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Hello!
Im seriously considering buying this phone. I was just going to buy a new one plus 5t but then I heard about this phone. After much digging around I just had some general questions that would help me decide if I should go for the Redmi K 20 pro or One plus 5T. Since im trying to stay below the 450 price range
1. I heard the usb port isn't actually USB Type C but USB 2.0 for file transfers. Meaning super slow file transfer speeds, is this true/noticeable?
2. I heard theres a missing band. Does this affect LTE use in the US in any-way with T-Mobile?
3. At aliexpress is "global rom version" just xiaomi.eu pre-loaded onto the phone? Im not sure which one I should buy China or "global"
(Found here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/330...chweb0_0,searchweb201602_6,searchweb201603_53)
4. Does the xiaomi.eu version receive stable ota updates, are they based on the updates released officially from xiaomi made for the redmi K20 pro?
Do these updates have any issues? If I must manually update, is it recommended to wipe data before every update? Will I have to reinstall twrp every-time?
5. Is there a stable root/ can I still update with root?
6. Does the phone come with a locked bootloader and do I have to go through a 7 day wait period to unlock it?
7. I noticed there is a theme store. Does that work on the xiaomi.eu version. I wont get a phone without a true black theme option, (not like "google's dark mode" which is just a bluesish gray kind of thing. ) Are the themes comparable to one plus accent colors or substratums themes. Id want a phone that can go true black with the option to make settings/notification panel/dialer icon colors uniform. Something like the screen shots attached:
I know it might seem kind of silly but having some cool themes is important to me. Which is why I like the one plus with its true blacks and accent colors + complete subtratum support. But if something similar is obtainable with the redmi the would be great.
So ya if anyone has any input with these questions that would be fantastic
Thanks so much!
CollinsB said:
Hello!
Im seriously considering buying this phone. I was just going to buy a new one plus 5t but then I heard about this phone. After much digging around I just had some general questions that would help me decide if I should go for the Redmi K 20 pro or One plus 5T. Since im trying to stay below the 450 price range
1. I heard the usb port isn't actually USB Type C but USB 2.0 for file transfers. Meaning super slow file transfer speeds, is this true/noticeable?
2. I heard theres a missing band. Does this affect LTE use in the US in any-way with T-Mobile?
3. At aliexpress is "global rom version" just xiaomi.eu pre-loaded onto the phone? Im not sure which one I should buy China or "global"
(Found here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/330...chweb0_0,searchweb201602_6,searchweb201603_53)
4. Does the xiaomi.eu version receive stable ota updates, are they based on the updates released officially from xiaomi made for the redmi K20 pro?
Do these updates have any issues? If I must manually update, is it recommended to wipe data before every update? Will I have to reinstall twrp every-time?
5. Is there a stable root/ can I still update with root?
6. Does the phone come with a locked bootloader and do I have to go through a 7 day wait period to unlock it?
7. I noticed there is a theme store. Does that work on the xiaomi.eu version. I wont get a phone without a true black theme option, (not like "google's dark mode" which is just a bluesish gray kind of thing. ) Are the themes comparable to one plus accent colors or substratums themes. Id want a phone that can go true black with the option to make settings/notification panel/dialer icon colors uniform. Something like the screen shots attached:
I know it might seem kind of silly but having some cool themes is important to me. Which is why I like the one plus with its true blacks and accent colors + complete subtratum support. But if something similar is obtainable with the redmi the would be great.
So ya if anyone has any input with these questions that would be fantastic
Thanks so much!
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0 LTE bands for T-Mobile so you would have a 3G phone
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0 LTE bands for T-Mobile so you would have a 3G phone
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Oh wow. So i guess one plus 5t for me then
Thanks!
I don't know about US. But I live in Canada and currently I have full 4g speeds on Telus/Koodo although I was told that 3g is the max I will get .
Device transfer speeds are better on par than oneplus6 which I use at my work phone.
If you are willing to import the k20 pro, why not go for an oneplus 7 (Not pro) for the same price?
Phone have only Global ROM not global LTE HW! Just wait for Global version ... try this: https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/GB/xiaomi-redmi-855 but there is still CHINA verion only
Lets wait for global version and some ROM without MIUI
It does have usb c port just not 3.1, only a few phones have it such as the OP7 Pro.
Some deciding questions of mine as well ..
I am considering getting the China version for its price, but I need to know that I will be able to switch the OS to the global version, and hopefully flash Pixel Experience in it when it comes out. The former seems already possible (still need confirming if possible, I'm a newbie in all this developer talk); as to the latter, I guess the likelihood is pretty great. Right ?
Or should I just wait and buy the Mi 9T Pro when it's out ? Again, my end result intention is to have this phone running the Pixel Android, and I'd rather go cheap if I can get away with the China version (the hardware being same as global).
1. It's USB 2.0
2. I have T-Mobile, but I'm roaming in China.
3. If you import from China, you'd better choose the global ROM, at first I bought a Chinese ROM version, Chinese MIUI ROM raped me for a whole week.
4,5. I'm on EU ROM now, no need to reinstall twrp every update, you can root, but you should get root again every update.
6. I don't know, I bought it in China with stock locked bl
7. I just checked the theme store, there are some black themes, but in settings, dark mode is enough.
themostunique said:
If you are willing to import the k20 pro, why not go for an oneplus 7 (Not pro) for the same price?
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Because one plus 7 has a notch and no headphone jack.
locki said:
Phone have only Global ROM not global LTE HW! Just wait for Global version ... try this: https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/GB/xiaomi-redmi-855 but there is still CHINA verion only
Lets wait for global version and some ROM without MIUI
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Ah thanks for this!
I checked and it seems very likely ill have a lot of trouble with 4G
Oh well
tenshikurabu said:
1. It's USB 2.0
2. I have T-Mobile, but I'm roaming in China.
3. If you import from China, you'd better choose the global ROM, at first I bought a Chinese ROM version, Chinese MIUI ROM raped me for a whole week.
4,5. I'm on EU ROM now, no need to reinstall twrp every update, you can root, but you should get root again every update.
6. I don't know, I bought it in China with stock locked bl
7. I just checked the theme store, there are some black themes, but in settings, dark mode is enough.
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Thanks for the Info!
And the dark mode looks great! Good to know if I get a xiaomi in the the future!
@CollinsB I suffer from the same dilemma, seeing that you've marked the thread *resolved* , what'd you decide??
also i would like to ask one more question, seeing that redmi phones get only one major Android upgrade (I'm using a redmi note 3(L ->M)) do you guys think it would be the same for their new flagship?
because i think op7 would probably get 2 upgrades, it makes the choice a little harder.
tenshikurabu said:
1. It's USB 2.0
2. I have T-Mobile, but I'm roaming in China.
3. If you import from China, you'd better choose the global ROM, at first I bought a Chinese ROM version, Chinese MIUI ROM raped me for a whole week.
4,5. I'm on EU ROM now, no need to reinstall twrp every update, you can root, but you should get root again every update.
6. I don't know, I bought it in China with stock locked bl
7. I just checked the theme store, there are some black themes, but in settings, dark mode is enough.
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Folks , do not buy the fake global ROM version , I Repeat donot. The fake global versions are binded with AliExpress sellers email accounts which means if your unlocked bootloader gets locked accidently and your device is bricked there is no way to go back .
As for Chinese ROM . First there is no issue using Chinese ROM as the English option exists within the ROM and works without a glitch (including play store ) but you can still unlock bootloader and flash the EU or global version on your device .
Check this YouTube video why you shouldn't buy fake global ROM version
https://youtu.be/FQoXPLcoEfU
strangeprotocol said:
Folks , do not buy the fake global ROM version , I Repeat donot. The fake global versions are binded with AliExpress sellers email accounts which means if your unlocked bootloader gets locked accidently and your device is bricked there is no way to go back .
As for Chinese ROM . First there is no issue using Chinese ROM as the English option exists within the ROM and works without a glitch (including play store ) but you can still unlock bootloader and flash the EU or global version on your device .
Check this YouTube video why you shouldn't buy fake global ROM version
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Thank you for your help, luckily I bought the stock version:angel:
kanodiatushar said:
@CollinsB I suffer from the same dilemma, seeing that you've marked the thread *resolved* , what'd you decide??
also i would like to ask one more question, seeing that redmi phones get only one major Android upgrade (I'm using a redmi note 3(L ->M)) do you guys think it would be the same for their new flagship?
because i think op7 would probably get 2 upgrades, it makes the choice a little harder.
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Don't own the phone, but i have a poco F1 which is pretty similar. Based on my experience, there will be a lot of custom roms for the K20 so android versions wont be an issue. For US residents, K20 is lacking several bands, in my case it is missing band 4, which is the main band used by my carrier(i live in central america). While you can get LTE on band 5, speeds and coverage will suffer quite a bit. Check the bands your carriers use, if the phone doesnt have them wait for global version.
kanodiatushar said:
@CollinsB I suffer from the same dilemma, seeing that you've marked the thread *resolved* , what'd you decide??
also i would like to ask one more question, seeing that redmi phones get only one major Android upgrade (I'm using a redmi note 3(L ->M)) do you guys think it would be the same for their new flagship?
because i think op7 would probably get 2 upgrades, it makes the choice a little harder.
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I decided on the oneplus 5T. I got it brand new for 380.
I'm loving it! :good:
Sorry to bother but are you sure it's usb 2 for file transfer and usb-c for charging?
I was planning to buy the 256GB version but if it's really usb 2 that would be a waste. I don't mind if it's not usb 3.1, I was hoping for at least usb 3
would you mind double-checking?
thanks a lot
tenshikurabu said:
1. It's USB 2.0
2. I have T-Mobile, but I'm roaming in China.
3. If you import from China, you'd better choose the global ROM, at first I bought a Chinese ROM version, Chinese MIUI ROM raped me for a whole week.
4,5. I'm on EU ROM now, no need to reinstall twrp every update, you can root, but you should get root again every update.
6. I don't know, I bought it in China with stock locked bl
7. I just checked the theme store, there are some black themes, but in settings, dark mode is enough.
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I have a question too.
Being that the bootloader being unlockable..
Is there a reason we haven't seen any custom roms.?
An issue with sources.
I'm planning for doing development for this device. So this would be a make or break for me..
Thanks
infomedia0 said:
I have a question too.
Being that the bootloader being unlockable..
Is there a reason we haven't seen any custom roms.?
An issue with sources.
I'm planning for doing development for this device. So this would be a make or break for me..
Thanks
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The device hasn't been launched globally yet, and with it's launch set for India soon, im sure a lot of good/cool devs are gonna pick it up.
im counting on that too. It would take atleast a month or so for proper development to begin after launch, i think.
is there any difference between them ? I know there is a difference in the ROM
With the Chinese version ... even when you set the OS language to English, many of the menu items remain in Chinese.
If you install additional Text-to-Speech engines (voices), when you close a TTS app, the default voice will switch to a highly annoying Chinese voice trying to speak English.
I haven't found a way to turn off that TTS engine, it always goes back to the engine when you load a TTS app.
The Chinese version is full of Chinese bloatware that you can't get rid of.
The OS looks and feels very amateuristic, compared to OnePlus.
marcovth2 said:
With the Chinese version ... even when you set the OS language to English, many of the menu items remain in Chinese.
If you install additional Text-to-Speech engines (voices), when you close a TTS app, the default voice will switch to a highly annoying Chinese voice trying to speak English.
I haven't found a way to turn off that TTS engine, it always goes back to the engine when you load a TTS app.
The Chinese version is full of Chinese bloatware that you can't get rid of.
The OS looks and feels very amateuristic, compared to OnePlus.
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You should buy EU/GLOBAL version will be better
Realme just a 1 year company. They expand too fast. And I think most chinese company will have same problem like Xiaomi, Oneplus. If you want more stable system you should buy Xiaomi or Oneplus, It will bring you more stable os I think. Just like 5-6 years ago, Xiaomi 2 has a poor system too.
What is the difference between chinese version and global version?
is it just software or hardware difference?
If it is only software difference can we flash a global/EU ROM???
jhha said:
What is the difference between chinese version and global version?
is it just software or hardware difference?
If it is only software difference can we flash a global/EU ROM???
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that's why i asked i live in iraq and the price of the chinese is 440$ while the global is 410$
hosin211 said:
that's why i asked i live in iraq and the price of the chinese is 440$ while the global is 410$
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I think buy global version is better. It support 4G band 28 and chinese version didnt have. I dont know its software lock it or not, other spec seems the same.
Is the eu and global version the same???
bharat.bkj said:
Is the eu and global version the same???
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Yes, at this time there only 2 version :
- Chinese
- Global (EU, India...)
So can I install a eu ROM and everything should be solved?
Ishidad said:
So can I install a eu ROM and everything should be solved?
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For what i hav read, this is not an option right now (i need this too). I suggest waiting fo a stable procedure to be release.
Which version comes with US plug? I've seen unboxing videos and some come with UK plug and some with US plug. Can someone confirm? Thanks
I am considering selling European version and buying Chinese one. Can the Chinese version do call recording ?
Is it allowed on their androids or android 10 doesn't allow it to any part of the world ?
I don't know, I used to have a Mate 20 Pro (mexican version with carrier firmware), and with the apk for call recording was enough... maybe if there's a way to retrieve the apk from the chinese version (if there's any), it might be possible...
yes i have that exact model ... work 100 %
death365 said:
yes i have that exact model ... work 100 %
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How to access the settings page?
death365 said:
yes i have that exact model ... work 100 %
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Hi,
Do you share call recording apk here?
It still won't work on non Chinese versions
Phone then settings
capcase said:
How to access the settings page?
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death365 said:
yes i have that exact model ... work 100 %
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OMG ! - Mate, do you know how to extract recorder.apk from that and share it here
PS - I found chinese ROM but I extracting APKs from rom file is way too difficult for me. If anyone can help with that I am willing to share that ROM file.
death365 said:
yes i have that exact model ... work 100 %
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Any chance you know how to extract APK from your phone so others can try installing it ? Can it be done simply like copying APK or it has to be extracted from ROM file...
PS - (I have ROM file, just dont' know how to open DATA files from inside, any help appreciated)
death365 said:
Phone then settings
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I don't see it. Hmmmm
Sathelp said:
It still won't work on non Chinese versions
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He's talking about Mexican career. I have ELS-N39 not the UK one. I'd like to try but - can you enlighten us a bit why it won't work to spare me of trying ??
Because it's only Chinese variant that it is enabled. In the past when you could unlock the bootloader and change regions, you could change between Chinese and any other area and back and it only works on the Chinese version. It must be restricted in the ROM. I've had Chinese versions with it working, extracted the file and tried on a non Chinese version and it fails installation every time.
I use ACR on non Chinese versions, works ok but callers voice needs turning up.
Try if you want. I'm sure that everyone would appreciate a working version of Huawei call recorder on their phones, it just works perfectly but please feel free to try and feedback to us your findings as this question comes up with every model.
If you do a search, I extracted Android 9 and 10 version to the forum in the past and I can get my Mate 30 pro fired up and extract it again if you want.
In fact here it is attached, Android 10 version from my Chinese Mate 30 Pro. Let us all know how you get on.
Sathelp said:
In fact here it is attached, Android 10 version from my Chinese Mate 30 Pro. Let us all know how you get on.
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Installation failed...!
The parser did not find any certificates in the installation package.
Exactly, that is what happens on a non Chinese version
Sathelp said:
In fact here it is attached, Android 10 version from my Chinese Mate 30 Pro. Let us all know how you get on.
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Thank you. What you have described earlier, I have done in the past with HTC: change region, easily using XTC tool which would allow me to have NFC, Radio and few features which were disabled on EU version.
Your story is totally believable and true; I was just hoping it might work. I'll try anyway, you know the old say "fulls don't believe anyone"
PS - I do have ACR full pro licensed version, I need call recorder to work perfectly, it's part of my job, so even if I have to buy chinese phone, be it huawei or samsung or whatever...
Btw did you know that call recording is allowed in Italy without any announcement. I am really unhappy that this phone isn't really developed properly for various EU regions.
You could always swap to a mi 10 ultra which has call recorder and a pretty near or as good camera. These have call recorder as standard but like me and many others, flash the EU ROM and get the best software options plus. And you keep the call recorder.
I have both but as Huawei are locking down so much, it tempted me away to a near equivalent but fully and actually encouraged to by Xiaomi to use custom ROMs. Check out the XDA Xiaomi mi 10 Ultra forum
Sathelp said:
You could always swap to a mi 10 ultra which has call recorder and a pretty near or as good camera. These have call recorder as standard but like me and many others, flash the EU ROM and get the best software options plus. And you keep the call recorder.
I have both but as Huawei are locking down so much, it tempted me away to a near equivalent but fully and actually encouraged to by Xiaomi to use custom ROMs. Check out the XDA Xiaomi mi 10 Ultra forum
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I may consider the mi 10 ultra, I'm in the uk so will it work on our network? Where did you buy it from?
Sent from my ELS-NX9 using Tapatalk
XDA has an active forum at https://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-10-ultra.
For the UK use Wondamobile as they ship to Manchester and then ship to you, so they pay any import duty, delivery in about a week from Hong Kong at a good price, other suppliers out there too.
One of the main issues in the hardware is that it has no band 20 radio. In the UK some operators change their use of band 20 from 3 to 4G, O2 being the main one that may affect you. 5G works a treat as does 4G on all other providers but with O2 and any providers that use O2 network, you won't get 4G from band 20 masts. To be honest, now that most people use 4G, the 3G throughput that it drops down to on these masts is dam good and I don't miss 4G at all. Still get Sky Q out and about via 3G. My second sim is EE and that is fine on 4G, so something to think about before buying.
The stock Chinese ROM has Google but one thing missing on this is location tracing and history. Gpay works fine on the stock ROM.
As Xiaomi encourage custom ROMs, you can unlock the bootloader. As a precaution, once you fully verify your account in mi cloud, and you start to unlock, it makes you wait 168 hours, one week, before allowing you to finish the process. Once unlocked, you can flash the Xiaomi.EU custom ROM if you want, details on the XDA forum or the Xiaomi.EU forum. Paranoid Android may be providing one too at some point. The EU version has done an excellent job on this but it does still have some work to do on CTS profile security but it does have Widevine L1 ( the stock has all security). Gpay too has a temp bug hopefully being fixed soon to but it's ok on Chinese stock and as the custom weekly or stable branches of ROM are based on the Chinese updates.
Have a read before committing. I moved over after being Huawei for a few years but with them locking the bootloader and the Google debako by USA has made me swap brands and to be honest, I am quite happy to do so, Xiaomi are making some dam good customisable phones.
Sathelp said:
XDA has an active forum at https://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-10-ultra.
For the UK use Wondamobile as they ship to Manchester and then ship to you, so they pay any import duty, delivery in about a week from Hong Kong at a good price, other suppliers out there too.
One of the main issues in the hardware is that it has no band 20 radio. In the UK some operators change their use of band 20 from 3 to 4G, O2 being the main one that may affect you. 5G works a treat as does 4G on all other providers but with O2 and any providers that use O2 network, you won't get 4G from band 20 masts. To be honest, now that most people use 4G, the 3G throughput that it drops down to on these masts is dam good and I don't miss 4G at all. Still get Sky Q out and about via 3G. My second sim is EE and that is fine on 4G, so something to think about before buying.
The stock Chinese ROM has Google but one thing missing on this is location tracing and history. Gpay works fine on the stock ROM.
As Xiaomi encourage custom ROMs, you can unlock the bootloader. As a precaution, once you fully verify your account in mi cloud, and you start to unlock, it makes you wait 168 hours, one week, before allowing you to finish the process. Once unlocked, you can flash the Xiaomi.EU custom ROM if you want, details on the XDA forum or the Xiaomi.EU forum. Paranoid Android may be providing one too at some point. The EU version has done an excellent job on this but it does still have some work to do on CTS profile security but it does have Widevine L1 ( the stock has all security). Gpay too has a temp bug hopefully being fixed soon to but it's ok on Chinese stock and as the custom weekly or stable branches of ROM are based on the Chinese updates.
Have a read before committing. I moved over after being Huawei for a few years but with them locking the bootloader and the Google debako by USA has made me swap brands and to be honest, I am quite happy to do so, Xiaomi are making some dam good customisable phones.
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True that, If Huawei allow unlocking the bootloader, then their phones will rock and can be sold with people worrying about Google ban, as there will be many developers out there ready to build many custom rom with Google (GMS) Integrated
See:
[Update: Launched in India] Vivo's flagship X70 series sports upgraded cameras, bigger batteries, and newer chips
Vivo today unveiled the new Vivo X70 series, featuring three new flagship devices. Read on to learn all about the new phones.
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Vivo X70 Pro+ First Impressions: Flagship Cameras to watch out for
The Vivo X70 Pro+ is Vivo's latest flagship with one of the most versatile camera setups. Here are our initial impressions of the device.
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how can I flash Funtouch OS on the China variant of Vivo X70 Pro Plus, please?
It's not possibile.
I can't seem to find video bokeh mode on my X70 PRO PLUS.But most of the video on YouTube showed it's possible. What am I missing ! Also my phone is running most recent version of OS.
@Kotin89 Do you have funtouch or OriginOS version? There may be a difference. Almost all youtubers get the funtouch version.
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Do you have funtouch or OriginOS version? There may be a difference. Almost all youtubers get the funtouch version.
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I have PD2145F_EX_A_3.11.8_vivo_qcom_LA.UM.9.14.r1-12600-LAHAINA-sm7325-sm8350_split.tar
But I can’t get my phone into EDL
I tried AFTOOL 5.3.50 and he said I need a newer version
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@Kotin89 Do you have funtouch or OriginOS version? There may be a difference. Almost all youtubers get the funtouch version.
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Thank you for the reply @cmmdmx , I have funtouch OS. I did some digging around and it seems like its only available on the X70 pro and not not X70 pro plus. A very weird decision by Vivo !
Kotin89 said:
Thank you for the reply @cmmdmx , I have funtouch OS. I did some digging around and it seems like its only available on the X70 pro and not not X70 pro plus. A very weird decision by Vivo !
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Weird indeed, not available in my origin OS version either.
Could you do a quick check of the supported target fps on Funtouch? Vivo has limited 60fps support in external apps, which is a huge letdown.
Airbeat Device Inspector: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.airbeat.device.inspector
Killuminati91 said:
Weird indeed, not available in my origin OS version either.
Could you do a quick check of the supported target fps on Funtouch? Vivo has limited 60fps support in external apps, which is a huge letdown.
Airbeat Device Inspector: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.airbeat.device.inspector
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Looks like same as yours !
Hey guys, has the Indian version Funtouch OS with support of Czech language? Is it possible to use that phone in EU without any limitations? Thank you for answers.
are there owners of the Indian version? Can you copy the dialer?
there is a free program
ADB AppControl - 4PDA
ADB AppControl, Управление приложениями через ADB на ПК c удобным интерфейсом
4pda.to
https://4pda.to/forum/dl/post/23911884/ADB_AppControl_171.zip
Je voudrais acheter le téléphone en version indienne. Sur quel site puis je le trouver ?
I'm wondering whether people think it's a mistake to buy the Chinese version of the Vivo X70 Pro+.
I'm an English-speaker living in Italy, and the Chinese version is the only one available; I'd be buying it from Wonda. Compatibility with Italian networks doesn't look to be an issue. My concerns are the usual: bloatware, Chinese interface elements, Jovi instead of Hello Google, etc.
A couple of specific things: will this affect translation across apps (which is generally done via Google Translate)? I need to be able to translate stuff into Italian and Japanese, and from those languages into English.
And I'll need both Nova Launcher and WhatsApp. I do have a family member living in China, so if I have to sign up for things with a local phone number, that won't be an issue. Still, I worry I'm setting myself up for a major headache.
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I'm wondering whether people think it's a mistake to buy the Chinese version of the Vivo X70 Pro+.
I'm an English-speaker living in Italy, and the Chinese version is the only one available; I'd be buying it from Wonda. Compatibility with Italian networks doesn't look to be an issue. My concerns are the usual: bloatware, Chinese interface elements, Jovi instead of Hello Google, etc.
A couple of specific things: will this affect translation across apps (which is generally done via Google Translate)? I need to be able to translate stuff into Italian and Japanese, and from those languages into English.
And I'll need both Nova Launcher and WhatsApp. I do have a family member living in China, so if I have to sign up for things with a local phone number, that won't be an issue. Still, I worry I'm setting myself up for a major headache.
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I buy my X70 Pro+ from Giztop eshop. No problems, the phone arrived in Ireland in about two weeks. No Custom payes. But I paid a lot, more than 900 €. Normally I always order from Tradingshenzen, but at that time they only had the most expensive version in stock. Today they are all available and 8 + 256 costs a great 827 €. With duty-free transport.
When unpacked from the box, it was already in the Google Play Store phone and the default English. Of course, there is bloatware (which mobile manufacturer doesn't?). Some Vivo applications are going to uninstall. The problem with Vivo apps is that they are 99% of the content is Chinese and I haven't found a way to change that. Actually, I'm not even interested, they just are there and I don't use them.
Origin OS settings are more difficult to understand. It took me a few days / hours to figure out how to allow various permissions and notifications for Google Play apps. The only problem still persists and that is that the phone does not notify me of received FB Messenger messages. In the settings, you can even click on the options "Default App Settings" and change Google applications to make calls for those from Vivo, etc. It's just still an Android OS. and the superstructure is inspired by MIUI and Oxygen OS for me. Google Assistant works when you press the microphone icon on the Google Taskbar, unfortunately it is written "currently unavailable on this device" for voice activation settings.
You don't need a Chinese phone number. You can create an account on the Vivo website via email and then log in to your phone with a password
@forgreenever Thank you! Very helpful. Sounds as if you don't regret not going with the global version.
Funny, I'm looking at Tradingshenzen now, and all of their X70 Pro+ models come with "Firmware: Multi - GE / EN /FR / ES/..." -- which sure sounds like global? (UPDATE: No, that seems to be the way they describe the Chinese version in many stores.)
Gnaius said:
@forgreenever Thank you! Very helpful. Sounds as if you don't regret not going with the global version.
Funny, I'm looking at Tradingshenzen now, and all of their X70 Pro+ models come with "Firmware: Multi - GE / EN /FR / ES/..." -- which sure sounds like global? (UPDATE: No, that seems to be the way they describe the Chinese version in many stores.)
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Yes, these languages are in the official China Version of Origin OS. Few European languages.
I didn't seen nobody who can confirm languages inside India Funtouch OS
PS: Its actually my first phone with china version OS. And first Vivo and other BBK Electronics phone brands.
X70 Pro+ I choose because these great rated cameras. Its great experience for me. I worked before only with only Xiaomi and Samsung smartphones
I´ve got OriginOS version and I will be selling it.
All Google services work fine (Pay, Store etc.) but Android Auto does not work, battery life is poor and I do not get many notifications from messangers like WhatsApp or Signal (even if I set all permissions and disable battery optimization). The ROM is bloated with Chinese crap that cant be uninstalled and my network connection trough WiFi is very unstable.
The phone itself is great and the camera is amazing but OriginOS is complete trash and just not worth the trouble.
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I´ve got OriginOS version and I will be selling it.
All Google services work fine (Pay, Store etc.) but Android Auto does not work, battery life is poor and I do not get many notifications from messangers like WhatsApp or Signal (even if I set all permissions and disable battery optimization). The ROM is bloated with Chinese crap that cant be uninstalled and my network connection trough WiFi is very unstable.
The phone itself is great and the camera is amazing but OriginOS is complete trash and just not worth the trouble.
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Bloatware can be easily uninstalled through adb command. To receive all notifications you have to remove com.pem.vivo.
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Bloatware can be easily uninstalled through adb command. To receive all notifications you have to remove com.pem.vivo.
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I have removed some stuff trough ADB already but honestly I am not at age and mood to fiddle with the new phone anymore just to make it work. AndroidAuto not working and poor battery life is the main reason for me to sell it anyway.
Didnt know about com.pem.vivo though. I´ll give it a shot, thanks!
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I have removed some stuff trough ADB already but honestly I am not at age and mood to fiddle with the new phone anymore just to make it work. AndroidAuto not working and poor battery life is the main reason for me to sell it anyway.
Didnt know about com.pem.vivo though. I´ll give it a shot, thanks!
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As far as I know, Android Auto doesn't work in any Android 11 phone if it is not a system app. Will see what is changed with Android 12 which has again different approach (through Assistant).
And the battery life is good.
I didn't buy the phone yet, but before I need to understand why this is so important to have Funtouch OS instead of OriginOS which is present on chinese ROM.
Thanks
DomZ said:
I didn't buy the phone yet, but before I need to understand why this is so important to have Funtouch OS instead of OriginOS which is present on chinese ROM.
Thanks
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Funtouch is based on Android stock, so it's more easy to have Android base update.
Another reason is to avoid chinese stuff and have west countries function (android auto, apps clone, always on full range of notification).
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Funtouch is based on Android stock, so it's more easy to have Android base update.
Another reason is to avoid chinese stuff and have west countries function (android auto, apps clone, always on full range of notification).
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I guess it depends on user's preferences. As far as I'm concerned, I wanted the Chinese phone and so far I'm satisfied. The only downside that bothers me is the lack of Android Auto. But I knew it before I bought the phone and I have one half satisfactory alternative solution.
Other differences are not important for me. But the western model lacks a lot of Chinese functions, which I consider significant, too.
And regarding system updates, I got one yesterday, and it is the second update in less than 2 moths. And before new year, I'm gonna have Android 12 (Originos Ocean).
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I guess it depends on user's preferences. As far as I'm concerned, I wanted the Chinese phone and so far I'm satisfied. The only downside that bothers me is the lack of Android Auto. But I knew it before I bought the phone and I have one half satisfactory alternative solution.
Other differences are not important for me. But the western model lacks a lot of Chinese functions, which I consider significant, too.
And regarding system updates, I got one yesterday, and it is the second update in less than 2 moths. And before new year, I'm gonna have Android 12 (Originos Ocean).
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Bro origin os ocean is not android 12 its android 11 still. I have origin os ocean software but its on android 11. Hope we get android 12 soon on vivo x70 pro plus
JohnWick90 said:
Bro origin os ocean is not android 12 its android 11 still. I have origin os ocean software but its on android 11. Hope we get android 12 soon on vivo x70 pro plus
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You are right. I was surprised when I noticed that it is still android 11 after last update. Somewhere I found that stable android 12 comes in May or June and it would be ocean 3.
piskr said:
You are right. I was surprised when I noticed that it is still android 11 after last update. Somewhere I found that stable android 12 comes in May or June and it would be ocean 3.
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Damn andoid 13 will be introduced that time and vivo will release android 12? I didnt know vivo is the slowest in software updates
Does teh Funtouch OS work with X70+ Pro? Do you need to custom flash the ROM to work? Thanks in advance
alextn99 said:
Does teh Funtouch OS work with X70+ Pro? Do you need to custom flash the ROM to work? Thanks in advance
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Do you have the Origin OS?
Because funtouch doesn't lock bootloader like OriginOS and origin is filled with Chinese bloatware it took my 3 days to uninstall it and I switched to nova launcher. 100% don't go for ORIGIN FOR CRYING OUT LOUD they won't even let me do adb debugging to remove their annoying crap
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Does teh Funtouch OS work with X70+ Pro? Do you need to custom flash the ROM to work? Thanks in advance
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I would be interested in that too. I had Funtouch OS on V60 Pro + and it was ok. Now I have Origin on V70 Pro + and I don't like it at all.
hatryan said:
I would be interested in that too. I had Funtouch OS on V60 Pro + and it was ok. Now I have Origin on V70 Pro + and I don't like it at all.
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OriginOS is supposed to be the successor of funtouch this is why they are rolling them out for devices made for Chinese markert. However I really dislike it when a manufacturer tries to lock you out of the phone you paid for. This should be a violation of consumer rights but then again you're dealing with a company that operates in a country with no rights so if you buy a phone that is aimed to be consumed by Chinese market you really don't have much to say
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OriginOS is supposed to be the successor of funtouch this is why they are rolling them out for devices made for Chinese markert. However I really dislike it when a manufacturer tries to lock you out of the phone you paid for. This should be a violation of consumer rights but then again you're dealing with a company that operates in a country with no rights so if you buy a phone that is aimed to be consumed by Chinese market you really don't have much to say
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Consumer rigths? Chinese versions are supposed to be sold in chinese market so you can't blame Vivo.
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Consumer rigths? Chinese versions are supposed to be sold in chinese market so you can't blame Vivo.
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This is exactly what I said my friend, we really don't have choice to complain
5g, VoLTE, WiFi calling, Call recording is the most important reasons to have Origin OS Ocean for Vivo X70 pro Plus in Greece at least. I dont know other countries. Non of them working for the global fan touch os version. So.. i prefer Chinese that everething is working fast and perfect except android auto and backup to google drive...
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5g, VoLTE, WiFi calling, Call recording is the most important reasons to have Origin OS Ocean for Vivo X70 pro Plus in Greece at least. I dont know other countries. Non of them working for the global fan touch os version. So.. i prefer Chinese that everething is working fast and perfect except android auto and backup to google drive...
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Apart call recording, everything work on global version
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Apart call recording, everything work on global version
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You are from Greece? If yes what provider you have? Because Wind and Cosmote i tried is NOT working...
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You are from Greece? If yes what provider you have? Because Wind and Cosmote i tried is NOT working...
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Which device?
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Which device?
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x70 pro plus
[email protected] said:
x70 pro plus
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Do you have global version? I live in Italy and all works with Vodafone
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Do you have global version? I live in Italy and all works with Vodafone
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A friend have the global fantouch version and i have the chinese version ocean origin os.
He have wind and cosmote and i have cosmote... nothing works on global and everething working on mine.
You have global and vodafone and you have 5G working? And most important you have VoLTE and WiFi Calling working too? If yes the problem then is here in Greece only.