Noob - Introductions

Not only am I a Noob, I'm also not Tech Savvy.
I'm 68, and a motorcycle rider.
I bought my first Smartphone recently, been avoiding them for years.
I purchased a new Fairing for my bike, which comes with a radio installed,
and I needed a phone for Bluetooth & streaming.
I reside in New England.

rickybobb said:
Not only am I a Noob, I'm also not Tech Savvy.
I'm 68, and a motorcycle rider.
I bought my first Smartphone recently, been avoiding them for years.
I purchased a new Fairing for my bike, which comes with a radio installed,
and I needed a phone for Bluetooth & streaming.
I reside in New England.
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Best technology malls in shanghai(china)?

Next month I m going to china with my family. I've never been to china before.
I want to know the malls which have the technology stuff like PPCs, PPCPEs etc. I am thinking to buy an HTC alpine there(my sister is asking for it. she needs a fast PPC with loads of RAM.she rejected my htc wizard )
So, any great technology malls in china you guys know ??
i dont know about the tech malls, but a blueangel will beat an alpine anyday
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i dont know about the tech malls, but a blueangel will beat an alpine anyday
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He he. I have owned BA twice till now. But,it has always been little unfortunate for me. It is cursed to be doomed on the 30th day after its purchase. The first time I had bought it, it was smashed by my friend in our fights(I bricked his nokia 9500 ). Second time, on its 30th day of purchase, my mom spilled tea over it.
Interestingly, both the incidents happened right after 30days had passed
I have used alpine for some 60days and it was the best PPC I ever used. The speed of it was just too good and everything just opened in less than a second
You ought to check out with guys in China.. as probably units you get from China are likely to be in Chinese OS (as what you get mostly in PCs)
I've only been to Beijing, but I advise, when you go shopping, look for the more reputable shops, not the streetside/stalls. They will try and sell you an Alpine...but with counterfeit accessories like the memory card and battery. If the SD Card looks weird, don't buy it, as it's probably a fake. It may test out fine, but it will not usually work. If the salesman is particularly insistent about selling it to you, and keeps lowering the price, it's probably fake aswell.

AT&T and the Tilt

Does anyone know why AT&T discontinued the Tilt?
I'm looking at getting one but before I do I'd like to find out if anyone may know why their not offering them anymore. Thanks.
the tilt came out october of 07 its now 09 and the fuse is also out for att now. i work in customer care for att and its just the tilts time to go. if u are still looking for a tilt i have 2 i am looking to sell at least one of them pm me an offer if ur interested.
Thanks gimini. I thought it may have had something to do with the fuse but just wanted to make sure. I've found one to get but I'll pm you if it falls through.
aeh8 said:
Does anyone know why AT&T discontinued the Tilt?
I'm looking at getting one but before I do I'd like to find out if anyone may know why their not offering them anymore. Thanks.
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From what I read, they were just yanking them out of the AT$T stores, but they would still be made and available in online stores.
yea i saw on att.com that you can still buy them online only
as of about 9:30 EST today the tilt is nolonger avalible via systemX and only a very limited number of refurbs avalible on line.
p.s. systemX is the replenishment system for AT&T
Walmart.com has them in stock and pretty cheap with the contract renewal.
AT&T had announced some time ago that it is moving to ONE OS for smartphones, and that it has chosen Symbian, with the possible exception of the iPhone/OSX.
Any one know if this is actually going to happen, and when? Cuz it means of course, no more WinMo phones, no more PalmOS, isn't even clear if they'll keep RIM...
neurocutie said:
AT&T had announced some time ago that it is moving to ONE OS for smartphones, and that it has chosen Symbian, with the possible exception of the iPhone/OSX.
Any one know if this is actually going to happen, and when? Cuz it means of course, no more WinMo phones, no more PalmOS, isn't even clear if they'll keep RIM...
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that would be stupid. i really hope they dont.
neurocutie said:
AT&T had announced some time ago that it is moving to ONE OS for smartphones, and that it has chosen Symbian, with the possible exception of the iPhone/OSX.
Any one know if this is actually going to happen, and when? Cuz it means of course, no more WinMo phones, no more PalmOS, isn't even clear if they'll keep RIM...
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Good possibility...
AT&T is to Reduce Smartphone OS Support to one or two platforms
Posted by SK in December 8th, 2008
http://www.cellphonesmarket.com/news/tag/att-symbian/
AT&T is looking to reduce the number of phone operating systems supported by its own-brand phones to just one or two platforms. Speaking at the Symbian Partner Conference, Roger Smith, director of next-generation services at AT&T, warned that Java based handsets had been problematic, mainly due to in-house management issues - and hinted that Symbian
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More info on this..
http://techblips.dailyradar.com/story/at_t_hopes_for_single_smart_phone_os/
AT&T dreams of single smartphone OS, will probably keep dreaming
Published 12/5/2008 by Darren Murph at Engadget Mobile
... Okay, so we fully understand that it would make life a lot easier on AT&T if every smartphone on its network used the same operating system, but we're not so sure we like the idea of losing the whole "ability to choose." Speaking at the Symbian Partner Event in San Francisco, AT&T's Roger Smith (director of next generation services, data product realization at AT&T) reportedly stated that he wanted to "standardize on a single operating system for AT&T-branded smartphones as part of a dramatic consolidation of its mobile platforms over the next few years." ...
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AT&T dreams of single smartphone OS, will probably keep dreaming
Published 12/5/2008 by Darren Murph at Engadget
Okay, so we fully understand that it would make life a lot easier on AT&T if every smartphone on its network used the same operating system, but we're not so sure we like the idea of losing the whole "ability to choose." Speaking at the Symbian Partner Event in San Francisco, AT&T's Roger Smith (director of next generation services, data product realization at AT&T) reportedly stated that he wanted to "standardize on a single operating system for AT&T-branded smartphones as part of a dramatic consolidation of its mobile platforms over the next few years." ...
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Single OS for smartphones desired by AT&T, possibly Symbian
Published 12/6/2008 by James at Phones Review
... Basically, AT&T believes the smartphone will become the largest portion of mobile phones connecting to their network come 2014, and wishes to avoid platform fragmentation which makes it difficult to develop mobile apps. Speaking at the Symbian Partner Event in San Francisco, Roger Smith, director of next generation services, data product realization at AT&T said that Symbian is very credible and a likely candidate to become the singular operating system. Full article here ...
I just picked up a new one on ebay lastnight for $150
Well I need to return my tilt for a new one.. well prob refurnished (hardware problems).. whats the odds of me getting a NEW Fuse as a upgrade??
gogorob said:
Well I need to return my tilt for a new one.. well prob refurnished (hardware problems).. whats the odds of me getting a NEW Fuse as a upgrade??
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Read here for your chances
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444726

What company would you get rid off the planet?

I made this thread because I'm pretty sure other threads are made of this topic but I wanted to create a newer one since all these new products are coming out.
I would choose Apple because:
1)Selling over priced, under powered (for the price) computers that have no customization (well barely and I mean like building your own)
2) Changing the animal on their OS, add a .1, add features that can come in an update, and calling it a whole new OS.
3) Selling the iPhone and making the iPad (the iPod touch seems like the only good Apple Product). They don't know what the term "smart" phone means. I mean no multi tasking, boring, un-creative UI. The features in the iPhone/iPad may have been ground breaking 7 years ago but not today.
4) How it makes the fanboyz/fangirlz go crazy about the product because they hypnotized them about how they are good and the other companies are evil. The fanboyz/fangirlz are mad because they spent a lot of cash on an over priced piece of doo-doop) and they have to unleash their anger on past mistakes of another company while forgetting about the new features in the product today.
I like only one thing of apple products and mostly their software for computers: They have pretty good video editing software and that is pretty much it.
Unleash your inner fanboy/fangirl and just rant.
Apple has done a lot for the world though, with the ipod influencing other MP3 players, as well as showing that the linux based operating system can be used in mainstream media. I'd go more with AT&T and verizon mostly because of the monopolies that they have on the cell phone market right now. I'd rather have no contract phones which allow a pay per use plan. Either that or Walmart because of their screwing consumers.
All the oil/petroleum companys!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AndroidNoobie said:
I made this thread because I'm pretty sure other threads are made of this topic but I wanted to create a newer one since all these new products are coming out.
I would choose Apple because:
1)Selling over priced, under powered (for the price) computers that have no customization (well barely and I mean like building your own)
2) Changing the animal on their OS, add a .1, add features that can come in an update, and calling it a whole new OS.
3) Selling the iPhone and making the iPad (the iPod touch seems like the only good Apple Product). They don't know what the term "smart" phone means. I mean no multi tasking, boring, un-creative UI. The features in the iPhone/iPad may have been ground breaking 7 years ago but not today.
4) How it makes the fanboyz/fangirlz go crazy about the product because they hypnotized them about how they are good and the other companies are evil. The fanboyz/fangirlz are mad because they spent a lot of cash on an over priced piece of doo-doop) and they have to unleash their anger on past mistakes of another company while forgetting about the new features in the product today.
I like only one thing of apple products and mostly their software for computers: They have pretty good video editing software and that is pretty much it.
Unleash your inner fanboy/fangirl and just rant.
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I agree with you completely. Don't forget Quicktime (terrible UI and runs background services), iTunes (way to lock up music, Apple), iPods (same dial, same disk space, half the price elsewhere), and the iPod touch (what's the purpose or purchasing a stand-alone portable media wifi device again? that must come in real handy on the beach, in clubs, bars, and everywhere else wifi doesn't exist).
Also, who can really respect a company that basically releases dumbed-down technology basically saying that their customers are slow and stupid and lack self-respect when it comes to not being able to customize their portable devices? Notice how in the Windows Phone 7 Series walk-through found on MSDN today, the president/manager of the project said, "If you buy the phone we are going to let you customize it."
Also, special mention for Verizon, who really has worked hard to rip off the average consumer.
verizon. worst company ever.
AT$T has to go. This is undoutedly the worst company in the world. They have their heads so far up Apple's ass they should be called Apple T$T.
They simply do not care that people hate them, they have no new phones, except updated Tilts and Diamonds. They have the absolute worst customer service
http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/...sumer-reports-best-cell-phone-service-survey/
Latest example: My wife and I split ( no big deal , long time coming ) she decided that she wanted to take the iPhone that I bought her and the Propel that I bought her son, both of which I had put on my account, and get her own acount with AT$T. Without any notice to me, AT$T allowed her to take the phones and signed her up to two new two year contracts, and as I only found out yesterday, charged me with $300 dollars in early termination fees. When I challenged them on this, they said that I can always continue to pay for the numbers until the contract runs out. I asked them , since they allowed her to take the phone off of my account, why don't they just terminate the contract.
They informed me that the contract was for the numbers not the handsets. And that who ever was using the handsets, was out of their control. They further said that the contracts are meant to offset the subsidizing of the phones. I clearly pointed out that holding me to the balance of the original contract for the phones and then signing them up to two new two year contracts for the same two phones, was " double dipping " and that any reasonable customer service rep who wanted to keep a 7 year customer with four phones on AT$T would see that by cancelling the two contracts, AT$T was not losing any money and had infact guaranteed themselves more money by signing the ex and her son to two new 2 year contracts.
At which point they continued their mantra " the contract was for the phone numbers, not the phones themselves. " At which point, I cancelled the two phones that I had that were out of contract. Put the ex and her son's # on suspended service for $9.99 a month until the contract expires. And now must make a decision on what to do with my iPhone in July when that contract runs out. In the last seven years, I have paid AT$T $ 10,000- $14,000 in connection fees, and some dope in their customer service dept is forcing me to go elsewhere over $300 in early termination fees that are being paid for by " double dipping " in another account. Stupidity like this has got to go.
Where would this company be if Steve Jobs decides to yank there heads out of his butt ?
Oh Yeah, iPhone, Mac Book, iPod touch, 2 iMacs, U2 iPod classic = Apple Fanboy here.
Everybody hates the people who " get it "
Rogers Wireless, which used to be Rogers AT&T. We're seeing a pattern here
Probably AT&T. AT&T has terrible service nearly everywhere, crappy customer service (moreso than most telcos), and poor overall selection of devices.
Ever since the iPhone was introduced, AT&T has basically given up on maintaining their network at a usable level. The worst is when you call their terrible customer service only to be greeted by a voice announcing that they are "home of the iPhone" before you actually get help. I don't hate the iPhone, I have a few of them in fact, but I hate how AT&T having exclusivity over the iPhone has led to them ignoring all other aspects of their company.
They've almost forgotten about Windows Mobile and have completely ignored Android and WebOS devices, instead opting for more feature phones, because we all need more $20 Nokias and Samsungs. AT&T stopped trying once they got exclusivity of the iPhone, figuring that they wouldn't have to actually get business by being good at what they do, but rather by forcing people into switching in order to get their desired device.
If you don't believe me about the terrible customer service, I have a story for you. For Christmas of 2009, my mother and sister wanted iPhone 3GSes to replace their aging original iPhones. My father I waited to go to the AT&T store until the night before, because one of the incompetent CS representatives we talked to over the phone said that the original iPhones would deactivate, and we didn't want them deactivated for very long, should they need their phones. However, this was untrue, meaning we had to wait in long lines on Christmas Eve when we could have bought the iPhones months ago with no negative effects
After we finally got served by a representative, we were told that the bill we had mailed out almost two weeks ago still hadn't been processed yet, and in order to pay the lower upgrade price instead of the full retail price (~$500), we would have to pay the bill at the store, and have the check we mailed out be credited to our account. After we did that, the lady sold us the iPhones, which seemed fine. Except it wasn't fine, since she upgraded of the iPhones on my father's account, instead of my mother's which was a pain to deal with when we bought my father an iPhone a few weeks later. After we finally got the iPhones and drove home, we immediately got a call from the AT&T store, letting us know that the woman who sold us the iPhones had forgotten to put one of them back in the box after activating it, meaning we had to drive back again and pick up the phone which they forgot. The moral of this story is that AT&T is a horrible company, and a good portion of their customer service representatives are incapable of doing their jobs properly or giving correct information.
I actually have a few more AT&T stories to share, but I think I'd probably run past the 10,000 character post limit were I to share them all
AT&T...I left them a few years ago because of their ripoff plans, iphonia, no customer support, etc.
No point mentioning any as basically every coporation would be on my hit list
Fallen Spartan said:
No point mentioning any as basically every coporation would be on my hit list
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This is true! I listed one, but could have easily listed hundreds!
I'm not against corporations in general; I'd love to take money from consumers to better myself. But I do have a problem with every Apple idiot thinking Apple is doing great when really they are just taking advantage of people without their own identities and morons.
Yesterday's closing stock prices:
Microsoft>$28.63
RIM ( Blackberry )>$70.40
Nokia>$13.35
Motorola>$7.05
Palm>$9.31
HTC Corp.>$9.65
Apple>$201.47
Wow, sure must be a lot of us idiot, identity lacking , morons, getting taken advantage of by Apple.
Down with Tootsie Roll Industries, Inc.!
denco7 said:
Yesterday's closing stock prices:
Microsoft>$28.63
RIM ( Blackberry )>$70.40
Nokia>$13.35
Motorola>$7.05
Palm>$9.31
HTC Corp.>$9.65
Apple>$201.47
Wow, sure must be a lot of us idiot, identity lacking , morons, getting taken advantage of by Apple.
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And don't forgot Google at $543!
galaxys said:
And don't forgot Google at $543!
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Lawlz. Apple got pwned. Google gets lot of money from gmail, gtalk, google maps, etc. Plus they put all that on their android phones too.
Apple
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denco7 said:
Yesterday's closing stock prices:
Microsoft>$28.63
RIM ( Blackberry )>$70.40
Nokia>$13.35
Motorola>$7.05
Palm>$9.31
HTC Corp.>$9.65
Apple>$201.47
Wow, sure must be a lot of us idiot, identity lacking , morons, getting taken advantage of by Apple.
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I'm hoping that this is sarcasm and that you realize that this is actually support against Apple's dominance. Stock prices for the most part are based on hype and a LACK of knowledge about a company. There's more idiots than smart people in the US, so a company like Apple should thrive. George W. Bush got elected twice. There are plenty of idiots around to think Apple is worth it.
A carpet die company somewhere in LA county. The XXXX told me to XXXX when I asked if they could sell me a smaller portion of carpet die for a smaller price.
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poetryrocksalot said:
A carpet die company somewhere in LA county. The XXXX told me to XXXX when I asked if they could sell me a smaller portion of carpet die for a smaller price.
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hahahahhahaa

Windows Phone 7 Marketing

Morning peeps,
just a mention, i'm quite amazed with the lack of marketing for the HD7.
Just walked into a o2 shop to confirm if the HD7 is still on for 21st Oct and the answer was YES. But there no HD7 pics or notice on the o2 shop front.... why?
2 days left and no advertising...
It was exactly the same last year with the release of the HD2 and I imagine it happens all the time with new phones.
Last year they released the HD2 without marketing online or in any of the UK shops, but by lunchtime they had sold out their stocks. It was the same story over at Vodaphone UK.
Remember, you're probably not the only person to have walked into the shop and asked for the HD7 and I can imagine demand will be high for the first few weeks. After that HTC will probably have more units made.
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It was exactly the same last year with the release of the HD2 and I imagine it happens all the time with new phones.
Last year they released the HD2 without marketing online or in any of the UK shops, but by lunchtime they had sold out their stocks. It was the same story over at Vodaphone UK.
Remember, you're probably not the only person to have walked into the shop and asked for the HD7 and I can imagine demand will be high for the first few weeks. After that HTC will probably have more units made.
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cool, but as i recall correctly, IPHONE 4 was marketed much better and well before its release. why not just copy it
I agree, Apple are good at that. MS doesn't have any real say over the OEMs and it is HTC supplying the devices to O2. HTC are also supplying several models on launch day, so I imagine they don't have all their factories making one model. AT the end pof the day we will never know.
Lets just hpe we don't have the hardware mess that was the iPhone antennae
So far here in the UK I haven't seen any advertising for Windows Phone 7. The only ads I've seen are ones I've found myself through reading about WP7 on sites like engadget and other tech news sites. If I was a member of Joe public, I'd have no clue it existed unless I'd actively been looking on Orange's website at phone upgrades.
Maybe I haven't been hanging around bus stops enough to see the advertising posters?
I agree I haven't seen anything either. I do recall knowing about the new iPhone 4 about a week before it was released, I think MS has missed the boat here.
The marketing of the features on this phone is truly a disappointment. My single favourite feature is the wireless sync. My brother always tells me hes jealous for that feature alone (he has an iphone 4). But most likely no one will hear about this and apple will introduce it in their next update and it will be the greatest thing that apple has done and all microsoft can do is sit there and say we had that first.

Hi from New Zealand

Hello all you good folks.
My name is Tony.
I'm in New Zealand. I'm a recently retired component level electronics technician, mainly specialized in two-way radio communication and some industrial equipment repairs.
I hadn't touched any Android device until a few weeks back when I bought an Android head unit for my housemate's car so I've had to blunder my way through setting it up and another one for a friend who saw the first one and wanted one the same. I'll be in the Android Head Unit part of this site picking the collective brains and hope not to incur the wrath of a couple of contributors there who I see are rather scathing of new arrivals. I have spent a considerable amount of time over recent weeks reading the threads there before deciding to create an account so some of the questions I had have been answered but there are some things I have not seen any mention of so far.
Feel free to ask me anything i haven't mentioned here.

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