In apples when in lost mode, you will never unlock the device even after flashing a new firmware.
But what about in Sony? After locking it, will it unlock by flashing a ftf?
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In apples when in lost mode, you will never unlock the device even after flashing a new firmware.
But what about in Sony? After locking it, will it unlock by flashing a ftf?
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most likely it will be usable again but all data will be gone.
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most likely it will be usable again but all data will be gone.
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I am not in such status now, I just wanna know if i lock my Z1 using my Xperia and someone who stole or found it can they unlock it by flashing a new firmware?
in iOS it doesn't!
Nothing compares to iOS's lost mode, it ties deep into the device's hardware.
No Android device has a feature that's similar to iOS 7's activation lock. Even Samsung's Note 3 "equivalent" could surely be done away with by flashing CM.
There are always ways around it. Even using hardware encryption. I guarantee you apple has an algorithm that will generate a password when needed if you call in to tech support. This will be hacked.
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Android (MUST) add feature!
How the best Mobile OS could lack this feature?
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Android (MUST) add feature!
How the best Mobile OS could lack this feature?
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By not being manufactured by the same company as mentioned by another member, Apple's Lost Mode ties deep into hardware which requires certain hardware support, which is not the case for Android phones since the software and hardware are by different companies.
you can use it again
Avast mobile security has functions and features like this with things in place to prevent flashing recoveries and such like, but to be fair, once your phone is stolen the only need of security software is to ensure your data is wiped. Everything else is unimportant as people will always find a way to reactivate a phone eventually, and you are very unlikely to get it back.
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By not being manufactured by the same company as mentioned by another member, Apple's Lost Mode ties deep into hardware which requires certain hardware support, which is not the case for Android phones since the software and hardware are by different companies.
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All of the manufacturers use the same API and OS, Android must release such an API then the manufacturers can compile them into there Firmware...
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All of the manufacturers use the same API and OS, Android must release such an API then the manufacturers can compile them into there Firmware...
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Not really. API levels differ between Android versions, so different Android versions can have different sets of API available. Google could arguably incorporate such a feature into Google Play Services, but then the hardware portion is missing so even if manufacturers had such an option, the prerequisite hardware support must be present and unfortunately pretty much all Android devices to my knowledge don't have such a thing
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Not really. API levels differ between Android versions, so different Android versions can have different sets of API available. Google could arguably incorporate such a feature into Google Play Services, but then the hardware portion is missing so even if manufacturers had such an option, the prerequisite hardware support must be present and unfortunately pretty much all Android devices to my knowledge don't have such a thing
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I agree with you but like Apple, why should someone loss there data and phone because of a disaster?
I am sure Android may be working on it#!#?
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I agree with you but like Apple, why should someone loss there data and phone because of a disaster?
I am sure Android may be working on it#!#?
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If an Apple user lost his/her phone, the data and phone would be gone too software based solutions cannot resist an OS wipe, and there's little Google can do about it.
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If an Apple user lost his/her phone, the data and phone would be gone too software based solutions cannot resist an OS wipe, and there's little Google can do about it.
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But if we had a backup in our PC or Cloud so we could restore it easily. At least you don't have to pay for a new phone.
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But if we had a backup in our PC or Cloud so we could restore it easily. At least you don't have to pay for a new phone.
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Uhh? If an iPhone user lost his phone, why wouldn't he have to pay for a new phone? I don't think Apple gives people who lost their phones new ones As for backups, app backups can be done with the adb backup command on your computer. Nandroids would work on the same phone model as well, as would apps like Titanium Backup and Helium.
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Uhh? If an iPhone user lost his phone, why wouldn't he have to pay for a new phone? I don't think Apple gives people who lost their phones new ones As for backups, app backups can be done with the adb backup command on your computer. Nandroids would work on the same phone model as well, as would apps like Titanium Backup and Helium.
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I argue for lost phone not data!
Atleast i won't buy a new phone if lost mine in such way.
My aunt lost her IPhone and she found it after 2 days, she also synced her Pictures from the cloud and apps from the iTunes.
THAT'S IT!
Well... i feel jealous in this case cuz i hate Apple. Lol
Android must work on some security features, they can even make something better than Apple's.
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I argue for lost phone not data!
Atleast i won't buy a new phone if lost mine in such way.
My aunt lost her IPhone and she found it after 2 days, she also synced her Pictures from the cloud and apps from the iTunes.
THAT'S IT!
Well... i feel jealous in this case cuz i hate Apple. Lol
Android must work on some security features, they can even make something better than Apple's.
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I don't really get you... you're saying that if a person loses his phone, he also loses his data?
While this is true for apps, some games now sync game saves to the cloud so it is accessible on other devices and for backup purposes, while for photos, you can try Dropbox or Google+, both have automatic photo and video uploading as well
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I don't really get you... you're saying that if a person loses his phone, he also loses his data?
While this is true for apps, some games now sync game saves to the cloud so it is accessible on other devices and for backup purposes, while for photos, you can try Dropbox or Google+, both have automatic photo and video uploading as well
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If you lost your Android Phone then forgot about your Data in your phone, Unless you have a backup ( Nandroid, Cloud, Titanium.....)
There's very less chance to you if you find your phone again. So... Can you live phoneless? PROBABLY NO!
You need to buy a new phone in sucha condition.
In Apple finding your phone after losing it is easy, and your data will be never extracted.
I am an entry level dev and i can extract data from any Android phone but in Apple nobody did yet.
So i want Android (The best OS ever in mine and everyone is view) to create such feature in there upcoming version API, Source code or..... then other manufacturers can compile them into there Firmwares..
By anymean i found Apple's lost mode better than Android device manager or manufacturer's specific.
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If you lost your Android Phone then forgot about your Data in your phone, Unless you have a backup ( Nandroid, Cloud, Titanium.....)
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True, which is why people should backup more often. Helium has a scheduled backup option
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In Apple finding your phone after losing it is easy, and your data will be never extracted.
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Ehh? If your phone goes missing and it shows up in another country because someone stole it, I would think it isn't very easy to get it back
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I am an entry level dev and i can extract data from any Android phone
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You can't if the person encrypted his Android phone That's another way to protect your data if you so wish.
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So i want Android (The best OS ever in mine and everyone is view) to create such feature in there upcoming version API, Source code or..... then other manufacturers can compile them into there Firmwares..
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As mentioned above, the hardware support has to be present, else software based solutions can only do so much.
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How do you guys think about the rumored cloud backup of Google? I think it would be great to have such a function and! I just don't want to use apps like titanium etc. I just want my phone to recover settings, apps, mail accounts and more when doing a restore after flashing.
Back to the topic. Is there any more news on this subject?
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How do you guys think about the rumored cloud backup of Google? I think it would be great to have such a function and! I just don't want to use apps like titanium etc. I just want my phone to recover settings, apps, mail accounts and more when doing a restore after flashing.
Back to the topic. Is there any more news on this subject?
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In all honesty I am not a big fan of titanium backup at all.
I would actually love this, it would be good if it wasn't Nexus 5 specific but android specific so I could move to any other phone when its out and not reconfigure it.
Yeah there was some info at first, but now its all silentmode
http://m.digitaltrends.com/mobile/nexus-5-leaks-time-hints-cloud-backup-android-4-4-kitkat/
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Helium is a great alternative to Titanium, and you don't need root. Looks much nicer as well, very Google-esque
I for one used to HATE titanium, and I found the GUI very confusing and hard to understand. But. Once I got used to it I found it to be one of the most useful apps i've purchased. Just my thoughts
On the google backup thing, I think it would be cool. But i'd have to see how it was implemented.
titanium bu is for noobs. I would NEVER use it. I'd rather lose all my data,
Backing up / restoring user data is never a good idea in IMO. I'm not saying it doesn't work, but, show me the thread with the guy/gal that has issues from not restoring from a other brand/model phone....... its just not a good idea. Even with the same model phone, its just poor practice.
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titanium bu is for noobs. I would NEVER use it. I'd rather lose all my data,
Backing up / restoring user data is never a good idea in IMO. I'm not saying it doesn't work, but, show me the thread with the guy/gal that has issues from not restoring from a other brand/model phone....... its just not a good idea. Even with the same model phone, its just poor practice.
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Why? I've been doing it for years across a dozen different phones and I've never had an issue. As long as you're not restoring system data, any problems are usually due to user error.
I get that you personally don't like TB, but you can't just make a broad generalization based on your own opinion. There's already too much of that going on in the N5 forums.
Same here. Been using TB since the Captivate days and still do. Never had an issue restoring user apps and data.
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titanium bu is for noobs. I would NEVER use it. I'd rather lose all my data,
Backing up / restoring user data is never a good idea in IMO. I'm not saying it doesn't work, but, show me the thread with the guy/gal that has issues from not restoring from a other brand/model phone....... its just not a good idea. Even with the same model phone, its just poor practice.
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just because YOU don't know how to use it, you shouldn't call them as 'noobs.'
been using titanium for years. it works fine. user friendly.
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Why? I've been doing it for years across a dozen different phones and I've never had an issue. As long as you're not restoring system data, any problems are usually due to user error.
I get that you personally don't like TB, but you can't just make a broad generalization based on your own opinion. There's already too much of that going on in the N5 forums.
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Actually. I did just make a broad generalization based on my own opinion. Something i am granted to do. You won't see the threads with people complaining that their device is working fine after doing the b/u manually. These apps that fleece users for doing the dumbest **** piss me off.
1 Figure out WHY.HOW it can do the backup.
2.DO it yourself.
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Actually. I did just make a broad generalization based on my own opinion. Something i am granted to do. You won't see the threads with people complaining that their device is working fine after doing the b/u manually. These apps that fleece users for doing the dumbest **** piss me off.
1 Figure out WHY.HOW it can do the backup.
2.DO it yourself.
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I've gotten more utility out of TB than any other app I've ever paid for. My experience with TB has been the exact opposite of whatever your definition of "fleecing" is. But whatever, bro. If you need to be unpleasant, knock yourself out.
I'd really like the ability for a back up app to remember my Google music "pins". Since I tend to pin a ton, I don't have the space to backup the music app itself.
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Helium is a great alternative to Titanium, and you don't need root. Looks much nicer as well, very Google-esque
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Helium is terrible, it looks nice but it has tons of problems(read the reviews). It has trouble restoring many apps data especially if you use the cloud storage option.
apristel said:
Actually. I did just make a broad generalization based on my own opinion. Something i am granted to do. You won't see the threads with people complaining that their device is working fine after doing the b/u manually. These apps that fleece users for doing the dumbest **** piss me off.
1 Figure out WHY.HOW it can do the backup.
2.DO it yourself.
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You next to chill dude. I agree that tibu has its limitations and is over sold for what it claims it can do. But it has its place. Others opinions are just as valid as yours.
aohus said:
just because YOU don't know how to use it, you shouldn't call them as 'noobs.'
been using titanium for years. it works fine. user friendly.
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I don't recall saying i never used it. weird....my computer must be posting for me.
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You next to chill dude. I agree that tibu has its limitations and is over sold for what it claims it can do. But it has its place. Others opinions are just as valid as yours.
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I'll agree with your point. Very valid. While it does work most of the time, it seriously cannot be trusted to restore between devices/versions of android.. These are my opinions, however, it has sold/worked for many.
thanks. ( i did actually thank you buy limited to 8 per day.)
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I don't recall saying i never used it. weird....my computer must be posting for me.
I'll agree with your point. Very valid. While it does work most of the time, it seriously cannot be trusted to restore between devices/versions of android.. These are my opinions, however, it has sold/worked for many.
thanks. ( i did actually thank you buy limited to 8 per day.)
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I just used TB and Box storage to migrate from my N4 to my N5. No problems. TB has supported syncing backups to / from cloud storage for some time now.
rg1003 said:
I just used TB and Box storage to migrate from my N4 to my N5. No problems. TB has supported syncing backups to / from cloud storage for some time now.
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i never said it didn't do cloud backup... local/cloud backup has nothing to do with it.....what would the difference be?
I guess i am coming off wrong... You can't expect your phone to function normally doing something it isn't intended to do.
My honda civic is running wrong. I've been beating the ish out of it all week. whats wrong? damn honda.
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I guess i am coming off wrong...
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Maybe just cluttered. I think your trying to say restoring app DATA along with the app is a bad idea. I agree with you if you are referring to system apps. Migration from ROM to ROM will cause issues. Phone A to phone B would be an epic failure. However I see very few problems when restoring user apps and data. I personally stopped using TB and now use Android Tuner. It has about everything you could ask for in a root package app.
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Maybe just cluttered. I think your trying to say restoring app DATA along with the app is a bad idea. I agree with you if you are referring to system apps. Migration from ROM to ROM will cause issues. Phone A to phone B would be an epic failure. However I see very few problems when restoring user apps and data. I personally stopped using TB and now use Android Tuner. It has about everything you could ask for in a root package app.
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fair statement. I still don't believe in backing up any data (besides full nandroid). 9/10 times you won't have issues starting freshhhhh.
It seems the Jail Break/Root is coming to Windows Phone 8 soon. It may free more features from wp8. Looking forward to it. :laugh:
Room408Design said:
It seems the Jail Break/Root is coming to Windows Phone 8 soon. It may free more features from wp8. Looking forward to it. :laugh:
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For the moment, not too hope...
Yeah, the closest we have right now is the capability-unlock for Samsung phones. That's not a full root (working on it!) and beyond that, we have almost nothing.
GoodDayToDie said:
Yeah, the closest we have right now is the capability-unlock for Samsung phones. That's not a full root (working on it!) and beyond that, we have almost nothing.
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Anyone find any new news on this so called "920 Unlock" that has been claimed it will be released soon ? If this is true, this could open the doors to most WP devices...
The only thing I saw was Ultrashot saying it was a Riffbox "hack" (meaning you'd need to have some special hardware and probably physically open up your phone, to do it).
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The only thing I saw was Ultrashot saying it was a Riffbox "hack" (meaning you'd need to have some special hardware and probably physically open up your phone, to do it).
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It's still better than nothing ^^
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It's still better than nothing ^^
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and that's also not that easy ( retail)
because the wp8 phones also have so called E-fuse in Soc
on retail they are blown ( even the Jtag E-fuses are blown)
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It's still better than nothing ^^
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its also unbelievably dodgy if you don't know what your doing.
You effectively connect directly to the ROM chip, an I mean that in a physical sense and rewrite any data you want, you can "root" anything doing this as you'll bypass any security measures, its just a matter of getting the correct software to flash on to the thing that's tricky, oh and the small matter cracking open your device, locating the chip, working out the necessary configurations to power it up and flash it
I did some research on this for the focus S and yes its possible but its way beyond my abilities
ceesheim said:
and that's also not that easy ( retail)
because the wp8 phones also have so called E-fuse in Soc
on retail they are blown ( even the Jtag E-fuses are blown)
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And there you have it, its even harder on WP8!
It's dispointing for sure....All I want is 3 rows of tiles and custom colors on my 928.... is this too much to ask ? (Not at Devs at Microsoft)...
Then get the ATIV Odyssey, which I just unlocked InteropUnlocked Sunday, except three tiles might be overkill on a 480x800 screen. O_0
I haven't updated to GDR3 yet because I'm not sure how to avoid Diagnosis' changes once I update.
It's been updated with a XAP...
http://www.silenstd.com/silenall/silentech/highxap/
any idea if it's any good or if we need an account to download it ?
DavidinCT said:
It's been updated with a XAP...
http://www.silenstd.com/silenall/silentech/highxap/
any idea if it's any good or if we need an account to download it ?
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Deploy with SDK, BUT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2435697&page=48
lumia 625 root
Hi thanx for all the hard work.
Could anyone tell me if there is any way of rooting Lumia 625
meccy said:
Hi thanx for all the hard work.
Could anyone tell me if there is any way of rooting Lumia 625
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If you are 8.1 user use custom wpsystem and customPFD
also you can use resource hacker of djamol after that . Using resource hacker is not maybe very safe for this time so wait for it
Note that djamol's hacks don't make a complete root, though they are the closest thing that is public right now for a Lumia like yours. Nobody's going to say anything about a full root until it's ready, and ideally not even then not until after a major update (to give the most possible time before MS <REDACTED>s us over with an update that takes away control of our personal devices again).
Hi there guys, I have not (yet) rooted my Z1 or flashed any custom roms.
I have however, been waiting patiently for the new KitKat OTA update. I've been reading loads of news posts about how Sony has released the firmware globally now but I still have not received it and I'm starting to feel quite left out .
Is there something I'm missing or can anyone recommend a way of triggering the update?
wait, but if you are really desperate just flash a 4.4.2 FTF
gregbradley said:
wait, but if you are really desperate just flash a 4.4.2 FTF
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Surely if they're are already rolling out "globally" then something has gone wrong with my phone?
Also does this new firmware come with the same KitKat writing to SD problems?
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Surely if they're are already rolling out "globally" then something has gone wrong with my phone?
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No not necessarily, rollouts take upto 2 months depending on location and carrier
Also does this new firmware come with the same KitKat writing to SD problems?
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That is not a problem, it is actually a fix for a security vulnerability and it is implemented on all KK versions.
Hmm.
A "fix", for me at least, doesn't involve removing functionality from the device especially when workarounds have already been found.
Reminds me of when Sony removed the second OS function from the PS3 on "security" grounds.
freerangeninja said:
Hmm.
A "fix", for me at least, doesn't involve removing functionality from the device especially when workarounds have already been found.
Reminds me of when Sony removed the second OS function from the PS3 on "security" grounds.
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This has nothing to do with Sony, google have implemented it and as part of the contarct with google EVERY company must implement it.
This solves the security problem that was in place before, it should have been done a lot sooner and in actual fact makes your device more secure. It didn't make sense that it was not in place before.
Yes, there are workarounds, but they break the security, so you make your choice....
Eventually apps will be updated with the correct permissions and you wont even notice the difference
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This has nothing to do with Sony, google have implemented it and as part of the contarct with google EVERY company must implement it.
This solves the security problem that was in place before, it should have been done a lot sooner and in actual fact makes your device more secure. It didn't make sense that it was not in place before.
Yes, there are workarounds, but they break the security, so you make your choice....
Eventually apps will be updated with the correct permissions and you wont even notice the difference
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Let's say I don't use a device with the SD, I use one without it and to store my stuff, sensitive information, I use the internal. Where is now the security in all of this?
eclyptos said:
Let's say I don't use a device with the SD, I use one without it and to store my stuff, sensitive information, I use the internal. Where is now the security in all of this?
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The internal SDcard supports file permissions. The external one did not.
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The internal SDcard supports file permissions. The external one did not.
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Then Google screwed all of Us and now we have to update our phones (spend another cash) with the high internal storage, great.
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Then Google screwed all of Us and now we have to update our phones (spend another cash) with the high internal storage, great.
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Yep you just understand it, that's just pain in the @ss...
Hi together,
I am wondering which benefits I can expect from rooting my device.
One thing that comes to my mind is having an option to use face unlock for older unlock APIs.
What do you guys think?
Tirade incoming...
I'm probably in the minority, but I won't buy a phone I cannot root. The idea that the phone that I paid $1000 for up front is under the control of other companies seems wrong to me. I have full control over my computers... my ISP doesn't tell me what I can run on it and can't force me to use their DNS; Microsoft doesn't tell me that I'm breaking a EULA by running admin programs; my bank's website doesn't refuse to load because I'm running a lot of browser extensions that can modify the page. Google says they respect that people want control over their phones but they also say they respect app creator's wanting to run on an unmodified device. I throw those companies to the wind and don't look back. If only Google would stop blocking access to things and requiring us to use root to gain them back. They give and take features almost constantly and it often feels like a losing battle.
Ideology aside, there are so many small things that can be done through rooting. The next best alternative is either awkward or non-existent. I could name them off, but each thing on their own is easily dismissable is about preference. But if I had to use a phone that had none of my modifications/tweaks, I would be fairly unhappy. I don't think you'll understand the difference until you're actually changing your phone significantly as a whole then have to consider going back. A lot of things you won't know you even wanted until you find that they're possible... and a lot of things you'll look at and not even care about, despite them being popular to other people. That's what rooting is to me. Choices and options... in a world where Apple and even Google think that less is more.
I think if you're willing to experiment and put a significant amount of time in doing so, you should dive in and find out what you like. But if you're on the ropes about it, then you might not get into it.
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Tirade incoming...
I'm probably in the minority, but I won't buy a phone I cannot root. The idea that the phone that I paid $1000 for up front is under the control of other companies seems wrong to me. I have full control over my computers... my ISP doesn't tell me what I can run on it and can't force me to use their DNS; Microsoft doesn't tell me that I'm breaking a EULA by running admin programs; my bank's website doesn't refuse to load because I'm running a lot of browser extensions that can modify the page. Google says they respect that people want control over their phones but they also say they respect app creator's wanting to run on an unmodified device. I throw those companies to the wind and don't look back. If only Google would stop blocking access to things and requiring us to use root to gain them back. They give and take features almost constantly and it often feels like a losing battle.
Ideology aside, there are so many small things that can be done through rooting. The next best alternative is either awkward or non-existent. I could name them off, but each thing on their own is easily dismissable is about preference. But if I had to use a phone that had none of my modifications/tweaks, I would be fairly unhappy. I don't think you'll understand the difference until you're actually changing your phone significantly as a whole then have to consider going back. A lot of things you won't know you even wanted until you find that they're possible... and a lot of things you'll look at and not even care about, despite them being popular to other people. That's what rooting is to me. Choices and options... in a world where Apple and even Google think that less is more.
I think if you're willing to experiment and put a significant amount of time in doing so, you should dive in and find out what you like. But if you're on the ropes about it, then you might not get into it.
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To make that clear. I rooted every android phone I owned up to now. There has been always a thing that bothered me about the stock ROM.
But this time I feel like everything is working out of the box. (Except face unlock for ing, which sux)
I get your point and you are totally right. But I'm not sure if I want to change so much and having to update on my own and other things is to much work for me.
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To make that clear. I rooted every android phone I owned up to now. There has been always a thing that bothered me about the stock ROM.
But this time I feel like everything is working out of the box. (Except face unlock for ing, which sux)
I get your point and you are totally right. But I'm not sure if I want to change so much and having to update on my own and other things is to much work for me.
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I hear you. Rooting used to be fun and easy but it's more work than I want to deal with at this point.
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It takes me longer the download the stock image to do updates with than it takes me to re-root the phone after the update. I wonder why it seems like a lot of work to you.
PS. My broadband ISP is slow....
jljtgr said:
It takes me longer the download the stock image to do updates with than it takes me to re-root the phone after the update. I wonder why it seems like a lot of work to you.
PS. My broadband ISP is slow....
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It takes more time, which you actively have to spend. It's not like ow there is an update. Ok install done.
You have to go through all steps. You have to e.g. change settings in build.prop again. Flash kernel or what ever.
One example with rooted and problems with apps I'm always unsure if it's due to root or due to the rom. Stuff like this.
I don't have to do either of those things. My build.prop changes are systemlessly handled by a Magisk module that just works as soon as I'm rooted again. YMMV.
I've spent more time writing in this thread than my monthly process takes. If you don't have that time, then fine. You've answered your own question?
I've rooted all my devices except the pixel ones. There's absolutely no need for me to root a pixel device, everything is working as I want out of the box. That's one reason that development for the pixel 4/xl is nearly non existent.
ROOT! #1 reason Fingerface for fingerprint only APIs, other than that I agree the Pixel phones don't need any modifications. I hope the Pixel 5 will bring back the FP, face unlock sucks with a mask!
dave5777 said:
ROOT! #1 reason Fingerface for fingerprint only APIs, other than that I agree the Pixel phones don't need any modifications. I hope the Pixel 5 will bring back the FP, face unlock sucks with a mask!
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Yes this would be the only reason for me.
first reason finger face
second reason motion sense..
now on android beta 2.5 not rooted
Why choose android if you are going to use a limited system?
If i could live without root i would just go iPhone way
fuarkgl3 said:
Why choose android if you are going to use a limited system?
If i could live without root i would just go iPhone way
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Cause the limited system will do what most people need it to do
dave5777 said:
ROOT! #1 reason Fingerface for fingerprint only APIs, other than that I agree the Pixel phones don't need any modifications. I hope the Pixel 5 will bring back the FP, face unlock sucks with a mask!
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Pull it down for half a sec.
Mackay53 said:
Cause the limited system will do what most people need it to do
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Again. If you are going to use a limited system why choose android over iOS?
I don't understand your reply
fuarkgl3 said:
Again. If you are going to use a limited system why choose android over iOS?
I don't understand your reply
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Because many people like what Android has to offer over iOS, simple. Rooting isn't as useful as what it used to be
Does google pay work currently root? Magisk hide?
Or is that out of the question now...
xtravbx said:
Does google pay work currently root? Magisk hide?
Or is that out of the question now...
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From what I've been reading it's going to be hard to get Google Pay to work with root. I only use root to bring back the 2 button gesture using a Magisk module. I don't know if it's worth it anymore.
xtravbx said:
Does google pay work currently root? Magisk hide?
Or is that out of the question now...
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Google pay works right now for me and I'm rooted running 11 beta 2.5.
fr0st420 said:
From what I've been reading it's going to be hard to get Google Pay to work with root. I only use root to bring back the 2 button gesture using a Magisk module. I don't know if it's worth it anymore.
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I want to root so I can run ProtonVPN (or any VPN really) alongside Adguard. You can't run them side x side without root....
Admittedly a little sick of the whole big brother thing, so wouldn't mind obscuring my traffic a bit.
Morning all.
I'm still a noob at this but i unlocked and flash and running pixel android 12 on my Redmi note 10 pro.
I would like to know what security software or apps should i be running? Thanks Gents
Use a Vanilla ROM without Google and the PlayStore for your privacy secure. Use F-droid and Aurora Store with open source apps. Root is also a security risk.
Then use a firewall. Netguard (without root) or Afwall+ (root required). Another way is the add block app blokada. Netguard and blockada together didn't work of course they use both VPN.
A virus scanner isn't necessary. Use our brain and ublock origin add on in Firefox to surf securely.
Social_Work said:
Use a Vanilla ROM without Google and the PlayStore for your privacy secure. Use F-droid and Aurora Store with open source apps. Root is also a security risk.
Then use a firewall. Netguard (without root) or Afwall+ (root required). Another way is the add block app blokada. Netguard and blockada together didn't work of course they use both VPN.
A virus scanner isn't necessary. Use our brain and ublock origin add on in Firefox to surf securely.
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Thank you so much. 6 months i couldn't even work Microsoft accell. I have a technical mind and ADHD but i started teaching myself coding and got me an Arduino micro controller (also open source) and everything. Now my entire house is controlled by my Arduino's. So trying to still figure the phone things but yall here some little geniuses mate.
Thanks for the help
GrayishChunk said:
Thank you so much. 6 months i couldn't even work Microsoft accell. I have a technical mind and ADHD but i started teaching myself coding and got me an Arduino micro controller (also open source) and everything. Now my entire house is controlled by my Arduino's. So trying to still figure the phone things but yall here some little geniuses mate.
Thanks for the help
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The comment above yours is just the tip of the iceburg, and still has some "not perfect" suggestions. Security is not something I can explain to you in one day. The above comment:
Social_Work said:
Use a Vanilla ROM without Google and the PlayStore for your privacy
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AOSP still phones to google. To avoid that check out divestos, hardened lineage, do it manually or linux based os which is not android.
Social_Work said:
Root is also a security risk.
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This is true but the bootloader is unlocked and cant be locked with custom rom so...
Social_Work said:
Then use a firewall
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Just use firewall network wide, no need to do it on every device. You use sim card?
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Use our brain and ublock origin add on in Firefox to surf securely.
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There are better alternatives and forks of firefox.
Your original question was about security, and the comment above saying "use your brain" is mostly true, using your brain will safe you more than 90% of the time (using your brain meaning dont do or click something you don't have knowledge about. It doesn't mean you are stupid, as technology is not a general knowledge but something you have to learn if you are interested.) Just try to stick with famous foss softwares, try not to root, try to keep your phone with yourself, think hard before downloading or clicking anything. If you really want to boost your phone security, don't insert sim card, and try to stick with phone brands like pixel and flash rom like divest os. Overall android has a pretty awesome security model, you just have to take care of a few things...
Stan m said:
The comment above yours is just the tip of the iceburg, and still has some "not perfect" suggestions. Security is not something I can explain to you in one day. The above comment:
AOSP still phones to google. To avoid that check out divestos, hardened lineage, do it manually or linux based os which is not android.
This is true but the bootloader is unlocked and cant be locked with custom rom so...
Just use firewall network wide, no need to do it on every device. You use sim card?
There are better alternatives and forks of firefox.
Your original question was about security, and the comment above saying "use your brain" is mostly true, using your brain will safe you more than 90% of the time (using your brain meaning dont do or click something you don't have knowledge about. It doesn't mean you are stupid, as technology is not a general knowledge but something you have to learn if you are interested.) Just try to stick with famous foss softwares, try not to root, try to keep your phone with yourself, think hard before downloading or clicking anything. If you really want to boost your phone security, don't insert sim card, and try to stick with phone brands like pixel and flash rom like divest os. Overall android has a pretty awesome security model, you just have to take care of a few things...
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Let me start by thanking you. I don't understand everything so good and English is not my first language so simplifying it does help me so much so thank you I really appreciate it.
Thank you so much I appreciate it more than you know
Stan m said:
This is true but the bootloader is unlocked and cant be locked with custom rom so...
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My DivestOS has been tested locked on 20+ devices.
GrapheneOS and CalyxOS only support lockable devices
Just use firewall network wide
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This is silly and unattainable for most people.
There are better alternatives and forks of firefox.
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See my Android browser comparison here: https://divestos.org/index.php?page=browsers
SkewedZeppelin said:
My DivestOS has been tested locked on 20+ devices.
GrapheneOS and CalyxOS only support lockable devices
This is silly and unattainable for most people.
See my Android browser comparison here: https://divestos.org/index.php?page=browsers
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Thanks mate but i don't even know what your talking about.
I'm still pritty new in this.
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My DivestOS has been tested locked on 20+ devices.
GrapheneOS and CalyxOS only support lockable devices
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But we are talking about redmi note 10 pro, which does not allow that. That's why I mentioned to buy a phone like pixel.
SkewedZeppelin said:
This is silly and unattainable for most people.
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I think it is easier to implement it once on router than each device.
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See my Android browser comparison here: https://divestos.org/index.php?page=browsers
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I love your browser, but I disagree with your fingerprint protection column. Phones can be easily fingerprinted as they are so unique, that's why I recommended to use pc for browsing if they can. I checked mull and it did have some unique fingerprint (I dont remember much) but I think it had unique canvas.
Edit: btw do you scrap the internet for any new mentions for divest os?
Edit 2: Also tor browser for mobile does not have and support ublock origin i think.
Stan m said:
But we are talking about redmi note 10 pro, which does not allow that. That's why I mentioned to buy a phone like pixel.
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yes, then in this context, most Xiaomi devices cannot be relocked. And a Pixel is a good suggetsion.
Stan m said:
I think it is easier to implement it once on router than each device.
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And when you use cell service or go to a friends?
Stan m said:
I love your browser, but I disagree with your fingerprint protection column. Phones can be easily fingerprinted as they are so unique, that's why I recommended to use pc for browsing if they can. I checked mull and it did have some unique fingerprint (I dont remember much) but I think it had unique canvas.
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The fingerprinting protection column is rated accurately.
Most fingerprinting test websites just say "you're unique", without giving the full picture.
Firefox with resistFingerprinting (which is what Tor Browser/Librewolf/Arkenfox/Mull uses), attempts to group users into buckets of similar values.
If you check CreepJS in Mull you'll likely see a hit counter of >0, because of someone else having been registed with the same bucket.
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Edit 2: Also tor browser for mobile does not have and support ublock origin i think.
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It doesn't come with it (Mull doesn't either), but you can add it. Most will say not to add extensions to Tor Browser, but I strongly believe the benefits of uBO are worth it (faster page loads, less untrusted content).
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And when you use cell service or go to a friends?
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That's why I asked above if the op uses for example sim card. I only use my device at home and don't have any friends. But I think it is a good idea for me to add just in case. It is to combat remote access threat right? Anything else?
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It doesn't come with it (Mull doesn't either), but you can add it. Most will say not to add extensions to Tor Browser, but I strongly believe the benefits of uBO are worth it (faster page loads, less untrusted content).
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I have already added uBO on mull and it works in private mode too.
Tor browser for mobile is always on private mode (expected) and uBO add on is available, but it cannot be turned on to work in private mode, and tor is always on private mode. Am I missing something? Are you somehow able to make uBO work? If yes, I would love to know how.
Thank you!
Edit: Do you mind sharing which search engine you use? Do you have your own searx instance?
SkewedZeppelin said:
yes, then in this context, most Xiaomi devices cannot be relocked. And a Pixel is a good suggetsion.
And when you use cell service or go to a friends?
The fingerprinting protection column is rated accurately.
Most fingerprinting test websites just say "you're unique", without giving the full picture.
Firefox with resistFingerprinting (which is what Tor Browser/Librewolf/Arkenfox/Mull uses), attempts to group users into buckets of similar values.
If you check CreepJS in Mull you'll likely see a hit counter of >0, because of someone else having been registed with the same bucket.
It doesn't come with it (Mull doesn't either), but you can add it. Most will say not to add extensions to Tor Browser, but I strongly believe the benefits of uBO are worth it (faster page loads, less untrusted content).
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I don't know if you missed the notification/forgot to reply, so this is just a ping. If you didn't want to reply, then I am sorry to disturb.
Thank you!
Things like per app network control or per connection data control are nice to have and are better implemented on device than a network/router based firewall.
Stan m said:
Are you somehow able to make uBO work?
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This is a bug iirc, you can add it just tricky, don't remember how and latest version is sadly crashing due to another bug: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/fenix/-/issues/40212
Stan m said:
Edit: Do you mind sharing which search engine you use? Do you have your own searx instance?
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DuckDuckGo and Google, I don't have a searx instance.