Hi ...
So about Tuesday (14th) morning, my G4 rebooted itself, and went into perpetual bootloop. I bought it on 3/10/2016, so it was out of warranty by a few days. I'd heard, various places online, that people were getting their G4s fixed even out of warranty, but ....
First, I went to the T-Mobile store where I bought the phone. The rep there didn't know about the bootloop issue, and said he wasn't able to help me.
Next, I contacted LG live chat online, and they said they were unable to help because the camera lens is broken. (That happened within a month or so after getting the phone. Even if I didn't tell them up front, they still would have found out when they got it. I'd considered buying a replacement & installing it myself previously, but never could figure out which was the exact OEM model or where to get it.)
I really need to preserve the data that's on the phone. I'm not just talking about pictures, documents, downloaded files, etc (I think camera pics are backed up automatically, but idk about screenshots for example) ... I also mean Wi-Fi credentials, my 60-70+ open Chrome browser tabs & history, txt/mms messages, call logs, voice mails (stored in the T-Mo Visual Voicemail app) - basically everything.
Both T-Mobile and LG, if I understood right, told me that if they took the phone in for repair, one of the first things they'd do is factory reset it, which would wipe out that data, and I can't have that.
I'm at a loss for what to do right now. I really want to get my specific phone's bootloop / motherboard issue fixed, with its data retained, and not get it replaced, at no cost to me. (Don't care so much about the camera, it's still working fine even with the external lens busted off.) If I have to replace the phone, I still need to preserve the data I mentioned above, plus anything else I may have forgotten. (Basically a full system image/clone.) Also I haven't rooted / installed a custom OS.
If replacing with a new phone is in order, I'll want a really good one without breaking the bank. (I was going to keep the G4 until 2020 or 2021, if not longer - my T-Mobile G1 lasted 4.5 years and was a then-lower-end phone at the time than the G4.) I'm still trying to figure out what all I want in the phone, or what my budget is. (I *do* know I don't want anything by Apple, or an equivalent of the G4 or Note 7 of course.) My initial budget idea (ONLY for complete phone replacement, NOT if repair is involved), subject to modification, would include taking the $ I would have used to upgrade my 4790K desktop PC to Ryzen 7, and instead getting a new phone. I'm thinking anywhere from $300 to $800. A few preliminary models that popped up in my search are the LG G6, Galaxy S8, Note 8, 1+5, Pixel/2, and a few other Asian-sounding brands I'm not sure about yet. If it's decided I have to get a new phone, I'll be making another post/thread asking for more advice in detail on that.
pianoplayer88key said:
Hi ...
So about Tuesday (14th) morning, my G4 rebooted itself, and went into perpetual bootloop. I bought it on 3/10/2016, so it was out of warranty by a few days. I'd heard, various places online, that people were getting their G4s fixed even out of warranty, but ....
First, I went to the T-Mobile store where I bought the phone. The rep there didn't know about the bootloop issue, and said he wasn't able to help me.
Next, I contacted LG live chat online, and they said they were unable to help because the camera lens is broken. (That happened within a month or so after getting the phone. Even if I didn't tell them up front, they still would have found out when they got it. I'd considered buying a replacement & installing it myself previously, but never could figure out which was the exact OEM model or where to get it.)
I really need to preserve the data that's on the phone. I'm not just talking about pictures, documents, downloaded files, etc (I think camera pics are backed up automatically, but idk about screenshots for example) ... I also mean Wi-Fi credentials, my 60-70+ open Chrome browser tabs & history, txt/mms messages, call logs, voice mails (stored in the T-Mo Visual Voicemail app) - basically everything.
Both T-Mobile and LG, if I understood right, told me that if they took the phone in for repair, one of the first things they'd do is factory reset it, which would wipe out that data, and I can't have that.
I'm at a loss for what to do right now. I really want to get my specific phone's bootloop / motherboard issue fixed, with its data retained, and not get it replaced, at no cost to me. (Don't care so much about the camera, it's still working fine even with the external lens busted off.) If I have to replace the phone, I still need to preserve the data I mentioned above, plus anything else I may have forgotten. (Basically a full system image/clone.) Also I haven't rooted / installed a custom OS.
If replacing with a new phone is in order, I'll want a really good one without breaking the bank. (I was going to keep the G4 until 2020 or 2021, if not longer - my T-Mobile G1 lasted 4.5 years and was a then-lower-end phone at the time than the G4.) I'm still trying to figure out what all I want in the phone, or what my budget is. (I *do* know I don't want anything by Apple, or an equivalent of the G4 or Note 7 of course.) My initial budget idea (ONLY for complete phone replacement, NOT if repair is involved), subject to modification, would include taking the $ I would have used to upgrade my 4790K desktop PC to Ryzen 7, and instead getting a new phone. I'm thinking anywhere from $300 to $800. A few preliminary models that popped up in my search are the LG G6, Galaxy S8, Note 8, 1+5, Pixel/2, and a few other Asian-sounding brands I'm not sure about yet. If it's decided I have to get a new phone, I'll be making another post/thread asking for more advice in detail on that.
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the safe way is to do the freezer method search and youll find tutorial.. get you data and stuff. use titanium to back up apps with data with the paid app..
raptorddd said:
the safe way is to do the freezer method search and youll find tutorial.. get you data and stuff. use titanium to back up apps with data with the paid app..
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I've heard of the freezer method. I did pop it in the fridge and it almost started to work for a minute, but maybe I should try the freezer. I've also heard of people heating it and getting some temporary use out of it.
I have the paid Titanium Backup on my rooted Galaxy Relay 4G, but I haven't rooted the G4. And, once I went to a new phone, how would I restore without root? (I'd decided not to root until the warranty expired, but it'd be nice to get one that's more friendly to that in the future, also have better full backups, etc.)
Also I've heard there's a way to disable a couple cores & get it working that way, but I have Marshmallow and I hear it requires Lollipop.
pianoplayer88key said:
I've heard of the freezer method. I did pop it in the fridge and it almost started to work for a minute, but maybe I should try the freezer. I've also heard of people heating it and getting some temporary use out of it.
I have the paid Titanium Backup on my rooted Galaxy Relay 4G, but I haven't rooted the G4. And, once I went to a new phone, how would I restore without root? (I'd decided not to root until the warranty expired, but it'd be nice to get one that's more friendly to that in the future, also have better full backups, etc.)
Also I've heard there's a way to disable a couple cores & get it working that way, but I have Marshmallow and I hear it requires Lollipop.
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we have antirollback in h811 if you are in 20i you are okey to downgrade if higher then 20i say 20o then you cant downgrade to lollipop.
not sure how you would go about restoring. your data..
raptorddd said:
we have antirollback in h811 if you are in 20i you are okey to downgrade if higher then 20i say 20o then you cant downgrade to lollipop.
not sure how you would go about restoring. your data..
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Hmm... well since I can't boot (for now) past the LG screen, idk if I can even get TO a place where I can attempt a rollback.
And even if I have to use other methods to get the data back (so long as it doesn't cost much, as in less than the cost of an SD card) ... then another important criteria for my next phone is automatic backup of *everything*, either to the cloud, or to a second removable micro SD card, or something. (And, by backup of everything, I mean full system image basically.)
And the data I'm talking about includes, but is not limited to, call logs, browser history & open tabs (chrome was my primary browser on that phone), sms/mms messages, saved voicemails (in the T-Mobile Visual Voicemail app), and other things that aren't saved in places like Documents, Downloads, DCIM, Pictures, etc.
pianoplayer88key said:
Hmm... well since I can't boot (for now) past the LG screen, idk if I can even get TO a place where I can attempt a rollback.
And even if I have to use other methods to get the data back (so long as it doesn't cost much, as in less than the cost of an SD card) ... then another important criteria for my next phone is automatic backup of *everything*, either to the cloud, or to a second removable micro SD card, or something. (And, by backup of everything, I mean full system image basically.)
And the data I'm talking about includes, but is not limited to, call logs, browser history & open tabs (chrome was my primary browser on that phone), sms/mms messages, saved voicemails (in the T-Mobile Visual Voicemail app), and other things that aren't saved in places like Documents, Downloads, DCIM, Pictures, etc.
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is bootloopng . thats a hardware issue.. i would suggest to do the freezer method .making sure no moist gets in phone.. i think people put in frezzer with cable and recovers their data.
So ... the freezer method has worked (with the phone in a Ziploc bag), at least partially. After turning off WiFi, a few days ago I was able to use ES File Explorer (already installed) to copy the internal phone memory to a 128GB SD card which was only about 10-20% full or so. (I couldn't copy absolutely everything, as my G4 isn't rooted yet.) I did it in stages - first copied several user data folders just in case it croaked mid-backup (it didn't), then did the rest.
Just earlier this morning, I used SuperBackup+ (or whatever it's called, I forget atm & the phone's charging again) to back up a few more things.
Then I went into the settings to see if anything was set to back up to the cloud, or could be backed up. Under "Backup and Reset", it was set to back up to my Google account. I also checked a few other settings.
Right before turning on WiFi again, I opened CPU-Z, to find most of the temps around 8°C. After turning WiFi back on, within seconds most of the temps shot up to the 30s to 60s °C, and the top 2 on the list (which included battery) pegged at 140°C, then the phone rebooted itself. So apparently turning WiFi on quickly overwhelms the phone. (I can't use mobile data, as I took the SIM card out and am using it in my SGH-T699 for now.) It then started up briefly, and while I *think* I may have been able to turn off WiFi again before it rebooted again, it started looping, from what I could tell. (Was probably time to take a break anyway, as I'd been standing there for a good 10-15 minutes or so with the freezer door open.)
I'm still hoping I might have a little bit of life left for backing up, after giving the phone a rest, battery a charge, letting the freezer settle down, and refreezing the phone.
One more thing I'd like to do with the phone - root it. Is there a way to do it without an internet connection, if possible without a computer (although maybe I could shut the freezer door on the USB cable), and for sure without wiping the device? I'd really like to use Titanium Backup Pro (already installed) to back everything up to the 128GB SD card.
Also I've heard about possibly disabling the two fast CPU cores, but also heard that may only work on Lollipop. (My G4 has Marshmallow installed.)
Anyway, right now the phone is plugged in (out of the freezer) and charging again. Interesting thing though ... while it was powered on in the freezer, it was saying I had 51% battery left. (This was right after I'd pulled it off the charger and it said 98-100% or so - the powered-off battery meter.) Then, plugging it back in (again powered off), it said 78%. Is the huge discrepancy in battery percentages temperature related, or indicative of another issue like a weakening battery? (The battery hasn't swelled at all, from what I can tell.)
I think it's time for a new phone soon, though. I might make another topic with more details, but a few I'm looking at maybe are the Asus Zenfone AR, Google Pixel, OnePlus 3T, Samsung Galaxy S7, maybe a few others. (I'm not as sure about the LG G6 or V20.) Other brands under consideration include HTC, Huawei, LeEco, Motorola, Oppo, vivo, Xiaomi & ZTE.
Basically I'd like something that
officially supports rooting / custom ROMs (and stock ROM is as close to vanilla Android as possible),
is officially supported for updates for a good while (for example if it comes with Android 7, I can upgrade to 9 or if possible 10 OTA, and beyond with community-made ROMs),
has a decent CPU/GPU (like SD 820/821/835 & Adreno 530/540),
plenty of RAM (6+ GB),
a decent amount of internal storage (64+ GB),
has either a micro SD slot or supports USB OTG or both,
among other things.
I'm guessing the 1+3T might be the best compromise? (Or stretch the budget & get the Pixel?) Or should I maybe consider waiting for the Pixel 2 or the OnePlus 4/5? Or get one of the other options / something else entirely? (I'd like to buy within the next month or two, if not sooner.) I had been planning to upgrade my desktop PC to AMD Ryzen 7, but figured I'd use the $ I would have spent on that, on the phone instead. (I can limp along on my i7-4790K a while longer, or my laptop's i7-6700K, etc, it'll just be somewhat slower in video editing, multitasking, etc. From what I hear my i7s are maybe faster at 1080p gaming, but I don't game all that much.)
I'm on T-Mobile - the $30/month 5GB+100min plan for now, but eventually tentatively plan to upgrade to unlimited with the unlimited hotspot addon.
Wow where to start? The purchase. So I have a friend pick me up a "like new" Pad A off of craigslist; She was 45min closer to the sale than myself, so hey wtf? Shes got good judgement.. Urm, sge gets to my house with it, and what the he.. no charger NO TYPE C (which I dont have on hand) and tablet is dead dead. So it gets set aside for a couple of days.. I finally get it charged and wtf is this.? Enter in my # off of sales receipt? Oh boy here we go. I had not encountered this DiSa yet, however we made it, I know I can break it, so lets go!
Part 1: Assemble the files
I proceed to go on a downloading frenzy, throwing caution to the wind and downloading everything I can find firmware wise for this thing. Its worth noting that the unit is on Oreo at this point. I locate a combination file fairly early on in the tabs life cycle, on nougat, and blast this infernal thing with odin. Hey cool!? Factory Binary eh? Hey I can sideload to it, so I install a couple of things. Here is where this gets fuzzy...
Part 2: Breaking it
So a couple of apps get installed, I muck around a bit with it, then intentionally try to break it by patching dif boot.img files from other firmwares and flashing, etc etc careless stuff. I end up flashing another, much newer combo file and seem to be back to square one. HOWEVER, I gleamed a bit of useful info that I did not know before: that when flashing the four-file-firmware packs, using the plain CSC files wipes the userdata, where CSC_HOME does not. Lightbulb! I install a couple of apps that were handy for FRP bypassing because you could have them autostart, then.....
Part 3a: Oreo and F*^% My Mobile
I install the latest firm I could find, a Oreo build (AP_T380DXU2BRK2_CL14346227_QB20632006_REV00_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT_meta) from late last year. To my joy, it booted up and DiSa was gonzo'ed. Yay! So I quickly blast through setup, frantically hit that build version 50 times to show it whose the developer boss, OEM Unlock TWRP here I come. Not so fast it says, for I still have some unpaid balance or some horse sh%%$. Ah man!
Part 3b:: Fool My Mobile
So I do a little research, and hey this has already been beat! COOOOOL. Throwing caution to the wind, I locate the required patched version of Miracle Box 2.58, run it, with it running set my date two years back on PC, cllosed MB, put tab in download mode, re-run MB, go to Samsung tab, check the Reset ReActivation/EE radio button, click start, it blips and bleeps and hisses and whirs... Reset into DL mode to check lock status.... TOTALLY GONE. Not even a mention of that hideous thing!
Part 4: TWRP, Etc.
All this has been covered in depth already so we wont beat that dead horse. Use Magisk to patch boot.img, flash patched booty.img.tar, everything goes awsy one last time. WINNER! It is, however, worth noting that if doing this on Oreo, you have to manually decompress the boot.img.lz4 file with lz4.exe (if in windows) with something like: lz4.exe -d boot.img.lz4 boot.img.ext4 ... then feed that file to Magisk. Anyhow, from DiSa and FMM locked to TWRP Root and happys in nuttin flat. Hope this entertained somebody
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Miracle used on COMBO firmware, BIT 2 binary. RMM goes away permanently it seems.
Flashed the Firmware referenced. Magically OEM unlock became available on first boot. Crazy. OEM unlocking enabled, and OEM LOCK OFF.
Up and running. Thanks for the reference.
I'm sorry if this is a dumb question or over asked, I'm new and could really use some help
so my note 9 messed up last night and the screen wouldn't turn on, I could plug the charger in and it would vibrate and the red dot would come, I did the reset holding the lock button and volume down, and it didn't fix it, the only way to get the screen on was by constantly plugging and unplugging the charger and maybe after 5 or 20 min it would turn on. So I kept trying the rest since I couldn't turn it off normally and it didn't change anything, and in doing that I some how factory reset the phone without backing up over 1000 photos, I started to Google and got a lot of people saying that the photos could still be there locked away waiting to be overwritten but I would need to root my phone and get in there with certain programs, with further googling I found that my phone Samsung note 9 with snapdragon can't yet be rooted because the locked bootloader and there isn't an easy way to unlock it, i saw there was one way but that involved erasing everything on the phone. So my questions are are my photos actually buried in the phone and I need to figure out how to root it or are they just gone and if its the former, is there a way to root it without erasing everything, if that erases the hidden files, because if they are just gone this phone is going in the garbage, not even two years old and it bricked
I posted this on reddit before I found this place, sorry if this is misuse of the forum I could just really use some help,some of the photos were very sentimental and I just want to know if they could possibly still be there
Old android version(probly ics or lower) allowed the internal storage to be mounted as usb storage in computer. Then can use recovery program such as recuva to recover the deleted files, without root. However that day has long gone. Probably there is a program out there could recover your files/photos. I used to read somewhere that a windows based program claims to be able to do that but I can't recall what was it. In short, they're unlikely can be recovered. But let's wait if anybody else could shed us some lights.
Rosli59564 said:
Old android version(probly ics or lower) allowed the internal storage to be mounted as usb storage in computer. Then can use recovery program such as recuva to recover the deleted files, without root. However that day has long gone. Probably there is a program out there could recover your files/photos. I used to read somewhere that a windows based program claims to be able to do that but I can't recall what was it. In short, they're unlikely can be recovered. But let's wait if anybody else could shed us some lights.
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Everything I looked up said with snapdragon there is only one way some people figured out but I think it also said it deletes everything, not sure hopefully someone has tried it before, thanks for the comment
Google to samsung center, may be they can help you.
hoalaxanh123 said:
Google to samsung center, may be they can help you.
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I chatted with someone through Samsung website and he said there was nothing they could do if it wasn't backed up, or do you mean a physical samsung place?
Samsung repair shop .
Neileo96 said:
I chatted with someone through Samsung website and he said there was nothing they could do if it wasn't backed up, or do you mean a physical samsung place?
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It's sad to hear that. I think your problem might be the battery, go to some repair store and check your battery, everything I know. If you want to save your data (photo, video....), the first thing you have to do is make your phone usable, right? I recommend you go to the Samsung center, tell them your problem, may be you will get some solution that may resolve your issue. We are users, we are not developers so everything we can do is seek help from someone and in this situation please go to a Samsung center, maybe God will smile at you.
P/s: did you check your data in google cloud and Samsung cloud? As i know your data like photos or video will auto-sync with your Google account and Samsung account, may be you will get lucky.
https://photos.google.com/
https://support.samsungcloud.com/#/login
Sorry if that didn't help you and my bad English.
Hi All,
I have recently changed my firmware from Chinese to Eu with fast boot enhance I hate bloatware and every time I reset/format my phone the Chinese bloat is reinstalled is there any way I can delete it so it is no longer on my phone/ROM/storage and stop it reinstalling when I format the phone???
kruhmp said:
Hi All,
I have recently changed my firmware from Chinese to Eu with fast boot enhance I hate bloatware and every time I reset/format my phone the Chinese bloat is reinstalled is there any way I can delete it so it is no longer on my phone/ROM/storage and stop it reinstalling when I format the phone???
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I have zero Chinese bloat on my UK/EU phone.
What you could do is ADB uninstall each app, then make a script to uninstall the apps via a batch file.
Bit of setting up but it's not hard to do.
Has to have something to do with the model..
What has remained the same since changing over to the EU firmware? Id say you could maybe try to spoof that but how you'd do that and retain it after a format I'm not sure.
It is a Chinese phone with euro firmware installed with fastboot enhance, are these unwanted apps somehow hardcoded into the phone? are there any methods with root to permanently delete them?
OnePlus truly dropped the ball by not making it easy to switch from Hydrogen to Oxygen. I'm regretting so much buying this phone, been with them since the One and this is a complete derailment of their core identity. Last OnePlus for me.
Ultimatum99 said:
OnePlus truly dropped the ball by not making it easy to switch from Hydrogen to Oxygen. I'm regretting so much buying this phone, been with them since the One and this is a complete derailment of their core identity. Last OnePlus for me.
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I feel your pain there, personally wouldn't buy Chinese though, not direct anyway..
Defo should be able to change all this and you can....I think it's a small price to pay for the money you saved.
@kruhmp
I think something identifying on your phone is giving OOS the green light to pull these files in.
May be the serial or IMEI or even the model..
2 of these can't really be spoofed..
I would go with the uninstall batch file, once it's made it's a double click and they're gone.
Once custom ROMs are available this issue won't occur.