locked bootloader phones so I can't ever mod them. Seriously frustrating. Is it true that all of t-mobiles phones are unlockable or already come unlocked? Also what are the average LTE speeds you guys see when doing speed tests on the tmobile network?
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Can you guys tell me the pros of moving to t-mobile vs sticking with verizon? My main motivation is the fact that Verizon keeps selling locked bootloader phones so I can't ever mod them. Seriously frustrating. Is it true that all of t-mobiles phones are unlockable or already come unlocked? Also what are the average LTE speeds you guys see when doing speed tests on the tmobile network?
Thanks.
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I have been on tmobile for years. The Samsung galaxy series has been easy to root and mod. If you live in a rural are the coverage can be spotty. They do have tbe wifi calling though as well so that is an added plus. Speeds work fine for me normal use.
cwhiatt said:
I have been on tmobile for years. The Samsung galaxy series has been easy to root and mod. If you live in a rural are the coverage can be spotty. They do have tbe wifi calling though as well so that is an added plus. Speeds work fine for me normal use.
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Any chance you could run a speedtest.net app and tell me the results? I know it wont be the same in all areas but it's nice to see what they are capable of.
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Any chance you could run a speedtest.net app and tell me the results? I know it wont be the same in all areas but it's nice to see what they are capable of.
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I can give it a go tomorrow when I am out and about.
I switched to T-Mobile last year I used to have Verizon and the speed and service was great but they didn't offer unlimited data and that is what I wanted so I switched but in my area they need more antennas because it gets to congested at times to the point that data isn't working and my average speed is 15 mb
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I can give it a go tomorrow when I am out and about.
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No service at the house? haha. That's not looking good for T-Mobile
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Can you guys tell me the pros of moving to t-mobile vs sticking with verizon? My main motivation is the fact that Verizon keeps selling locked bootloader phones so I can't ever mod them. Seriously frustrating. Is it true that all of t-mobiles phones are unlockable or already come unlocked? Also what are the average LTE speeds you guys see when doing speed tests on the tmobile network?
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I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile myself, and am totally glad I did.
Pros:
- cheaper
- offers an unlimited data plan, free international 3G data and texting (invaluable service when you travel; I've taken advantage of this too many times), many music/video streaming services don't count against your data bucket (if you don't have unlimited)
- no contracts
- the Jump/upgrade program is pretty good if you switch phones regularly
- phones can be unlocked at anytime, as long as you have paid off your phone
Cons
- I travel quite a bit, and have found that their coverage isn't consistent in rural areas (urban cities are mostly fine though)
- S6 still hasn't received the Marshmallow update (though with Verizon updates took just as long), so software updates are slow
- speeds are not as fast as Verizon, I usually average 10% slower than when I was on Verizon (personally it doesn't feel significantly slower to be annoying)
Switched couple months ago and couldn't be happier. For what I was paying verizon for a locked phone for myself I get two unlocked phones for myself and the little lady with tmobile. with binge on and free streaming music I barely have any other data use 2.1gig last month. my average for the music alone is 8gig and that doesn't count anymore . And i get better signal at home ! Verizon unusable in my house tmobile is better plus can use wifi calling so now thinking can finally drop landline.
Switch as quickly as you can and don't look back
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No service at the house? haha. That's not looking good for T-Mobile
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I live in a brick and stucko house. No one gets great service in the house regardless of provider.
T-Mobile's service is much better with a band 12 phone, like the S6. I was amazed by the significant reception improvement over my S4 (non-band 12). Even T-Mobile's old band 4 LTE signal is much better on the S6. I work in the center of an office building (1950's building with brick, stucko, and asbestos ) and I get amazing LTE reception with my S6, whereas my S4 got no reception.
Stick with Verizon if you travel a lot or are in rural areas. I live near Los Angeles, so reception is not a problem.
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Can you guys tell me the pros of moving to t-mobile vs sticking with verizon? My main motivation is the fact that Verizon keeps selling locked bootloader phones so I can't ever mod them. Seriously frustrating. Is it true that all of t-mobiles phones are unlockable or already come unlocked? Also what are the average LTE speeds you guys see when doing speed tests on the tmobile network?
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T-Mobile's connection and speeds aren't always reliable. I think Verizon is way better and you should stick with them if you had the money because I know I would. I'm going to go stock anyways because I want MM (no roms for that on S6 T-mo yet) and Samsung pay. Plus, some roms have apps that work a little differently (not a deal breaker, but annoying for me) and I cannot pickup calls sometimes (deal breaker, very frustrating).
I absolutely love tmobile. I like what the company is doing and most importantly there customer service. At one point a better service plan came out that was cheaper but still all of the same features... and they had zero issues switching it over. What company does that? Most will say its only avaliable to new customers.. not tmobile. Yes service can be limited in some area but they are still in the middle of switching off old 2g and replacing it with LTE. Major improvements in the past 6months. That all said no other carrier can match tmobile speeds at my home or work.
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If you travel a ton... stick with Verizon or wait another year.
I should add the new s7 has locked bootloader on tmobile so mods are limited... Aka no root yet.
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So here's my question. I'm considering the OnePlus 3T. I ordered the OnePlus 3 from Amazon to give it a test drive (and have since returned it). I noticed that most of the I was getting H speed on ATT.
Every other phone I've got (Moto X Pure) and Axon 7 (as well as my prior Nexus 6p) was regularly getting 4G or LTE in the same locations.
I'm assuming it's reasonable to assume this is a OnePlus issue.
Has anyone who has the 3T (or considering it) has a similar problem? Thanks.
I assume you're in the US? You might've gotten a phone built for another market, such as China. Also, your APN settings might've been wrong... I'm getting mostly 4G/4G+ on my 3T, which I believe is LTE on OxygenOS. I may swing by my local AT&T store to verify my SIM is a-okay.
Most of the resellers on Amazon/eBay buy devices from the Chinese market which, for the most part, have bands that are unsupported by US carriers. If you buy the correct model for the US, you should get good signal on ATT.
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Most of the resellers on Amazon/eBay buy devices from the Chinese market which, for the most part, have bands that are unsupported by US carriers. If you buy the correct model for the US, you should get good signal on ATT.
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False. Read the T-Mobile LTE thread. The issue is software based. It's affecting everyone.
I'm having no false read issues here in Seattle Region on T-Mobile. I also had someone attempt an AT&T SIM as well, no problems. It may have something to do with the "General Fixes" mentioned for 3.5.3.
I've got my OP3T on AT&T and on OxygenOS, it never shows an LTE icon. However, using LTE Discovery, it states I'm on LTE. I even get LTE B30 (2300 WCS) at work while my OP2 could barely keep a cellular connection. B30 is an LTE band that AT&T rolled out a year ago. Only a handful of phones support it, including the OP3 and OP3T.
EDIT: I'm seeing performance equal to or better than my previous phone.
Most importantly I don't have a good baseline to compare to so take this as an extra small grain of salt.
I thought things were fine but upon further investigation my speeds will not keep steady over 10mbs down. I haven't tried changing the apn or anything to correct it yet but according based on others I'm thinking it's software related and can hopefully be sorted out. I'm not giving up on it, for the cost, features, and quality of everything else I'm going to try some things.
I should mention I'm not in a city and my particular area hasn't always had the best speeds.
Using OP3T on AT&T
Never owning a OPO device I wondered about this too when I got my OP3T. I didn't know if this device had to show LTE to get LTE.
I didn't have any issues with data speeds but after reading about other people questioning this on the forums I decided to look into it. I downloaded an app and it showed my device was getting LTE even though it didn't say it up top (it shows 4G). I forgot what band it said I was getting. I didn't call AT&T at any time either.
*The speed test is from indoors and I wouldn't be surprised if I can get way better speeds out and about.
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False. Read the T-Mobile LTE thread. The issue is software based. It's affecting everyone.
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That thread refers to an issue that has been determined to be T-Mobile specific, likely to do with carrier aggregation and/or band 12 exclusively. AT&T does not use band 12, and CA works perfectly on AT&T including, as another poster mentioned below, band 30 which only is supported on a few phones.
mikochu said:
I've got my OP3T on AT&T and on OxygenOS, it never shows an LTE icon. However, using LTE Discovery, it states I'm on LTE. I even get LTE B30 (2300 WCS) at work while my OP2 could barely keep a cellular connection. B30 is an LTE band that AT&T rolled out a year ago. Only a handful of phones support it, including the OP3 and OP3T.
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The current version of OOS on the 3T doesn't use the "LTE" label, it uses 4G to denote LTE, and 4G+ for LTE CA.
charlieb620 said:
False. Read the T-Mobile LTE thread. The issue is software based. It's affecting everyone.
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If you read the T-Mobile threads (one here and one on OnePlus forum) , then you'll see that the T-Mobile issue is only a T-Mobile issue. I'm in that thread just to double-check that the fix they made for the T-Mobile problem didn't screw up anything on other carriers and it didn't. It's not affecting everyone, but it was affecting some T-Mobile users, not ATT.
Also, a lot of people seem more upset by symbology (which icon LTE, 4G, 4G+, etc) is used than their actual speeds. I'm not seeing what difference that makes unless you'd rather have a certain icon than speed. No doubt that's a simple fix or even an xposed type of fix.
Oh yeah: I should've also mentioned that I'm an att 3t user with LTE speeds about double that of my prior phone, a galaxy (a current one). I'm in a fringe area but getting ~20Mbps down, 5-15 up. My "icon" constantly is switching from 4g to 4g+.
hachamacha said:
If you read the T-Mobile threads (one here and one on OnePlus forum) , then you'll see that the T-Mobile issue is only a T-Mobile issue. I'm in that thread just to double-check that the fix they made for the T-Mobile problem didn't screw up anything on other carriers and it didn't. It's not affecting everyone, but it was affecting some T-Mobile users, not ATT.
Also, a lot of people seem more upset by symbology (which icon LTE, 4G, 4G+, etc) is used than their actual speeds. I'm not seeing what difference that makes unless you'd rather have a certain icon than speed. No doubt that's a simple fix or even an xposed type of fix.
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charlieb620 said:
False. Read the T-Mobile LTE thread. The issue is software based. It's affecting everyone.
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Huh? It's not affecting ATT users in the USA.
I can confirm it is affecting AT&T users as well - there have been many reported instances on this site, on the OnePlus forums, on Reddit, and on other sites of not being able to get LTE on AT&T. Last week, I chatted with AT&T tech support and they told me the issue is on their end with the network. They need to add the IMEI ranges for our OP3Ts to their database. They told me that they should have the problem fixed by December 5th (today); so far it doesn't seem fixed yet but I'm going to keep waiting another day or two before I contact them again.
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I can confirm it is affecting AT&T users as well - there have been many reported instances on this site, on the OnePlus forums, on Reddit, and on other sites of not being able to get LTE on AT&T. Last week, I chatted with AT&T tech support and they told me the issue is on their end with the network. They need to add the IMEI ranges for our OP3Ts to their database. They told me that they should have the problem fixed by December 5th (today); so far it doesn't seem fixed yet but I'm going to keep waiting another day or two before I contact them again.
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Let me know how it goes if you decide to contact them again. I'm getting good speeds at 4G, but not quite what LTE on AT&T offer.
MaxG338 said:
I can confirm it is affecting AT&T users as well - there have been many reported instances on this site, on the OnePlus forums, on Reddit, and on other sites of not being able to get LTE on AT&T. Last week, I chatted with AT&T tech support and they told me the issue is on their end with the network. They need to add the IMEI ranges for our OP3Ts to their database. They told me that they should have the problem fixed by December 5th (today); so far it doesn't seem fixed yet but I'm going to keep waiting another day or two before I contact them again.
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Yes, but you can actually reply in complete sentences so I have to take you more seriously . ;
I somehow managed to post that before I'd really typed anything (which might have been a good idea damnit!). Anyway: I think that some of us (almost regardless of carrier) have just popped in our known good SIM cards and then had trouble free service , and fast speeds. It's possible that if I had went over to ATT and gotten a new SIM, that I'd be in some hellhole range of people that are having problems, but isn't that a carrier based problem?
Anyway, thanks.
hachamacha said:
... but isn't that a carrier based problem?
Anyway, thanks.
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Exactly. There are two different issues. The T-Mobile band 12/CA issue, which OnePlus is addressing via a software update of some sort, and the AT&T provisioning issue, which AT&T needs to address. Consensus is that if you use an already LTE provisioned SIM card you'll be fine; if you need a new SIM card and give them your OnePlus IMEI, you will not be provisioned with LTE. This is the same issue that the original OnePlus (and many other non AT&T unlocked phones) had, there is a very lengthy thread on this subject over at the OP3 forum.
Also, with regards to 4G not getting LTE speeds...the "4G" and "4G+" icons on 3.5.3 on the 3T are LTE.
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Yes, but you can actually reply in complete sentences so I have to take you more seriously . ;
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There's a reason I'm majoring in journalism
skunkiechris said:
Exactly. There are two different issues. The T-Mobile band 12/CA issue, which OnePlus is addressing via a software update of some sort, and the AT&T provisioning issue, which AT&T needs to address. Consensus is that if you use an already LTE provisioned SIM card you'll be fine; if you need a new SIM card and give them your OnePlus IMEI, you will not be provisioned with LTE. This is the same issue that the original OnePlus (and many other non AT&T unlocked phones) had, there is a very lengthy thread on this subject over at the OP3 forum.
Also, with regards to 4G not getting LTE speeds...the "4G" and "4G+" icons on 3.5.3 on the 3T are LTE.
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Correct, my old phone had a micro sim card so I had to go to the AT&T store to get the newer nano sim for my 3T. The rep who helped me probably inadvertently messed something up lol.
skunkiechris said:
Exactly. There are two different issues. The T-Mobile band 12/CA issue, which OnePlus is addressing via a software update of some sort, and the AT&T provisioning issue, which AT&T needs to address. Consensus is that if you use an already LTE provisioned SIM card you'll be fine; if you need a new SIM card and give them your OnePlus IMEI, you will not be provisioned with LTE. This is the same issue that the original OnePlus (and many other non AT&T unlocked phones) had, there is a very lengthy thread on this subject over at the OP3 forum.
Also, with regards to 4G not getting LTE speeds...the "4G" and "4G+" icons on 3.5.3 on the 3T are LTE.
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There's a reason I'm majoring in journalism
Correct, my old phone had a micro sim card so I had to go to the AT&T store to get the newer nano sim for my 3T. The rep who helped me probably inadvertently messed something up lol.
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i second this. i too had to change my sim card from micro to nano and after that is where i lost my LTE i believe. On att i only get H speeds, though i am a bit bothered for lack of highspeeds the reception service on my OP3T is excellent, i almost always have near full bars.
I read somewhere that after the 5th (today) ATT will correct some of the provisions for the OP3T, so im waiting till tomorrow to call them again to complain about the issue, if it doesn't correct itself.
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I read somewhere that after the 5th (today) ATT will correct some of the provisions for the OP3T, so im waiting till tomorrow to call them again to complain about the issue, if it doesn't correct itself.
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I know, I keep checking to see if it's fixed or not. Do you know if we have to restart our phones to see if they fixed it?
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I know, I keep checking to see if it's fixed or not. Do you know if we have to restart our phones to see if they fixed it?
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maybe read that hard reset will be needed but i am unsure. and cannot confirm, myself.