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Lets neutralize the verizon 3G hotspot app!

Now that we have root and are happily removing bloatware, many of us are trying to find and remove that blasted 3G hotspot app that keeps coming up with whatever we choose to use!
If anyone knows how and where to find and at least freeze it, we would all be very appreciative :-D

It has something to do with the dhcpd service. I'm looking at the code to see if there's an "easy" way around it.

why don't you just follow the rules and hack the hotspot app?

LRiley said:
why don't you just follow the rules and hack the hotspot app?
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You have to be careful with that app in terms of hacking it. Rumors say that Verizon knows when you are a hacked version and you could be charged, or violate certain parts of a contract.

why don't you just follow the rules and hack the hotspot app?
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Its more cumbersome than root tasks to me

jesusishere said:
You have to be careful with that app in terms of hacking it. Rumors say that Verizon knows when you are a hacked version and you could be charged, or violate certain parts of a contract.
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I doubt that they can tell when you've hacked it without some sort of trickery that we're unaware of, but it is true that you violate part of your contract and get charged extra if they find out.

Pokelover980 said:
I doubt that they can tell when you've hacked it without some sort of trickery that we're unaware of, but it is true that you violate part of your contract and get charged extra if they find out.
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Isn't that the point of trickery? If it was trickery we were aware of, it wouldn't be trickery anymore

Maverick0984 said:
Isn't that the point of trickery? If it was trickery we were aware of, it wouldn't be trickery anymore
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I meant trickery as in some sort of magical method that can't be explained. We can be aware of it's presence, but not aware of how it works. We're not aware of either at the moment

If we hacked it but aren't using it, can verizon find out?
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I think it would be extremely difficult for then because it replaces codes so that your connected device doesn't come up as an external device but as the phone still using its data...

Is that a yes or no to my question? Lol
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jediman said:
Now that we have root and are happily removing bloatware, many of us are trying to find and remove that blasted 3G hotspot app that keeps coming up with whatever we choose to use!
If anyone knows how and where to find and at least freeze it, we would all be very appreciative :-D
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How exactly do we remove bloatware once we have achieved root? I've got root already, worked like a charm! but how do I remove this crapware?

virus5877 said:
How exactly do we remove bloatware once we have achieved root? I've got root already, worked like a charm! but how do I remove this crapware?
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Titanium Backup... buy it, FREEZE apps, do not rename, do not remove, do not uninstall... and watch what you do, several of them will cause never-ending force-closes if you're not careful.
Freezing apps removes the execute bit so the file remains, but the OS can't execute it.

^I say no
psouza4 said:
Titanium Backup... buy it, FREEZE apps, do not rename, do not remove, do not uninstall... and watch what you do, several of them will cause never-ending force-closes if you're not careful.
Freezing apps removes the execute bit so the file remains, but the OS can't execute it.
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I uninstalled apps and haven't had any problems...

LRiley said:
^I say no
I uninstalled apps and haven't had any problems...
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Yah -- some are okay to uninstall, like the obvious ones (BlockBuster, Citrix, etc.) but some will break dialer/contacts, etc. like all the authenticators.

Yeah I broke my contacts, text messaging, and calendar. But that's okay. Because I never use them, and I use handcent for texting anyways
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It's just safer to get rid of the Verizon Hotspot app. I fear that no matter what we try to do to it they can find out. Even without the app they can find out. If you have an exceptionally large amount of data usage, or a constant high data usage connection they will investigate it. They then will monitor your data usage and start to throttle you, ping you and otherwise annoy you. Verizon just disables your ability to use your data. AT&T warns you twice and then charges you.
Just keep it under 15gbs a month. I went to 18 and they throttled me.

jesusishere said:
It's just safer to get rid of the Verizon Hotspot app. I fear that no matter what we try to do to it they can find out. Even without the app they can find out. If you have an exceptionally large amount of data usage, or a constant high data usage connection they will investigate it. They then will monitor your data usage and start to throttle you, ping you and otherwise annoy you. Verizon just disables your ability to use your data. AT&T warns you twice and then charges you.
Just keep it under 15gbs a month. I went to 18 and they throttled me.
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this is a problem for you because u used 18gb of memory, which I don't understand how u do but for moderate usage its good...

royolpunk said:
Yeah I broke my contacts, text messaging, and calendar. But that's okay. Because I never use them, and I use handcent for texting anyways
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That was quick lol
/droid3

beard0 said:
That was quick lol
/droid3
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Lol. Dunno what happened
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Sprint.com Activation Warning!/Factory Data Reset!

Didn't see this anywhere, so I thought I would try and hopefully save at least one person some time/frustration. I, like many people on this site own multiple devices and swap my Sprint service back and forth between them. I normally do this through Sprint.com. I just got my GS4 and spent hours testing what launcher would be the fastest with this SOC, and setting everything up exactly the way I wanted it.(I always keep things stock for the return period so I had no real way of making a backup) After I got everything the way I wanted, I activated this beauty...but upon doing this, I didn't see the fine print that the profile update triggers a factory data wipe.. **POOF** and all my app/prefs/etc. were gone. Needless to say, I was LIVID. I waited until I was calmed down to call customer care. The rep I spoke to advised that they changed it to require a factory data wipe when switching service online and you need to call customer care to attempt a manual IMEI/DEC/HEX swap.

glassjosh said:
Didn't see this anywhere, so I thought I would try and hopefully save at least one person some time/frustration. I, like many people on this site own multiple devices and swap my Sprint service back and forth between them. I normally do this through Sprint.com. I just got my GS4 and spent hours testing what launcher would be the fastest with this SOC, and setting everything up exactly the way I wanted it.(I always keep things stock for the return period so I had no real way of making a backup) After I got everything the way I wanted, I activated this beauty...but upon doing this, I didn't see the fine print that the profile update triggers a factory data wipe.. **POOF** and all my app/prefs/etc. were gone. Needless to say, I was LIVID. I waited until I was calmed down to call customer care. The rep I spoke to advised that they changed it to require a factory data wipe when switching service online and you need to call customer care to attempt a manual IMEI/DEC/HEX swap.
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TiBu is your friend

rawintellect said:
TiBu is your friend
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Word.
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glassjosh said:
Didn't see this anywhere, so I thought I would try and hopefully save at least one person some time/frustration. I, like many people on this site own multiple devices and swap my Sprint service back and forth between them. I normally do this through Sprint.com. I just got my GS4 and spent hours testing what launcher would be the fastest with this SOC, and setting everything up exactly the way I wanted it.(I always keep things stock for the return period so I had no real way of making a backup) After I got everything the way I wanted, I activated this beauty...but upon doing this, I didn't see the fine print that the profile update triggers a factory data wipe.. **POOF** and all my app/prefs/etc. were gone. Needless to say, I was LIVID. I waited until I was calmed down to call customer care. The rep I spoke to advised that they changed it to require a factory data wipe when switching service online and you need to call customer care to attempt a manual IMEI/DEC/HEX swap.
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Had you already activated the device at least once before you attempted the online activation that resulted in the factory reset?

So I can confirm that this is indeed the desired behavior of chameleon. Whenever activation info is changed through HFA, then the device is now supposed to hard reset.
While this is certainly inconvenient if you didn't know it would happen (as us here in the store didn't know this was going to be the behavior going forward either), the reasoning behind it is sound: chameleon is put in place so that identical models of phones that are different sprint channels (sprint post paid, prepaid, boost, etc.) can run the same firmware; chameleon handles the bloatware payload for each channel. In other words, sprint no longer has to have different software packages for the same phone just because one gets sprint zone etc. and the other gets boost stuff etc.
Now, hopefully we get to a point to where chameleon is smart enough to recognize the current payload and decide whether a hard reset is necessary, but...baby steps I suppose.
EDIT: also, profile updates on their own don't require a reset. It's part of the whole HFA process that does it.
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Nope, it was a new device I wanted to set up and play with on wifi before activating it. Now I just have to call CC and have them swap the devices manually.

rawintellect said:
TiBu is your friend
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It's only your friend if you're rooted, I always keep stock FW for the return period of a device since you never know. I have always had mixed experiences with restoring app data as well.

glassjosh said:
It's only your friend if you're rooted, I always keep stock FW for the return period of a device since you never know. I have always had mixed experiences with restoring app data as well.
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I've never had ONE bad experience with TiBu. Ever. If you know what you're doing it's fine. And why wouldn't you root? You can always unroot at any given time. And yes the counter can be reset.

The debate for rooting belongs elsewhere, I'm well aware you can reset counters, unroot, however, it's not worth the time when the risk of returning is high IMHO. You don't have to know what you're doing in TiBu, that's the beauty, but you still have a better chance of stability when using new app data, and it only takes 1 bad experience with some things..

glassjosh said:
The debate for rooting belongs elsewhere, I'm well aware you can reset counters, unroot, however, it's not worth the time when the risk of returning is high IMHO. You don't have to know what you're doing in TiBu, that's the beauty, but you still have a better chance of stability when using new app data, and it only takes 1 bad experience with some things..
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LOL! You're not going to change my mind. I'm not going to change yours. I know from my own personal experience of MANY years of tinkering with android devices that you DO have to know what you're doing in TiBu or you're screwed. If you backup the wrong thing (say a system app from a different release of android) and restore it to an entirely new system you've just borked your device and are on a one way trip to bootloop city, population: YOU. And you'll have a full restore in your future.
As for "debating" on rooting? I'm not. Why even come on to XDA if you won't root? If you want stock apps stick to Google Play and sprint community forums. But don't come on to XDA and tell me or anyone else that rooting your phone is inferior to not rooting it. It just isn't. Period.
Stability is only as good as the person that coded it. That INCLUDES stock OEM ROMS or updates. I can count on two hands updates from manufacturers that have gone terribly wrong and been fixed by the devs in the XDA community LONG before they were fixed by the manufacturer. So your point about "new app data" is wrong as well.
And finally the "risk" isn't high. At all. Stop scaring folks. If your phone boots into the bootloader it's recoverable. Period. Even if it DOESN'T boot into the bootloader you can still recover it. I've had 8 HARD bricks. All of them recovered. Some even required EMMC_RECOVER to rewrite the bootloader. Don't know what that is? I'm not suprised. Let me google that for you. The WORST EVER required JTAG (again let me google that for you) to fix. But it WAS fixed.
I'm all done with this back and forth and I'll just place you on ignore and hope people see that you really have no clue what you're talking about.
Enjoy.

rawintellect said:
LOL! You're not going to change my mind. I'm not going to change yours. I know from my own personal experience of MANY years of tinkering with android devices that you DO have to know what you're doing in TiBu or you're screwed. If you backup the wrong thing (say a system app from a different release of android) and restore it to an entirely new system you've just borked your device and are on a one way trip to bootloop city, population: YOU. And you'll have a full restore in your future.
As for "debating" on rooting? I'm not. Why even come on to XDA if you won't root? If you want stock apps stick to Google Play and sprint community forums. But don't come on to XDA and tell me or anyone else that rooting your phone is inferior to not rooting it. It just isn't. Period.
Stability is only as good as the person that coded it. That INCLUDES stock OEM ROMS or updates. I can count on two hands updates from manufacturers that have gone terribly wrong and been fixed by the devs in the XDA community LONG before they were fixed by the manufacturer. So your point about "new app data" is wrong as well.
And finally the "risk" isn't high. At all. Stop scaring folks. If your phone boots into the bootloader it's recoverable. Period. Even if it DOESN'T boot into the bootloader you can still recover it. I've had 8 HARD bricks. All of them recovered. Some even required EMMC_RECOVER to rewrite the bootloader. Don't know what that is? I'm not suprised. Let me google that for you. The WORST EVER required JTAG (again let me google that for you) to fix. But it WAS fixed.
I'm all done with this back and forth and I'll just place you on ignore and hope people see that you really have no clue what you're talking about.
Enjoy.
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I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, only warn others to possibly help someone out; which is the whole purpose of this site. I certainly don't have time to troll anyone's posts. Before you get more butt-hurt, read what I said. I know from my "MANY YEARS" of android tinkering and development, that you only need time to read, not to truly know what you're doing. Apparently we have different ideas of what that means. Never did I state that rooting was inferior, that's absurd. And how would you know the risk of me returning the phone in the return period? You obviously don't read or comprehend well. As stated before, I'm well familiar with the process for tweaking android devices, especially Samsung since I have 6 of them. I'm so super impressed with your vast knowledge though..

Wow. That escalated quickly for no reason. You ignores someone for having an opinion about not rooting a phone in the first seven days of owning it. I'm sure there are plenty of people on here that don't root in that first week, that includes me as one of them.
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rawintellect said:
LOL! You're not going to change my mind. I'm not going to change yours. I know from my own personal experience of MANY years of tinkering with android devices that you DO have to know what you're doing in TiBu or you're screwed. If you backup the wrong thing (say a system app from a different release of android) and restore it to an entirely new system you've just borked your device and are on a one way trip to bootloop city, population: YOU. And you'll have a full restore in your future.
As for "debating" on rooting? I'm not. Why even come on to XDA if you won't root? If you want stock apps stick to Google Play and sprint community forums. But don't come on to XDA and tell me or anyone else that rooting your phone is inferior to not rooting it. It just isn't. Period.
Stability is only as good as the person that coded it. That INCLUDES stock OEM ROMS or updates. I can count on two hands updates from manufacturers that have gone terribly wrong and been fixed by the devs in the XDA community LONG before they were fixed by the manufacturer. So your point about "new app data" is wrong as well.
And finally the "risk" isn't high. At all. Stop scaring folks. If your phone boots into the bootloader it's recoverable. Period. Even if it DOESN'T boot into the bootloader you can still recover it. I've had 8 HARD bricks. All of them recovered. Some even required EMMC_RECOVER to rewrite the bootloader. Don't know what that is? I'm not suprised. Let me google that for you. The WORST EVER required JTAG (again let me google that for you) to fix. But it WAS fixed.
I'm all done with this back and forth and I'll just place you on ignore and hope people see that you really have no clue what you're talking about.
Enjoy.
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Please don't feed the trolls...
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[Q] So I'm rooted now..

So I'm rooted and I have SuperSU installed.
I'm not interested in flashing a custom rom just yet as I'm not having any problems with stock.
If I was to root, I was told to look for vanilla or vanilla based roms....so if anyone has suggestions there...
Anyway, I would like to remove a lot of the bloatware.
What program can I use to delete apps that I couldn't delete while non-rooted?

Titanium Backup.
Backup all the apps you delete though, because if you accidentally delete an important piece of bloatware (oxymoron), you'll want it back.

sauprankul said:
Titanium Backup.
Backup all the apps you delete though, because if you accidentally delete an important piece of bloatware (oxymoron), you'll want it back.
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Thank you.
Do we have a list of apps that are safe to remove?

Generally all Sprint labeled apps are A-OK!
Also, many are available on the play store.

If you install the MoDaCo toolkit (look in the forums for the link), there's an option called "button mod" that will let you disable all system apps. If you don't really know what you're doing, disabling is much safer than outright removing, especially if you're considering staying with stock.
There are a number of stock-based ROMs, but rooted+stock is probably a better way of getting started.

Rirere said:
If you install the MoDaCo toolkit (look in the forums for the link), there's an option called "button mod" that will let you disable all system apps. If you don't really know what you're doing, disabling is much safer than outright removing, especially if you're considering staying with stock.
There are a number of stock-based ROMs, but rooted+stock is probably a better way of getting started.
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You can disable (Freeze) apps using Titanium Backup as wells which may be easier for the OP then installing MoDaCo...

Marcm15 said:
You can disable (Freeze) apps using Titanium Backup as wells which may be easier for the OP then installing MoDaCo...
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I don't disagree, but MoDaCo is free and provides an integrated solution (the stock app manager) to just get your feet wet with what you should disable/really, really shouldn't. It's also not particularly hard; like Titanium Backup it requires two apps installed, and you check a box in one and you're done.
Not that I have anything against paying for apps. Titanium Backup is one of my most-frequently used apps, but I can also remember some major disasters I brought upon myself when I was first learning how it worked.

Rirere said:
Not that I have anything against paying for apps. Titanium Backup is one of my most-frequently used apps, but I can also remember some major disasters I brought upon myself when I was first learning how it worked.
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I think we've all had those disasters while learning:silly: I am still learning and always keep my fingers crossed whenever I try something new. I have to say that just about all my knowledge and skills have been developed here on XDA. I was a lurker for years before I actually signed up...

Marcm15 said:
I think we've all had those disasters while learning:silly: I am still learning and always keep my fingers crossed whenever I try something new. I have to say that just about all my knowledge and skills have been developed here on XDA. I was a lurker for years before I actually signed up...
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Once bitten twice shy, as they say. Or rather, I would say if I ever remembered to do nandroids...definitely agree with you regarding XDA though. It's a great source of information and fun tweaks to try.

HORRIBLE experience setting up my Nexus 5 out of the box

I'm pretty experienced with setting up Android devices, mainly because I get a new one every month or so (it's a real problem). I had the Nexus 4 and recall allowing it to restore from a backup. When I did that on the Nexus 5, it started downloading random apps from other devices that I don't even use anymore. I don't know what backup it was pulling from, but it was messy.
The worst part was, it kind of froze in the middle and refused to keep downloading apps. I cleared the cache on the Play Store app and started again. It downloaded a few apps, then quit again. I tried clearing data on Google Play, downloads, and Framework and nothing would work. When I tried to download apps manually, it would just give me an error and say it couldn't download. It wouldn't even update my existing apps.
Finally, at the recommendation of someone in Google groups, I logged out of Hangouts, then tried to log back in. It wouldn't let me log back in, even after several restarts.
Ultimately, after trying pretty much everything, I had to do a factory wipe and start over from scratch. I went through something similar (though not as bad) restoring from a backup a few months back. The moral of the story is, I will probably never restore from backup again.
After about an hour of setting up my accounts and downloading my apps manually, it's finally up and running. What a ride.

Cool story, bro.
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I'll be restoring from my TB backup.

danjbry said:
Cool story, bro.
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Thanks for your valuable input, bro. Consider yourself reported.
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marinierb said:
I'll be restoring from my TB backup.
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Yeah, I was rooted, too. I don't understand Google's backup system. It doesn't work anywhere near as well as iCloud. They really need to work on that.
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greyhulk said:
allowing it to restore from a backup. When I did that on the Nexus 5, it started downloading random apps from other devices that I don't even use anymore. I don't know what backup it was puling from, but it was messy.
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it started downloading apps i have backed up on my nexus 7, which i agree is quite annoying
while i know it's popular to complain about complainers, OP has a valid point imo. i agree that they need to get it cleaned up, or at least allow you to choice individual devices.
greyhulk said:
I don't understand Google's backup system. It doesn't work anywhere near as well as iCloud. They really need to work on that.
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+1

greyhulk said:
I'm pretty experienced with setting up Android devices, mainly because I get a new one every month or so (it's a real problem). I had the Nexus 4 and recall allowing it to restore from a backup. When I did that on the Nexus 5, it started downloading random apps from other devices that I don't even use anymore. I don't know what backup it was puling from, but it was messy.
The worst part was, it kind of froze in the middle and refused to keep downloading apps. I cleared the cache on the Play Store app and started again. It downloaded a few apps, then quit again. I tried clearing data on Google Play, downloads, and Framework and nothing would work. When I tried to download apps manually, it would just give me an error and say it couldn't download. It wouldn't even update my existing apps.
Finally, at the recommendation of someone in Google groups, I logged out of Hangouts, then tried to log back in. It wouldn't let me log back in, even after several restarts.
Ultimately, after trying pretty much everything, I had to do a factory wipe and start over from scratch. I went through something similar (though not as bad) restoring from a backup a few months back. The moral of the story is, I will probably never restore from backup again.
After about an hour of setting up my accounts and downloading my apps manually, it's finally up and running. What a ride.
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Pay a few dollars and get Titanium Backup Pro or Helium Premium. Google's backup and restore is horrendous; no one with any sense actually uses it. The paid versions of TiBu and Helium are well worth it. TiBu was my go-to for a long time, but I use Helium now. It has a much more user-friendly interface, and it doesn't require root.
greyhulk said:
Thanks for your valuable input, bro. Consider yourself reported.
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Haha you are on the Nexus 5 forum posting about something that has pretty much nothing to do with the Nexus 5 and is 100% user error. What kind of responses do you expect, especially considering the 500 worthless threads people have posted today complaining about irrelevant things. You totally brought this on yourself, and reporting someone for pointing that out is a waste of your time. Look around this forum; the mods let anything fly here.

greyhulk said:
Yeah, I was rooted, too. I don't understand Google's backup system. It doesn't work anywhere near as well as iCloud. They really need to work on that.
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I'm pretty sure that if you uninstall apps outside of the playstore, then upon a backup restore it will restore that app again. If you uninstall from the store, it won't restore it again. This is just my guess on things I think i've noticed.. I never actually tried to prove my theory right.
Basically there's no way for us to force it to sync a current setup. If you start flashing nandroids and roms will mess it up as well.

greyhulk said:
Yeah, I was rooted, too. I don't understand Google's backup system. It doesn't work anywhere near as well as iCloud. They really need to work on that.
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In the Play Store it keeps track of every app you download, if you no longer want them backed up you have to delete them from "my apps."
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Paddington said:
Pay a few dollars and get Titanium Backup Pro or Helium Premium. Google's backup and restore is horrendous; no one with any sense actually uses it. The paid versions of TiBu and Helium are well worth it. TiBu was my go-to for a long time, but I use Helium now. It has a much more user-friendly interface, and it doesn't require root.
Haha you are on the Nexus 5 forum posting about something that has pretty much nothing to do with the Nexus 5 and is 100% user error. What kind of responses do you expect, especially considering the 500 worthless threads people have posted today complaining about irrelevant things. You totally brought this on yourself, and reporting someone for pointing that out is a waste of your time. Look around this forum; the mods let anything fly here.
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How, pray tell, was a Google backup failing to restore "user error"?
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I have no science behind this statement but I've always thought that restoring TB backups to different devices was extremely risky.
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Paddington said:
Haha you are on the Nexus 5 forum posting about something that has pretty much nothing to do with the Nexus 5 and is 100% user error. What kind of responses do you expect, especially considering the 500 worthless threads people have posted today complaining about irrelevant things. You totally brought this on yourself, and reporting someone for pointing that out is a waste of your time. Look around this forum; the mods let anything fly here.
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are you kidding me? nexus 5 may not have much to do with it, but this is a very legitimate bug in the current backup/restore system google has in place. i'm sure in time further revisions with work things out, but right now it sucks.
fwiw, i have everything backed up in titanium, but i'm not rooted and i don't wanna mess around with that right now. having the ability to easily move from android to android is something that has been sorely missing for some time for the average user.
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mjs2011 said:
I have no science behind this statement but I've always thought that restoring TB backups to different devices was extremely risky.
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it can be, you're often not supposed to restore app data but...

greyhulk said:
How, pray tell, was a Google backup failing to restore "user error"?
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Because Google backup doesn't work. You said yourself you've had problems with it before. For someone "experienced in setting up Android phones," I am surprised you haven't been using TiBu/Helium all along. Trust me, it's well worth spending the few dollars if you switch phones or ROMs more than once a year. Relying on Google backup to restore anything more than your contacts is user error.

Paddington said:
Because Google backup doesn't work. You said yourself you've had problems with it before. For someone "experienced in setting up Android phones," I am surprised you haven't been using TiBu/Helium all along. Trust me, it's well worth spending the few dollars if you switch phones or ROMs more than once a year. Relying on Google backup to restore anything more than your contacts is user error.
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system error brah

Paddington said:
Haha you are on the Nexus 5 forum posting about something that has pretty much nothing to do with the Nexus 5 and is 100% user error. What kind of responses do you expect, especially considering the 500 worthless threads people have posted today complaining about irrelevant things. You totally brought this on yourself, and reporting someone for pointing that out is a waste of your time. Look around this forum; the mods let anything fly here.
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It is not that we let anything fly here, it is just that with around 90 device forums to monitor we are spread around.
Feel free to use the report button when you see something that should not "FLY"
the information has been given,
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[Q] what is the best free backup programme to use?

Hi guys, i wanna perform a downgrade back to jellybean because kit kat really gets on my nerves for multiple reasons..
The reason i have not done this yet is purely because i dont want to lose anything i have on my phone, basically I'm looking for a backup programme which backs up absolutely everything i have on my internal storage, including 3rd party apps I've installed and set up, downloaded videos which are stored within apps and everything else pretty much THEN once I have performed the downgrade, to be able to just restore the backup and have my phone identical to how it is now only with jellybean instead of kitkat. Is this possible? Cheers in advance.

Titanium Backup is Good but sometimes gives errors.. I personally use Super Backup Pro it never fails very good for App and other items backup and restore
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For apps titanium for pics, mega, 50GB for free, never runs out like dropbox will.
If you're going to get titanium, pay for the pro version, you'll thank me later when you're restoring your apps.

Ok cheers guys, i will look into them all.

originaltanksta said:
Ok cheers guys, i will look into them all.
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NP m8.
PS: Spotted you without a thanks, put one on there for ya

dladz said:
If you're going to get titanium, pay for the pro version, you'll thank me later when you're restoring your apps.
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This! Especially when switching ROMs often, you will find the added features from the pro version helpful.
I was greatful for being able to restore the device ID so apps would just work like before.

elFlexor said:
This! Especially when switching ROMs often, you will find the added features from the pro version helpful.
I was greatful for being able to restore the device ID so apps would just work like before.
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Very true, using the non pro version will work but it's a mundane task to have to allow and then install each and every app one after another, very useful if you plan on testing different roms with your apps, the automated process is so much quicker and it'll save you time.
Half way through installing 300+ apps you'll be thinking of that pro key.
Plus the do deserve your cash, amazing app titanium.

When looking into these backup apps including titanium it says I need to be rooted to use the features i want. I'm not rooted and dont really plan to be. It's a shame really because i moved over to android so i had more freedom and control over my device and at first I had as much control as i needed with jellybean (more is better obviously) but the kitkat update pretty much made every sd enabled phone into a poor device. Plus I find the wifi range is really bad on kitkat but jellybean had so much better range. My point is that it's annoying that i should have to root my phone to make it as i want it and be able to toy with the settings when really it should already either have these features or be better optimised. Now I'm wondering if i should just root my phone rather than downgrading it? If i root it can i tweak the wifi range? And can I allow my apps to have better access to my sd card? Also if i upgrade to 4.4.4 can i still root the phone after? Cheers

If you root, it is easier to do on 4.4.4, and you can fix the sd card issue.
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Fantastic help from you guys, much appreciated. It's good to actually be on a forum without morons! Lol
Ok so im now possibly leaning toward the rooting route.. Would you advise getting it done by someone in a shop or doing it myself? I'm pretty competent but if it's a risky process then I'd rather it be done properly! Are there any good tutorials for rooting from 4.4.4? Also does rooting wipe the phone memory? Cheers
And any app recommendations for rooted phones that allow me to sort out the sd access problems, also apps that allow me to tinker with my wifi range etc.. Just any good full customisation apps really so i can really get this phone as it should be!

Follow my signature, its a one click solution and takes about 30 seconds

gregbradley said:
Follow my signature, its a one click solution and takes about 30 seconds
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Cheers pal

Ok so just to be sure.. My phone is totally standard running standard 4.4.4, all I have to do is download and run the tool and my phone is rooted? I don't have to make any mods to my phone first to prepare for it?
I only ask because people mention locked and unlocked boot loaders, i dont know what they are! Or the difference between them.
Sorry for being a pain!

No, just download newroot, run it, then you are rooted and have recovery.
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gregbradley said:
Follow my signature, its a one click solution and takes about 30 seconds
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You sir, are a life saver, I've been deciding to go root my device but ha Ave yet to have a one stop shop to cover all what is necessary. Cheers mate!
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