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tbattery 0.60 i think it is always reads 12296
it read that with my OEM 1230 battery
it read that with my ECell 1350 battery
and now its reading that with my new 1600mAh Andida battery.
i just read someone else say the same
"Bought 1600mAh Andida battery.
tBattery shows the full mAh as 12296. what is that."
I would like to know of another app like tbattery to read the size/capacity of my battery if possible!!
not just how full it is in %
also so far with the 3 i have tested it seems that my OEM lasts the longest since I had charged it 7/8 times and it seemed to get better after a good few charges
the other 2 are new so not charged them a lot yet
but my ECell 1350mAh is on its way back, been talking to a lady from the company and since when i use that battery and my phone is charging via the wall or USB my phone overheats and the light flashes so she said to send it back, i also asked about why it reads as a 1230mAh with tbattery and she assured my that is as as 1350mAh capacity but now i have read that others say all their batteries read as a 1230mAh with tbattery!!
could of been just bad luck but it was also £2 more expensive than the 1600mAh i bought!!
also not sure if i should let them become empty as i have read someone say and then i have also read to charge when possible as the batteries prefer this so if its on 70% i should not wait, i should charge it!!!!
thanks in advance!!
Use battclock to display current, put the phone in a state where it always draws the same current continuously (i.e in flight mode, turn off auto dim and auto standby, full backlight), read current and time how long the phone holds from a full charge until it shuts off. That's the best you can do.
Capacity = displayed current * time in hours.
Chrisuk80 said:
tbattery 0.60 i think it is always reads 12296
it read that with my OEM 1230 battery
it read that with my ECell 1350 battery
and now its reading that with my new 1600mAh Andida battery.
i just read someone else say the same
"Bought 1600mAh Andida battery.
tBattery shows the full mAh as 12296. what is that."
I would like to know of another app like tbattery to read the size/capacity of my battery if possible!!
not just how full it is in %
also so far with the 3 i have tested it seems that my OEM lasts the longest since I had charged it 7/8 times and it seemed to get better after a good few charges
the other 2 are new so not charged them a lot yet
but my ECell 1350mAh is on its way back, been talking to a lady from the company and since when i use that battery and my phone is charging via the wall or USB my phone overheats and the light flashes so she said to send it back, i also asked about why it reads as a 1230mAh with tbattery and she assured my that is as as 1350mAh capacity but now i have read that others say all their batteries read as a 1230mAh with tbattery!!
could of been just bad luck but it was also £2 more expensive than the 1600mAh i bought!!
also not sure if i should let them become empty as i have read someone say and then i have also read to charge when possible as the batteries prefer this so if its on 70% i should not wait, i should charge it!!!!
thanks in advance!!
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kilrah said:
Use battclock to display current, put the phone in a state where it always draws the same current continuously (i.e in flight mode, turn off auto dim and auto standby, full backlight), read current and time how long the phone holds from a full charge until it shuts off. That's the best you can do.
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Hi Kilrah
To see how much of my battery is being used per hour I use batlog
what I am looking for is an app to show the capacity of my battery
since I have a 1230 OEM
an 1350 Ecell
and a 1600 andida
but with tbattery they all read as 1230mAh
so i need or should i say want an app just to see if these batteries are what I was told!!
just looked at batclock and that tells me how much of my battery is being used per hour but not the total capacity of my battery!!!
hi!
guys, when should i charge the Galaxy S battery to maximize his life?
In my old phone, i only charge it when the phone shuts down himself. It can run for 7 days with no problems until i need to charge again.
Should i do the same thing with Galaxy S battery?
Well, when i need to connect the phone to the PC using USB cable, it will charge anyway. Is it bad? Should i do it only when i know the battery needs to be charged (when it has low battery)?
any time you want
it should always be topped up, there is no memory effect
Some people say that we should charge when the phone has 25% or 30% of the battery. And every month we should make a complete charge and discharge.
Is this a good method to keep the battery ok?
best way is to cycle through 2 or 3 batteries
charge them full
then use them down until you get the warning, and change to new battery pack, then take the used battery to the charger
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733705
Although I don't really have any definite sources to back this up, I've read several places that Li-Ion and Li-Polymer batteries can (and even should) be charged as often as possible. You should avoid letting them run flat, apparently.
What is certain though, is that they themselves have no memory effect like NiCd and NiMh batteries have.
our SGS will nag you to death as soon as it reaches 10%, and it will constantly annoys you to charge the battery at 5%
so, no worry about running flat
Technically to maximize the life (ie. capacity) of a Li-ion battery you should charge to full when it gets down to 40%.
The cooler the ambient temperature the better - A Li-ion battery operating at 25 degrees C will lose 20% of its capacity in one year. Higher temperatures drastically increase this degradation.
Given that most people will move to a newer phone after 2 years or so, and spare batteries are cheap as chips, it doesn't make a whole lot of difference.
So, people say that we should charge the battery when it has 30-40% of the capacity.
But what is the thechnical explanation?
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that's exactly what i would like to know as well at 30%-40% will make the battery totally useless if that is true
might as well take the phone with a super long extension cold with you if that were true
LMAO
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best way is to cycle through 2 or 3 batteries
charge them full
then use them down until you get the warning, and change to new battery pack, then take the used battery to the charger
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733705
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I don't think that would be the best strategy, AFAIK (and read)
Li-ion packs prefer more frequent charges, even if after partial discharges, than full charge-discharge cycles.
Its also not good to store the pack fully charged. Best to store at 40% charge.
Following these 2 concepts, I imagine its better to charge the battery as often as possible, like every day, than to let it discharge until you get the warning.
Also, if you cycle through several packs, letting each one discharge almost completely, then charge it fully and move to a different pack like you suggested, that means you will be letting the battery unused at full charge for a longer period (the more packages you use, the longer the pack will stay stored at full charge).
Thats how I understand the behavior of those batteries. Just my 2 cents.
Paulo
I will say what the first reply said, charge as often as you feel you have time. Do not wait for any percentage of drain. There is no memory effect and yes about once a month do one full uninterrupted cycle. The point of which is to let the device's power management recalibrate where 0 (or thereabouts and 100% of the current fill are.
Cooler is better, this is also true.
All educated advice on Li-Ion batteries is that they remain healthier for longer the fuller they are, but the chemicals must be exercised occasionally, thus the full charge cycle in one go.
One charge cycle also actually counts over multiple charges, and not just uninterrupted ones. You can drain then charge 25% 4 times and that is counted as one cycle for these batteries.
I have always stuck to this advice since I learnt of it several years back and I find my batteries work better and longer than many people I know (who stick with drain, charge methods (lack of updated information).
i agree with nailerr
Simply charge it when you need to. It's better to have a fully charged battery when you need it, than run out of battery when an important call is coming through
So, the main reason to charge it with 30%-40% left is to avoid the battery heat too much?
I found this: h**p://batterycare.net/en/guide.html
It says more or less what you guys said here.
But you need to know that i always charge from 0% to 100% my old phone. It is 4 years old and it has no problems with the battery. It can run up to 7 days without any charge... Looks like charge it that way is not so bad anyway i guess...
First post here, be easy on me. I love this Nexus S, my first android phone, but man this battery issue has really bothered me. I would wake up in the morning, take my phone off the charger and immediately be at 96%. After 15 minutes of checking emails and surfing, I would be below 90% by the time I got to work an hour later. I was spending half the day charging my battery, so I decided to order 2 OEM batteries and a wall charger off Ebay.
Well little I did I know that this would solve two problems. First, the wall charger charges the batteries to 100% and provides significantly more life. For some reason the phone does not let the battery truly get to 100%. Second, when I get home from work or wherever, I can just pop in another battery and be fully charged again. Now I don't have to sit and worry about charging my battery all the dang time, and my batteries are lasting much longer to boot using the wall charger. I am not sure I can post links yet, so what I ordered was an M9P wall charger for like $10 and a couple extra OEM batteries for $10/per on Ebay. I ordered from US sellers so I didnt have to wait weeks also. You might be able to find cheaper if you order from a hong kong seller. Anyway, I hope this helps someone as frustrated as me.
This has been posted MANY MANY times.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882679
No trickle charge is applied because lithium-ion is unable to absorb overcharge. A continuous trickle charge above 4.05V/cell would causes plating of metallic lithium that could lead to instabilities and compromise safety. Instead, a brief topping charge is provided to compensate for the small self-discharge the battery and its protective circuit consume. … Typically, the charge kicks in when the open terminal voltage drops to 4.05V/cell and turns off at a high 4.20V/cell.
There is a whole lot more info on that site, but I’ll sum up the excerpt, if you continually charge a Lithium Ion battery, it will degrade, and worst case explode, but hey, at least it looks cool when it does.
Just don’t end up like others have, for example, a Chinese man who took his phone off the charger, put it in his pocket, and then it exploded. To read a little more about that, check out EnGadget, if you want to see the phone, Tech-Ex. Here’s another one, no one was killed, but it burst into flames, over on PCWorld.
http://www.ziggy471.com/2011/01/02/overcharging-batteries/
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IMO. I rather have it sit at 95% than to have my phone catch on fire. Better safe than sorry.
I've been charging my mobile devices to 100% for years with no issues. I'm not too worried about it since I don't mod my phone. All I wanted to do was have a battery that lasts and I now have that. Thank you.
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First, the wall charger charges the batteries to 100% and provides significantly more life.
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Have you actually measured this, or is it just a "gut feeling"?
Now I don't have to sit and worry about ...
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There's an app medication for that ...
in the end charging via USB/PC gets a fuller charge because its more of a trickle, though it can be dangerous
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Have you actually measured this, or is it just a "gut feeling"?
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The battery level reads a full 100% when I plug the fully charged battery in. I just changed battery again this morning.
slowz3r said:
in the end charging via USB/PC gets a fuller charge because its more of a trickle, though it can be dangerous
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From what I am seeing and how much longer my battery is lasting, I am getting a fuller charge and WAY longer battery life charging batteries in the wall charger. I had the same issue as many others with this phone. The battery wouldn't charge to 100% and general battery life is pretty poor. I thought my phone was bad so I exchanged it and the battery life was identical.
I recommend everyone who questions my results, if you have a spare $20 and are sick of the poor battery performance of this phone to get a wall charger and spare OEM battery off Ebay or wherever. Theories are nice and everyone has one but I'll take real world results over theories any day.
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First post here, be easy on me. I love this Nexus S, my first android phone, but man this battery issue has really bothered me. I would wake up in the morning, take my phone off the charger and immediately be at 96%. After 15 minutes of checking emails and surfing, I would be below 90% by the time I got to work an hour later. I was spending half the day charging my battery, so I decided to order 2 OEM batteries and a wall charger off Ebay.
Well little I did I know that this would solve two problems. First, the wall charger charges the batteries to 100% and provides significantly more life. For some reason the phone does not let the battery truly get to 100%. Second, when I get home from work or wherever, I can just pop in another battery and be fully charged again. Now I don't have to sit and worry about charging my battery all the dang time, and my batteries are lasting much longer to boot using the wall charger. I am not sure I can post links yet, so what I ordered was an M9P wall charger for like $10 and a couple extra OEM batteries for $10/per on Ebay. I ordered from US sellers so I didnt have to wait weeks also. You might be able to find cheaper if you order from a hong kong seller. Anyway, I hope this helps someone as frustrated as me.
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Battery life is actually pretty good on this phone. Try owning the evo. I never seen a phone with worst battery life.
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From what I am seeing and how much longer my battery is lasting, I am getting a fuller charge and WAY longer battery life charging batteries in the wall charger. I had the same issue as many others with this phone. The battery wouldn't charge to 100% and general battery life is pretty poor. I thought my phone was bad so I exchanged it and the battery life was identical.
I recommend everyone who questions my results, if you have a spare $20 and are sick of the poor battery performance of this phone to get a wall charger and spare OEM battery off Ebay or wherever. Theories are nice and everyone has one but I'll take real world results over theories any day.
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Hey Turbodroid,
Can't find this wall charger of which you speak. If you can't post a link, please give more info on it so I can search for it. That and the batteries as well.
Thanks
ClrDaLane said:
Hey Turbodroid,
Can't find this wall charger of which you speak. If you can't post a link, please give more info on it so I can search for it. That and the batteries as well.
Thanks
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I can't post links yet, but I sent you a PM. On Ebay, search for M9P Charger and the only result that comes up is the one you want. Then search for OEM Battery Nexus S and pick whatever one you want.
EDIT - Here are the links I used
Charger - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150546613705&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
OEM Battery - http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-OEM-GENUINE...199674?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item20b6d2767a
turbodroid said:
From what I am seeing and how much longer my battery is lasting, I am getting a fuller charge and WAY longer battery life charging batteries in the wall charger.
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"WAY longer battery life"? Really really? I'm having some trouble believing this. The standard battery is 1500mAh. Are the extra batteries the same capacity? Because we are talking about something around 4-6% more power here.
This is either confirmation bias or blatant advertising.
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Fun fact: These two listings are from different sellers, but both write "Samusng" instead of "Samsung".
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150546613705&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/M9P-Battery-Charger-Samusng-Google-Nexus-S-/180611094933
shrivelfig said:
"WAY longer battery life"? Really really? I'm having some trouble believing this. The standard battery is 1500mAh. Are the extra batteries the same capacity? Because we are talking about something around 4-6% more power here.
This is either confirmation bias or blatant advertising.
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Fun fact: These two listings are from different sellers, but both write "Samusng" instead of "Samsung".
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150546613705&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/M9P-Battery-Charger-Samusng-Google-Nexus-S-/180611094933
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Obviously i'm not advertising, I am just posting my observations. My battery is lasting several hours longer than it did before under similar use. Right now I'm going on 6.5hrs of light use and I'm still at 81%. The OEM batteries I bought show the exact same part # as the one that came in the phone, but say 1440mah instead of 1500. I'm not observing any difference in how long they last compared to the original battery as today I am on the 1440 one.
I've been in the IT field for 18+ years. I know the difference between real results and 'confirmation bias'. These are real results I have experienced. You are more than welcome to share yours if you choose to spend $20 and duplicate what I did.
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My battery is lasting several hours longer than it did before under similar use.
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I don't believe that unless your wonder-charger is literally cooking the batteries to death by some serious over-charging.
Right now I'm going on 6.5hrs of light use and I'm still at 81%. The OEM batteries I bought show the exact same part # as the one that came in the phone, but say 1440mah instead of 1500.
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So, the original battery to 1500mAh, charged to 96% in the phone would give ... 1440mAh. And range anxiety.
But the extra batteries, charged to 100% in the wonder-charger would give ... 1440mAh. And a peaceful feeling.
Yeah, I don't really see the "WAY longer battery life" here. If those 4-6% extra charge gives "several hours longer" then a full charge would be good for a couple of days of use anyway. And yet you were "spending half the day charging your battery". There's something odd about your story. The numbers don't really add up.
I've been in the IT field for 18+ years.
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I don't care if you're Isaac Newton. If you're starting to wave credentials and diplomas around, then this will be nothing more than a pissing contest. If that is what you want, then you win. Here, have an internet.
I know the difference between real results and 'confirmation bias'. These are real results I have experienced. You are more than welcome to share yours if you choose to spend $20 and duplicate what I did.
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No thanks. I have that exact same charger, and an extra original battery. If that charger actually makes that much of a difference, I don't want to cook my spare battery to death with it.
But feel free to back your claims by some real numbers taken from, you know, objective tests. One battery charged in the phone, the other in the wonder-charger. Then do the exact same thing (play music or whatever) until the batteries hit 15% remaining. Then post the elapsed times here.
Your condescending tone isn't worth my breath. My results are my results and I wished to share them with other people having battery issues and what I did to resolve them. I will continue 'cooking' my $10 batteries to a full charge and having a phone last several hours longer than it did before I started 'cooking'. You can do whatever with yours. Good luck to ya buddy.
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Your condescending tone isn't worth my breath. My results are my results and I wished to share them with other people having battery issues and what I did to resolve them. I will continue 'cooking' my $10 batteries to a full charge and having a phone last several hours longer than it did before I started 'cooking'. You can do whatever with yours. Good luck to ya buddy.
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You know this isn't your blog or twitter feed to promote what you're doing.
Just like what you said, you're new to XDA so I wouldn't be too fond on trusting you either because you haven't been around too long.
I'll continue to stick to my battery. Grats on your long battery.
I go a full day with heavy use on my stock battery. Not sure what your problem is. Unless you can put up some real numbers though, this thread is not worth anyone's time.
After ordering both an OEM battery and the M9P charger I can confirm this.
I don't have screenshots yet, but The stock battery and the replacement OEM batteries I ordered. Function at around 4-6 hours more on the wall charger. With the stock charger charging my stock battery, I was seeing around 16-19hours with heavy use(phone and phone+bluetooth/text/web/youtube) with the M9P charger charging the battery, I have seen roughly a 4-6 hour improvement in battery life depending upon the usage change(i.e if i'm playing angry bird or NFS Shift along with other normal stuff)
I am, however, convinced the pulse charging vs. trickle charging done by the stock charger won't shorten the battery life. Plating will be come a real problem later on down the line, but with any smartphone, I don't expect to keep a battery longer than a year with my use before i either replace the phone or the battery.
If you guys want battery history shots, or whatever you might need to to help you get a better picture of what's going on, please let me know. I'd be happy to provide them.
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After ordering both an OEM battery and the M9P charger I can confirm this.
I don't have screenshots yet, but The stock battery and the replacement OEM batteries I ordered. Function at around 4-6 hours more on the wall charger. With the stock charger charging my stock battery, I was seeing around 16-19hours with heavy use(phone and phone+bluetooth/text/web/youtube) with the M9P charger charging the battery, I have seen roughly a 4-6 hour improvement in battery life depending upon the usage change(i.e if i'm playing angry bird or NFS Shift along with other normal stuff)
I am, however, convinced the pulse charging vs. trickle charging done by the stock charger won't shorten the battery life. Plating will be come a real problem later on down the line, but with any smartphone, I don't expect to keep a battery longer than a year with my use before i either replace the phone or the battery.
If you guys want battery history shots, or whatever you might need to to help you get a better picture of what's going on, please let me know. I'd be happy to provide them.
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Thanks for confirming my results. I was very displeased with the battery life of this phone, but since I went to the wall charger and just swapping batteries, I am getting a full 24hrs use and still have 10-20% left when I swap before work every morning. All in all a pretty cheap investment for the gains.
I am not seeing any noticeable difference between the 1440mah and 1500mah batteries either.
Just wanted to post my experience about battery life. It lasts almost two days (I switch off my phone for six hours every night). It wouldn't charge more than 95-96% every time. And it took really long time to charge too, with the oem charger. And then I tried my wife's Nokia charger, which is also 5V output but 1200mA instead of 700mA the oem is. And charged it turned on. And there it was! A bit less charging time, and for the first time it said 100% charged. That happened the last 6 charges with the Nokia charger. I hope I am not damaging the battery with what I'm doing. I can't say it lasts more than before. Nothing noticable. But at least it's fully charged and it doesn't take all day to charge.
i get 100% everytime when i unplug it will either drop to 97% or to 96% but will still last a whole day of use. i dont charge my battery unless it turns red with the X or till it shuts itself off.
Has anyone tried this GOLD 2430MAH BUSINESS BATTERY FOR DELL STREAK MINI 5 battery here? (Just check it out on ebay, i can't link it because i'm a new user)
Wondering if its worth getting it or if I should just get a cheaper pack with a charger and 3x 1800mAh batteries? Mainly looking for an extra battery to take with me on long car trips so I can use the phone more like a tablet, but I wouldn't hate having a longer lasting battery for daily use either and then using the stock battery as my extra.
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Has anyone tried this GOLD 2430MAH BUSINESS BATTERY FOR DELL STREAK MINI 5 battery here? (Just check it out on ebay, i can't link it because i'm a new user)
Wondering if its worth getting it or if I should just get a cheaper pack with a charger and 3x 1800mAh batteries? Mainly looking for an extra battery to take with me on long car trips so I can use the phone more like a tablet, but I wouldn't hate having a longer lasting battery for daily use either and then using the stock battery as my extra.
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this looks interesting..one thing good about it , is that is the same size as the original dell battery.
I think its a fake capacity, the largest capacity that fits as standard size offered by a decent battery manufacturer, Mugen Power is 1800mah, and if you read the threads here, there is a 2400mah extended battery that has to use a custom battery cover because the battery is twice the depth of the standard battery.
So, i think you will find its not really a 2430mah battery, but a 1800mah battery at best.
if it seems too good to be true...
The best bet is to get one of those external battery packs with 3000-6000mah and a spare cable.
Also be agressive in your control of screen brightness and data use
If you read the feedbacks of that seller on eBay. There are heaps of negative feedbacks from buyers calling him a CON.
I bought off amazon since it had to be shipped to India... think there was only 1 seller in Amazon and he seems genuine.
There's a point with batteries where to make them any more powerful you must make them bigger. If fitting 2430ma into an 1800ma package was possible Mugen would have done it, so yes the rating is a lie.
REF: Gold Battery 2430mAh on eBay...
Total fake and ripoff!! ...so dont be wasting your money...
Here, read "all about it" from my experience in another parallel forae - "conclusion" after testing, on post #21: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305779
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Has anyone tried this GOLD 2430MAH BUSINESS BATTERY FOR DELL STREAK MINI 5 battery here? (Just check it out on ebay, i can't link it because i'm a new user)
Wondering if its worth getting it or if I should just get a cheaper pack with a charger and 3x 1800mAh batteries? Mainly looking for an extra battery to take with me on long car trips so I can use the phone more like a tablet, but I wouldn't hate having a longer lasting battery for daily use either and then using the stock battery as my extra.
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Sorry. Thought you asked for the regular 2400mah.
hi, i bought this battery 2 mounth ago and my phone authonomy is double now. so dont coment if you dodnt try!
Do dell sell them?
Probably a con, but what the heck… I just purchased it. If it’s not 'as stated', I’ll report the bugger.
could keep us posted about this, i looked at the seller's feedback and seems it is fake but wondering if that is true.
The Americans have a saying "You can't put a quart in a pint pot" and that applies to battery power as well. Don't waste your money.
Irritatingly, battery capacity is only shown on the battery itself and not in the device’s battery info. So, is it really 2430mah? Don’t know. But there IS a difference. The 1530mah stock battery ran out of juice alarmingly quickly – like falling off a cliff - when at 30-40%, yet ‘Business Battery’ allows heavy use (downloads, browsing, video… etc) right down to single digits. So now I can use Streak much more (I’d say several hours more of constant use) when battery level is below 50% without worrying if it’s going to suddenly die on me. No gain between 100-50%, though.
I was prepared to slag this off, but from my experience it’s genuinely longer-lasting, especially at low battery levels. How long the battery itself will last only time will tell.
I’m not prepared to test it against Mugen’s 1800mah and spend near 30 quid (plus £18 p&p) in the process.
I've read elsewhere that the cheap Chinese batteries often don't report the available power in as many steps as a 'proper' one does, so they appear to fall slower.
I don't know how old your Dell battery is but it might not be as good as it used to be when new.
Yep, I had to replace the Dell battery (after about 10 months use) because over the past week it became completely unstable – dropping to 70% after 30min use, suddenly back up to 95%, and plummeting from then on. But the stock battery right from the start was always weakest when two-thirds empty, and it drained juice even on standby. Last night it was 100% or ‘fully charged’ for over 3 hours (mostly on standby and some light doc editing)… that had never happened before.
The thing is actually stamped ‘made in Japan’… aren’t Japanese products supposed to be expensive? Looks suspect, but whatever. If it becomes unstable after a month or two then sure, I’ll invest in a nice new Mugen or Dell replacement. But as of now I’m fairly content with a £13 Ecell batt.
Got one of these last week, & have put it through a few recharge cycles etc, unfortunately, it's no better than the stock battery
Oh well, it was worth a try..
As with all cheap batteries it has a short life - no more than 2 or 3 months before it starts to rapidly drain. As a temporary and inexpensive solution it's fine, but don’t expect long-lasting quality.
For the last few years I've been reading that it's best to charge your battery at around 30-40% up to 80 or 85%.
Despite this possibly being the best practice, I don't see much point in paying for a $1200+ with a 4100mah battery and only using 40-50% of it's capacity.
So do you charge at around 10% and then go up to a hundred?
Generally I charge when I need to. I like to be topped up to a 100% when I leave the house. Maybe this isn't best practice. I could wait until it get to about 20% but I am wary about using all the battery cycles up.
PLUS I doubt you're going to get 6-7 out SOT if you charge at around 30 or 40%.
So what do you guys do with your s10e, 10s or s10 +?
Charge it whenever. Why the heck limit myself to 60% (say from 20-80% when even my usage pattern won't cause the battery to wear down to 80% capacity over that same time frame by my charging methods?
I also don't tend to keep my phones for more than a year, so wear level doesn't really affect me much
There is no way to "charge it best". Just use it and charge it when needed.
People take out of date "battery knowledge" from the NiCAD battery days and think that modern batteries develop "memories" and things and that hasn't been the case in decades... Just use it and don't worry about it. A battery is only gonna last 2 years at best anyways, so who cares if you shorten that by 2 months?
I normally charge my S10 from 25% to 90%.
The battery of my previous S7 Edge started suffering after almost a year and a half because I used to always keep it charging overnight.
If you don't intend to keep using your phone for more than a year, then don't limit charging your phone. Even in the case it wears off after a year, you can get your battery replaced by Samsung and start fresh again.
I charge mine around 20-30% all the way to 100% . Then unplugged it whenever I need to.
Is there a good "battery charge limit" app that doesn't require root or Magisk? I used Battery Charge Limit (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slash.batterychargelimit&hl=en_US) and it works great, but requires root privilege. It allows you to set upper and lower limits for charging, so you don't overcharge or let your battery drain.
Batteries don't overcharge. They hit 100% and then trickle charge...
Li-Ion batteries are durable and easy to maintain, you can't overcharge them and also the charging cycles doesn't matter - when you use the integrated Charing electronics in your device. You can charge it for a few minutes over the whole day without losing any capacity. Only over the time the capacity will get lower and lower, but this is an issue you can't avoid.
The charging controller in your device cares about voltage and loading current, never put a current on a Li-Ion battery without current limiter and voltage regulator.
But Li-Ion are very sensitive to mechanical damages and production faults.
Thanks for all the advice guys. Nice to see that most of us feel the same way.
Agree with the others. Technically, for optimum life, they say it's best to be between 40%-80%.
But really, just charge it when you need to charge it. Don't worry about numbers or percentages. If you're only going to own the device for a few years, no matter how you charge your device, it's going to have absolutely no affect on the battery over that time. It'll still be holding almost the same amount of charge in a couple of years regardless of which "charging strategy" you use.
TLDR: don't worry about percentage, charge it when you feel like it or when it needs it.
Go here and follow these principles. End off.
https://www.apple.com/in/batteries/maximizing-performance/
I always stay in the range from 40/50% to 75/80% on my Galaxy Note 8 which I had for 18mos.
Accubattery shows it still has 97% capacity.
https://i.imgur.com/rOabELz.jpg
Neo3D said:
I always stay in the range from 40/50% to 75/80% on my Galaxy Note 8 which I had for 18mos.
Accubattery shows it still has 97% capacity.
https://i.imgur.com/rOabELz.jpg
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so you probably charge ur phone 6 times a day? no thanks
@SquireSCA I believe it's a narrow-minded approach to say that the phone battery will "last 2 years at best anyways, so who cares". I'm currently still rocking my Samsung Galaxy S5 which I bought brand new just over 5 years ago now on it's original battery. The battery is by no means like it was when it was new, but it will still last a day of light usage, and still runs perfectly fine with Android 5 installed. This preservation of the battery comes after years of charging it slowly on a charger outputting less than 1 amp and also making sure it rarely goes below 20%, spending most of it's time between 20%-80%.
If you you want to double your battery life you have to keep your li-ion battery between 3.7V and 4.2V. you have to stop the charge when the battery reach 4.2V so it means you have to keep your battery between 15%-85%.
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Personally I keep my battery between 15-85% which is sufficient to double it's battery life for a 3-year usage without big losses
Idk i heard ppl saying you should let it completely drain and recharge at least once a month. i charge at 15%. Oh well i only keep this phone for a year and then sell it.
It's mostly BS. There are hundreds of charging theories and no battery experts here so pick one and go with it. Pick the wrong one and instead of getting 8 hours on your batter 2 years down the road you'll probably only get 7.5 hours.