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I've looked at every YouTube video and I can't find any lag on the S5. I remember last year at this time and the S4 was lagging and stuttering all over the place. Is S-Lag really gone?
You will see lags coming with a bang!
calvin35 said:
I've looked at every YouTube video and I can't find any lag on the S5. I remember last year at this time and the S4 was lagging and stuttering all over the place. Is S-Lag really gone?
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kitkat changed most of that. and especially with the snapdragon. my note 3 is on JB, but it's really smooth with the snapdragon lol
If the new note pro or tab pro is anything to go by, there will be lag lol
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Granted it's not the S4, but even when it was stock my S3 never had any lag...
I actually saw a video with some Sutter, I think it was on Android central but I'm not sure
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barondebxl said:
I actually saw a video with some Sutter, I think it was on Android central but I'm not sure
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Correct their "hands-on" video.
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Correct their "hands-on" video.
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Yep, it did Sutter.
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I did see lag still.
You can clearly see the animations aren't as fast as say the Nexus 5 or Z2.
What a disappointment...
I saw lag in one of the hands on videos showing the new lock screen. It's going to be there unless they fully re-optimize their software. Why they didn't with the 5th generation galaxy phone, I will never understand.
With an 8+GB ROM and only 2GB of user RAM, it will lag or stutter just as much as the GS4.
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With an 8+GB ROM and only 2GB of user RAM, it will lag or stutter just as much as the GS4.
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The rom is only 5.28gb.
vbetts said:
The rom is only 5.28gb.
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Excuse me, the ROM plus all the bloatware is 8+ GB.
Baldilocks said:
With an 8+GB ROM and only 2GB of user RAM, it will lag or stutter just as much as the GS4.
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What has size of ROM got to do with RAM??
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What has size of ROM got to do with RAM??
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It'll chew away at your ram since the ROM is causing the phone to bog down my GN3 on stock rom 2.2 GB out of my 3 GB of ram is eaten up with just the phone being on and all the processes stopped so get ready for it because the Stock roms chew up your ram and spit it out Bigger ROM more processes that the RAM needs to have account for which means less ram for the user
there u go :silly:
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mother of lag
http://youtu.be/2D051uDJNt8?t=41s
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Baldilocks said:
With an 8+GB ROM and only 2GB of user RAM, it will lag or stutter just as much as the GS4.
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i bet it will stutter even worse with more bloat and the same ram
edit : does the contacts and Dialer apps still take 2 - 5 second to open ? :/
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It'll chew away at your ram since the bloatware is causing the phone to bog down my GN3 on stock rom 2.2 GB out of my 3 GB of ram is eaten up with just the phone being on and all the processes stopped so get ready for it because the Stock roms chew up your ram and spit it out
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So? you still have 2.2 GB free RAM? right?? And don't forget out of that used RAM, GPU will take a big chunk. It's not just the bloat, but other things as well. Google's services are that light either.
When was the last time you had full 3GB of RAM consumed (or 2GB in other phones)?
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So? you still have 2.2 GB free RAM? right?? And don't forget out of that used RAM, GPU will take a big chunk. It's not just the bloat, but other things as well. Google's services are that light either.
When was the last time you had full 3GB of RAM consumed (or 2GB in other phones)?
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No it uses about 2.2 GB I only have about .8 GB of ram and honestly I hit the wall quite often I'm a heavy user I have a bunch of background processes running with auto updates so it takes up quite a chunk I will be flashing a new ROM clean rom most likely to solve the issue
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there u go :silly:
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i bet it will stutter even worse with more bloat and the same ram
edit : does the contacts and Dialer apps still take 2 - 5 second to open ? :/
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It's a pre-production device, c'mon, don't be a moron.
dandroid13 said:
It's a pre-production device, c'mon, don't be a moron.
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+ 1,000,000,000 Agreed.
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Hello people,
I have lollipop on both phones my old Note 3 which has the 2 months ago leaked 5.0 and Note 4 Poland 5.0.1. Now that I have both of them next to each other, I can tell you that the Note 3 is way fluid, smoother in animation and faster than the Note 4. I'm not sure why but it feels like Note 3 is the newer not the Note 4.
For example, downloading apps from google play you can see this mil second pause on the moving bar but on the Note 3 is non stop. Even when scrolling on long list I can tell that the animation is lower than 30 FPS but on the Note 3 is over 50fps for sure.
What could be the reason behind this? is it the 2k display? or is it the GPU on the SD? or the Note 3 software is better optimized ?
would love to hear from you.
I too am very curious about this.
Is your note 4 snapdragon or exynos?
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Is your note 4 snapdragon or exynos?
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He has the Polish 5.0.1 Samsung firmware, so it's Exynos.
Hi all,
I have N910C, flashed fresh over Odin 3.09 and it is working really great on my device, way way better and responsive than on KitKat 4.4.4. This time Samsung done great job with TW, no more lag.
I never liked to make OTA update as it is kind "dirty", especially when we have so huge update from KitKat to Lollipop.
dalvik -> art etc, a lot of things which make huge impact on performance.
Id say the higher resolution is the reason, although the note 4 has faster hardware the extra 1000 pixels is a tough weight to pull. With that samsung likely reduced animation frames to conserve power and fluidity.
Back when lcd tech was only just starting to roll and 720p was the most common standard, we all felt a big hit moving to 1080p. I remember lots of people having to update systems just to keep their gaming withdrawls in check, ahh the days.
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Id say the higher resolution is the reason, although the note 4 has faster hardware the extra 1000 pixels is a tough weight to pull.
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Where did you get 1000 pixels from?! Note 4's screen has over 1.5 million more pixels than Note 3's.
A 1000 more pixel lines i ment.
Even before the update my brothers Note 3 was more fluid and smooth in compare to my Note 4.
I thought so too, but i did find app initiation time and response was slightly better on note 4 from memory. I concluded that the animation fps was lower on note 4 and less appealing but overall was more stable.
Who ever say it because of the higher resolution, I started to doubt that. I own Tab S 8.4 as well which is based on 4.4.2 and has less powerful CPU with QHD screen just like the Note 4. The animation on the Tab s is more fluid than the Note 4 which has better CPU/GPU. I really started to think that the software is not optimized as much as it needs to be and I bet you that people with 805 SD will see a better animation and smoothness.
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Who ever say it because of the higher resolution, I started to doubt that. I own Tab S 8.4 as well which is based on 4.4.2 and has less powerful CPU with QHD screen just like the Note 4. The animation on the Tab s is more fluid than the Note 4 which has better CPU/GPU. I really started to think that the software is not optimized as much as it needs to be and I bet you that people with 805 SD will see a better animation and smoothness.
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My note 4 definetly smoother than my old note 3s(have exynos and snapdragon both on lollipop) and in app opening its way faster.
Is your note 3 on lollipop ?
Yathani said:
Is your note 3 on lollipop ?
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Yes on official
DANOFDANGER said:
Id say the higher resolution is the reason, although the note 4 has faster hardware the extra 1000 pixels is a tough weight to pull. With that samsung likely reduced animation frames to conserve power and fluidity.
Back when lcd tech was only just starting to roll and 720p was the most common standard, we all felt a big hit moving to 1080p. I remember lots of people having to update systems just to keep their gaming withdrawls in check, ahh the days.
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Spo0f said:
Even before the update my brothers Note 3 was more fluid and smooth in compare to my Note 4.
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tmac31 said:
Yes on official
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Interesting,
Because even my friend who has N910c lollipop said the same thing.
Yathani said:
Interesting,
Because even my friend who has N910c lollipop said the same thing.
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Dunno when i put them side by side note 4 is definetly faster. And even before update note 3 was better seriously? 4.4.2 on note 3 sucks imo i wrote that alot of time if they wouldnt upgrade that tw i wouldnt touch any other samsung phone. 1st responsive and smooth tw on any samsung phone i tested was note 4 exynos. And with 5.0.1 its even better i have a nexus 5 too and samsung did a great job with this update in my opinion.
I flashed my 910F with 5.0.1 today and the phone felt sluggish and worse then kitkat.
made a factory reset and now its perfect. didn't find any lag at all so far, finally feels like lollipop. (and got my first 50k on antutu with a stock touchwiz rom)
tal123 said:
I flashed my 910F with 5.0.1 today and the phone felt sluggish and worse then kitkat.
made a factory reset and now its perfect. didn't find any lag at all so far, finally feels like lollipop. (and got my first 50k on antutu with a stock touchwiz rom)
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n910F is the SD type isn't ? interesting it might help me with factory reset !!
I will try to do that and re install everything back again.:good:
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n910F is the SD type isn't ? interesting it might help me with factory reset !!
I will try to do that and re install everything back again.:good:
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You updated from 4.4.4 and didnt do any wipe?
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You updated from 4.4.4 and didnt do any wipe?
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Nope.. I updated through odin and used the firmware from sammobile.com
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Nope.. I updated through odin and used the firmware from sammobile.com
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It explains your problems then.
Hey guys!
Many of you guys know about Mi A2's Memory problem. It's about Write and Read speed of Rom.
I tried everything. Sometimes its good but most often its bad like hell. Writing speed is about 30 MB/s.
I tried to reflash stock ROM and install clean so I got a better result. About 235 MB/s... After few days of using again... 30 MB/s
Idk what's wrong exactly. Xiaomi pulled back both updates of August and September. so I think there are some major issues.
And I am sure that there is two model of eMMc memory for A2. And I hope that this problem just goes for software.
This bug or issue cause many lags and freezes. Many people have the problem with flashing Roms with fastboot in Mi A2 too. I think this can be ROMs issue too. I tried to flash via fastboot with adb or with Xiaomi flash tool but both were unsuccessful due to an unknown issue. I tried them on 3 computer with over 16 GB of ram so it's not my computers problem.
We just need Xiaomi talk clearly about this problem. It's not a small one
I just want to know if our phones have the hardware problem or no
Update: At the 22 of October, we created an issue tracker for google devs, And they are investigating the problem. If u have the problem too, pls go to the button link and star the issue:
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/118036531
Update: ( 24.10)
Google admin:
We have passed this to the development team and will update this issue with more information as it becomes available.
that's right, it's a common problem on this cell phone, we hope that with the October update it will be resolved as more and more complaints
ye
Let's see some screenshot
Many Beta testers in India MIUI forum believe that its just my problem and they haven't any problem with ROM speed
I can confirm this. What's promising that speeds are good on freshly installed system. So it can mean that this is something with the software, not hardware.
pianistaPL said:
I can confirm this. What's promising that speeds are good on freshly installed system. So it can mean that this is something with the software, not hardware.
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Exactly. When i install fresh rom, there is no problem. both speeds are about 200 MB/s. But after few days... Its like hell and it cause some lag and bad response on touch
Maybe someone who has installed MIUI version on Mi A2 can do the tests, because MIUI doesn't have two partition system, so we can see if there is difference there.
And how are the Mi 6x 64/4 test speeds ?
Because it is the same hw on this phones, we can know is it software or hw issue.
Been using my a2 for a monthish now. Idk what people are complaining about.
Harald.T said:
Been using my a2 for a monthish now. Idk what people are complaining about.
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Your score is very low actually lol
pianistaPL said:
Your score is very low actually lol
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Yeah but idk what the problem is. Device is still performing great.
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Yeah but idk what the problem is. Device is still performing great.
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The device is overall very smooth but it has problem with storage operations, for example deleting apps' cache
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The device is overall very smooth but it has problem with storage operations, for example deleting apps' cache
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I think the ram management on the a2 is horrendous. I usually have less than a gb free. Where as on my old phone (p9 lite 3gb ram) I had 1.5gb free no matter what.
Harald.T said:
I think the ram management on the a2 is horrendous. I usually have less than a gb free. Where as on my old phone (p9 lite 3gb ram) I had 1.5gb free no matter what.
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I wonder why people think more free ram is better. Ram is there to be used and empty ram is wasted ram. Do you have any issues with apps closing unexpectedly? If not ram management is good actually.
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I wonder why people think more free ram is better. Ram is there to be used and empty ram is wasted ram. Do you have any issues with apps closing unexpectedly? If not ram management is good actually.
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So I was downloading the new update while browsing XDA. The phone kept freezing up so I checked cpuz.. had about 150mb free of ram. I don't think that downloading an update takes that much ram.
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So I was downloading the new update while browsing XDA. The phone kept freezing up so I checked cpuz.. had about 150mb free of ram. I don't think that downloading an update takes that much ram.
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Is not for RAM, Is problem of the ROM memory.
Harald.T said:
So I was downloading the new update while browsing XDA. The phone kept freezing up so I checked cpuz.. had about 150mb free of ram. I don't think that downloading an update takes that much ram.
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When device Writing, touch response is like hell. Freeze and lag
Harald.T said:
Been using my a2 for a monthish now. Idk what people are complaining about.
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90MB/s writing is not good really. It must be about 200 at least. But it's not about speed. it's about instability. Try to run that benchmark again. Then try to use ur phone...
Just a question. Since this happens after some use, it could just be that memory isn't being trimmed (properly).
Could you trim the memory and do a benchmark then?
You can trim it via terminal or using the Trimmer app from the play store. Root needed for this.
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Just a question. Since this happens after some use, it could just be that memory isn't being trimmed (properly).
Could you trim the memory and do a benchmark then?
You can trim it via terminal or using the Trimmer app from the play store. Root needed for this.
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My device is not rooted but i will find another person to do this
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90MB/s writing is not good really. It must be about 200 at least. But it's not about speed. it's about instability. Try to run that benchmark again. Then try to use ur phone...
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Holy crap youre right. So it's a rom issue. Ffs xiaomi
Camera is ok
Battery is below average
Lags
Has many bugs
Memory is slow
Sound management is **** (blame android i guess)
2/10
Coming from a Sony Xperia XA I had got for free this phone is so bad I really need to change it asap
most of these are software issues which Xiaomi got to move and fix it ASAP
Mem_0 said:
most of these are software issues which Xiaomi got to move and fix it ASAP
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Which xiaomi won't because they exist since release*
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Which xiaomi won't because they exist since release*
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just be hopeful and no they didst exist on Oreo as far as I know :'3
Well I'm definitely getting the note 6 pro instead
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Camera is ok
Battery is below average
Lags
Has many bugs
Memory is slow
Sound management is **** (blame android i guess)
2/10
Coming from a Sony Xperia XA I had got for free this phone is so bad I really need to change it asap
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i am surprised at this. how is the camera bad. its good enough for the price.
lags. have been using it since the launch and not once has it lagged for me.
memory is slow? what does that even mean
srgudhka said:
i am surprised at this. how is the camera bad. its good enough for the price.
lags. have been using it since the launch and not once has it lagged for me.
memory is slow? what does that even mean
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I said camera is ok, not bad.
it lags everytime and freezes sometimes.
the memory is slow means I feel like I have windows 98 on an old HDD.
anyway I'll buy another phone as soon as I get money
Welll... i barely notice any difference compared with nokia 7 plus, for example, which has the same SoC
hate much?
1) Ever since 1.15US update, the performance is 94% of other Snapdragon 855 phones. In two benchmarks I tried - Antutu, 3Dmark. This is a consistent result from multiple users and the benchmark compare stats.
2) The bluetooth volume keeps resetting to default (low) every time the phone is connected to the BT device, automatically. Why doesn't the phone remember the bt volume setting?
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The bluetooth volume keeps resetting to default (low) every time the phone is connected to the BT device, automatically. Why doesn't the phone remember the bt volume setting?
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Yep, I've noticed this too, highly annoying!
How'd you even get the update?
Mine's v1.11 and says it has the latest update.
Psyrecx said:
How'd you even get the update?
Mine's v1.11 and says it has the latest update.
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Are you serious?
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Are you serious?
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Yeah. I just got the phone on Monday, and it was v1.11 and says there are no updates.
Managed to manually update mine.
Got a 6700 point drop in AnTuTu.
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Managed to manually update mine.
Got a 6700 point drop in AnTuTu.
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Multiple users reported 367k in Antutu with the latest update. Before it was 390k.
Same 6% decrease in 3DMark.
https://benchmarks.ul.com/compare/b...ES_31&deviceFilter=PHONE&displaySize=3.0,15.0
Look at how Snapdragon 855 phones score around 5500.
This phone scores 5100 now.
Shame!
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This phone scores 5100 now.
Shame!
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Kind of wish I had tested it with 3DMark beforehand, but it's testing at a 5192, now.
Texan1 said:
Yep, I've noticed this too, highly annoying!
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The BT volume resetting problem is solved by enabling this Developer Option:
I wonder if they are throttling to make the 855+ version have a more dramatic performance difference?
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I wonder if they are throttling to make the 855+ version have a more dramatic performance difference?
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Probably not. They still have to sell these things until the 855+ one comes out. It's more than likely a mistake done purely to the NA/global version. No reports on the more updated Chinese version.