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[Q] Sony my Xperia vs Apple Lost Mode

In apples when in lost mode, you will never unlock the device even after flashing a new firmware.
But what about in Sony? After locking it, will it unlock by flashing a ftf?

f_u_006 said:
In apples when in lost mode, you will never unlock the device even after flashing a new firmware.
But what about in Sony? After locking it, will it unlock by flashing a ftf?
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most likely it will be usable again but all data will be gone.

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most likely it will be usable again but all data will be gone.
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I am not in such status now, I just wanna know if i lock my Z1 using my Xperia and someone who stole or found it can they unlock it by flashing a new firmware?
in iOS it doesn't!

Nothing compares to iOS's lost mode, it ties deep into the device's hardware.
No Android device has a feature that's similar to iOS 7's activation lock. Even Samsung's Note 3 "equivalent" could surely be done away with by flashing CM.

There are always ways around it. Even using hardware encryption. I guarantee you apple has an algorithm that will generate a password when needed if you call in to tech support. This will be hacked.
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Android (MUST) add feature!
How the best Mobile OS could lack this feature?

f_u_006 said:
Android (MUST) add feature!
How the best Mobile OS could lack this feature?
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By not being manufactured by the same company as mentioned by another member, Apple's Lost Mode ties deep into hardware which requires certain hardware support, which is not the case for Android phones since the software and hardware are by different companies.

you can use it again

Avast mobile security has functions and features like this with things in place to prevent flashing recoveries and such like, but to be fair, once your phone is stolen the only need of security software is to ensure your data is wiped. Everything else is unimportant as people will always find a way to reactivate a phone eventually, and you are very unlikely to get it back.

pandaball said:
By not being manufactured by the same company as mentioned by another member, Apple's Lost Mode ties deep into hardware which requires certain hardware support, which is not the case for Android phones since the software and hardware are by different companies.
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All of the manufacturers use the same API and OS, Android must release such an API then the manufacturers can compile them into there Firmware...

f_u_006 said:
All of the manufacturers use the same API and OS, Android must release such an API then the manufacturers can compile them into there Firmware...
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Not really. API levels differ between Android versions, so different Android versions can have different sets of API available. Google could arguably incorporate such a feature into Google Play Services, but then the hardware portion is missing so even if manufacturers had such an option, the prerequisite hardware support must be present and unfortunately pretty much all Android devices to my knowledge don't have such a thing

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Not really. API levels differ between Android versions, so different Android versions can have different sets of API available. Google could arguably incorporate such a feature into Google Play Services, but then the hardware portion is missing so even if manufacturers had such an option, the prerequisite hardware support must be present and unfortunately pretty much all Android devices to my knowledge don't have such a thing
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I agree with you but like Apple, why should someone loss there data and phone because of a disaster?
I am sure Android may be working on it#!#?

f_u_006 said:
I agree with you but like Apple, why should someone loss there data and phone because of a disaster?
I am sure Android may be working on it#!#?
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If an Apple user lost his/her phone, the data and phone would be gone too software based solutions cannot resist an OS wipe, and there's little Google can do about it.

pandaball said:
If an Apple user lost his/her phone, the data and phone would be gone too software based solutions cannot resist an OS wipe, and there's little Google can do about it.
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But if we had a backup in our PC or Cloud so we could restore it easily. At least you don't have to pay for a new phone.

f_u_006 said:
But if we had a backup in our PC or Cloud so we could restore it easily. At least you don't have to pay for a new phone.
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Uhh? If an iPhone user lost his phone, why wouldn't he have to pay for a new phone? I don't think Apple gives people who lost their phones new ones As for backups, app backups can be done with the adb backup command on your computer. Nandroids would work on the same phone model as well, as would apps like Titanium Backup and Helium.

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Uhh? If an iPhone user lost his phone, why wouldn't he have to pay for a new phone? I don't think Apple gives people who lost their phones new ones As for backups, app backups can be done with the adb backup command on your computer. Nandroids would work on the same phone model as well, as would apps like Titanium Backup and Helium.
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I argue for lost phone not data!
Atleast i won't buy a new phone if lost mine in such way.
My aunt lost her IPhone and she found it after 2 days, she also synced her Pictures from the cloud and apps from the iTunes.
THAT'S IT!
Well... i feel jealous in this case cuz i hate Apple. Lol
Android must work on some security features, they can even make something better than Apple's.

f_u_006 said:
I argue for lost phone not data!
Atleast i won't buy a new phone if lost mine in such way.
My aunt lost her IPhone and she found it after 2 days, she also synced her Pictures from the cloud and apps from the iTunes.
THAT'S IT!
Well... i feel jealous in this case cuz i hate Apple. Lol
Android must work on some security features, they can even make something better than Apple's.
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I don't really get you... you're saying that if a person loses his phone, he also loses his data?
While this is true for apps, some games now sync game saves to the cloud so it is accessible on other devices and for backup purposes, while for photos, you can try Dropbox or Google+, both have automatic photo and video uploading as well

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I don't really get you... you're saying that if a person loses his phone, he also loses his data?
While this is true for apps, some games now sync game saves to the cloud so it is accessible on other devices and for backup purposes, while for photos, you can try Dropbox or Google+, both have automatic photo and video uploading as well
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If you lost your Android Phone then forgot about your Data in your phone, Unless you have a backup ( Nandroid, Cloud, Titanium.....)
There's very less chance to you if you find your phone again. So... Can you live phoneless? PROBABLY NO!
You need to buy a new phone in sucha condition.
In Apple finding your phone after losing it is easy, and your data will be never extracted.
I am an entry level dev and i can extract data from any Android phone but in Apple nobody did yet.
So i want Android (The best OS ever in mine and everyone is view) to create such feature in there upcoming version API, Source code or..... then other manufacturers can compile them into there Firmwares..
By anymean i found Apple's lost mode better than Android device manager or manufacturer's specific.

f_u_006 said:
If you lost your Android Phone then forgot about your Data in your phone, Unless you have a backup ( Nandroid, Cloud, Titanium.....)
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True, which is why people should backup more often. Helium has a scheduled backup option
f_u_006 said:
In Apple finding your phone after losing it is easy, and your data will be never extracted.
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Ehh? If your phone goes missing and it shows up in another country because someone stole it, I would think it isn't very easy to get it back
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I am an entry level dev and i can extract data from any Android phone
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You can't if the person encrypted his Android phone That's another way to protect your data if you so wish.
f_u_006 said:
So i want Android (The best OS ever in mine and everyone is view) to create such feature in there upcoming version API, Source code or..... then other manufacturers can compile them into there Firmwares..
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As mentioned above, the hardware support has to be present, else software based solutions can only do so much.

Chromacast jailbreak. Any one working on it?

Anyone has any ideas to jailbreaking chromecast?

bisbal said:
Anyone has any ideas to jailbreaking chromecast?
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Chromecast has been rooted. You have to have specific devices, as Google locked the device down and is unrootable after a certain point. Check to see if your serial number is listed in the "Rootable Serial Numbers" thread, and make sure you've never updated it over WiFi, as it will automatically install Google's updates and render your device locked permanently. All of this information is covered extensively in the threads around this one you started, use the information that is present.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2537022
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2529903
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578653

Also Google has open sourced Chromecast's API's so anyone can develop app support for it. The question is what you plan on doing once you root/jailbreak it. Whatever it is will still require development and app support.

borxnx: Thanks, but I already knew that, obviously I am talking about the *NEW* devices that have a protected bootloader! :-/
xlxcrossing: I knew all that too, I am not asking for API's or anything else, I am specifically asking for jailbreaking and being able to install my own ROM!

bisbal said:
borxnx: Thanks, but I already knew that, obviously I am talking about the *NEW* devices that have a protected bootloader! :-/
xlxcrossing: I knew all that too, I am not asking for API's or anything else, I am specifically asking for jailbreaking and being able to install my own ROM!
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At the very least @rekids is working on a hardware method...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2746636
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2698446
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2703327
I'm sure there are other threads, but that was just a quick few-minute search.
Likely you won't see anything open-public until it actually works, as it's a cat-and-mouse game with Google. Tip your hand early and Google could just roll out an update to stop you before the exploit is usable by a significant number of folks.

Maybe its because the exploit was patched very early but i fail to see any benefit from rooting.
And i say this as someone that used to flash 5 ROMs a week.
This device is very limited and i doubt root would allow much
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drivenby said:
Maybe its because the exploit was patched very early but i fail to see any benefit from rooting.
And i say this as someone that used to flash 5 ROMs a week.
This device is very limited and i doubt root would allow much
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Yet... Now Team Eureka has added native screen cast. That's definitely a bonus. Say that again in a year, after the chromecast2 comes out and Google changes everything, again.
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borxnx said:
Yet... Now Team Eureka has added native screen cast. That's definitely a bonus.
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It's more like early access for that, as it should get released to all (supported configurations) once Google declares it ready.
IMO, Team Eureka's web panel adds a whole lot, but I'm the type that likes control over things like DNS and being able to remotely reboot things.
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I am quite sad that only those in the US got chance to root on early devices.
Im in the UK and just bought mine but cant install custom roms.
Hope some genius finds a workaround.

Presuming no Xposed framework will ever be available for Android N or later...

Presuming no Xposed framework will ever be available for Android N or later, what hardware would you buy today? I will not run an Android version without Xposed (due to the need for XPrivacy). Therefore, I seek opinions on the best available, future-proofed hardware to run Xposed. For example, it seems I should still be able to buy a new OnePlus 3T, nuke the Nougat it presumably ships with, and "upgrade" down to Android 6 w/ Xposed. I doubt that path will be an option with later hardware releases.
What's the best, cutting edge Xposed-compatible hardware—presuming I might still be running it 5 years from now?

None.
Also hardware isnt the issue. Software is.
A one plus will stipl run great after 5 years.
But probably new security issues will arise and there won't be bug fixes to those things from anyone.
Maybe there will be other alternatives to exposed, but personally speaking, my current nexus 6 wipl be my last smartphone.
I will either not use one in the future or simply continue using this phone until it dies.
Appart from being utterly disgusted by the regression of technology (removable batteries gone, headphone jacks gone, lack of support),
I also cant stand the privacy issues.

shadowcore said:
hardware isnt the issue. Software is.
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I disagree, unless you were making a reference to Wirth's law. My Nexus 5 crawls today in comparison to how it ran years ago, and I'm constantly short on RAM when I wasn't in the past. Most of this is the bloat caused by apps. It will help, of course, that the OS wouldn't be upgraded.
A one plus will stipl run great after 5 years.
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I also perform the hardware repair on my N5 myself, so that's a factor. Things like battery replacement come into play after years of use.
But probably new security issues will arise and there won't be bug fixes to those things from anyone.
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That's effectively where I'm at now. The OTAs won't apply, and I don't care enough to go through the gyrations to update the OS with the patches.

organophosphate said:
I disagree, unless you were making a reference to Wirth's law. My Nexus 5 crawls today in comparison to how it ran years ago, and I'm constantly short on RAM when I wasn't in the past. Most of this is the bloat caused by apps. It will help, of course, that the OS wouldn't be upgraded.
I also perform the hardware repair on my N5 myself, so that's a factor. Things like battery replacement come into play after years of use.
That's effectively where I'm at now. The OTAs won't apply, and I don't care enough to go through the gyrations to update the OS with the patches.
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Agreed I have Nexus 5, Redmi Note 3, Redmi Note 4, Moto G5 Plus, Mi5 at home
Nexus 5 feels ancient now though I love the form factor and the occasional times when it runs smooth off late
Im guessing EMMC might be degrading

Then I should buy more Android Phones, at least one for shopping, one for apps at sixes and sevens. I am in China and most of the apps don't want to obey the rules...
Plus: less pleasure for personalizing

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Please keep on topic and refrain from xposed lifespan assumptions , the OP is asking for a different opinion
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you pretty much already have my suggestion.... a OnePlus 3T. since you seem to need xposed (imho, just move on) all new phones will obviously be shipping with android 7.xx+, the 3T is the best phone to get. i doubt there will be an update to xposed so eventually you will need to update and its obvious that later android version will have superior memory management to make use of the 3T's memory.
if by chance, xposed does somehow live you will still be left with a great phone that is only further made better by whatever android version is available. a few weeks ago i helped several classmates switch ROM's. they all bought 3T's due to my recommendation. all are very happy. i suggest you get one while they are still available. i hope this helps! cheers!

droidbot1337 said:
you pretty much already have my suggestion.... a OnePlus 3T.
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Thanks.
since you seem to need xposed (imho, just move on)
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Well, I *need* XPrivacy and not only is that dependent on Xposed but I subsequently found out that development likely won't support anything later than Marshmallow. So, that's where I'll be indefinitely until someone replicates that.
they all bought 3T's due to my recommendation. all are very happy. i suggest you get one while they are still available. i hope this helps! cheers!
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It does. Thanks. The largest concern is battery replacement, as it seems there are no genuine replacement batteries. Maybe that will change in a few years, though.

Well, I *need* XPrivacy.......
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well, if privacy is your concern their are many apps that can help. your familiari with AFWall+ so there's that. you could also use Island by Oasisfeng. i mostly use it to hide my friends titpics and my snapchat, kik accounts but the app will eventually be able to do so much more.
i dont know what type of privacy concerns you have but a firewall should be enough unless your either a spy or just paranoid.
The largest concern is battery replacement....
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you can find parts for this phone with an easy google search. i purchased a replacement screen for a friend that accidentally dropped her 3T from a balcony at school.
i truly suggest you move on to N. soon there O will be released and with it so many worthwhile features. if your lucky enough to get the chance to use it i suggest you do and not pass due to the lack of xposed. while i agree that xposed is great, its not worth passing over on updating to a better android release.
btw, now that there has been more info on the 1+5, i suggest you wait. give island a try and then i hope you go for the 1+5. cheers!

droidbot1337 said:
well, if privacy is your concern their are many apps that can help. your familiari with AFWall+ so there's that.
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In addition to XPrivacy, I'm already using AFWall+, AppOps Xposed, and an always-on VPN.
you could also use Island by Oasisfeng. i mostly use it to hide my friends titpics and my snapchat, kik accounts but the app will eventually be able to do so much more.
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Cool, I'll check it out for consideration to be added it into the mix. Thanks.
i dont know what type of privacy concerns you have but a firewall should be enough unless your either a spy or just paranoid.
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A firewall is necessary but insufficient due to in-band privacy leaks. I require XPrivacy to intercept calls and feed apps fake data. There is really no substitute for Xposed for this type of approach; you may remember PDroid and how clunky that was.
you can find parts for this phone with an easy google search.
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Hm. I was unable to find a genuine OnePlus 3T battery. I found a few obviously counterfeit batteries from dodgy ebay vendors, but I would certainly appreciate it if you could point me to a source for a genuine new replacement battery for a 3T.
i truly suggest you move on to N. soon there O will be released and with it so many worthwhile features.
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Thanks for sharing your perspective, but I'd rather not have a smartphone than to go without XPrivacy or its equivalent. I certainly need XPrivacy a lot more than I need some new UX. I already disable all the "cool" creepy google **** like google now cards and I deny the google app access to my mic & location (well, location services is disabled altogether, but you get the point). My smartphone on MM does what I want it to do, and I really don't need it to do anything more—especially if it comes at the cost of losing the fine-grained control over apps one has via XPrivacy.

Hijacking the thread, since you posted some nice alternatives. What about us that can't live without Amplify and Greenify?

FenrirMX said:
Hijacking the thread, since you posted some nice alternatives. What about us that can't live without Amplify and Greenify?
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Greenify doesn't require Xposed to work, just for the "boost" features. It works just fine on my 6P running 7.1.2, which means I have no Xposed.

another thread hijack since someone mention xposed module alternatives
can someone create a thread specifically list down all the alternatives for xposed modules? I am switching to S8 which is nougat only so I need to find alternatives for my xposed modules
- app settings: no alt
- appopsxposed: no alt
- boot manager: no alt
- nekosms: samsung default messaging app block feature (although not as complete)
- rootcloak: magisk
- xtouchwiz: manually deal with csc xml

Garock said:
another thread hijack since someone mention xposed module alternatives
can someone create a thread specifically list down all the alternatives for xposed modules? I am switching to S8 which is nougat only so I need to find alternatives for my xposed modules
- app settings: no alt
- appopsxposed: no alt
- boot manager: no alt
- nekosms: samsung default messaging app block feature (although not as complete)
- rootcloak: magisk
- xtouchwiz: manually deal with csc xml
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Does Magisk directly replace Rootcloak? Doesn't Magiskhide only hide Magisk, not root?

ldeveraux said:
Does Magisk directly replace Rootcloak? Doesn't Magiskhide only hide Magisk, not root?
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Magisk hides its root.

josephcsible said:
Magisk hides its root.
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Right, not SuperSU though.

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Right, not SuperSU though.
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not sure but I thought magisk hide will also hide root from other apps
but you're correct, magisk hide needs magisksu and cannot work with supersu

Root or Not Root that's the question

Hi together,
I am wondering which benefits I can expect from rooting my device.
One thing that comes to my mind is having an option to use face unlock for older unlock APIs.
What do you guys think?

Tirade incoming...
I'm probably in the minority, but I won't buy a phone I cannot root. The idea that the phone that I paid $1000 for up front is under the control of other companies seems wrong to me. I have full control over my computers... my ISP doesn't tell me what I can run on it and can't force me to use their DNS; Microsoft doesn't tell me that I'm breaking a EULA by running admin programs; my bank's website doesn't refuse to load because I'm running a lot of browser extensions that can modify the page. Google says they respect that people want control over their phones but they also say they respect app creator's wanting to run on an unmodified device. I throw those companies to the wind and don't look back. If only Google would stop blocking access to things and requiring us to use root to gain them back. They give and take features almost constantly and it often feels like a losing battle.
Ideology aside, there are so many small things that can be done through rooting. The next best alternative is either awkward or non-existent. I could name them off, but each thing on their own is easily dismissable is about preference. But if I had to use a phone that had none of my modifications/tweaks, I would be fairly unhappy. I don't think you'll understand the difference until you're actually changing your phone significantly as a whole then have to consider going back. A lot of things you won't know you even wanted until you find that they're possible... and a lot of things you'll look at and not even care about, despite them being popular to other people. That's what rooting is to me. Choices and options... in a world where Apple and even Google think that less is more.
I think if you're willing to experiment and put a significant amount of time in doing so, you should dive in and find out what you like. But if you're on the ropes about it, then you might not get into it.

jljtgr said:
Tirade incoming...
I'm probably in the minority, but I won't buy a phone I cannot root. The idea that the phone that I paid $1000 for up front is under the control of other companies seems wrong to me. I have full control over my computers... my ISP doesn't tell me what I can run on it and can't force me to use their DNS; Microsoft doesn't tell me that I'm breaking a EULA by running admin programs; my bank's website doesn't refuse to load because I'm running a lot of browser extensions that can modify the page. Google says they respect that people want control over their phones but they also say they respect app creator's wanting to run on an unmodified device. I throw those companies to the wind and don't look back. If only Google would stop blocking access to things and requiring us to use root to gain them back. They give and take features almost constantly and it often feels like a losing battle.
Ideology aside, there are so many small things that can be done through rooting. The next best alternative is either awkward or non-existent. I could name them off, but each thing on their own is easily dismissable is about preference. But if I had to use a phone that had none of my modifications/tweaks, I would be fairly unhappy. I don't think you'll understand the difference until you're actually changing your phone significantly as a whole then have to consider going back. A lot of things you won't know you even wanted until you find that they're possible... and a lot of things you'll look at and not even care about, despite them being popular to other people. That's what rooting is to me. Choices and options... in a world where Apple and even Google think that less is more.
I think if you're willing to experiment and put a significant amount of time in doing so, you should dive in and find out what you like. But if you're on the ropes about it, then you might not get into it.
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To make that clear. I rooted every android phone I owned up to now. There has been always a thing that bothered me about the stock ROM.
But this time I feel like everything is working out of the box. (Except face unlock for ing, which sux)
I get your point and you are totally right. But I'm not sure if I want to change so much and having to update on my own and other things is to much work for me.

SeppGoPro said:
To make that clear. I rooted every android phone I owned up to now. There has been always a thing that bothered me about the stock ROM.
But this time I feel like everything is working out of the box. (Except face unlock for ing, which sux)
I get your point and you are totally right. But I'm not sure if I want to change so much and having to update on my own and other things is to much work for me.
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I hear you. Rooting used to be fun and easy but it's more work than I want to deal with at this point.
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It takes me longer the download the stock image to do updates with than it takes me to re-root the phone after the update. I wonder why it seems like a lot of work to you.
PS. My broadband ISP is slow....

jljtgr said:
It takes me longer the download the stock image to do updates with than it takes me to re-root the phone after the update. I wonder why it seems like a lot of work to you.
PS. My broadband ISP is slow....
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It takes more time, which you actively have to spend. It's not like ow there is an update. Ok install done.
You have to go through all steps. You have to e.g. change settings in build.prop again. Flash kernel or what ever.
One example with rooted and problems with apps I'm always unsure if it's due to root or due to the rom. Stuff like this.

I don't have to do either of those things. My build.prop changes are systemlessly handled by a Magisk module that just works as soon as I'm rooted again. YMMV.
I've spent more time writing in this thread than my monthly process takes. If you don't have that time, then fine. You've answered your own question?

I've rooted all my devices except the pixel ones. There's absolutely no need for me to root a pixel device, everything is working as I want out of the box. That's one reason that development for the pixel 4/xl is nearly non existent.

ROOT! #1 reason Fingerface for fingerprint only APIs, other than that I agree the Pixel phones don't need any modifications. I hope the Pixel 5 will bring back the FP, face unlock sucks with a mask!

dave5777 said:
ROOT! #1 reason Fingerface for fingerprint only APIs, other than that I agree the Pixel phones don't need any modifications. I hope the Pixel 5 will bring back the FP, face unlock sucks with a mask!
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Yes this would be the only reason for me.

first reason finger face
second reason motion sense..
now on android beta 2.5 not rooted

Why choose android if you are going to use a limited system?
If i could live without root i would just go iPhone way

fuarkgl3 said:
Why choose android if you are going to use a limited system?
If i could live without root i would just go iPhone way
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Cause the limited system will do what most people need it to do

dave5777 said:
ROOT! #1 reason Fingerface for fingerprint only APIs, other than that I agree the Pixel phones don't need any modifications. I hope the Pixel 5 will bring back the FP, face unlock sucks with a mask!
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Pull it down for half a sec.

Mackay53 said:
Cause the limited system will do what most people need it to do
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Again. If you are going to use a limited system why choose android over iOS?
I don't understand your reply

fuarkgl3 said:
Again. If you are going to use a limited system why choose android over iOS?
I don't understand your reply
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Because many people like what Android has to offer over iOS, simple. Rooting isn't as useful as what it used to be

Does google pay work currently root? Magisk hide?
Or is that out of the question now...

xtravbx said:
Does google pay work currently root? Magisk hide?
Or is that out of the question now...
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From what I've been reading it's going to be hard to get Google Pay to work with root. I only use root to bring back the 2 button gesture using a Magisk module. I don't know if it's worth it anymore.

xtravbx said:
Does google pay work currently root? Magisk hide?
Or is that out of the question now...
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Google pay works right now for me and I'm rooted running 11 beta 2.5.

fr0st420 said:
From what I've been reading it's going to be hard to get Google Pay to work with root. I only use root to bring back the 2 button gesture using a Magisk module. I don't know if it's worth it anymore.
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I want to root so I can run ProtonVPN (or any VPN really) alongside Adguard. You can't run them side x side without root....
Admittedly a little sick of the whole big brother thing, so wouldn't mind obscuring my traffic a bit.

Question Does it worth rooting pixel 7?

I'm receiving my Google Pixel 7 tomorrow. I'm coming from Pixel 6 and before coming from a Pixel 4. The last device I rooted was Oneplus 6T and was before the pixels I've got. So, my question is, does it worth root for this device? What would be the benefits nowadays? I've got the pixel 7 from Google unlocked. Thanks in advance

imrock666 said:
I'm receiving my Google Pixel 7 tomorrow. I'm coming from Pixel 6 and before coming from a Pixel 4. The last device I rooted was Oneplus 6T and was before the pixels I've got. So, my question is, does it worth root for this device? What would be the benefits nowadays? I've got the pixel 7 from Google unlocked. Thanks in advance
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To answer your question, I would say it's worth it. You can get system wide AdBlock. Some apps require it like audio mods. You can also get LSPosed and ASOPMods which will give you a bunch of tweaks on the stock rom without having to use a custom ROM, among other things, but in the end it's up to you

Thanks, for the reply. My bad about the miss understanding. The Google pay always it's patched and possibly to use? My question resides since I use it a lot

imrock666 said:
Thanks, for the reply. My bad about the miss understanding. The Google pay always it's patched and possibly to use? My question resides since I use it a lot
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Google Pay might be disabled when you root it though.

imrock666 said:
Thanks, for the reply. My bad about the miss understanding. The Google pay always it's patched and possibly to use? My question resides since I use it a lot
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Im rooted and I have no problem doing payments with the NFC

I think that the people that use XDA are likely to be in favor of rooting, after all they are mostly hackers anyway. I have to say I haven't rooted one of my phones in years, android has gotten so good that most of the features that rooting provided are available without rooting now.
That being said, I think you know the answer. If there is something you want on your phone that you can only get by rooting, then you should root. The Pixel series seems to be very well supported by the community.

Thank you guys for the reply. I've been far from the scene but i know what you say it's right. I'll take a look to the topics to see if I need something that worth root.

AdAway -that's why I root, and it's worth it. I hate ads and a system wide ad blocker is awesome. Also, the AOSP mods module (you can find it on XDA) helps customize a stock rooted device very well.
*But I don't use banking apps, so if you do - root may not be worth the hassle or the security risk.

O.J. Simpson said:
AdAway -that's why I root, and it's worth it. I hate ads and a system wide ad blocker is awesome. Also, the AOSP mods module (you can find it on XDA) helps customize a stock rooted device very well.
*But I don't use banking apps, so if you do - root may not be worth the hassle or the security risk.
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If ad blocking is your main reason to root, you should look into things that can be done via dns from your router to every device in your home no software required. That being said, unlocking the bootloader on my Samsung tablet and pixel experience gsi actually made me appreciate some of the pixels ui. Root doesn't really matter like it used to for me, but in principle I should be allowed admin privilege on a device I paid for.

Thanks, pal. I'm still thinking in rooting the pixel 7. I've just got it but in my opinion has everything you need out of the box. Times are changing now.

imrock666 said:
Thanks, pal. I'm still thinking in rooting the pixel 7. I've just got it but in my opinion has everything you need out of the box. Times are changing now.
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The nice thing regarding rooting are the possible extra functions you may want to add then using modules and apps. I tested many custom ROMs for the Pixel 6 and 7, but always went back to the stock ROM. With many custom ROMs I had problems, bugs and glitches. Now rooted stock plus a custom kernel is my setup of choice.
As you may know, root can be a serious security risk if you don't know what you do or if you f* up badly getting hacked or something like that. And maybe some banking apps and stuff like that won't work with a rooted device, but there's workarounds for that maybe.
I use latest stable Magisk, AdAway to block ads and tracking via systemless hosts file, and App Ops with Sui by Rikka. With App Ops you have advanced permission settings for apps, which is good for privacy.
Using App Ops and AdAway in hosts mode would not be possible without root, and for the Kirisakura Kernel a Magisk module is needed too. Swift backup, which I use for complete backups needs root too for some features.
App Ops and Swift Backup are not FOSS sadly. I wish they were and there are people saying that they can not be trusted if they are not open source. On the other side they are very well implemented apps which just work. So I use them.

talksickisil said:
If ad blocking is your main reason to root, you should look into things that can be done via dns from your router to every device in your home no software required. That being said, unlocking the bootloader on my Samsung tablet and pixel experience gsi actually made me appreciate some of the pixels ui. Root doesn't really matter like it used to for me, but in principle I should be allowed admin privilege on a device I paid for.
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Ad blocking isn't my main reason, but thanks for the advice. I've been using AdAway for over a decade and it's a simple solution on the device side of things, and I like to keep things simple. I will look into your solution for my home Wifi network though.
But rooting allows you to add or delete features, so combined with AdAway, a custom kernel, and a few modifications on my stock pixel 7 rom - I have a device that performs better, does what I want when I want, and without obnoxious ads - regardless of the network I'm on

O.J. Simpson said:
Ad blocking isn't my main reason, but thanks for the advice. I've been using AdAway for over a decade and it's a simple solution on the device side of things, and I like to keep things simple. I will look into your solution for my home Wifi network though.
But rooting allows you to add or delete features, so combined with AdAway, a custom kernel, and a few modifications on my stock pixel 7 rom - I have a device that performs better, does what I want when I want, and without obnoxious ads - regardless of the network I'm on
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We are on the same page about root privilege. I just figured I'd mention there are other options available if anybody reading this actually is only rooting for ad control.

talksickisil said:
We are on the same page about root privilege. I just figured I'd mention there are other options available if anybody reading this actually is only rooting for ad control.
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Sure, one can always stay unrooted and use the non-root mode of AdAway, use adguard DNS ( dns.adguard.com ) or personalDNSfilter e.g. ... During the last years I sometimes used adguard, atm using AdAway with root on my Pixel 7 but on my unrooted Nokia 8010 TV box I use personalDNSfilter (our GUI does not support Android TV very well, but it runs).

t-ryder said:
Sure, one can always stay unrooted and use the non-root mode of AdAway, use adguard DNS ( dns.adguard.com ) or personalDNSfilter e.g. ... During the last years I sometimes used adguard, atm using AdAway with root on my Pixel 7 but on my unrooted Nokia 8010 TV box I use personalDNSfilter (our GUI does not support Android TV very well, but it runs).
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I definitely recommend to anybody rooted or not to look into setting up pi hole for network wide host list enforcement. I also recommend a 30 day trial on controld.com . Very versatile and I have been subscribed @4 dollars a month happily. Not trying to shill but I love what can be done with it. And it carries over to your cellular network when you aren't on wifi. Also there's nextdns and Adguard home which are great as well. Controld allows you to change you ip locale like a VPN, without being on VPN. If you do a trial you'll probably want to keep it. Word of warning

talksickisil said:
We are on the same page about root privilege. I just figured I'd mention there are other options available if anybody reading this actually is only rooting for ad control.
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Much appreciated. And I guess that's the purpose of forums like this - public discourse and sharing of information.
Take care, homie

t-ryder said:
Sure, one can always stay unrooted and use the non-root mode of AdAway, use adguard DNS ( dns.adguard.com ) or personalDNSfilter e.g. ... During the last years I sometimes used adguard, atm using AdAway with root on my Pixel 7 but on my unrooted Nokia 8010 TV box I use personalDNSfilter (our GUI does not support Android TV very well, but it runs).
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