Question Need Recommendation for a Backup/Restore App (No Root) - Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra

Hi All,
Any recommendation for a Backup/Restore App that can transfer the whole apps data (including logins etc)?

looking for same as its take hours to restore , there must be an app like iclod restore which works best to backup and restore

liamR said:
Hi All,
Any recommendation for a Backup/Restore App that can transfer the whole apps data (including logins etc)?
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if you are rooted, titanium backup is outstanding

alessandro_xda said:
if you are rooted, titanium backup is outstanding
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Agreed, I've always used this to take snapshots and it's fantastic.
I too am on the hunt for something that can do this without root. I don't think it exists.

Titanium backup hasn't been updated since 2019. Use Swift Backup, it's the best out there

The subject is : Backup APPDATA without root.
- Titanium backup doesn't work
- Swift Backup doesn't work
- Helium Backup & Sync (which was the ONLY app that could do that easily) doesn't work on Android 10+
As far as I know, there isn't any "app" that can do that anymore.
The ONLY reliable way is through ADB, either via a full backup, or app by app using "adb backup -apk -shared -all -f <filepath>/backup.ab"

RedWave31 said:
The subject is : Backup APPDATA without root.
- Titanium backup doesn't work
- Swift Backup doesn't work
- Helium Backup & Sync (which was the ONLY app that could do that easily) doesn't work on Android 10+
As far as I know, there isn't any "app" that can do that anymore.
The ONLY reliable way is through ADB, either via a full backup, or app by app using "adb backup -apk -shared -all -f <filepath>/backup.ab"
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Thank you very much

RedWave31 said:
The subject is : Backup APPDATA without root.
- Titanium backup doesn't work
- Swift Backup doesn't work
- Helium Backup & Sync (which was the ONLY app that could do that easily) doesn't work on Android 10+
As far as I know, there isn't any "app" that can do that anymore.
The ONLY reliable way is through ADB, either via a full backup, or app by app using "adb backup -apk -shared -all -f <filepath>/backup.ab"
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And how do you restore?

Why missing Smart Switch by Samsung only?

dr.ketan said:
Why missing Smart Switch by Samsung only?
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IMO, it's the worst solution, although it'll always be better than no backup at all.
It's not cross-device, so if you lose your phone, you can't switch brands, you have to buy another Samsung
The backup files are encrypted, you can't have an emergency restore on any other device
It's still a good choice, but people don't usually know those limitations when making a backup in the first place.
I'd rather have a very good app (with an adb privilege command or something like that) which can be used by anyone, than a proprietary solution (or root. root will never disapoint IMO)

RedWave31 said:
IMO, it's the worst solution, although it'll always be better than no backup at all.
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Then how about Google backup? I have never used (Indeed never using non rooted device) but should backup app +data and across all Android

dr.ketan said:
Then how about Google backup? I have never used (Indeed never using non rooted device) but should backup app +data and across all Android
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I would sure like to know if it does indeed backup and restore data also. I've also only used rooted devices and I've never seen anyone report anything about Google backup.
As for Samsung smart switch, it doesn't do data, only app, I remember.

tiho5 said:
I would sure like to know if it does indeed backup and restore data also. I've also only used rooted devices and I've never seen anyone report anything about Google backup.
As for Samsung smart switch, it doesn't do data, only app, I remember.
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Smart switch backup app+data I think
Here what Google backup says
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"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

dr.ketan said:
Smart switch backup app+data I think
Here what Google backup says
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Recently someone somewhere reported that smart switch didn't restore data. But that might have changed. I wish it did.
As for Google. Yes, I know that say this. But I've never tried and I highly doubt that they do a good job in that regard. But who knows...
Please, someone who has tried them, report here.
Please

As someone who had to used Google Backup to switch to my S21U, I can assure you that APPDATA can't make 24Mb for more than 200 apps. I believe it might save the tiniest amount of appdata, but haven't seen it restore anything (apps were clean on restore)
Samsung Smart switch DOES backup appdata, you can check for it in the backup folder you selected. I didn't fully check for appdata of system apps vs user apps, tho.

RedWave31 said:
As someone who had to used Google Backup to switch to my S21U, I can assure you that APPDATA can't make 24Mb for more than 200 apps. I believe it might save the tiniest amount of appdata, but haven't seen it restore anything (apps were clean on restore)
Samsung Smart switch DOES backup appdata, you can check for it in the backup folder you selected. I didn't fully check for appdata of system apps vs user apps, tho.
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So Google backup cannot restore data. Only apps.
You mentioned that smart switch will backup data. But did you try to restore it? And does it work?

tiho5 said:
So Google backup cannot restore data. Only apps.
You mentioned that smart switch will backup data. But did you try to restore it? And does it work?
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I have tried two apps y'day(N20 to S21 with USB backup option) , both restored but one with data other's only app. Yet can't say what exact rule applies. still it seems best way to restore on non rooted device. Probably It can backup from non samsung devices too (including iOS)but it can restore only on samsung if I am not wrong.

dr.ketan said:
I have tried two apps y'day(N20 to S21 with USB backup option) , both restored but one with data other's only app. Yet can't say what exact rule applies.
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Thank you.
Some of my apps have pages and pages of settings. I'll never use a phone without root for that reason. Backup&restore apps that use root are the only way and are essential...

tiho5 said:
Thank you.
Some of my apps have pages and pages of settings. I'll never use a phone without root for that reason. Backup&restore apps that use root are the only way and are essential...
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Yep. Testing different OS' with different configurations then snapshotting with Titanium has been my goto for years. Love that workflow.

burnxtc said:
Yep. Testing different OS' with different configurations then snapshotting with Titanium has been my goto for years. Love that workflow.
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Titanium is outdated now (I have used for almost a decade), specifically on A12 and it's been nearly 2 yrs, there is no support for splitted apks
Swift BAckup is on top now.

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[HOWTO] Backup my SGS, Backup Apps, Best practices before & after flash

Good evening guys,
I tried to backup my diary entries using Titanium Backup, but when I tried to restore them on the new Firmware they didn't appear. Same for my SMS Messages...
Could you tell what exactly I have to backup?
Thank you for your help!
Backup Methods Before Flashing?
I've been using MyBackupPro, but it does not save any of my settings. I have to set up a lot of stuff like email accounts and so on every time I flash.
Is there a better way?
Have you tried titanium backup? I find it works best.
azazin said:
Have you tried titanium backup? I find it works best.
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No I haven't yet. I read reviews of MyBackupPro, saying it's the best So I bought it.
Does Titanium Backup save preferences, including passwords and email settings?
MacGuy2006 said:
No I haven't yet. I read reviews of MyBackupPro, saying it's the best So I bought it.
Does Titanium Backup save preferences, including passwords and email settings?
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Hey,
I believe it does, it saves all of my preferences with games like Alsphalt so it should do the same with your e-mail.
Try it, it's free.
stupid question: Is somebody working on a custom recovery image with Nandroid or something?
unfnknblvbl said:
stupid question: Is somebody working on a custom recovery image with Nandroid or something?
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I hope someone is, that would be best option, titanium is brilliant though and has saved me a few times, I have it scheduled to backup everynight.
I also use Mybackup pro for sms and call logs etc.
neither can bring your homescreen widgets back as before.
Is there anything that saves your facebook/google links in contacts? That's the thing I find most annoying having to go back through them one by one...
Titanium backup in its current form is not functioning correctly on my phone aswell as many other galaxys users
yes - unfortunately Titanium Backup currently won't backup the databases :-(
Best backup app for galaxy?
Is there anything out there which will backup our apps, contacts etc before I flash a new rom to my phone? Is it possible in kies? I'm loath to have to link my face book and google mail contacts again
Backup apps/settings to PC? possible?
Hi all, i have seen many threads regarding backup apps such as wave/titanium pro etc but im wondering if its possible to backup to a PC?
as much as its a naughty word, i liked apples way of backing up using itunes. you simply plugged in your phone and voila its backing up into a friendly restorable format.
i just want a simple backup of my device encase i flash to others roms.
is this possible?
i don't know of such application.
but what is so bad about backing it up to the External SD card?
you want your backup to be with you all the time, so in case of "OMG! happens", you can easily Hard Reset, then restore from backup from the SD card.
once on the SD card, you can easily copy it over to your PC, the next time you hookup your USB cable.
if you want it done automatically, you can always create a script on your PC to grab X files from X folder every time the USB connects to X device
I love the backup software from PalmOS, they works automatically just as you wanted.
I never found a good one that actually works on WinMobile
in Android it's almost perfect, it just missing the part to sync the backups to the desktop automatically.
But that's a minor thing, as you can do the batch command mentioned above.
you can try this one for size, see if you like it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459830
Nandroid v2.0 - Full NAND backup and restore tool
else you can go for PAID applications such as... Titanium Backup and many other ones
never thought of it like that.
as for backup apps which one is proving decent? i see alot about wave and titanium backup.
Yeah... Titanium Back-up is great. You can even try MyBackup Pro. Both are equally good.
MyBackup Pro restores all the apps perfectly but is not able to link those to the Android Market...
what do you guys use to backup all your data before changing firmware
I already flashed my girlfriend's galaxy S twice
and each time i was installing and configuring the device as she want...
Once again there is a new firmware that correct some interesting part (GPS)
but i REALLY don't want to loose 2 hours of my time to
a: install the apps my gf has
b: configure the device (font, ring tone, volume ...)
so question : what are you using to save the time of installing/configurating...
thanks in advance
I'm also interested to know how you make it.. Thanks
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I use titanium backup. Gotta root your device first though.
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Been using Titanium Backup (donated ver.), so far so good.

(Q) Titanium Backup...

Has anyone got Ti backup working correctly on their Xoom because I have not. I have searched the forums even checked the developers web page and am no closer to figuring it out. I mostly want it right now to backup my Xoom to my dropbox account. I have successfully rooted and its showing BusyBox as being installed. I installed BusyBox through the app itself.
Anyway, here's my problem...
I have it set to back up all user apps and settings. When I go to the backup / restore page of the app, it only shows: accounts, app widgets, BT pairings, country, language, time zone and WiFi access points. Nothing else is showing. Now on my incredible everything shows. I've seen in the forums people say they've used it, but I for the life of me can't get it to work right.
Any ideas or help would be appreciated.
Define "got working". I installed the full version and backed up everything they offer in the backup/restore list. However, since I am using it the first time I don't know what the program actually did. On the summary page it says "no" next to dropbox but I assume it only means that my installation of dropbox does not have root access.
Let me know if that helped or if you want me to try out something specific.
working would be defined as - the ability to backup all the apps that you have installed. Currently I am only showing the 5 Orr 6 settings although I have about 60 total apps....maybe. TB also allows you to backup various other system settings. There should definitely be more on the lost than 5 or 6 items.
sent from my Xoom through chrome (which i must say is a frustrating experience. I apologize for the typos but editing is a bear)
My problem is the same, no apps are showing. I went to the TB wiki page and followed the instructions for the problem I am having. First confirm that I am rooted correctly (below screenshot). I also confirmed that BusyBox was installed.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
The next pic shows the TB info page which says BusyBox is installed, from the app itself.
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This shot is of my apps page, there are no apps listed. I too probably have 50 or so apps installed and they are not showing up.
Does anyone know what is causing this and how to fix it? I have uninstalled, rebooted and reinstalled and its just nothing working. Hopefully its just a messed up setting.
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I had this issue and it was driving me nuts.
I contacted the app developer and he had no real ideas, so I started playing around (even flashed the .sbf and started over).
I was able to get the device to work by using my Droid X and backing up 2 apps from it. Here's how it worked for me, YMMV:
1. On another device backup at least one app and sync it to DropBox.
2. On the Xoom launch Titanium and press the "Sync to DropBox" button. Wait for the install of the app(s) from DropBox.
3. Hit the "Refresh Apps" button in Titanium.
4. If all went well, all the apps on the Xoom should be displayed and can be backed up now.
Good luck.
Thanks for the idea, it didn't work. I've also tried uninstalling the pro version, deleting all reference to TB in my root, reinstalling free version and have had no luck. Funny thing is when I installed N64oid, it showed in my TB apps list, but nothing else other than what is pictured above. Any other ideas put there?
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Weird.
I'm currently back to the stock image awaiting the update wave. I'll check it again once I am updated and re-rooted.
Clear Titanium data. Install busybox from the market and run busybox installer. Re-open Titanium and make sure the busybox version 1.18.4. All your apps should be there.
bodiecon said:
Clear Titanium data. Install busybox from the market and run busybox installer. Re-open Titanium and make sure the busybox version 1.18.4. All your apps should be there.
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That worked perfectly. That has been pissing me off for 2 months now..thanks.
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bodiecon said:
Clear Titanium data. Install busybox from the market and run busybox installer. Re-open Titanium and make sure the busybox version 1.18.4. All your apps should be there.
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Awesome! Worked like a charm! Thank you soooo much
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workaround: Install busybox with the busybox installer by stericcson on the market. helped me to make TB correctly. i can backup and restore all apps
wow, thanks so much, TB only updated to 1.16. Not 1.18.
I now have a backup, this is great,
bodiecon said:
Clear Titanium data. Install busybox from the market and run busybox installer. Re-open Titanium and make sure the busybox version 1.18.4. All your apps should be there.
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Thanks! Worked right away with Busybox 1.19 installed
rcshou said:
Thanks! Worked right away with Busybox 1.19 installed
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I have had it working with both 1.18 and 1.19 flawlessly.
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Devs r about to update the internal busybox installer of TB then no workaround is necessary anymore
Thank You! I was on the right track, had the busy box installer downloaded. I tried every version with no luck, but never considered clearing the data. This works.
bodiecon said:
Clear Titanium data. Install busybox from the market and run busybox installer. Re-open Titanium and make sure the busybox version 1.18.4. All your apps should be there.
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HoneyComb 3.1 messed something up!
I have installed the 3.1 update and I am having issues with my titanium backup pro saying my key check failed with google. I never had this issue till the update.
I have a vzw 3g model.
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twinkyz1979 said:
I have installed the 3.1 update and I am having issues with my titanium backup pro saying my key check failed with google. I never had this issue till the update.
I have a vzw 3g model.
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The key will get updated, i guess its not ready yet. i have reported your issue to titanium backup dev team
same here key says failed check with google.
bodiecon said:
Clear Titanium data. Install busybox from the market and run busybox installer. Re-open Titanium and make sure the busybox version 1.18.4. All your apps should be there.
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Sweetness, worked like a charm. Thanks so much!!!!

Backup management (for flashaholics)

Backup management (for Flashaholics)
Hi all,
The amount of questions on this forum that could have been avoided by proper backups is alarming.
I have been helping friends, family and coworkers with their phones for a while and what I have noticed is that many people have little or no idea of backup management. Some have backups of their contacts and pictures on 4 different cloud services which all auto upload their info burning lots of data and battery.
Others have little or no backups and get in trouble when flashing a ROM or dropping their phone in the toilet (yes that does actually happen folks)
Especially when flashing ROMs on your rooted device, it’s important to manage your backups in a logical way. In the description below I’ll explain how I manage my backups for apps, contacts, pictures, and full Nandroid backups in a logical way.
I am assuming the people reading this already have root and TRWP recovery on their phone. If that is not the case but you would like to have those, please follow the link to a great tutorial from zedomax on how to get those.
Contacts:
When storing contacts on your phone, you can choose were you want this contact to be stored. Make sure you always use the same account to store contacts so you won’t have them devided over 3 or 4 accounts. Personally I just choose my gmail account as this is the first thing you will install on any new phone.
Under settings /cloud you can see were your contacts and data is backed up manually or automatically. Make sure you check these settings so your device will backup regularly when on wifi.
If you do have your contacts shattered over several accounts now, then the contacts optimizer app can help you fix this. It can remove double contacts or merge them together. The app also makes it possible move contacts from one account to another, or to move all contacts between accounts (the pro version). Be aware of the fact that some pictures you have stored with your contacts can get lost during the transition.
Her the playstore link for the app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.compelson.optimizer
Pictures and video’s:
Same story here. Choose one cloud service to auto upload all you’re your media files. I have seen phones that had installed 4 cloud services, all of which would auto upload the pictures. Just choose one and stick to it.
Personally, I will auto upload my pictures and videos to dropbox but any service will do.
TWRP recovery
Please make sure you have the latest version of TWRP installed on your phone. For some ROMs it won’t make a difference but for others it does. For example CM12 official will not install on an old version of TWRP.
You can find the newest version for your device here:
http://www.techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/
Before flashing a new ROM ALWAYS make a full backup with TWRP. This way you are safe when something goes wrong. The backup will contain all your apps, but also your ROM and your recovery.
Make sure you give your ROM a name you can actually understand 3 months from now.
For example, when having flashed CM12 official without any apps or settings installed, you could call it:
CM12 official Fresh install
Or when having installed all your apps and put your settings in place:
CM12 official Full install
After flashing a ROM, I will run it, let the playstore do the updates and make a fresh backup. This way I can get back to the original installation quickly.
Be aware that when restoring a TRWP recovery, you will not only restore your apps but also your ROM. To have your apps separately you will need another tool.
Titanium Backup
Although there are many backup apps, and I have tried most of them titanium backup seems to be one that I keep returning to. It simply has the most options and I use it a lot.
Playstore link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup
Full You Tube tutorial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZEa10WtFng
As storage space is no longer an issue, I make seperate backups for each ROM I use. This simply saves a lot of time updating apps from the playstore and decreases the amount of apps I have to reinstall when switching from say a Kitkat 4.4 to a Lollipop ROM.
By managing the backups in separate folders I can let titanium backup scan for the location of the backup folder, and pick the right one.
You do this by going to:
Menu,
Preferences,
Backup folder location
Detect (button)
Whole device
Titanium will find the folders and let you choose:
I usually call the Folders: TTBU and the first 2 letters of the ROM
In this picture you the folders for CM 12 and AllianceROM
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Storagespace:
With your note 4 it is possible to use a 128GB microSD card. All the files you can store on your SD will be unaffected when flashing a new ROM so use it for everything you want to keep available.
Another option is to copy all the needed files to your PC, whatever suits you best.
So do not worry about the storage on you phone!
Using this method I now have:
Contacts in 1 place
Pictures and media files in 1 place
Nandroid backups before and after with logical names
Titanium Backup (separate folder per ROM)
Whatever happens to my phone I can get it back to were I want it to be in under 10 minutes.
This saves you from a lot of asking for help on XDA developers.
I am curious to see how others manage their backups.

Can't restore encrypted Titanium Backup backup from Google Drive on new phone

Hi guys,
first of all, I'm german and dont know if i translate all Titanium Backup texts right. So sorry if you dont understand everything, but I try my best
Now, i got a little problem here. I've used Titanium Backup on my S3 to create an encrypted backup of my apps and sync it to Google Drive. Several days ago my S3 did break and I bought a new one, a Nexus 6. Now I wanted to restore my Apps from the backup. What I did first is to sync the backup files from my Google Drive via Titanium Backup. That went fine and made no problems at all. Via a file browser I can see the backup files on my phone. The path to the backup folder is set right in Titanium Backup. I can also verify the backup files in TB succesfully with the passphrase. But when I try to batch restore the backups I cant. In TB in the list with all these batch actions I wanted to use "restore missing Apps with Data" then select all the Apps and let TB do its job. But I cant, after the "restore missing Apps..." there is a 0. It seems like it is not recognizing my backups files here...
What could the problem be?
Help would be greatly appreciated here!
upload your backup to drive, then restore your backup from drive to your n6. dont batch restore from your phone, restore from drive. your backup is there, not on your phone.
Dont know what you mean. The backup is on my n6. The backup was on Google Drive, but I synced it to my TB backup folder on my phone that is set as my backup folder in TB. Also i dont see a possibility to directly restore apps from Google Drive.
o10 said:
Dont know what you mean. The backup is on my n6. The backup was on Google Drive, but I synced it to my TB backup folder on my phone that is set as my backup folder in TB. Also i dont see a possibility to directly restore apps from Google Drive.
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I have not used titanium backup since marshmallow came out but if I am understanding correctly the 0 you are referring to is in the progress bar during the restore operation. I had an issue like that in lollipop and what fixed it was setting kernel to permissive using the SELinux mode changer app. Last I heard though that app no longer works as intended on marshmallow with the new systemless SuperSU rooting method. There are a few permissive kernels floating around you could use. I think elementalx still has the permissive option on install, Hellscore has a permissive version of its zip.
No, I mean this in the restore section:
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o10 said:
.... I've used Titanium Backup on my S3 to create an encrypted backup of my apps and sync it to Google Drive. Several days ago my S3 did break and I bought a new one, a Nexus 6. Now I wanted to restore my Apps from the backup....!
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You need to restore manually.
Apps will be restored on your N6 after a factory reset when you login with your Gmail account.
When the setup of your N6 is finished you can restore data files on the virtual sdcard.
NLBeev said:
You need to restore manually.
Apps will be restored on your N6 after a factory reset when you login with your Gmail account.
When the setup of your N6 is finished you can restore data files on the virtual sdcard.
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Do you mean the Google Backup? I dont have that. Only using Titanium Backup.
o10 said:
Do you mean the Google Backup? I dont have that. Only using Titanium Backup.
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Indeed, I hoped you had the Google backup set on your S3. Now you have to download the apps again one by one from the play store.
NLBeev said:
Indeed, I hoped you had the Google backup set on your S3. Now you have to download the apps again one by one from the play store.
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Maybe I should have used it. Titanium Backup seems not to be very trustworthy...
o10 said:
No, I mean this in the restore section:
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(Sorry, I can not post links here until I have 10 posts...)
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Ah so I would check the filters on the app list, make sure uninstalled apps is check marked
o10 said:
Maybe I should have used it. Titanium Backup seems not to be very trustworthy...
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honestly, i havent used TB to back up in a long time. i did make a backup that i later zipped up(restored it in twrp recovery) one time last year. but google does a pretty good job at restoring apps, system settings, and wallpaper. for me at least
Already checked that, there is no filter set in TB.
Also in this tab i can see the backups, but I can not restore it. Maybe its a problem that I made the backups with Android 5.1.1 and have now 6.0.1?
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Oh, I think i got the problem... I just backuped the apps data and have to reinstall the app from the playstore manually, and after that I can restore the data. Dont know why that is. There was a time where TB installed the app automatically...
o10 said:
Oh, I think i got the problem... I just backuped the apps data and have to reinstall the app from the playstore manually, and after that I can restore the data. Dont know why that is. There was a time where TB installed the app automatically...
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it still does, depending on what you select of course. i like the idea of backing up then making a twrp flashable zip. it all gets reinstalled in one shot, a few seconds.
simms22 said:
it still does, depending on what you select of course. i like the idea of backing up then making a twrp flashable zip. it all gets reinstalled in one shot, a few seconds.
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Ok, now I will have a look into twrp backups. But I think there will be no way to automate this, right? Maybe via Tasker or some kind of script?
o10 said:
Ok, now I will have a look into twrp backups. But I think there will be no way to automate this, right? Maybe via Tasker or some kind of script?
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no idea, but I don't think so considering its done in recovery and not in the os. there's a twrp app you might check out, it might help in automation.
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i like the idea of backing up then making a twrp flashable zip. it all gets reinstalled in one shot, a few seconds.
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Do you do this through Titanium Backup using 'Create "update.zip" from app and data backups' under batch actions or a different way?
alryder said:
Do you do this through Titanium Backup using 'Create "update.zip" from app and data backups' under batch actions or a different way?
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under batch options. first, i make a regular titanium backup, then i go back into batch options and press create update.zip. this zips up your backup into a twrp flashable.
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simms22 said:
under batch options. first, i make a regular titanium backup, then i go back into batch options and press create update.zip. this zips up your backup into a twrp flashable.
Thanks, I figured that was how you did it but I wanted to make sure.
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Thanks, I figured that was how you did it but I wanted to make sure.
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just remember to make a backup first. first time I did it, I forgot :angel:

Does Smsung backup in Pie backups app data or just the aps (apk files)?

I want to do a factory reset. And the app doesn't save data on cloud.
Will built in backup/restore work in my case?
I found my app in Google Drive backup folder. So at least the app I am interested is safe.
But still need an answer regarding how Samsung backup works.
Thanks!
Not sure about Smart Switch but the normal backup that you restore when you setup your phone initially, does not backup app data or the APK. It just reinstalls from the Playstore.
bat0nas said:
I found my app in Google Drive backup folder. So at least the app I am interested is safe.
But still need an answer regarding how Samsung backup works.
Thanks!
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Samsung cloud backup will backup your apps, data and settings.
Here you go https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00060517/
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Samsung cloud backup will backup your apps, data and settings.
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Wesleyjah said:
Here you go https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00060517/
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Yeah, this is exactly what I was talking about, I've backup and restored my phone from Samsung Cloud atleast 20 times already and it has never restored app data. It will backup a list of the apps you have installed and install that list when you initially setup the phone but that's it.
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Yeah, this is exactly what I was talking about, I've backup and restored my phone from Samsung Cloud atleast 20 times already and it has never restored app data. It will backup a list of the apps you have installed and install that list when you initially setup the phone but that's it.
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I always backup apps with Google and data, desktop settings, and other settings with Samsung cloud backup. I have never had problems with restoring after that.
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Have you followed this steps?
https://www.samsung.com/au/support/mobile-devices/how-to-restore-data-from-samsung-cloud/
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I always backup apps with Google and data, desktop settings, and other settings with Samsung cloud backup. I have never had problems with restoring after that.
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You aren't understanding this question, he wanted the app data backed up, so after he resets his phone, the app is exactly how it was before the reset. Google's backup doesn't do that either. The only way I'm aware to have that backed up is Titanium Backup, which requires root.
Like I wrote, when I backup with booth Google and Samsung cloud. My apps data and settings are exactly like before after Factory reset and restore.
Ok so.. To be clear.. Nothing.. Nothing backs up the apps data like titanium backup.. I used it long time ago, but i stopped rooting since few years.
Now the difference between samsung backup or cloud or switch (all almost does the same thing) and Google backup cant be determined..
Here is my experience..
Google backup does backup apps data and settings perfectly when using a pixel phone.. So pixel to pexil..
Samsung cloud or switch does backup SOME apps data (Samsung to Samsung). And does backup the majority of Samsung native apps and settings (always misses something when restoring)
However, i noticed that as long as you are backing up and restoring to the same phone (same device not only same brand) then either Samsung or Google do restore the most possible..
You have to keep in my mind that there are apps that i couldn't restore its data no matter what, and mostly these apps are the ones that have higher authentication (Instagram, WhatsApp, shipment tracking apps, banks apps and so on).. But i was always able to restore apps like Talon or Fenix (twitter apps)..
I believe that some apps do allow restoration as long as its coming back to the same exact device (simple formate and restore) but others dont no matter what..
Recently i did a factory reset after updating to pie (i didn't factory reset during the beta so my apps where already setup on pie) so moving from pie to pie in samsung and same device using SD card and Samsung switch. I would say most of samsung settings where restored, 40% of my apps data restored, i had 2 or 3 apps completely not restored and i downloaded them again from play store.. Most of samsung native apps settings were restored..
I would advice, doing both Samsung switch and Google backup (keep in mind that Google back is now activated and u can manually backup ur device anytime) thats what i did, and when i restored the last time, i restored from both, because when u do the setup, first google asks you if you want to restore then samsung asks you too.. So i did both.. And i would say it worked better than what i expected, minimal setup overall compared to a fresh device setup.. But expect an hour or 2 of double checking of you do check all apps after restoring like me..
This thread is relevant to me. I want to root my phone, but first I want to backup my apps and data. I know in future I can use Titanium Backup but how to backup now without root. Is everyone using Smart Switch and Google Backup. I looked at Helium but most apps say they can't be backed up.

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