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Hi,
I own a Galaxy S2, Note N7000, a Tab S and a newer SM-N910C Note 4. I counted these devices to point I'm very familiar with various AMOLED displays. In fact, I'm so charmed by this technology that I won't ever buy a phone or tablet with LCD again. The problem is, on Note 4 RED is not as RED as in previous devices. I put the same test image on all devices, and all S2, Note 1 and Tab S displays a very pure red, the Note4 displays a kind of red- pink. I really can't say the view quality is poor, white is really white on its screen, but the wavelength of the red color is clearly different. All in this device gives me a "premium feel", but I can't explain why red looks so different. Did they used cheaper materials? I can't imagine it's only to my phone, screen uniformity is good and all screeen has the same color.
I pictured all phones (Note 4 on the left, Note 1 and S2 on the right) with Standard screen mode, brightness maximum.
I noticed this possible issue few days ago when I found about the *#0*# test mode for samsung and I wanted to try. At the very first RED test I noticed that isn't quite red.
Please note that colors aren't distorted because of different screen brightness, the hue is quite the same for the eye, too!
LE: I'm sorry I didn't noticed the screen dedicated topic here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/general/display-issues-thread-t2910575/page2
My mistake...
Mine looks about as crappy. Dang it now you've triggered my ocd, sigh.
Mine's an SM-910F and the screen is red as red can be. Probably deeper red than the S2 in your pic.
Jonathan-H said:
Mine's an SM-910F and the screen is red as red can be. Probably deeper red than the S2 in your pic.
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Same here with a N910C.
Agreed my n910f is as red as it could be.
Here is my Note 4 next to my good old S2. Both are on maximum brightness and the picture is taken with an S4.
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The thing is the Note 4 screen is way way much brighter than the S2 and is known that the previous Galaxy flagships had very unrealistic and saturated colors. The Note 4 has by far the best screen ever and color reproduction is much closer to reality compared to the older generations of S/Note line.
Cheaper display? No chance! The display on Note 4 is top quality/technology and you cannot compare it to the S2.
EDIT: Check your Display settings, you might use different settings and that might be the cause of the pink'ish red.
Dean-xXx said:
Here is my Note 4 next to my good old S2. Both are on maximum brightness and the picture is taken with an S4.
The thing is the Note 4 screen is way way much brighter than the S2 and is known that the previous Galaxy flagships had very unrealistic and saturated colors. The Note 4 has by far the best screen ever and color reproduction is much closer to reality compared to the older generations of S/Note line.
Cheaper display? No chance! The display on Note 4 is top quality/technology and you cannot compare it to the S2.
EDIT: Check your Display settings, you might use different settings and that might be the cause of the pink'ish red.
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This phenomena happens the same with screen on basic or photo. The red hue is the same on my S2, note1 AND Tab S - which it is said it has the most calibrated screen colors. Only on Note 4 the hue is slight pinky. Not much, but uniform. Can I have a unit that was not properly checked?
Hi,
Can anyone please test with this image on 10% brightness to check if there is ghosting.
Best regards
davidk_ro said:
This phenomena happens the same with screen on basic or photo. The red hue is the same on my S2, note1 AND Tab S - which it is said it has the most calibrated screen colors. Only on Note 4 the hue is slight pinky. Not much, but uniform. Can I have a unit that was not properly checked?
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For me, you have a faulty unit. Please go to settings and change the screen mode under "screen" to have the same in every device, if it still looks bad, take the photos and send it to the Warranty, they have to give you a brand new device. My N910C looks much better than my Old N7000's screen. Used an image with R:255 G: 0 B: 0 (Pure red) and doesnt looks "pink" as yours. Good luck and let us know if you will have a replacement or not. Cheers!
shadowlabs9 said:
Hi,
Can anyone please test with this image on 10% brightness to check if there is ghosting.
Best regards
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Not on mine...no ghosting
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-Sweeper_ said:
Same here with a N910C.
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Mine N9910C perfect
Had to check mine, perfectly fine.
It's super red lol, looks like they gave you an LCD cause it's about as washed out as a nexus5
Nano23 said:
Not on mine...no ghosting
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Can you please repeat the process ... Making zoom the image, then drag from one side to the other repeatedly, with low brightness (~ 10%) to see if the ghosting around the cat appear when in motion.
Thanks in advance.
shadowlabs9 said:
Can you please repeat the process ... Making zoom the image, then drag from one side to the other repeatedly, with low brightness (~ 10%) to see if the ghosting around the cat appear when in motion.
Thanks in advance.
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Yes. There's ghosting and it's a known issue since the Galaxy S4. This affects every Note 4 so don't worry, it's not only your phone.
Edit: actually it's not called ghosting. Its like blue shades it had a proper name, I will investigate a bit more
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Yes. There's ghosting and it's a known issue since the Galaxy S4. This affects every Note 4 so don't worry, it's not only your phone.
Edit: actually it's not called ghosting. Its like blue shades it had a proper name, I will investigate a bit more
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Yes.. theres something there
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Ok,
I've read something about it... but i think i'm just becoming paranoid about amoled. Last year I sent my S4 to warranty because of that, but in another intensity (way more marked than with the N4)...
Thanks for your opinion.
Best regards
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like a few others, the colors are just fine, perfect red...
Don't worry, I had a Galaxy s4 too and I hated its screen. On my Sm-N910C I see some ghosting, but its 1/5 of the Galaxy s4 ghosting. Don't Worry about this bro.
My red screen is very good too. I made a comparison with my Galaxy s4 and I see no much difference.
Until the Galaxy s6 outs, the Nkte 4 has the best screen of the market.
Sorry for my bad english, I'm very sleepy.
I'll go into a store and compare my unit with a display unit there. I hope the unit in "Store mode" allows me to enter *#0*#, as I won't be able to install apps on it. After all, it is a simple test; then I'll get back here to tell you.
jgfernog said:
Don't worry, I had a Galaxy s4 too and I hated its screen. On my Sm-N910C I see some ghosting, but its 1/5 of the Galaxy s4 ghosting. Don't Worry about this bro.
My red screen is very good too. I made a comparison with my Galaxy s4 and I see no much difference.
Until the Galaxy s6 outs, the Nkte 4 has the best screen of the market.
Sorry for my bad english, I'm very sleepy.
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had the chance to see the Note 4 and the S6 side by side via skype right after the official presentation, looks pretty much the same (Talking about brightness and contrast). IDK about colors as the stream was a bit low quality, but between both I didn't saw too much difference. The screen seems to be the same as Note 4, and that's why Samsung didn't made publicity of the S6 screen and instead focused in other features.
Before starting to explain, I will do an analogy about the amoled screens: There were two "batchs"/generation of amoled screens, first one is the S/S2/S3/Note1/Note2 and the newer one started with the S4, and remained in the Note 3/4 and probably the S6.
Since the S4, samsung "remade" the Amoled screens from scratch, featuring better color reproduciton and whites (the older generation had a green tint all over the white colors).
The S4 screen was the poor amoled screen so far. Maybe because it was the first 1080p Screen by samsung, but it wasn't the best. The issue was called "Purple smearing" and happend even at full brightness. It was pretty noticeable when you move a grey object which had a black background behind, just like the separators between settings at the settings app. However, this issue was reduced in newer devices. The S4 Mini didn't had this issue since the screen quality was pretty much the same screen build as the Note 2, S2 or S3. In the Galaxy S5 and Note 4, the screen was much better built than the S4, however, the smearing effect still happens at low brightness. It's not a big deal, I can live with that. I just hope that I will not have screen burn-in problems like I had with the Note N7000.
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Before starting to explain, I will do an analogy about the amoled screens: There were two "batchs"/generation of amoled screens, first one is the S/S2/S3/Note1/Note2 and the newer one started with the S4, and remained in the Note 3/4 and probably the S6.
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My impression is S3 was the first using different driving methods and different materials. Different driving because you can see PWM dimming when low brightness and different materials because bluish reflections when display off.
I often see color uniformity issues on amoled panels especially on whites or in greys. For those who have a keen eye and know how to check, how is your screen uniformity? Post some pics on what image you tested it with.
I've had 2, I'm a printer( so see everything?) and have noticed the screen to have the top edge red and bottom green, sent one back but the new one had the same thing. Any one else notice it? Or maybe I should get some 3D GLASSES ?
Its a very common quality control issue on AMOLEDs even on the latest Note 7 it is still an issue, Aside from the Galaxy S1, I have yet to see a uniform AMOLED panel especially in whites and greys.
The OnePlus 5T has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I have used Samsung Galaxy Note 4 for 2 years ( AMOLED 2k) before coming to 5T and I really don't see any difference.
sukesh1090 said:
I have used Samsung Galaxy Note 4 for 2 years ( AMOLED 2k) before coming to 5T and I really don't see any difference.
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Good to know, I'm eyeing a 5t myself. I think I read that they use a different 'diamond' pixel spacing on the 5t, so it may actually appear more pixel dense than the old lentil arrangement on Samsung's previous amoled panels.
benjmiester said:
Good to know, I'm eyeing a 5t myself. I think I read that they use a different 'diamond' pixel spacing on the 5t, so it may actually appear more pixel dense than the old lentil arrangement on Samsung's previous amoled panels.
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If you meant "diamond pentile matrix", then Samsung has been using it from S3 days or even earlier than that. Today's Samsung sourced mobile amoled displays have diamond pentile matrix only that includes 5t as well. This pixel arrangement gives less number of green and red subpixels compared to LCD and other screens but it's non noticeable for a screen with ppi more than 400. It was a problem in S3 and note 2 days bcoz of low resolution but not anymore..
So get the 5t with eyes closed.
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If you meant "diamond pentile matrix", then Samsung has been using it from S3 days or even earlier than that. Today's Samsung sourced mobile amoled displays have diamond pentile matrix only that includes 5t as well. This pixel arrangement gives less number of green and red subpixels compared to LCD and other screens but it's non noticeable for a screen with ppi more than 400. It was a problem in S3 and note 2 days bcoz of low resolution but not anymore..
So get the 5t with eyes closed.
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Oh woops, looks like I just got the term wrong.
Can anyone talk on the brightness uniformity of this display
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Oh woops, looks like I just got the term wrong.
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No worries?
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v0 HaVoK 0v said:
Can anyone talk on the brightness uniformity of this display
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What I can tell you is that the display is perfect. No discoloration or hues on tilting the screen, brightness is uniform only thing is the display looks a bit...really a bit more reflective than the note 4 display but then it could be because of the screen guard thats pretty applied. Other than that nit picking the display is amazig.
v0 HaVoK 0v said:
Can anyone talk on the brightness uniformity of this display
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Uniformity will vary on every screen. It's a lottery with any oled display
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Can anyone talk on the brightness uniformity of this display
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Reuben_skelz92 said:
Uniformity will vary on every screen. It's a lottery with any oled display
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I went through 3 different pixel 2 XLs (for various defects) before setting on the OP5T; all 3 pixels had significant uniformity problems with the top being brighter than the bottom. Also very grainy. Can't find anything wrong with the display on the 5T.
Reuben_skelz92 said:
Uniformity will vary on every screen. It's a lottery with any oled display
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Yes, it's a lottery with LG's OLED panels, but with Samsungs panel, it's more consistent per panel.
harpin14789 said:
Yes, it's a lottery with LG's OLED panels, but with Samsungs panel, it's more consistent per panel.
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Not sure. Plenty of pink tints etc on Samsung panels. But the Samsung ones are a lot better anyway.
I had 2k screens (G3, S7e and Pixel XL) for 3 years and while I can squint and see that the 5T is a lower resolution, it looks the same when you use it normally.
I was a little concerned about this, but was relieved when I got the phone and the screen was very nice and crisp.
I would like to admit to being quite picky about resolution and used to change it on my G3 to get better battery life but couldn't stand it being slightly "blurry" because it was no longer 1:1, pixel for pixel. Most people don't notice this but it did! (Not that the text looks blurry on the 5T because it is 1:1 at 1080p.)
sukesh1090 said:
I have used Samsung Galaxy Note 4 for 2 years ( AMOLED 2k) before coming to 5T and I really don't see any difference.
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Hey, i just switched too from the Note 4 to too! Before buying i was sceptical too due to the 1080p screen, so i went to the stores and had a look at the mate 10 pro, wich also has a 1080p 6" screen and i couldn't see any difference, so i ordered the OP5T. I am very happy with the screen! Can't see any difference in normal use aswell. Plus it has a much whiter white than my Note 4.
Coming from the 2K screen on the Nexus 6P to the OnePlus 5 had me a little skittish, but it wasn't a significant enough change to warrant returning it. The 5T's OLED panel takes things to another level with its brightness/darkness levels and battery life impact. I thoroughly love it, and went as far as to drop my font size to the lowest possible to give me the faux-highres feel.
Currently my oneplus 3 screen uniformity is rubbish. It's especially noticeable on white band even more so on grey backgrounds with a very noticeable yellow tint towards the top left of the screen. It's pretty gross.
I know it's a bit of a "lottery" with OLED screens but can I expect a better overall experience coming from the OP3?
Id the oneplus 5t screen from samsung ? Shame google couldn't just take an oled display from samsung because otherwise, the pixel 2 xl would be the perfect smartphone.....
Colday96 said:
Id the oneplus 5t screen from samsung ? Shame google couldn't just take an oled display from samsung because otherwise, the pixel 2 xl would be the perfect smartphone.....
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Sadly it costs to much and has no headphone jack and has not much development.
now back to topic: the screen looks fine nearly the same as on my op3 but thats okay it was a very good screeen.
I've from a QHD Super Amoled display from my Note 5 to this phone. Unless you're gonna use a magnifying glass to pin point pixels, you're gonna find both both displays are excellent. I am extremely happy with the display with my 5t.
Screen looks awesome to me. With any oled screen it's a lottery how uniform it will be.
The screen looks fantastic to me... no noticeable difference from a 2k one.
The phone does not support VR so it would have been only a useless battery draining feature.
Hello, I hope you are well
My phone screen shows a shallow black color and is almost grayish in color
Of course, it is compared to the s8 plus phone
Mine's no different from any other LCD phone screen I've used recently
Not as "true black" as an OLED / AMOLED screen, but it's not really possible for it to be, given how the different technologies work (guessing you're comparing it to the AMOLED screen on a samsung galaxy s8 - that would definitely look different). Your eyes should have adjusted by now!
Looking to buy S8 as it is comparatively more compact & cheaper.
How is the overall quality of LCD on S8? Does it have any accuracy issue like warm tone?
Thanks
march9 said:
Looking to buy S8 as it is comparatively more compact & cheaper.
How is the overall quality of LCD on S8? Does it have any accuracy issue like warm tone?
Thanks
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S8 has got TFT panel instead of OLED like s8+ and S8 Ultra has got.
Screen quality is better than Tab s5e
(especially if your have allergy and tears on Amoled)
UPDATE: screen is amazing
Screen of S8 is good, it's a TFT screen but is consistent even in the edges of the screen. Only issue i got is that Samsung doesn't have adaptative warm tones on panels that aren't oled, also don't expect perfect blacks.
It's great. I have no complaints with it.
Great quality (Samsung galaxy tab s8 ultra ).
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Great quality (Samsung galaxy tab s8 ultra ).
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He is asking for s8 which hasn't oled. S8 ultra has oled. If you like oled, you don't buy s8 regardless how good is the screen, it isn't oled..
You are right Sosimple, i respond to quickly. Sorry for that.
I've a Tab S8 since some months. The screen quality is excellent. It is a LCD display , one of the best.
In the past I had also a Tab S7 plus with amoled but I like more the Tab S8 because of the size. The LCD allows also better energy consumption compared to the amoled.
I may suggest to buy also the keyboard with trackpad (the one made for tab S7 , not the recently released version without trackpad) . It is a nice accessory that transform the tablet into a semi Surface expecially in the Dex Mode.
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I've a Tab S8 since some months. The screen quality is excellent. It is a LCD display , one of the best.
In the past I had also a Tab S7 plus with amoled but I like more the Tab S8 because of the size. The LCD allows also better energy consumption compared to the amoled.
I may suggest to buy also the keyboard with trackpad (the one made for tab S7 , not the recently released version without trackpad) . It is a nice accessory that transform the tablet into a semi Surface expecially in the Dex Mode.
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LCD takes actually more power than amoled/oled. Since black on amoled/OLED has got leds turned off which takes less power on black areas. While LCD keeps leds on and mixes colours into more like grayish black.
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LCD takes actually more power than amoled/oled. Since black on amoled/OLED has got leds turned off which takes less power on black areas. While LCD keeps leds on and mixes colours into more like grayish black.
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What you say it's true but S8 battery life is much better than S8+ (according to what i saw on the internet), this might be cause S8 is the only one with adaptative refresh rate