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Hi there,
let me first thank you for this great site you put up here!
And here comes my question:
I want to hook up my USB GPS Mouse (made for the notebook -
meaning it get's it's power via USB) up to my XDA.
And now I wonder if I can simply solder the data +/- cables
from the USB Mouse to the USB data +/- pins on the XDA plug
(so I could still use the same cable for ActiveSync on the PC),
or if I have to solder the data +/- cables from the USB mouse
to the serial RX/TX pins as described on the 'The XDA's connectors'
page of this site...
I was planning to hook both the GPS and the XDA up to my car
power adaptor in a kind of a Y constellation:
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::__________ Power
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::/
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::/
::::::::::::::XDA ----------
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::\
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::\___________ GPS
and use Power for both.
Maybe someone can tell me about the data hookup.
Thanks, Lars.
I don't have answers but some things you have to consider.
1) The XDA is a slave device. I presume the GPS receiver is one too. I really wonder if they can communicate with eachother
2) Based on how you describe this you want to power the receiver from the the car. I assume you have checked the right voltage requirements for the receiver and that the powersupply can deliver the currents required for both the XDA and the receiver. My personal experience is that the latter shouldn't be too much of a problem, but it can't hurt to check.
3) Combining USB and Serial the way you describe it is not a good idea. (mark the last character '.' as in PERIOD).
Robert
Power Supply
Hi Robert,
thanks for your suggestions.
Indeed both (the original ActiveSync cable from the XDA and the
USB GPS) get their power off a USB port on the notebook so
this must be the same voltage requirements.
This ActiveSync cable is a combined car charging cable with an
USB 'A' type connector on the end which you can plug either into
the USB port on the notebook (where it also ActiveSync's) or into
the car's power adapter (where it only charges).
So this both same voltage. And the car power adaptor should
nominally supply enough power for both...
But I don't understand what you said about it not beeing a good
idea to hook up the USB data to the SERIAL data.
When plugged into the notebook in WinXP the USB GPS installs
a 'Prolific USB-to-Serial COM5' to emulate to the programms
working with it a com5 (or com1 or com2 depending on your
hardware settings) communications port. So I guess the data
coming from the USB GPS is just the same as if delivered via
serial cable and all the driver does is faking to be a serial port
to any programm asking for data from com5.
And I think a USB device is 'not really' a passive device as it starts
popping out ASCII data strings as soon as it get's power (no matter
if there is a device to read the data or not).
So I figure when you plug it into the XDA and tell the XDA by means
of USB wakeup (USB_VDD pin 13) that there is an active USB
connection, that it will start trying to figure out what the heck the
connected cable is trying to tell it.
And here is the tricky part where I don't know if the XDA might not
believe it is beeing Sync'ed and therefore starts ActiveSync.
Anyone with any experience or suggestions there...??
(Sorry for the rather lenghty post)
Greetings, Lars.
Lars,
seems like you got the power all figures out
regarding the usb/serial discussion.
If I understand you correctly you can plug the USB connector of the GPS receiver into the USB port of the PC.
'somewhere' in the PC this is modified into a virutal serial port in order to enable serialport aware programs to work with the GPS receiver as well.
This is a good concept but at an electrical level that still means that the GPS receiver is connected in an USB fashion. There is nothing Serial Port about that. In a way you already pointed that out in your messages by using the word 'emulate'.
You can hook it up to the USB part of the XDA but still I doubt about the master/slave discussion of USB.
Regards Robert
No cahnce.
Save yourself time/money.
Forget it.
Lars said:
Hi there,
let me first thank you for this great site you put up here!
And here comes my question:
I want to hook up my USB GPS Mouse (made for the notebook -
meaning it get's it's power via USB) up to my XDA.
And now I wonder if I can simply solder the data +/- cables
from the USB Mouse to the USB data +/- pins on the XDA plug
(so I could still use the same cable for ActiveSync on the PC),
or if I have to solder the data +/- cables from the USB mouse
to the serial RX/TX pins as described on the 'The XDA's connectors'
page of this site...
I was planning to hook both the GPS and the XDA up to my car
power adaptor in a kind of a Y constellation:
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::__________ Power
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::/
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::/
::::::::::::::XDA ----------
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::\
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::\___________ GPS
and use Power for both.
Maybe someone can tell me about the data hookup.
Thanks, Lars.
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Guess U R right
Hi Guys thanx for the feedback,
I spent an afternoon researching on this stuff and am very disappointed that I have to admit you are both right.
Now way (other than putting some 'intelligent' converter between the USB GPS and the RX/TX pins of the XDA) to make the USB 'language' sound like 'SERIALean'.
I think there should still be a possibility:
Let everything run via the USB, persuade the XDA it's not ActiveSync talking to it and write a driver that talks to the GPS via the open USB connection and sends the proper commands to recieve the NMEA ASCII.
And then you would still need to tell your route software to take the incoming data from the virtual (or emulated) COM port...
And when I read the above chapter once more :shock: I find this is definitly not a job for me!!
So I will just get a serial GPS an hook it up the nomal way.
Cheers and thanx again, Lars.
Hi,
Just read your post. I am new to pda land. Just bought a xda2
I have a laptop which I use with a gps usb mouse via usb on the laptop. Am I right in thinking that I could have bought a ps2 mouse and used a ps2 changer to usb and it would have worked??
If so can't I buy a usb to ps2 changer in order to plug into a car connection cable which has the ps2 and the xda conection and a ciger lighter plug for power? OR is there a similar cable for a usb connect for gps?
Am I missing something here?
Thanks
P
Hiya,
I just got my cable from expansys, the vga and s-video out is working fine, but i haven't got any thing usb to work yet. I've tried flash Drives and a card reader, just no response, no light or any thing... is there a trick to it or is it not very compatable or is there a chance mine is faulty?
cheers
My guess is that although it is a Host, it does not supply any power, I say this because the battery is only 3.7 V DC and USB devices are 5 V DC, this means that there is not enough Volts in the advantage to power a USB device to start with, never mind powering a USB device and an Advantage at the same time.
You will probably need to plug it into a USB hub that supplies it's own power, like this one
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/USB-2-0-4-Por...106823769QQcategoryZ96866QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I had the same problem but it was because the TV out was still on. Once I turned this off in the settings menu it worked fine.
I too had no trouble hooking up a flash drive. No other peripherals were attached to the cable. Alas, no go on a hard-drive MP3 player, but trying a powered hub is a good idea.
Have you tried connecting your USB device, and then soft resetting?
Works for me.
I have no detection of USB devices by my Advantage.
I tried with and withour Soft Reset before and after the cable connection, before and after the cable and flash drive connection, with or without the VGA or Video Output disabled or enabled, but my Advantage does not recognize any USB device (I tried with 2 flash drive, a keyborad and an optical mouse. Nothing to do. These devices do not work with my Advantage).
It seems that the relative drivers are missing.
Someone has a sure fix or solution to this problem ??
Thanks
Battery Powered USB Hub...
This device should work well with the x7500/Advantage. It doesn't require you to carry around a bulky power plug. It runs off of 4 AAA batteries and provides power for up to 4 USB devices. Since the x7500/Advantage has limited power and can't power external drives itself, this is a nice addition and cheap. Hope someone finds it useful.
http://www.radioshack.com/sm-cyberpower-4-port-battery-powered-hub--pi-2259675.html
I have the Dopod U1000. I have connected a thumb drive and a USB mouse without issue. The mouse is useless as far as I can tell as there is no pointer though the buttons work.
I have no problems with a T-Mobile Ameo and a 1Gb Corsair USB Flashdrive - don't even need a soft reset. It's listed as 'Hard Disk' on the Ameo.
Question though: can I just unplug it when done? I'm used to 'safely removing hardware' on the PC, and it just feels wrong unplugging it from the Ameo, but I can't see any similar 'safely remove' method.
Hi.
It depends of the usb device. My 1GB pen drive is recognized but my 4GB isnt recognized (my 160 GB isnt). So I suppose If the usb device isnt powered then only "very low powered" devices are recognized...
If I connect my 160 GB and I plug it to AC then It is recognized correctly...
Does mini usb-usb host cable exist? Where to buy it?
THX!
Look this one http://www.pixmania-pro.it/it/it/255677/art/cowon-iaudio/cavo-usb-host.html#
seems to be what I'm looking for...don't you?
spmc said:
I have the Dopod U1000. I have connected a thumb drive and a USB mouse without issue. The mouse is useless as far as I can tell as there is no pointer though the buttons work.
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Search the forum for the Modaco Mouse driver. It has a mouse pointer and works flawlessly with a USB Mouse!
4 in 1 Cable
I found te following description of this cable:
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=145166
The HTC SC V100 4-in-1 cable can split the HTC proprietary 16-pin interface on the Advantage into these 4 functions:
- USB 1.1 host (supports USB low power): Plug USB accessories into the USB standard A female port. The host can support these accessories:
1. Thumbdrive
2. Card reader
3. USB keyboard
4. USB mouse
- VGA output: Connect the Advantage to output the screen contents to a projector or PC monitor
- TV output – S-video: Connect the Advantage to output the screen contents to a TV through the S-video interface
- TV output – Composite Video: Connect the Advantage to output the screen contents to a TV through the composite video interface (AV cable)
Technical Details:
Resolution: 640 x 480 pixels, 262K colours
Cable length: 100mm ± 10mm
Connectors support:
- HTC specific 16-pin male for connecting to the Advantage
- USB standard A (Female)
- VGA D-sub (Female)
- S-video (4-pin) out (Female)
- Composite video out (Female)
4
Hi,
I have the HTC 4 in 1 cable for the T-Mobile Ameo (HTC Advantage 7500) and the ability to access a USB thumbdrive or stick appears to depend on the device.
The following devices worked without a hitch:
- Kingston DataTraveler 1GB
- Q motion 1 GB
- SanDisk MobileMate SD+ (This a SD card reader in a USB stick format, very handy to copy data from a SD/miniSD/microSD card to your 7500 without going through Activesync)
Another noname USB stick that I had did not work.
So the trick is to find a low powered USB stick.
Cheers,
Tim
Please can someone give me some exaples about how could I use
Video/S-Video/ option in 4 in 1 cable, considering that I can image how to properly use VGA out and USB host?
THX so much!
Hi,
before I buy it, could it work?
USB 2.0 (compatible 1.x)
Adapter USB from Type A (female) to mini USB 5pin (male)
THX so much!
asci said:
Hi,
before I buy it, could it work?
USB 2.0 (compatible 1.x)
Adapter USB from Type A (female) to mini USB 5pin (male)
THX so much!
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Yes, that should work for you. I'm sure it's not more than $5.00 USD. ;-)
asci said:
Hi,
before I buy it, could it work?
USB 2.0 (compatible 1.x)
Adapter USB from Type A (female) to mini USB 5pin (male)
THX so much!
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Are you hoping to connect USB accessories to your Athena with this?
If so, it will not work.
Only the 4 in 1 Host cable connected to the ext USB socket will do that.
This adaptor will only connect to the Sync & Charge socket, and will not provide USB Host capabilities.
Pantaloonie said:
Are you hoping to connect USB accessories to your Athena with this?
If so, it will not work.
Only the 4 in 1 Host cable connected to the ext USB socket will do that.
This adaptor will only connect to the Sync & Charge socket, and will not provide USB Host capabilities.
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So it will not provide me host function...?
Than the HTC cable should have something like a "chip" in it to provide host, is it right?
Yes, the USB Host chip must be either in the addon cable, or linked to the extUSB socket in the Athena. But definitely not the sync & charge socket.
I'm a flooring salesmen and one of my potential clients/builders has a Touch Pro that suddenly won't sink to his pc.
He has a pc running XP with Activesync 4.5
When he plugs his phone in nothing happens... When he clicks on Activesync and clicks "Connect" it doesn't find his phone.
What is going on?
Please help. Thx
-BjM
Hi there,
is the windows responsive when he plugs in his diamond (usb notice in the lower right corner) or any other usb device? Maybe try diffrent usb ports...
smurf
Check if the device is recognized as an external drive - there's an option in the settings where this can be changed. (Connection Settings / USB to PC) You can either connect as external drive or by ActicveSync with some devices.
Also, quality of the USB cable can make a difference.
I've also found that connecting through a USB hub never works reliably; plug it directly into the computer.
If none of these work, the USB controller of the computer might be kaputt. Do other USB devices work in the same port?
Does the Touch sync on other PCs with ActiveSync?
Hello Members, i'm not a developer, but have a Note GT - N7000 uk version running Gingerbread 2.3.6. , so i would very grateful for you help.
I've bought two 'USB On The Go' adapters, one was not Samsung, one is. When i plug in any adapter the phone see's it, if i plug in a mouse or keyboard, wired or wireless the phone reads it saying...keyboard connected or Mouse connected, but no mouse pointer appears, nor does the keyboard types anything.
If i plug in any USB flash drive, it is always read and i can see all the files.
What's going on? I get the feeling ther's nothing mechanically wronge with the phone, but feel it maybe a data issue.
A bluetooth keyboard or mouse has no problems working, but using a keyboard/mouse this way seem's less responsive via bluetooth, than USB wireless.
I've included a screenshot from my 'about' screen, any help would be really helpful.
Kind regards
Livio
i was using the Smart Dock, for about 6 months, and it was running perfect, i saw movies, and play games (emus, and android games) using a ps3 controller wired, on the Dock´s USB, and every time work perfectly.
But suddenly, it stop working, now its dificult to connect, i connect it, and in the phone screen appears the "HDMI cable connected", but after a few seconds appears "HDMI cable disconnected", and then, the message appears one after one,
and when it work, the screen mirroring runs well, but when i connect a mouse (wired) dont work, neither the ps3 controller or a pendrive, the USB Host of the Dock is not working,
I try using a USB OTG, and connect both mouse and ps3 controller, and both work well, but not in the Dock
anny suggestions?
Sorry for the long post
You probably are, but just in case, I'll ask anyway..... Are you using a powerful enough charger (1.8-2.0 maH output) .... e.g-the one that came with the note 2? And are the cables snugly snapped into place and not loosely connected?
Sent from my SPH-L900 using xda premium
omar_alex01 said:
i was using the Smart Dock, for about 6 months, and it was running perfect, i saw movies, and play games (emus, and android games) using a ps3 controller wired, on the Dock´s USB, and every time work perfectly.
But suddenly, it stop working, now its dificult to connect, i connect it, and in the phone screen appears the "HDMI cable connected", but after a few seconds appears "HDMI cable disconnected", and then, the message appears one after one,
and when it work, the screen mirroring runs well, but when i connect a mouse (wired) dont work, neither the ps3 controller or a pendrive, the USB Host of the Dock is not working,
I try using a USB OTG, and connect both mouse and ps3 controller, and both work well, but not in the Dock
anny suggestions?
Sorry for the long post
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I have this problem too!! none of the USB ports are functioning, however USB accessories all work with my Note 2 via OTG cable (I tried connecting the OTG cable to the Smart Dock too and this didn't work either)
djbenetti said:
I have this problem too!! none of the USB ports are functioning, however USB accessories all work with my Note 2 via OTG cable (I tried connecting the OTG cable to the Smart Dock too and this didn't work either)
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I have exactly the same problem with all 3 USB ports. HDMI works fine. Is there any special setting or my dock is faulty?
I think they must be faulty, either the unit itself or possibly the charger, or the charger for some reason is not strong enough to power the USB ports (although that seems strange as everything is official Samsung product, and I've tried using my phone power adapter too which ostensibly is the same)
Yes the charger in the dock is 100% the same with the one in the phone packaging. I tried to power the dock through my laptop without any success. Unfortunately, there is not powered problem.