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I got a HTC Hero CDMA (I Guess It's CDMA It's from Sprint), just a few days ago, and I was interested in how to root it & What the root does and how i can benefit if you will from having this phone rooted. Any help would be much helpful. Thank you
-Steven
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Damn I saw your name and I thought that you were posting the answer
Sorry For Posting in the wrong forum. I'm totally New to these types of phones. Any help would be much Appreciated
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Sorry For Posting in the wrong forum. I'm totally New to these types of phones. Any help would be much Appreciated
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Only the 1.5 can be rooted right now. There is a thread in the developers forum that they are using to post their results. I'm sure that when they root it they'll post in there or start a whole new thread.
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I got a HTC Hero CDMA (I Guess It's CDMA It's from Sprint), just a few days ago, and I was interested in how to root it & What the root does and how i can benefit if you will from having this phone rooted. Any help would be much helpful. Thank you
-Steven
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Here are a couple of links that may help you out
http://lifehacker.com/5342237/five-great-reasons-to-root-your-android-phone
http://androidsocialmedia.com/developments/why-should-i-root-my-android-phone
If you were lucky enough for them to have given you a hero with 1.5 on it still, you will be able to root it now, so check your software version. Rooting gives you several advantages:
1) You don't have to wait for Sprint to get off it's a$$ to fix a bug.
2) Almost every ROM has been stripped of Sprint's bloatware.
3) Apps 2 SD is a big +. You can have a lot more apps because you are no longer limited by the internal memory of the phone.
4) Wireless tether.
5) Easy backup/restore.
The biggest advantage that is a combination of multiple things above is how fast your phone will be. Now, to be fair I will warn you of some disadvantages:
1) For the most part, you are on your own. People in the community will try to help all they can, but for the most part you need to be able to troubleshoot.
2) Technically, it does void your warranty and is not condoned by Sprint. That being said, if you have insurance you can always just pay $100 and get a new phone no matter what.
3) The reason phone manufacturers do not give you root to begin with is that you can do a lot of damage and really screw your phone up. For almost all things there is a simple fix of just restoring to a backup, except for one case: if you flash a bad radio.
lineman78 said:
If you were lucky enough for them to have given you a hero with 1.5 on it still, you will be able to root it now, so check your software version. Rooting gives you several advantages:
1) You don't have to wait for Sprint to get off it's a$$ to fix a bug.
2) Almost every ROM has been stripped of Sprint's bloatware.
3) Apps 2 SD is a big +. You can have a lot more apps because you are no longer limited by the internal memory of the phone.
4) Wireless tether.
5) Easy backup/restore.
The biggest advantage that is a combination of multiple things above is how fast your phone will be. Now, to be fair I will warn you of some disadvantages:
1) For the most part, you are on your own. People in the community will try to help all they can, but for the most part you need to be able to troubleshoot.
2) Technically, it does void your warranty and is not condoned by Sprint. That being said, if you have insurance you can always just pay $100 and get a new phone no matter what.
3) The reason phone manufacturers do not give you root to begin with is that you can do a lot of damage and really screw your phone up. For almost all things there is a simple fix of just restoring to a backup, except for one case: if you flash a bad radio.
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Well said...You also forgot...
customization customization customization, oh yeah plus mods and overclock.
Check out this link to see some of the ways you can make your phone look and feel at your leasure. You can use the different themes that have been created or create one ur self once u learn the basics.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668887
So how did it turn out/
I sadly upgraded my phone to 2.1 before I knew you can't root it.. now o guess I will just have to wait until the root comes out de 2.1
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Root for 2.1 was successly acheived yesterday go and enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
Just do not do the OTA (over the air) update being sent out today as it fixes the root exploit....
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I sadly upgraded my phone to 2.1 before I knew you can't root it.. now o guess I will just have to wait until the root comes out de 2.1
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Your wait is over then, because yesterday they finally got Root on this bad boy. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
EDIT- The guy above me beat me to it. Sorry for the double info.
I got a note7000 offer at a bargain price; half the price of the original... the idea is that the guy is selling it as fault emmc bug. He told me that wiping the data - factory reset caused the problem.
The phone works from times to times he said, is still partially functional, thus he still asks for the price of SII for it, which he wants to replace with.
My question is:
Is the emmc bug permanent? I want to buy it cause is such a awesome screen\phone and i cant afford one from retails at full price. My plan is to downgrade from ics to gb with safe kernels and hope it wont brick with odin as unsafe as it is already.
Don't buy it. He is selling a bricked device for half the price (I wouldn't pay that for a used but fully functional right now).
And you will always get problems with it in many different situations.
Its risky for me, but also rewarding. If you'd seen this particular phone, is almost brand new. He told me it wasn't used much and that is visible on the over all aspect. And god, i love amoled screens, even if pentile is infamous.
Could you describe what you mean by being bricked? -> the phone boots and installs stuffs, but from time to times has the flaw of getting stuck -> require reset.
Its on the way
ps. I trust that if i had this stuff happen to me, coming from a samsung product, i would be able to get it fixed somehow.
Congrats: you just bought a bricked device. I guess he used the repartition workaround which reduces available capacity.
He didn't do the only real fix: replace motherboard in Samsung Service Center.
If you read here more before buying you would understand my "do not buy". Now you will learn later.
And he didn't lie to you - he told everything about the condition.
If you want to learn now while waiting for it, start to read about bricked devices here, about hg42's repartition thread etc. You might need it
Well, wish me luck. I'm gonna follow the steps from around the topics here.
I just hope i can watch movies, and pictures, and browse the mail... then he can get stuck but just a little.
I got an ace on my sleeves though. I can test it before i buy it... any advices, maybe doesn't even have the bug, how i notice
that ?
I'm gonna try these steps on the clip from rootgalaxynote:
youtube - hDtTNDVcTF4
If it doesn't work, i'm screwed cause i do not have a replace phone atm.
Following those steps will only mean that you won't brick it again... and anyway that is really outdated... When you've had enough of constant freezes then you will probably want to try a slim rom such as Slim Bean 4.2.2
I just purchased a n7000 from a guy on eBay for $350.00. It has the Ultimate rom installed in the screenshots. This means that it should be fine, right? I should receive it this week sometime. I bricked my i9100 back when the brick bug first appeared so I'm kind of worried about this.
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Thanks for replies. I dunno what to expect. It is worrying, but probably i'll return it back cause is not worth the money if you put it this way "unusable".
He said to me to add a new sd card,,, i guess here is where he was just too honest. This confirms that there is actually a permanent damage to the hardware, especially the hefty 16 GB of memory.
My friend has the bug and he did the workaround , The phone freezes when you turn on bluetooth or wifi , And also the internal memory is low , but good luck with your's btw "restarting it from time to time" seems suspicious though
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KayKrate said:
My friend has the bug and he did the workaround , The phone freezes when you turn on bluetooth or wifi , And also the internal memory is low , but good luck with your's btw "restarting it from time to time" seems suspicious though
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Apparently that was a slight misleading. On itself doesn't restart. I got the phone right now. Is so huge even an elephant could use it.
Only freezes when i try write something thru usb cable. The ram is smaller, only 5 gb.
neier24 said:
Apparently that was a slight misleading. On itself doesn't restart. I got the phone right now. Is so huge even an elephant could use it.
Only freezes when i try write something thru usb cable. The ram is smaller, only 5 gb.
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Really? Then it might be double-bricked and double "workarounded". Each time lossing about 3 GB...
When I close my eyes I see the grinning of this a--h-le who sold it for real money.
That sucks...
Now I want to see if is only a memory problem of the storage sd, or is as well as for the last 'bastion' of my phone, 2GB rom... cause then i can install slimbean like i've been adviced here.
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That sucks...
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Why? You knew from the first day about the condition and bought it nevertheless.
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Why? You knew from the first day about the condition and bought it nevertheless.
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First off, i'm in a bit of trouble right now. As you can guess, i can do something about it, cause beyond this is the morality of getting into a mess on someone's fault. Now that has to be decided, as long as is not mine.
This guy told me it is partially usable, add a card, try fix it yourself. At 190$ i expect to be better then a S1 or nexus s which might easly outmatch this phone. If is a matter of pride. Just keep it to yourself.
Either i give this guy a bad review as is a site as amazon, where user feedback is noted, or i return it back myself. Is not the holly grail, is just a phone.
He told me is not permanent damage.
LE: I got some good news and bad new:
I cannot add videos, it simply doesn't write. It doesn't freeze my phone anymore, this time i'm using samsung kies. Good news, i can write photos and songs.
I'm half way there in trusting this guy that with a sd card, the phone will work just okay in installing stuff.
On the other hand, i dunno if the internal storage is damaged; can i install jelly bean? or change the culprit kernel? or should i live with it as it is.
the seller has a no return policy. so ur actually screwed. you think the seller is a noob and that he didnt know about the fix. sometimes being too wise makes u feel and idiot in the end.
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Do you guys want to help, or keep ranting?
qazibasit learn some english.
How i change camera setting to save all its files on external microsd card?
neier24 said:
Do you guys want to help, or keep ranting?
qazibasit learn some english.
How i change camera setting to save all its files on external microsd card?
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And now you are starting to get arrogant?
Even if I do not always follow qazis messages I do understand him very well - because Oxford english isn't a prerequisite here.
Members here can't help you: Why? Because you bought a brick device even when warned about it.
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And now you are starting to get arrogant?
Even if I do not always follow qazis messages I do understand him very well - because Oxford english isn't a prerequisite here.
Members here can't help you: Why? Because you bought a brick device even when warned about it.
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How was his random ranting relevant to this topic?
So what do you think... flashing a new kernel and formating the sdcard do any good?
I may have a different term for bricking: When used in reference to consumer electronics, a "brick" describes an electronic device such as a smart phone, game console, router, or tablet computer that owing to a serious misconfiguration, corrupted firmware or a hardware problem, can no longer function. The term derives from the vaguely cuboid shape of many electronic devices (and their detachable power supplies) and the suggestion that the device can only function as a large, heavy object.
As far as i see, this device has stuff installed on it, and i can't figure how he did it.
recommend me a memory error checking app if u know, please!
Flash a safe kernel and flash a new ROM.. Try that and if all works good we´ll continue..
OK, I'm going to start by saying I know pretty much nothing about rooting and I may come across as a paranoid conspiracy nut, but here goes.
I recently bought a Note 3 on Swappa. In the description, the seller said that he had removed all of the AT&T Bloatware, but the phone was not rooted. He also stated that a system reset would restore the AT&T apps. Well, the first thing I did was a system restore, but the AT&T apps were still gone. Not that I care about the apps really, but it seemed weird.
Today, I downloaded the "Root Checker" app on the Play Store and it told me that my phone was, in fact, rooted. I also downloaded SuperU and it verified that as well. I've also gotten Titanium Backup (Root) and it shows I'm rooted.
I posted a message on my sale page at Swappa mentioning this, but the seller is adamantly denying that the phone is rooted. He says they use their "own process" to remove the bloatware.
My question in all of this is is this: Is this something I should be concerned about? The seller seems less than honest about the phone being rooted. He is a "trusted seller" which is one reason I bought from him, but I'm super paranoid that there might be something on my phone that I'm unaware of. (a keylogging app, etc...) Is there any way to tell this? How do I go about truly returning my phone back to its original state? I system reset didn't unroot it.
Any advice from people out there much more knowledgeable than me about this?
EDIT: well, I took andygev35's advice and restored back to factory. However, I enjoyed playing around with the things that being rooted allowed, so I re-did it. A huge waste of time? Maybe, but at least I have some peace of mind over the whole thing now. Thanks to everyone!
If you're worried about anything unsavory that may be hidden on your phone, you could always restore back to factory condition using the guide and files in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2838117
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If you're worried about anything unsavory that may be hidden on your phone, you could always restore back to factory condition using the guide and files in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2838117
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Thanks, and holy crap - just glancing at that it looks like a total pain in the ass. This is why I never bothered to root in the first place. Do you think I'm being too paranoid? Or is is worth doing all this?
It's actually quite simple. I know it may look overwhelming at first glance, but there's really nothing to it. Basically the easiest method is to use the all-in-one file. Just download that, put your phone in download mode, plug it into your computer, run the Odin program, place the all-in-one file in the AP slot in Odin and click start.
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It's actually quite simple. I know it may look overwhelming at first glance, but there's really nothing to it. Basically the easiest method is to use the all-in-one file. Just download that, put your phone in download mode, plug it into your computer, run the Odin program, place the all-in-one file in the AP slot in Odin and click start.
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OK. I may do this when I get home. Thanks.
Honestly though I do feel you're probably worrying over nothing.. But I'd go back to stock so you can obtain updates if you desire
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Honestly though I do feel you're probably worrying over nothing.. But I'd go back to stock so you can obtain updates if you desire
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I agree it's probably nothing to worry about, but if he's anything like me, any doubt I have will always be there somewhere in the back of my mind nagging at me [emoji15]. Restoring wipes out any of that doubt.
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Don't Worry, Be Happy
Why wouldn't anyone want access to the root files in THEIR phone ???
You have root access to your PC or Mac, why would anyone want a provider to lock down their phone making things inaccessible.
You're not renting the phone, it's Yours (always try and have root access if possible).
google up moborobo and download it, its free and gives u full access to your phone, please download it and check it out -
You will love all the stuff you can do with a rooted N3 -
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I agree it's probably nothing to worry about, but if he's anything like me, any doubt I have will always be there somewhere in the back of my mind nagging at me [emoji15]. Restoring wipes out any of that doubt.
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I guess what bugs me the most is that the seller INSISTS that it wasn't rooted, when it clearly is. Its a "methinks he doth protest too much" situation. If he just owned up to it, I'd be less paranoid. If he can't be honest about the obvious, it makes me worry about the less obvious.
I've learned a little, and I'm kind of digging some of the options available now that I know its rooted. Considering spending this Saturday to restoring it back to "normal" and then maybe re-rooting it to have some of the things that I now realize I kind of want. I'm kind of worried I'm going to funk it up though... Jailbreaking seemed to be a much easier process, and harder to screw up.
Since we now have nc2 Odin files you are relatively safe in doing a restore.
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I guess what bugs me the most is that the seller INSISTS that it wasn't rooted, when it clearly is. Its a "methinks he doth protest too much" situation. If he just owned up to it, I'd be less paranoid. If he can't be honest about the obvious, it makes me worry about the less obvious.
I've learned a little, and I'm kind of digging some of the options available now that I know its rooted. Considering spending this Saturday to restoring it back to "normal" and then maybe re-rooting it to have some of the things that I now realize I kind of want. I'm kind of worried I'm going to funk it up though... Jailbreaking seemed to be a much easier process, and harder to screw up.
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I too am a former Jailbreaker and am so glad I jumped the fence out of Apple's walled garden. I do have to say, at least Apple readily provides the latest firmware for their devices. I can't understand why AT&T won't let Sammy publish our Odin files. As @mrkhigh stated, we DO now have the Odin files (probably gained in some nefarious manner by a sympathizing Best Buy employee), so now you can safely let the experimenting begin without worry.
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I'm curious to find out if it is actually a clone... The HDC Galaxy Note 3 is a damn good clone of the real thing and it ships rooted. They are pretty cheap and can fool almost anyone... If it is a clone, he might have been selling it to make more than he spent and didn't know it's rooted.
If it's not, it is possible that he either bought it from someone else and didn't know that it is rooted, or it is a stolen device.
I would call AT&T and give them the IMEI number to check that. Do not mention root or anything like that, just ask them to check it to see if it's flagged.
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I'm curious to find out if it is actually a clone... The HDC Galaxy Note 3 is a damn good clone of the real thing and it ships rooted. They are pretty cheap and can fool almost anyone... If it is a clone, he might have been selling it to make more than he spent and didn't know it's rooted.
If it's not, it is possible that he either bought it from someone else and didn't know that it is rooted, or it is a stolen device.
I would call AT&T and give them the IMEI number to check that. Do not mention root or anything like that, just ask them to check it to see if it's flagged.
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Pretty sure it's a real AT&T - I took it to the store and had them check the IMHO when I had it activated. I finally just uprooted and flashed the 4.4.2 stock on it (I'm learning the terminology here so hope that's right) from the first post.
The guy is a trusted seller and has sold tons of phones in Swappa. He advertises on all the Samsung at&t phones that he removes the bloatware but does NOT root the phone. But, it was.
In the end, I'm happy with the phone. Seller was less than honest about his process and hopefully he didn't steal all my bank info, haha, but the phone works great.
You have to root to remove all bloatware...
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Good to know though. *cheers*
Yeah, I asked him about that and he said they "have their own process to remove bloatware" that does not require root".
Like I said, he was a little squirrely about it.
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Yeah, I asked him about that and he said they "have their own process to remove bloatware" that does not require root".
Like I said, he was a little squirrely about it.
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Im sure its probably because he sells a lot of devices and didn't realize the one he sold had root.
Then when he talked to u he realized that u r uneducated about the subject so he thought he would bs u.
Of course one would have to have root access to remove root files.
I still don't understand why ur making such a big fuss?
If u don't feel like u lucked out, (like the rest of us do) just send the flipping thing back!
Did you download free moborobo?
Before he downloads that app... Excuse me... Complete PC suite.
Why do you think he needs it? I haven't seen anything on XDA about it, other than from you. And most everything I find on google/YouTube is Arabic, Chinese and Japanese.
It seems you are trying to advert it to new users that are unknowing and willing to take advice from most anyone.
I can give 2 things right now that are the same thing and one of them does not require a full PC suite.
Oh... And they are well known on XDA to be safe to use.
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Before he downloads that app... Excuse me... Complete PC suite.
Why do you think he needs it? I haven't seen anything on XDA about it, other than from you. And most everything I find on google/YouTube is Arabic, Chinese and Japanese.
It seems you are trying to advert it to new users that are unknowing and willing to take advice from most anyone.
I can give 2 things right now that are the same thing and one of them does not require a full PC suite.
Oh... And they are well known on XDA to be safe to use.
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Yeah, you're right. I looked at it but it seems to be completely unnecessary.
Just a general reminder, use of unknown applications can be dangerous. Please use caution in downloading, using or recommending anything you don't know to be safe.
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Just a general reminder, use of unknown applications can be dangerous. Please use caution in downloading, using or recommending anything you don't know to be safe.
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Excuse me but this is not an unknown app, it has been around for years and works wonderfully !!!
I have been using it since I got my N3 at thanksgiving and it works great, installs downloaded apk files in a snap, allows you easy navigation to your entire phone.Doesn't spam you. It just works great. I'm only recommending it because I have USED it for 9 months, (and you guys can't even google it?)
Since when do mods and forum gurus recommend staying away from something they have never used it, or even spent 10 secs researching ????
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=moborobo+review
I was only trying to help OP out. it is a great and FREE app for rooted devices, sorry for wasting ur time OP -
(ps - I found the software while trying to transfer my contacts and sms messages from my 4s to N3, which worked perfectly and easily, (after trying other stuff). It was after that I discovered how nice it manages everything)
I have looked over several pages and have not come across anything with good solid information or facts. I have a ATT S5 G870A (S5 Active). It has Android 5.0 on it. I have several questions actually.
1. Can you root this device on 5.0? I cant find anything on an active version. If so, can you point me to some good simplified layman terms instructions?
2. If not, how do I downgrade it.
After getting to a state where it is possible to root it. What do i need to complete that task? I am looking at getting Twisted Lolipop ROM on this device (IF IT IS POSSIBLE). That is the goal anyway. For some reason that ROM sticks out to me after reading about all of them. galaxys5root.com/sm-g900f-galaxy-s5-custom-roms/twi5ted-lollipop-rom-for-galaxy-s5/[/url]
I have watched the video on that site and it doesn't give out hardly any information. I am not even 100% sure it will work on an active on ATT. I dont want to trust some kid on youtube trying to tell me how to flash my phone without knowing if it is correct or not.
I am terribly sorry in advance if it has been asked before, but there are several discussions here, and lots have been updated somewhere in the hundreds of pages of information contained within them.
Thank you in advance,
Josh.
If u have bootloader 0c5 u can down grade then root the active.
If u have bootloader 0f2, 0f3 no u can not. There's no root for those yet.
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I assume it's the last 3 of the loader #'s. ? Mine says 0f3 . That stinks. Phone is a year old and still can't root it. I'll get a new phone before a root comes out...lol. Thanks for any information, or if there is another way I'd surely appreciate it. Got a super nice phone and its slower than christmas. Too much junk and fluffy stuff installed from factory I guess.
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I assume it's the last 3 of the loader #'s. ? Mine says 0f3 . That stinks. Phone is a year old and still can't root it. I'll get a new phone before a root comes out...lol. Thanks for any information, or if there is another way I'd surely appreciate it. Got a super nice phone and its slower than christmas. Too much junk and fluffy stuff installed from factory I guess.
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Since u can't root get. Package Disabler Pro. No root need to freeze are remove any apps.
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Thank you. Is there a good way to back up the entire phone that is pretty easy in case I disable something that shouldn't be? I enabled the system processes in developing menu and thy wrestling are a lot of things running and lots of red at the top (assuming that is for the processors). And I don't have a whole phone full of games installed. Facebook, messenger, snap chat, a weather app. Then a few other random apps like a steak n shake app. No games at all.
So I dropped my Galaxy S4 and destroyed the display, rendering it useless. Then I ordered a Nexus 6 and its amazing! I love it. I had rooted my S4 successfully and I had some root apps running, which I came to love and now I'm having trouble to live without them.
I want to root my Nexus 6, but my mom won't let me. She says she wants to learn more about the risks.
I don't understand her reasoning because rooting a Samsung on Verizon is extremely tricky compared to a Nexus, and I was able to do that without any problems. From what I can tell the risk is very low for a Nexus, and it's hard to completely brick as long as you don't go flashing the wrong stuff and I probably won't go flashing anything fancy until there are some more ROMs for Marshmallow. And if I ever do physically break it, its really easy to go back to stock and make it like it was never even messed with. I've tried to tell her this but she won't listen.
If anyone has a minute, can someone confirm and possibly reinforce my statement? I'd love to root this baby in the next few days. Thanks!
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So I dropped my Galaxy S4 and destroyed the display, rendering it useless. Then I ordered a Nexus 6 and its amazing! I love it. I had rooted my S4 successfully and I had some root apps running, which I came to love and now I'm having trouble to live without them.
I want to root my Nexus 6, but my mom won't let me. She says she wants to learn more about the risks.
I don't understand her reasoning because rooting a Samsung on Verizon is extremely tricky compared to a Nexus, and I was able to do that without any problems. From what I can tell the risk is very low for a Nexus, and it's hard to completely brick as long as you don't go flashing the wrong stuff and I probably won't go flashing anything fancy until there are some more ROMs for Marshmallow. And if I ever do physically break it, its really easy to go back to stock and make it like it was never even messed with. I've tried to tell her this but she won't listen.
If anyone has a minute, can someone confirm and possibly reinforce my statement? I'd love to root this baby in the next few days. Thanks!
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Tell her that you won't use a phone with restrictions. Give the phone back. Be strong, don't complain. Just leave the phone alone.
zfrnz said:
So I dropped my Galaxy S4 and destroyed the display, rendering it useless. Then I ordered a Nexus 6 and its amazing! I love it. I had rooted my S4 successfully and I had some root apps running, which I came to love and now I'm having trouble to live without them.
I want to root my Nexus 6, but my mom won't let me. She says she wants to learn more about the risks.
I don't understand her reasoning because rooting a Samsung on Verizon is extremely tricky compared to a Nexus, and I was able to do that without any problems. From what I can tell the risk is very low for a Nexus, and it's hard to completely brick as long as you don't go flashing the wrong stuff and I probably won't go flashing anything fancy until there are some more ROMs for Marshmallow. And if I ever do physically break it, its really easy to go back to stock and make it like it was never even messed with. I've tried to tell her this but she won't listen.
If anyone has a minute, can someone confirm and possibly reinforce my statement? I'd love to root this baby in the next few days. Thanks!
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Just tell her your grandma`s phone is rooted too
NLBeev said:
Tell her that you won't use a phone with restrictions. Give the phone back. Be strong, don't complain. Just leave the phone alone.
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If I did that then she would get pissed and just take the phone away... Stock is better than no phone at all. If I give her some evidence then that would most likely do the trick. I've learned that if I go about things in smart ways and don't get angry, I get what I want more often. Thanks though
gee2012 said:
Just tell her your grandma`s phone is rooted too
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Lol... My grandfather's phone actually is rooted. He's got sprint though and they're better when it comes to fixing rooting.
Your mother is just being cautious. Yeah, the chances of brick on nexus phones are slim, but that depends on how much you know about rooting and such; or how well you can follow instructions to the letter. And, like any other phone, Nexus' can be very expensive to fix if damaged too much (hard brick). Especially with the Marshmallow update, anything can go wrong. If you're confident in what you're doing, go for it. Otherwise, listen to your mother.
zfrnz said:
If I did that then she would get pissed and just take the phone away... Stock is better than no phone at all. If I give her some evidence then that would most likely do the trick. I've learned that if I go about things in smart ways and don't get angry, I get what I want more often. Thanks though
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No, be consequent, the phone is yours or not. You can not change the idea that there risks. Because there is a risk.
You could change the strategy. The risk is not the rooting process. The risk is the person that roots the phone. Show/tell her that you know all the howto's. You must give the impression you are an expert.
toledodj said:
Your mother is just being cautious. Yeah, the chances of brick on nexus phones are slim, but that depends on how much you know about rooting and such; or how well you can follow instructions to the letter. And, like any other phone, Nexus' can be very expensive to fix if damaged too much (hard brick). Especially with the Marshmallow update, anything can go wrong. If you're confident in what you're doing, go for it. Otherwise, listen to your mother.
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Yeah but compared to rooting an S4 a nexus is not risky at all... And wugfresh toolkit works on Marshmallow so that makes it even easier
zfrnz said:
Yeah but compared to rooting an S4 a nexus is not risky at all... And wugfresh toolkit works on Marshmallow so that makes it even easier
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I didn't know the toolkit could now root Marshmallow. I could've sworn using it would brick the phone. If the root toolkit can do it, by all means go for it
toledodj said:
I didn't know the toolkit could now root Marshmallow. I could've sworn using it would brick the phone. If the root toolkit can do it, by all means go for it
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This page has mixed answers... One guy said it worked but another got bootloop. But a boot loop is easy to get out of and that seems like the worst thing that happened
zfrnz said:
Yeah but compared to rooting an S4 a nexus is not risky at all... And wugfresh toolkit works on Marshmallow so that makes it even easier
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Last remark. Arguments won't change the idea's of your mother. Tell her you should be very happy when your phone is rooted. Because of the customizing possibilities, like the use of layers.
Happiness is a state of mind and you will remember many many years later the fun of using a smartphone that was rooted. Thanks to your mother.
first off, it is EASY to brick a nexus, especially if you go the toolkit route. why? because when you use a toolkit you never learn how to do anything, like fixing your device, or how to actually root properly. that said, if you do decide to go that way, ill expect to see a thread titled.. "my mom was right about me bricking my n6".
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This page has mixed answers... But a boot loop is easy to get out of and that seems like the worst thing that happened
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Still a hassle though. Luckily, I've never heard of anyone hard-bricking a nexus
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simms22 said:
first off, it is EASY to brick a nexus, especially if you go the toolkit route. why? because when you use a toolkit you never learn how to do anything, like fixing your device, or how to actually root properly. that said, if you do decide to go that way, ill expect to see a thread titled.. "my mom was right about me bricking my n6".
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In that case, it's always wise to learn both methods. From my experience, as long as you unlock the bootloader and enable USB debugging, the root kit is foolproof
It's possible her concern isn't about bricking but data security risks?
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Still a hassle though. Luckily, I've never heard of anyone hard-bricking a nexus
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In that case, it's always wise to learn both methods. From my experience, as long as you unlock the bootloader and enable USB debugging, the root kit is foolproof
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both methods? theres is only one right method, pressing a button isnt a method. but, once you learn the proper method, feel free to use a toolkit. the problem is that a lot of newbies use toolkits, then run into easily fixable problems that they cant solve.
and it appears that you dont read much, as very many have bricked their nexus. most common way recently is by running into a bootloop without having your bootloader unlocked nor the option to unlock it enabled. thats a 100% brick, and its happened to very many people.
Not that I'm condoning defying your mom's explicit wishes, but she's not even going to know if you root it. Better to ask forgiveness after than permission before...
If you learn to do everything manually and not use a toolkit then it is quite hard to brick a Nexus device. BUT, I've not rooted my last two (N5 and this N6) as there's no point these days.
Bricking will occur if you try and take a short cut or don't follow instructions.
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both methods? theres is only one right method, pressing a button isnt a method. but, once you learn the proper method, feel free to use a toolkit. the problem is that a lot of newbies use toolkits, then run into easily fixable problems that they cant solve.
and it appears that you dont read much, as very many have bricked their nexus. most common way recently is by running into a bootloop without having your bootloader unlocked nor the option to unlock it enabled. thats a 100% brick, and its happened to very many people.
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I mentioned unlocking the bootloader and enabling USB debugging when using the root kit
toledodj said:
I mentioned unlocking the bootloader and enabling USB debugging when using the root kit
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id even unlock my bootloader even if i never rooted.
simms22 said:
id even unlock my bootloader even if i never rooted.
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Mine is always unlocked also