General Android 12/One UI 4 benchmarks Amazingly well! - Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra

I know benchmarks arent everything. But the new update makes the phone absolutely fly. I'm getting scores I never got before.
Disc: The scores were obtained when the ambient temp was in the low 10's degrees centigrade.

from my sd888 version

kaionosei said:
from my sd888 version
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Current generation chips are all thermally limited. If the phone is cold enough, they can boost to their maximum potential. Samsung has gone the route of keeping the phone cool, hence the lower than expected scores.

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what is your Quadrant results ?

my quadrant results are in the 4k while my wife's S2 is in the same range (slightly higher) both without any overclocking
I was happy with 4k but now I wonder why my wife's s2 can achieve similar numbers with no overclocking.
My GN overclocked at 1.7 with performance gov hardly go over 5k
I think I read some quadrant are in the 7k
what's yours ?
guessing here but since the cpu/chipset are the same and the note is a little slower in benchmarks, I'm gonna say its the bigger screen resolution that it has to power, more pixels to push.
Bingo.
I got around 4200. Fully stock.
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I got 5800 quadrant score overclocked at 1.7
and scored 5005 at default 1.4 Ghz of frequency
I am happy with it...
Thanks guys for the input I feel better now
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Thanks guys for the input I feel better now
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well you just made me feel worse, im getting 3900
Quadrant score fluctuates a lot, so I don't know if it is reliable. I had about 5k and the next benchmark I had over 6k, so.... ofcourse, i had it set to 1.7ghz.
Usually around 4000.
1st 3800
2nd 4000
3rd 4200
4th 4600
5th 4700
6th 4600
Not sure which result is accurate even knowing that quadrant means nothing.
Quadrant is such a badly flawed benchmark, it can't even be used to compare the real world performance between two ROMs, let alone two different devices!
Regards,
Dave
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foxmeister said:
Quadrant is such a badly flawed benchmark, it can't even be used to compare the real world performance between two ROMs, let alone two different devices!
Regards,
Dave
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Your proof?
WE hear it all the time but nobody ever explains it.
1.4ghz Non-Overclocked, but massively tweaked and I get:
1st Score: 5900
2nd Score: 6200
3rd Score: 6200
4th Score: 6000
5th Score: 6300
xAnimal5 said:
1.4ghz Non-Overclocked, but massively tweaked and I get:
1st Score: 5900
2nd Score: 6200
3rd Score: 6200
4th Score: 6000
5th Score: 6300
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wow that's impressive!
What kind of tweaks are you taking about?
ArcticCat said:
wow that's impressive!
What kind of tweaks are you taking about?
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Deleted pretty much everything you can to create a stable system
Adjusted the voltages based on my use
Added some build.prop tweaks
Tweaked the system UI for less RAM usage
No background widgets/No background activity
Double checked an triple checked all apps to make sure no mail process is in use
RAM Optmization tweaks
A bunch of other tweaks that I can't recall off the top of my head... haha
My Score ...
this is my score with quadrant !!
seepage said:
Your proof?
WE hear it all the time but nobody ever explains it.
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My personal proof is my own personal experiences, but you only need to Google terms like "quadrant benchmark flawed" to find lots of examples.
I've owned a great number of Android devices, and seen widely varying Quadrant scores, yet not one of them has ever indicated the comparative real world experience between the devices.
For example, my Galaxy Tab 7" would only score around 800 (stock) whereas my Note gets over 3600. Is the Note 4.5 times faster in real world usage - not even close! It is faster, but I would subjectively place the performance at around 1.4x to 1.5x.
In a similar vein, when I changed my Galaxy Tab 7" to use EXT4 instead of RFS, but Quadrant score shot up to nearly 2000, but was it over twice as fast as stock? No, once again not even close! However, it still felt faster in real world usage than my HTC Sensation which gets around 2500 on Quadrant.
Quadrant basically performs a lot of individual benchmarks on a device and then amalgamates the result into a single number. Those individual benchmarks may well be of use, but the ultimate number is derives clearly "weights" each benchmark inconsistently/incorrectly to be of any real use when comparing real world performance.
Ultimately, what do these numbers mean if they can't give you an idea of comparative performance?
I find it quite amusing the number of people on this site who chase high Quadrant scores. It's like comparing an M-series BMW with a regular model which has a M-series bodykit and then saying how they perform based purely on looks.
Regards,
Dave
Phandroid (or AndroidCentral) had an article about the crapyness of Quadrant some time ago.
And actually, a lot of mobile review sites refuses to run Quadrant anymore.
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Apples to apples

My buddy got a Droid DNA the other day. I immediately snatched it up to check it out. What a screen!
Anyway...ran a couple benchmarks and was AMAZED!
Quadrant = 8085
BenchmarkPi = ~280
0.0
Our phone's guts are the same! My Nexus 4 is even overclocked and doesn't come CLOSE...
Just out of curiosity...how is it that my rooted, ROM'd, overclocked Nexus gets its teeth kicked in by a stock Droid DNA?
rmp5s said:
My buddy got a Droid DNA the other day. I immediately snatched it up to check it out. What a screen!
Anyway...ran a couple benchmarks and was AMAZED!
Quadrant = 8085
BenchmarkPi = ~280
0.0
Our phone's guts are the same! My Nexus 4 is even overclocked and doesn't come CLOSE...
Just out of curiosity...how is it that my rooted, ROM'd, overclocked Nexus gets its teeth kicked in by a stock Droid DNA?
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Does it really matter? I don't know about your n4 but mine has zero lag and handles every app and game I have thrown at it with ease. Benchmark scores mean nothing compared to actual use and performance. Dont worry about scores and enjoy your 4.2.2 phone.
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That was quick. Yes, I love my phone, yes it runs extremely well, yes benchmarks aren't perfect.
Now that we got that out of the way...
Wrong section, also the Droid DNA screen is incredibly saturated screen..way more then the N4 thats for sure.
rmp5s said:
That was quick. Yes, I love my phone, yes it runs extremely well, yes benchmarks aren't perfect.
Now that we got that out of the way...
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I mean no disrespect, I just don't understand all the infatuation with benchmark scores. If a phone has zero lag and handles everything one could ask beautifully then why does it matter if it scores low?
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For god's sake, please stop using stupid Quadrant, makes no sense at all.
rmp5s said:
My buddy got a Droid DNA the other day. I immediately snatched it up to check it out. What a screen!
Anyway...ran a couple benchmarks and was AMAZED!
Quadrant = 8085
BenchmarkPi = ~280
0.0
Our phone's guts are the same! My Nexus 4 is even overclocked and doesn't come CLOSE...
Just out of curiosity...how is it that my rooted, ROM'd, overclocked Nexus gets its teeth kicked in by a stock Droid DNA?
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quadrant runs bad on n4, no one seems to know why (prob 4.2.2 reason, 4.1.x seems ok). dunno about pi test.
try antutu, it's recently updated and not built for over year old chipsets. you will see your n4 runs fine
rmp5s said:
My buddy got a Droid DNA the other day. I immediately snatched it up to check it out. What a screen!
Anyway...ran a couple benchmarks and was AMAZED!
Quadrant = 8085
BenchmarkPi = ~280
0.0
Our phone's guts are the same! My Nexus 4 is even overclocked and doesn't come CLOSE...
Just out of curiosity...how is it that my rooted, ROM'd, overclocked Nexus gets its teeth kicked in by a stock Droid DNA?
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quadrant hasnt been updated for years. using quadrant is like using a car from 60's and complaining the heater doesn't heat fast. use antutu and see what you get on both phones.
Exodian said:
I mean no disrespect, I just don't understand all the infatuation with benchmark scores.
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You don't need to understand; OP wasn't directing his post at anyone in particular. Just like MPG, 0-30/60/1/4 mile times, HP, and torque ratings in car reviews help people compare different car models, benchmarks in mobile devices help people make similar comparisons. That's why noted review sites like GSMArena and Anandtech devote 1/3 of their 10+ page reviews to performance benchmarking. I totally agree that if a device's performance meets someone's needs that’s more important than benchmarks. But I also feel performance benchmarks, just like audio, display brightness/contrast, and camera tests serve a legitimate purpose. I've found people that don't like benchmarks are usually device owners on the wrong side of them. Clearly HTC did a better job of optimizing their s/w for S4 Pro than either Google or LG did which, to OP's point, is why the DNA benchmarks so much better. In another thread someone said individual user s/w influences benchmarks. Most of them are low-level tests or use emulators (Sunspider) so what's running (or not) on the device won't influence the result. It is what it is.
Here are some comments from Anandtech talking about the Optimus G's less than steller benchmark performance. It's not due to S4 Pro but it doesn't really matter because the net result is what people experience using the device. Great performance which benchmarks measure takes a combination of s/w and h/w as shown by the DNA comparison OP's made.
Sunspider is lightly threaded and thus doesn't see huge scaling going to four cores. In fact, in this case we're not seeing any real improvement over the dual-core Krait based devices from HTC. It's unclear how much of the Optimus G's performance is due to LG's browser/software stack vs. the underlying hardware.
BrowserMark doesn't look great and the Optimus G's performance is almost certainly due to LG's own browser code. Qualcomm's reference software stack can provide great performance, but it's up to the individual OEM to take advantage of it.​
ooooh it has big numbers ...
HTC will always be laggy running sense!!!
cryshop said:
For god's sake, please stop using stupid Quadrant, makes no sense at all.
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+1
mentioning quadrant should be an automatic beating with the ban-stick
Please use the Nexus 4 vs. Any other phone thread that is a sticky
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Another issue. Performance.

Hello!
I just ran an antutu benchmark on my note and the score is far too low for this phone!!
Any ideas on what's going on?
I'm on stock Oreo BTW.
Skulldron said:
Hello!
I just ran an antutu benchmark on my note and the score is far too low for this phone!!
Any ideas on what's going on?
I'm on stock Oreo BTW.
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If your phone was warm when you ran the test, that will effect the results.
Not used Antutu for a while but there should be an imformation tab, there you can see the battery temperature amongst other details. Try running it again when the battery is around 26-28c.
Hopefully then it will be a normal result.
Just ran Antutu and got 203k on stock Oreo.
These benchmarks are a complete waste of time. Honestly.
kradcliffe said:
These benchmarks are a complete waste of time. Honestly.
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That actually maybe true considering Samsung uses DVFS to fake benchmarks
Also it was warm. One more thing. The benchmark was run at QHD. Does it make a difference.
Benchmarks do not reflect how the device behaves in real life, the really important thing is how your device performs in everyday circumstances or in intense scenarios

Red Magic Vs OnePlus 5T speed test

Hello guys, I've got the OnePlus 5T and I was looking to upgrade to the Red Magic eventually but after watching that speed test video https://youtu.be/okGb8lqg8fA I don't see the RM being any faster and the active cooling seems to be a gimmick of some sort as it runs hotter than the OnePlus 5T as shown in that video. I know the firmware is not final but I seriously doubt they'll do any miracles especially in the stock version...but in the same time I'm scared of getting the Chinese version because it probably won't support Play Store and so on. What do you guys think, should I keep the OP5T?
Well hopefully we'll see more optimization before long on the RM. I haven't had any heat issues, and it has seemed cooler than most. Even when I was running an app to intentionally drain the battery by activating everything it didn't get that hot.
Overall for general performance, you won't see much performance difference between the two. They use a lot of the same components. Theoretically you should see some performance gains with game boost on because it locks the last four cores to their max frequency. No operations used trying to dynamically adjust. Really depends on if the app would even benefit from the frequency boost though.
Harfainx said:
Well hopefully we'll see more optimization before long on the RM. I haven't had any heat issues, and it has seemed cooler than most. Even when I was running an app to intentionally drain the battery by activating everything it didn't get that hot.
Overall for general performance, you won't see much performance difference between the two. They use a lot of the same components. Theoretically you should see some performance gains with game boost on because it locks the last four cores to their max frequency. No operations used trying to dynamically adjust. Really depends on if the app would even benefit from the frequency boost though.
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I guess if the game button triggers the full potential of the CPUs that's why it heats up more than the OP5T which never runs on 100% but somehow manages pretty much the same frame rates. You must be right about whether an app can actually utilise the full potential or not.
skromnia said:
I guess if the game button triggers the full potential of the CPUs that's why it heats up more than the OP5T which never runs on 100% but somehow manages pretty much the same frame rates. You must be right about whether an app can actually utilise the full potential or not.
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Old post revived. But did you see the stress test of antutu in that video ? Nubia tries to stay almost to 100% all the time. That's how a gaming aka performance phone should be.
ben cherian said:
Old post revived. But did you see the stress test of antutu in that video ? Nubia tries to stay almost to 100% all the time. That's how a gaming aka performance phone should be.
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How much battery and CPu temp you have while idle?

Question gaming performance

Well, I was thinking of buying 7 or the pro, but the performance in games has me in doubt, someone has played heavy games, such as Génsei impact, how is the performance in this game
It plays every game fine as long as you don't max out the settings.
EtherealRemnant said:
It plays every game fine as long as you don't max out the settings.
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What do you mean by not maximizing? Because of the heating?
luiwii said:
What do you mean by not maximizing? Because of the heating?
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What I mean is that the games tend to be tuned for their best performance out of the box. If you jack up the settings beyond that, you'll start losing frames, especially in Genshin since just about every Android struggles to get 60FPS maxed out.
Tensor is basically a tweaked Exynos 2100 and as you can see from the guide here, it's a high end performer (look at the table, I don't think they have updated the blurb about Exynos being beaten by a 3 year old chip because that's the 980, the 2100 is much better and the GPU in the Tensor G2 is better than the 2100's anyway).
Genshin Impact Game DB
Get a quick overview on Android smartphones to run Genshin Impact on. All listed data were provided by users and our staff.
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saccording to that table the s21 With the 2100 it performs well, but what about warming up with pixel 7, how will it be, does it lower performance or does it maintain it?
luiwii said:
saccording to that table the s21 With the 2100 it performs well, but what about warming up with pixel 7, how will it be, does it lower performance or does it maintain it?
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All of these devices heat up and throttle, the Pixel is no exception, but its relative average performance is still better than the Exynos 2100.
You can also cut down the heat and increase performance by tweaking down graphics settings obviously. It's not really that noticeable on these displays anyway.
Here you can see it running around 45~60 FPS on high on a Pro. I didn't check if he is running it at 1080p or 1440p though so performance on the 7 may be better or the same. Dude comments that even the 8 Gen 1 has the same frame drops.
Thanks , bro

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