Question Asus Zenfone 9 - ASUS ZenFone 8

Hoping the zenfone 9 keeps more or less same form factor 5.9 inch and upto 16 gigs of ram but put in a bigger battery. Which prevented the 8 from being a great phone.

I would love to see a 6.2" screen with better screen to body ratio and just a little bigger body to accomodate a 5000mAh battery. Zf8 is so compact, that it can grow a milimeter or 2 in every direction.

I would love to see a Zenfone 9 mini with the dimensions of iPhone 13 mini, Cam with OIS, midrange soc, stereo speaker, Amoled.

I would settle even for the size of the iphone 8 / SE 2020.

... i would love to see a zenfone 9.

That's not so easy. If you aim for a bigger battery, they need to make the phone larger. People calling for a larger battery are missing the point that you actually want to improve durability, not size of the battery. It can also be solved with more efficient SoCs, or more efficient software. This is the only way we can keep the small form factor. Also note that smaller phones need less battery due to smaller display, so the mAh are not comparable between compact and regular sized phone.
16 GB for Zenfone 8 is already available, just costs a few extra dollars.

Mario545 said:
That's not so easy. If you aim for a bigger battery, they need to make the phone larger. People calling for a larger battery are missing the point that you actually want to improve durability, not size of the battery. It can also be solved with more efficient SoCs, or more efficient software. This is the only way we can keep the small form factor. Also note that smaller phones need less battery due to smaller display, so the mAh are not comparable between compact and regular sized phone.
16 GB for Zenfone 8 is already available, just costs a few extra dollars.
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The battery would actually be better if the SoC wasn't so inneficient at idle/low loads. Hopefully the wait for the Zenfone 9 is because Asus is waiting for Qualcomm to release the rumoured TSMC-built 8Gen1 which should be much better than the Samsung-made chips like the current 8Gen1 or 888

Asus Zenfone 9 official product video leaks revealing phone design and specs - GSMArena.com news
Asus Zenfone 9 official product video leaks revealing phone design and specs - GSMArena.com news
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Seems like Asus is about to release another proper compact phone.
I like that they ditched the under display fp sensor.
I've already decided to buy one, after the release.

pecholino said:
Asus Zenfone 9 official product video leaks revealing phone design and specs - GSMArena.com news
Asus Zenfone 9 official product video leaks revealing phone design and specs - GSMArena.com news
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Seems like Asus is about to release another proper compact phone.
I like that they ditched the under display fp sensor.
I've already decided to buy one, after the release.
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Will definitely get one, given the fp sensor.

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Is Oneplus3 worth over Xiaomi mi5?

Hi guys,sorry for this lame question.I got Xiaomi mi5 64gb version.I'm thinking to sell it and buy Oneplus 3.My point is op3 worth buying if I already got Xiaomi mi5? I didn't have any problem with Xiaomi untill now.Will op3 give me better expirience?
Kambz1994 said:
Hi guys,sorry for this lame question.I got Xiaomi mi5 64gb version.I'm thinking to sell it and buy Oneplus 3.My point is op3 worth buying if I already got Xiaomi mi5? I didn't have any problem with Xiaomi untill now.Will op3 give me better expirience?
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"Better experience" is a broad and subjective term, there would never be any definitive answer for that. However, you should normally get 'yes' in OP3 forum and 'no' here (some abnormal people say 'yes' here, wonder why they keep reading mi5 forum if they don't like it).
Im deciding too but prefer the size of the Mi5 and the fact its £100 cheaper than the OP3 if you get a 32GB version.
If you already have Mi 5, I don't think it's worth buying OP3 since the hardware is mostly the same.
Things that differentiate OP3 from Mi 5:
- Oxygen OS: If you love stock Android, this is a big plus since Oxygen OS is basically stock Android with some new features. You also get ambient display and gestures while display is off.
- 5.5'' AMOLED Screen: Bigger display (bigger phone size). Better contrast. Saves battery when displaying dark colors. More saturated but you can use SRGB mode.
- Metal unibody: If you prefer metal unibodies, OP3 is a plus. Mi 5 I believe is using glass/ceramic with a metal frame.
- RAM: OP3 comes with 6GB but it's overkill. Mi 5 is perfectly fine with 3/4 GB of RAM. Heck even my gaming PC has "only" 8 GB of RAM.
- Storage: OP3 comes only with 64 GB while Mi 5 has 32/64/128 GB options. Mi 5's 64 GB option is also cheaper than OP3 64 GB.
Camera is basically the same on both phones. They have the same sensor (IMX298), OIS, 16 MP and f/2.0 lenses.
Both have 3000 mAh batteries. OP3 is Li-Ion and Mi 5 is Li-Po.
If you are an audiophile though, I've read that Mi 5 uses Qualcomm's Aqstic (DAC, amp + codec) which is the same setup as HTC 10 and will give you much better sound quality than OP3, since OP3 doesn't have that (I can't find any reference that it has Aqstic) although it's rocking the same SoC (Snapdragon 820).
ChillyChan said:
If you already have Mi 5, I don't think it's worth buying OP3 since the hardware is mostly the same.
Things that differentiate OP3 from Mi 5:
- Oxygen OS: If you love stock Android, this is a big plus since Oxygen OS is basically stock Android with some new features. You also get ambient display and gestures while display is off.
- 5.5'' AMOLED Screen: Bigger display (bigger phone size). Better contrast. Saves battery when displaying dark colors. More saturated but you can use SRGB mode.
- Metal unibody: If you prefer metal unibodies, OP3 is a plus. Mi 5 I believe is using glass/ceramic with a metal frame.
- RAM: OP3 comes with 6GB but it's overkill. Mi 5 is perfectly fine with 3/4 GB of RAM. Heck even my gaming PC has "only" 8 GB of RAM.
- Storage: OP3 comes only with 64 GB while Mi 5 has 32/64/128 GB options. Mi 5's 64 GB option is also cheaper than OP3 64 GB.
Camera is basically the same on both phones. They have the same sensor (IMX298), OIS, 16 MP and f/2.0 lenses.
Both have 3000 mAh batteries. OP3 is Li-Ion and Mi 5 is Li-Po.
If you are an audiophile though, I've read that Mi 5 uses Qualcomm's Aqstic (DAC, amp + codec) which is the same setup as HTC 10 and will give you much better sound quality than OP3, since OP3 doesn't have that (I can't find any reference that it has Aqstic) although it's rocking the same SoC (Snapdragon 820).
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Mi5 is Best Quality Phone
yes it is worth it. go for 1+3.
If you like larger displays, or oversaturated AMOLEDs, yeah sure the OnePlus 3 will improve your experience. Otherwise you could just unlock and flash your Mi 5.
The difference I reckon would be that unlocking OnePlus phones is a very easy process and do not void any warranties.
yes I think it's worth it. Go for it
I think in my opinion,MI5 have better battery life. If you want more ram,one plus three.
leledumbo said:
... some abnormal people say 'yes' here, wonder why they keep reading mi5 forum if they don't like it...
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That's what is called having a perspective from all POV.
Xiaomi is notorious in releasing bug-free kernel sources. MIUI was the best in its fifth version (my opinion) and then onward, every iterations has been a crappy ride. And without a proper source code release - the custom ROMs have tough time to work flawlessly. Xiaomi has always been non-cooperative with the Dev community. And have you ever visited Xiaomi forum? I mean... come on!! Whose fertile idea was it to force you to post a "comment" before you can download something (almost all of the time) !!!
OnePlus 3 is a Dev friendly device. Can you give instance of one more company, who releases the source code even before the official release of the device itself?? (Before someone pounds in - yes, I know it was all a part of the large publicity stunts - then again we the users are benefited at the end). I only wish OnePlus 3 came out with a QuadHD IPS-LCD. Personally, I despise Amoled panels.
SogaBan said:
That's what is called having a perspective from all POV.
And have you ever visited Xiaomi forum? I mean... come on!! Whose fertile idea was it to force you to post a "comment" before you can download something (almost all of the time) !!!
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I'm a diamond member there. That "feature" is poster intention, normal ROM and important tools downloads don't need it. Posters hide download links in their post to gain reputation, to become higher level members as well. It's a system that makes MIUI forum looks active, despite most comments are only "thanks" or "great".
The MI 5 is better than the OP3 only in one aspect : its smaller size. Otherwise, the OP3 is better about :
- sturdiness (remember the iPhone 6 bendgate ? the MI 5 is much worse)
- android development (just compare their xda forums)
- LTE frequencies
Since you are from Croatia, MI 5 does not support LTE band 20 (800MHz), I think that would be the deal breaker.
leledumbo said:
... Posters hide download links in their post to gain reputation, to become higher level members as well. It's a system that makes MIUI forum looks active...
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You see - that was my point precisely! Why would you even 'allow' to encourage the poster(s) to demonstrate a 'reputation-gaining-mechanism' ?!?
And no, that never makes any forum active - all it makes is to create a lot of 'off-the-track' distracting post(s) in the middle of the main discussion thread.
And I am a diamond member too there (with the same name and icon).
Returning back to the main question - OP3 is an unparalleled bargain in the same price segment - grab it with all your might. By the way, I am also keeping an eye on the newly released Mi5S Plus which comes with quite attractive attributes. I doubt what will its price be?
mi5 is lighter, fits well to normal user pockets
oneplus3 is well developed contract to mi5, because xiaomi did not release the kernel source completely.
soushi0825 said:
oneplus3 is well developed contract to mi5, because xiaomi did not release the kernel source completely.
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Wrong. They did. It's even posted here on xda...
i have oneplus3 but i ordered mi5 because its smaller, and have same camera sensor..
Vihru said:
i have oneplus3 but i ordered mi5 because its smaller, and have same camera sensor..
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Why didn't you get the 5s? Has better camera
ermacwins said:
Why didn't you get the 5s? Has better camera
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its not that small as mi5..
Guys should i buy mi5 or spend £100 more and get oneplus 3? how much different is the android developing between the two? What I mean is, if oneplus has a score of 10/10 for android developing then what will the mi5 get?

[DISCUSSION] What phone do you buy next time and why?

My biggest reasons to leave Samsung is because of the updates and features that doesn't come to older devices like features of the s7 to the s6. I'm really really sick of samsungs updates always late.
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I will buy maybe the OP4 or PIXEL 2 or Nokia P1 snapdragon variants for aosp roms.
Nokia P1 : Snapdragon 835 chipset, 6 GB RAM and 23 MP camera, QHD resolution display AMOLED, IP68 water and dust resistance
Pixel 2 : Snapdragon 835 chipset, 6 GB RAM and Dual Cameras, QHD resolution display AMOLED
OnePlus 4/5 : Snapdragon 835 chipset, 6/8 GB RAM and 21MP or 23MP camera, QHD resolution display AMOLED, a 4,000mAh battery
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I just want to know what phone you gonna buy next time and why?
Well I just need that old Nokia 3310 again no one can compete with its battery life
Abhishek013 said:
Well I just need that old Nokia 3310 again no one can compete with its battery life
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i hope they make a hard comeback love to see them again
We have a well established dedicated thread for this, here,
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179
Thread closed. Thanks!

The perfect smartphone

Just some fun food for thought....
What attributes of what phones would make your perfect smart phone?
For me,
body dimensions, the height of a pixel 3, width of my old nexus 6p (dont like how modern smaller smartphones are more narrow)
5.5" screen & smaller bezels of the pixel 3
great front facing speakers of my old nexus 6p.
pixel 3s camera
specs & battery of the oneplus 6t
stock android
if I just described a phone that already exists, let me know lol
Give me a Sony Z Ultra with updated hardware.
Wait, isn't that what a Note 9 is ??
One Plus 6T is the best phone right now.
XIAOMI Mi 8 ?
Galaxy S10 maybe?
Roksimusi said:
XIAOMI Mi 8 ?
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Its good value for the price but its far from perfect since Xiaomi cuts corners on hardware. The amoled display on the Mi8 is subpar for instance, and theres comon display issues like color banding, poor led backlighting etc. And theres always the luck of the draw issue with Xiaomi with some people getting better hardware.
The perfect smartphone :
5.5" borderless
B20 & B28
NFC
Fingerprint under screen
Face ID with the same or more secure than iPhone
A little notch for the Face ID and face camera
Please chinese constructor, create this smartphone (Xiaomi Mi9 )
Stock Android Phones are perfect
6” 18:9 1440p Super AMOLED Display
No notch, holes or curves in display
Front facing speakers as loud or louder the the G7 or Razer Phone
Bezels not to big or smalls. My hands wrap around those kinds of phones and mess up things.
16MP Wide angle and standard lenses front and back with Google Camera Port
In display finger print reader
Near stock Android with extra features like AOD
32bit DAC with, oh a headphone jack
Type C fast charging and Wireless charging
SD Card slot
Snapdragon 855 or newer
A large enough battery to power it all for a reasonable amount of time
What else...
To me it sound like the V40 and Pixel 3 XL had a baby
In my case:
No notch. Even if it can be disabled, it's still annoying to have initially.
Nothing bigger than 6" for screen size. My pocket isn't ready for bigger.
Decent camera. I'm not asking wonders here, just decent night shots.
Good battery life. I expect it at least live out 9 hours with intensive use(YouTube, games, etc) on 4G.
At least good mid-range CPU.
NFC.
Front-facing fingerprint sensor, can be under screen.
Capacitive back and menu buttons. Most if not all new phones lack this. I could live with gestures, but this is about the perfect smartphone for me.
Not required, but nice to have: Able to survive most short drops(no more than 30cm) without any damage.
For me, the perfect phone is:
a display no larger than 4.7 inches, this is best in my hand
good camera around 12.0 Mpix
built-in memory min. 32 GB
iOS 7 or newer operating system
For me the best phone I've ever had is Iphone 6s, light and comfortable and most importantly indestructible
For me the perfect phone is,
5.5 inch display of samsung
speakers of razer phone 2
Camera of pixel 3
Battery capacity of POCO
flagship processor
Build of an iphone
price of xiaomi
6" Screen
1440p screen
5g connectivity
dual band GPS
wireless charging
triple camera array
No phone is perfect every brand lags somewhere.
I have lots of mobile/tablet due to my work on mobile development.
Still iPhone gave the best UE imo. Now I'm trying the Huawei Honor 10, the design it pretty great.
Much better than Pixel. I'm not sure the very high end mobile for now, iPhone still being my main mobile since all my information was saved on iCloud.
Moviphone with hd
Build of an iPhone
Display of samsung
Battery like Nokia(3310)
Performance like Oneplus
Pricing like Redmi.
Camera like Pixel.
5" or 5.3" borderless display (no notch)
amoled screen with decent ppi
good camera with zoom, must shoot perfect photos also at night
good battery
good gps, must sync in max 2-3 s
android stock pre-rooted and without crapware
some additional physical buttons (to use with pbmc). Volume buttons like in LG G2 would be nice.
no lags, all apps must start instantly
iPhone XS max.
oh, here we go....
7" 16:9 3D (glasses not needed, similar to what vizio made years ago and 3DS) 4k (8k if possible) dolby vision screen with bezels so a thick and heavy duty case can go on it...
high megapixel cameras (with led flashes) with good lenses that have sliding covers to cover the lenses when not in use...
Dual large and clean sounding speakers with dolby atmos
ufs 3.0 1TB storage
16GB Ram
855 plus processor
clean install of android with root support
10000mah battery
usb c 4.0
3.5mm jack
hdmi out
capable of passing 3D out the hdmi to a tv or projector
LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 12, 66, and 71
5G support
AX aka wifi 6 built in
I would be satisfied with all that

What's your opinion: Mi 8 vs Mi 9 Lite?

Hey guys!
I hope I'm in the right place to post/ask this. But I honestly don't know any better place to go to.
At the moment I am to decide between the Mi 8 (6/64GB) for 170 € and the Mi 9 Lite (6/128 GB) for 200 €.
I already ordered, received and set up the Mi8 and the good price for the Mi 9 Lite just appeared recently.
The Mi 8 definitely has a better performance due to the SD845 (vs SD710) and has WiFi MiMO, an OIS, as well as apt-X and costs 30 € less (at least for me). Likely due to its release date there also are way more ROMs and Mods available for the Mi8 already.
Mi 9 Lite on the other hand supports LTE Band28 (which will become more and more important in Germany), has better camera sensors, a bigger battery, an infrared blaster, SD card support, a drop notch, an audio jack and, well, in-screen fingerprint (which I guess is nice but not that important) and it was released about 1 year later which could lead to longer software support.
So there's very much points arguing for the Mi 9 Lite. But:
Does the premium SoC of the Mi 8 guarantee more updates over time then the Mi 9 lite?
Is the camera of the Mi 9 Lite really better than on the Mi 8 as OIS is missing?
Is the in-screen fingerprint more imprecise than fingerprint on the back?
Could apt-X also be applied to the Mi 9 Lite? (one day I read about it being implemented in LOS by default)
Thanks in advance for your help and opinions on this question.
Kind Regards,
Seyron
Not sure about Mi 8 but Mi 9 Lite has stunning display, it's the biggest selling point IMO. (Samsung's AMOLED)
And yes maybe Mi 8 has faster chip but SD710 is WAY more power efficient, with bigger battery it will make tremendous difference. And it's not that slow either.. (about 220k in Antutu)
Cant really speak for camera because i dont use it that much but the resulsts i have been getting are more than satisfactory (even at low lighting with night mode)
k3lcior said:
Not sure about Mi 8 but Mi 9 Lite has stunning display, it's the biggest selling point IMO. (Samsung's AMOLED)
And yes maybe Mi 8 has faster chip but SD710 is WAY more power efficient, with bigger battery it will make tremendous difference. And it's not that slow either.. (about 220k in Antutu)
Cant really speak for camera because i dont use it that much but the resulsts i have been getting are more than satisfactory (even at low lighting with night mode)
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Thank you very much for your fast answer!
Referring to this post the Mi8 also comes with an Samsung AMOLED, though I can't find much other reliable information elsewhere that would support this statement. Phonearena seems to be the only specs listing website that states it, too, as being produced by Samsung. However it's my first AMOLED device and I therefore can't compare to others. I've declared to myself that my next phone definitely would be one for under 200 € and would have to come with an AMOLED screen, which now, thanks to the special offer for the Mi 9 Lite, is met by both devices.
Yeah the battery point is a powerful one. I get 1.5 days of battery lifetime at most with low usage while I got almost 3 days out of my Redmi Note 4 when I didn't use it much.
Also B-S-G - afaik the most popular developer for GCam ports - is developing the GCam specifically for the Mi8 (among other devices) which almost guarantees a most recent and working GCam version for it. But I only can tell that the image quality is way better than it was on my Redmi Note 4, which on the other side just would be very devastating if it wasn't.
It'd also be worth mentioning that due to the different vendors I'd have 2 years warranty for the Mi 8 (Amazon) but none to a maximum of one year for the Mi 9 Lite (Banggood).
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9065&idPhone2=9862
mi 9 lite:
Under screen Fingerprint sensor is neither fast, neither accurate and not convenient IMO;
I get aprox. 2 days battery life under light usage;
Camera is better than Samsung A50/A70 series, but I don think it is perfect;
It seems it is not primary phone, which gets best support (still android 9 vs mi 8 got android 10 officially);
Display is not perfect, but much better than Mi A3
Ambient light sensor (mounted under screen) does not for as good as on samsung phones;
In 1 month I got 3 random phone crashes /reboot.
I would probably go with mi 8.
what I can tell you about Mi 9 lite is : the screen is top , fingerprint on screen ( no need to turn your phone when on desk ) battery is xxl , microSD port , Irda port ( tv remote ) I use Nova rather than miui launcher and this phone is nearly perfect for what I do.
hey. i've had both. i don't know about the band 28 situation so i can't comment on that.
Let me start by saying that I think CC9/Mi9 lite is a missed opportunity for xiaomi. It was positioned a bit awkwardly for marketing. It's evidently not sold very well and if xda is any indication, community support is also fairly low.
Yet to me it is the most "all-rounded" phone from xiaomi in 2019 (nope, not 9t/9tPro, which are very popular), checking off all the marks for me: samsung oled, great cameras front (better than mi9) and back, beautiful build and design of the Mi9, SD card, headphone jack, big battery, good battery life, midrange prices, etc. To me it was nearly perfect (except perhaps a year old SoC instead of SD730), or as perfect as I expected from Xiaomi anyway.
Except the fact it doesn't have strong community support. I've got it about 3 weeks after its China release. I am still waiting for official pixel experience or any AOSP rom to have stable releases. I am stuck with MIUI variant roms which are stable but I personally crave pure android. That and the fact there isn't a really reliable working GCam support, nor do I know of one in development (please correct me if I'm wrong).
This makes a huge difference because I shoot a lot with the phone cameras. Right now with GCam, I get more technically impressive photos from a lower priced Redmi Note 7 than the oversaturated painting I get from Miui's own cameras, and that's from a technically inferior Samsung GM1 sensor.
As it stands now, it depends on your usage and preferences. I personally wouldn't mind the Mi8 myself, especially if it's cheaper, except they are no longer available in these parts of asia (sold out). I think Mi8's faults are that the 845 isn't as efficient, and the battery is smaller, resulting in less run time. Yet it IS a flagship, which means potentially better build, better parts (it has a LRA vibration motor vs cc9's cheaper rotary motor), world bands gsm (where cc9 has a more regional bands selection), and more community support. The camera is an IMX363, same as on pixel 3 and 3a, so it's no slouch: while it has lower resolution on paper, it really just skipped the need of marketing driven pixel binning by having larger pixels to begin with. (Personally I think the apparent race toward higher megapixels as a strategy for xiaomi is completely misguided if not deliberately misleading). Post processing would be what makes or breaks the results, and with mi8 you can get full GCam support. In fact with pixel experience rom and gcam, you'd probably get nearly identical pixel 3 experience for a bargain. While 4000mah battery would be nice, pixel3/3a does just fine with similarly small sized batteries and oled. So it may just come down to better optimization.
oh, the underscreen fingerprint sensor is just crappy and unreliable. There's a reason why it's not as widely adopted. It's not a miss if you have the capacitive ones instead.
I personally would love a well supported phone, so my pick today might become mi8. As much as I love the cc9/mi9lite, it coming onto the stage too late in the cycle after all bases are covered makes it a bit of an orphan when it comes to development. I don't personally use the headphone jack but I would miss the SD card slot. Screens are similar, brilliant Samsung OLED. In fact I think Mi8 was touted as one of the best displays from Xiaomi in terms of color accuracy. If you don't care as much about community support/aosp roms, and is content with MIUI and its camera app, then CC9 is really as good as they come this year. From the way the new xiaomi phone looks (redmi k30, cc9 pro, rumor of mi10), such thoughtful and balanced design is probably going to be a rarity in the up coming models.
Hope this helps
I agree with the reply above. Had I known that the CC9 has no Camera2 API Level 3 (only "full", which doesn't support all features making GCam development very limited), I'd probably have gone for the Mi 8. They were both at the same price when i bought the CC9, and though I enjoy having a bigger display and battery, most of the time I wonder if I'd be better off with smaller ones but Level 3 API (full support for GCam, which is important to me since I've come from a RN7 that took better pictures than the CC9), a way stronger processor and better build quality. The points that made me choose the CC9 instead were simply the teardrop notch as opposed to the huge forehead on the Mi8 and the bigger battery, as I use the phone to work on the street. Also it's a newer phone. But every now and then I question myself if I made the right decision. You'll have to weigh these points and see what is most important to you and your way of using the phone. But either one you take, you'll be making a tradeoff. Think it through patiently so you don't regret it later.
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https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9065&idPhone2=9862
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As I pointed out I already compared both phones myself using gsmarena and just summarized the main differences upon which I wasn't able to make a decision.
kesc said:
mi 9 lite:
Under screen Fingerprint sensor is neither fast, neither accurate and not convenient IMO;
I get aprox. 2 days battery life under light usage;
Camera is better than Samsung A50/A70 series, but I don think it is perfect;
It seems it is not primary phone, which gets best support (still android 9 vs mi 8 got android 10 officially);
Display is not perfect, but much better than Mi A3
Ambient light sensor (mounted under screen) does not for as good as on samsung phones;
In 1 month I got 3 random phone crashes /reboot.
I would probably go with mi 8.
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Thanks for your input! I have to say that just recently a colleague ordered and received his Mi 9 Lite and the In-Screen-Fingerprint seems to be quite fast and accurate at first glance.
Camera on the Mi 8 using GCam is amazing. Especially when compared to my old Redmi Note 4.
And as this is my first Amoled it also looks amazing, but I have no comparison.
I also face sudden SystemUI reboots on HavocOS on my Mi8 about once every two to three days.
seities said:
hey. i've had both. i don't know about the band 28 situation so i can't comment on that.
Let me start by saying that I think CC9/Mi9 lite is a missed opportunity for xiaomi. It was positioned a bit awkwardly for marketing. It's evidently not sold very well and if xda is any indication, community support is also fairly low.
Yet to me it is the most "all-rounded" phone from xiaomi in 2019 (nope, not 9t/9tPro, which are very popular), checking off all the marks for me: samsung oled, great cameras front (better than mi9) and back, beautiful build and design of the Mi9, SD card, headphone jack, big battery, good battery life, midrange prices, etc. To me it was nearly perfect (except perhaps a year old SoC instead of SD730), or as perfect as I expected from Xiaomi anyway.
Except the fact it doesn't have strong community support. I've got it about 3 weeks after its China release. I am still waiting for official pixel experience or any AOSP rom to have stable releases. I am stuck with MIUI variant roms which are stable but I personally crave pure android. That and the fact there isn't a really reliable working GCam support, nor do I know of one in development (please correct me if I'm wrong).
This makes a huge difference because I shoot a lot with the phone cameras. Right now with GCam, I get more technically impressive photos from a lower priced Redmi Note 7 than the oversaturated painting I get from Miui's own cameras, and that's from a technically inferior Samsung GM1 sensor.
As it stands now, it depends on your usage and preferences. I personally wouldn't mind the Mi8 myself, especially if it's cheaper, except they are no longer available in these parts of asia (sold out). I think Mi8's faults are that the 845 isn't as efficient, and the battery is smaller, resulting in less run time. Yet it IS a flagship, which means potentially better build, better parts (it has a LRA vibration motor vs cc9's cheaper rotary motor), world bands gsm (where cc9 has a more regional bands selection), and more community support. The camera is an IMX363, same as on pixel 3 and 3a, so it's no slouch: while it has lower resolution on paper, it really just skipped the need of marketing driven pixel binning by having larger pixels to begin with. (Personally I think the apparent race toward higher megapixels as a strategy for xiaomi is completely misguided if not deliberately misleading). Post processing would be what makes or breaks the results, and with mi8 you can get full GCam support. In fact with pixel experience rom and gcam, you'd probably get nearly identical pixel 3 experience for a bargain. While 4000mah battery would be nice, pixel3/3a does just fine with similarly small sized batteries and oled. So it may just come down to better optimization.
oh, the underscreen fingerprint sensor is just crappy and unreliable. There's a reason why it's not as widely adopted. It's not a miss if you have the capacitive ones instead.
I personally would love a well supported phone, so my pick today might become mi8. As much as I love the cc9/mi9lite, it coming onto the stage too late in the cycle after all bases are covered makes it a bit of an orphan when it comes to development. I don't personally use the headphone jack but I would miss the SD card slot. Screens are similar, brilliant Samsung OLED. In fact I think Mi8 was touted as one of the best displays from Xiaomi in terms of color accuracy. If you don't care as much about community support/aosp roms, and is content with MIUI and its camera app, then CC9 is really as good as they come this year. From the way the new xiaomi phone looks (redmi k30, cc9 pro, rumor of mi10), such thoughtful and balanced design is probably going to be a rarity in the up coming models.
Hope this helps
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Wow! Thank you so much for your efforts taking time to write such an detailed and honest opinion.
Talking about the Pixel Experience ROM I took a look into that and counting from release date of the Mi 8 it took about 6 months for a stable and official build to be released (May 2018 -> 25th Nov 2018).
Depending on the Mi 9 lite being released in Sep 2019 one could give it 2-3 months from now on compared to the time it took the Mi 8 to get some Official ROM support. As far as I can see the first unofficial custom ROMS for the Mi8 dropped in Oct 2018 which is 5 months after release whereas the first unofficial LOS build appeared just recently for the Mi 9 Lite. Therefore it only took the Mi 9 Lite 4 months to receive its first unofficial LOS build. So it looks like the support and development isn't that bad.
But yet it's still hard to tell how much (xda community) popularity the phone could get in the near future.
For me the battery life is one of the most convincing reason to buy. It was so satisfying to reach up to 3 days with my Redmi Note 4 without having to charge it once. I know this depends on usage but I always got at least 2 days if I wasn't at home gaming on the phone all the day.
Oh and yeah - you name it - the feeling of the vibration motor is so smooth and from the first moment on gives a so much more premium feeling than I experienced with the one in my Redmi Note 4. And yes the fingerprint scanner on the mi 8 is very fast and accurate.
Vinicius Bode said:
I agree with the reply above. Had I known that the CC9 has no Camera2 API Level 3 (only "full", which doesn't support all features making GCam development very limited), I'd probably have gone for the Mi 8. They were both at the same price when i bought the CC9, and though I enjoy having a bigger display and battery, most of the time I wonder if I'd be better off with smaller ones but Level 3 API (full support for GCam, which is important to me since I've come from a RN7 that took better pictures than the CC9), a way stronger processor and better build quality. The points that made me choose the CC9 instead were simply the teardrop notch as opposed to the huge forehead on the Mi8 and the bigger battery, as I use the phone to work on the street. Also it's a newer phone. But every now and then I question myself if I made the right decision. You'll have to weigh these points and see what is most important to you and your way of using the phone. But either one you take, you'll be making a tradeoff. Think it through patiently so you don't regret it later.
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Interesting point. But isn't this just depending on the ROM/software or is this a hardware issue?
I already somehow adapted to the forehead notch. I found it quite ugly the first to days. And it still is. The teardrop notch definitely is way more attractive. I guess it's missing the IR front camera, though (not that it would be that important/useful). And are the speaker, proximity sensor as well as light sensor positioned under the Amoled somewhere?

Question pixel 7 or pixel 7 pro

Hello, I want to buy a new phone, I had a Samsung s21 ultra but got a hardware problem now I'm trying to buy a new phone and experience a different brand.
I did some simple research and I saw the difference is only 120HZ and screen size, is there any else noticeable that I should buy a pixel 7 pro?
lunatix01 said:
Hello, I want to buy a new phone, I had a Samsung s21 ultra but got a hardware problem now I'm trying to buy a new phone and experience a different brand.
I did some simple research and I saw the difference is only 120HZ and screen size, is there any else noticeable that I should buy a pixel 7 pro?
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Are photo/video quality or camera ability important to you?
Pixel 7 Pro has telescoping lens and better ultra-wide lense...
Not really, i like to take photos sometimes but camera is not mandatory for me
lunatix01 said:
Not really, i like to take photos sometimes but camera is not mandatory for me
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I'm not exactly sure in terms of internals (system board, SoC, etc.), but other than screen size, Hz, camera hardware, one step higher storage capacity, a bigger battery (but still has a comparatively-to-other-flagships significantly lower SOT), and more RAM -- those are probably the major differences, so if those aren't a priority and/or aren't worth the price difference....
What did it for me was the size. Pixel 7 in 6.3 inches diagonal, already a bit too large for my taste. Pixel 7 is 6.7 inches diagonal. How big of a phone do you want to carry around all day? Also, the pro has a curved screen, the 7 has flat edges.
I also compared the two phones - I did not find any other differences. Is there a big difference in price?
lunatix01 said:
Hello, I want to buy a new phone, I had a Samsung s21 ultra but got a hardware problem now I'm trying to buy a new phone and experience a different brand.
I did some simple research and I saw the difference is only 120HZ and screen size, is there any else noticeable that I should buy a pixel 7 pro?
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Olesya13 said:
I also compared the two phones - I did not find any other differences. Is there a big difference in price?
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I actually bought the pro, idk about your country but I bought it for 680$ 128GB the base one was for 545$ for 135 bucks I think it was better to buy the pro.
poit said:
What did it for me was the size. Pixel 7 in 6.3 inches diagonal, already a bit too large for my taste. Pixel 7 is 6.7 inches diagonal. How big of a phone do you want to carry around all day? Also, the pro has a curved screen, the 7 has flat edges.
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I understand thankss.
simplepinoi177 said:
I'm not exactly sure in terms of internals (system board, SoC, etc.), but other than screen size, Hz, camera hardware, one step higher storage capacity, a bigger battery (but still has a comparatively-to-other-flagships significantly lower SOT), and more RAM -- those are probably the major differences, so if those aren't a priority and/or aren't worth the price difference....
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I see there was not a big difference in price that's why I chose the pro one.

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