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The HTC Touch Diamond is a piece of **** for what you pay for.
I paid almost 800$ for a great phone that I expected a lot out of, what did I get? A phone that worked for 20 days and then ****ed up. The entire phone just does not connect when it is not plugged into the wall outlet, and I've used another battery and it still does the same thing, it's a piece of ****.
For the past month I've been trying to get the damn thing to work, I've treated it like a diamond because I've paid as much as I would.
It was awesome for the first 20 days, but now it's useless unless connected to an adapter. Amazing. Mobilecityonline the guys i bought it from are willing to repair it on warranty but it will take 4-6weeks, THATS MORE THAN A MONTH.
I'm ending with my illusion of WM powered phones, goin to the iphone which has basically the same features, not all the looks but god damnit, the tech support is great, and the phone does not lag, and you don't need to cook roms to get the damn thing to work faster.
This is my rant, and anyone else in California who has a working HTC Touch Diamond, good luck keeping it running.
So it was awesome until it broke? Why not just get it repaired then?
Hardware fails from time to time, do you think the iphone is bullet proof? You say you've been trying to get it working for the last month, well if you'd just had it repaired under warranty you'd probably have it back by now.
No, 6 weeks is more than a month. That's far too long for a phone to be in repair. The company was ****ty, that's a given, but the phone ****ed up.
My sister has an iphone and has had it since it came out. The thing with apple is, you can walk into an apple store down the street and walk out with a brand new phone. Repairs take 1 day.
HTC America was really nice and offered the European hotline, but they agreed that if I sent it out to them it would take more than a month, 2-3 apparently. And they cannot send me a new phone but would have to repair this one.
I thought this phone was bullet proof, people f'ing compared it to the iphone. It's an amazing phone, but not worth 700$.
And to get even the basic tools from diamond you need to jailbreak the iphone or use the 2.0 appstore(not the good solution)
haha nice one mouseymousey made me chuckle!
good luck with your iphone mate, you'll soon come running back! 'basic'illy has the same features just about sums it up! and make sure you have a good belt to hold your trousers up! ahem.. BRICK lol
like mousey says, hardware can break down, lifes not perfect mate!
if your fridge breaks down are you going to switch to only eating tinned food?
How so? What basic tools does the diamond have that the iphone does not? What are we missing here? Jailbreaking is meaningless anymore because i'm already on the network with the iphone. You still have to pay for WM applications, it's not like the appstore is killing you.
Sorry double posted on accident. Anyways. I'm sorry, everyone on this board has been great, but no one anywhere on the internet could help me solve this problem, and HTCs best support told me to "hard reset" amazing.
I've just realized that WM is too much trouble, and HTC products are and will always be far too expensive for what you get. If the unlocked iphone cost about 700$ with 4/gigs of internal storage people would be ****ing pissed. But nothing about HTC but rather its a supposed competitor. Failed to impress.
Also, hardware does not break down in a matter of days of you getting it, that's ridiculous, that's showing the quality build of the product being really ****ty. Honestly, If i got a fridge from sears, that broke down in a weeks time I would not get the same brand again. The problem is that every product that you get has to work for atleast a couple of months and you have to do something to do it for it to breakdown. For god's sake, I haven't bought a single product that I couldn't fix, this is literally a hardware failure, that wasn't warranted, I didn't even touch the phone the wrong way, I swear to you I have had it in a case as thick as my wallet. It's ridiculous. If you call it a random breakdown that happens every now and then, **** that. 700$ is a lot for me. And a months time for repairs isn't gravy.
bye bye then
ta tar then!
car navigation, copy - paste, does not even exist... good pushmail etc. exchange stuff... remote desktop, video recording, crappy speeds compared to htc on connections, even with the new 3g... just to name few...
i love the use of iphone, theres no comparison to that, but featurewise its no match for diamond
iphone can melt...
Do you even know that the back cover from the Iphone can be so hot...even the backside can melt...it's posted on a dutch website which found an article from an american user....
If you don't believe me, here's the link to the dutch website:
http://www.allaboutphones.nl/forum/iphone-3g-wordt-ook-erg-heet-en-kan-zelfs-smelten-t3131.html
http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=5943855&postcount=288
So you'd better think twice before you buy the Iphone...
greetzz Jeroen
oh yes, the '3g' phone that CANT make video calls?? errr, whats the point!!!? haha
iphone sucks big time!
There are so many good reasons to switch to the iPhone (useability, following the masses, trying to look cool, for example), but "because my phone broke" is not one of them when you consider that iPhone users have just been complaining about that very issue - and I'm not speaking about activation problems...
Anyway, have fun. Good luck with the battery.
I'll stick with the Diamond. Its features simply blow the iPhone out of the water. Most importantly for me is that I can easily write my own apps for it.
Car navigation does exist the new 3g has built in GPS. Copy and paste is released with the new 2.1 firmware, mobileme is up and running, HTC's wifi blows donkey, 3g is fast as hell on the iphone.
And again folks its not about features, its about BUILD QUALITY.
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Do you even know that the back cover from the Iphone can be so hot...even the backside can melt...
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So they found the TRUE reason to the clobal warming... iBlaah
Hi Intradvocate, can you please confirm that 6 weeks is longer than a month?
Sure, 31 days in a month (average) 7 days in a week, 4.4 weeks in a month. (divide 31 by 7)
Intradvocate said:
The HTC Touch Diamond is a piece of **** for what you pay for.
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This is my rant, and anyone else in California who has a working HTC Touch Diamond, good luck keeping it running.
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I can't help noticing that if the same thing happened to your iphone you would be probably writing similar post. Honestly WM6 is for professional and semi-professional users, perhaps closer to blackberry so if you were looking for an iphone like alternative it was a mistake. I am under no peer pressure in terms of "coolness"- the HTC SD must perform efficiently the business tasks that I throw at it and honestly there is currently no better alternative for my needs.
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And again folks its not about features, its about BUILD QUALITY.
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True, on iPod touch and non 3g iPhone, unfortunatelly the 3g version has not been the best quality from apple... this is quite tough place to get sympathy when changing to iblaah...
Hi,
i sent my nexus one for repair to HTC and i just received it right now.
i have some exciting news (THEY RE-LOCKED MY PHONE BOOT LOADER). please all smart developers HOW CAN I HELP?. i heard that we need the SPL, how can i get it out of my phone. I'm only 15 yrs. i have no experience(noob) except using adb and flashing roms and kernels.
what happend is i broke my screen (my sister ran over it with her car TWICE) and they replaced it for $283.00 + relocked my phone. tell me if i can help before re-rooting. if it won't help any mod who is reading delete or move.
What is a Nexus One doing in the hands of a 15 years old kid ....
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What is a Nexus One doing in the hands of a 15 years old kid ....
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I WORK. for the money
Sorry your phone will be of no use all they did is flash your ROM with the Factory Stock. Or they may have even replaced your entire motherboard if your sister ran over it.
Yeah, thats sounds about right for a mobo replacement and htc does not flash the phone at service, the firmware is already flashed to the motherboard, or so I read.
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Sorry your phone will be of no use all they did is flash your ROM with the Factory Stock. Or they may have even replaced your entire motherboard if your sister ran over it.
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Yup thats how they relocked the bootloader..
but damn, you're caking up at 15..
That said... thanks for thinking about the community and trying to help!
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What is a Nexus One doing in the hands of a 15 years old kid ....
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What the hell does that have to do with anything? Are 15 year old kids suddenly not allowed to have a good phone? Who cares how he paid for it?
That said - thanks OP for thinking of the community, but I don't think there is anything anyone can do to extract that.
Not gonna lie.. you kinda got my hopes up.. my nexus has been freezing up on me a little often now.. and i was going to send it in for warranty but I read ur warranty is voided if u unlock the boot loader so now im stuck..
Duyboy said:
Not gonna lie.. you kinda got my hopes up.. my nexus has been freezing up on me a little often now.. and i was going to send it in for warranty but I read ur warranty is voided if u unlock the boot loader so now im stuck..
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He sent it in rooted and they sorted it though. Ive heard quite a few stories now though of rooted phones with blatantly not software/rooted related problems and HTC being the honourable Taiwanese they are happily repairing the phone anyway [tbh it probably costs more of them to flag the phone, invoice for return carriage, store separately etc etc than just effing fixing the thing.]
ScottC said:
What the hell does that have to do with anything? Are 15 year old kids suddenly not allowed to have a good phone? Who cares how he paid for it?
That said - thanks OP for thinking of the community, but I don't think there is anything anyone can do to extract that.
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Thanks man. thats why i'm on XDA to benefit myself with knowledge and others with my knowledge . but i really need to help who needs their warranty back.i will do my best if there is any possible way.
Age
I'm 15 too and I have a nexus
I think Android at a young age can only benefit the future!
I mean, especially being within this XDA rooted community, a kid can learn.
besides that,
I'm also pretty sure this stupid boot loader nonsense will someday solve itself, thanks for the honest effort in trying to help out the community.
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What is a Nexus One doing in the hands of a 15 years old kid ....
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I put a whole year's worth of money into mine.
I'm only 14.
I've dealt with HTC customer service a few times, and it's 100% true they don't care if the phone bootloader is unlocked or not. If you do an exchange they specifically told me that all they do is check the phone for physical and water damage and that's it. They honored my warranty, at least
Seriously guys chill. I'm 15 and I have a Nexus, a Droid (thanks to Google's device seeding), and an ADP1. The Nexus & ADP1 I bought with my own money I had saved up from mowing yards. What does it matter how old the owner is?
Im only 14 and i bought my nexus when i was 13. i worked my butt of to get this phone. just because your young does not mean you cant buy an expensive phone. I mowed lawns, you went to your everyday work. why does it matter how old you are, or how you got the money to buy it?
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Im only 14 and i bought my nexus when i was 13. i worked my butt of to get this phone. just because your young does not mean you cant buy an expensive phone. I mowed lawns, you went to your everyday work. why does it matter how old you are, or how you got the money to buy it?
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I'm also 14 and own a Nexus One. It's ignorant to say "your ____ years old you don't deserve this phone". Not everybody was gifted the phone.
Damn when I was 14 I don't think I would have had the will power to save $600, would have kept spending it halfway through lol. Props to all you young guns!
I cant even remember when my kids were 14 years old let alone when I was. Seems like forever ago. Still, I like to see kids earn their toys, makes em respect the investment. Good work young fellars.
krabman said:
I cant even remember when my kids were 14 years old let alone when I was. Seems like forever ago. Still, I like to see kids earn their toys, makes em respect the investment. Good work young fellars.
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+1. I like to see kids work and save to get something they really don't need, but want. It's okay, as long as they don't use them some way that's going to get them into trouble.
But still, I am curious - who gets to pay for those data plans? Buying the phone is only the beginning of the expense.
Haha Everyone give this a read, i thought it was quite funny.
smallbusiness. aol. com/2010/07/06/the-iphone-is-ruining-my-life/?ncid=webmail
Since my account still hasnt been check out by administrators i cant post outside links
So just add the World Wide Web and subtract the two spaces before .aol and after.
The more complicated phones become, the more unreliable they seem!
I call BS. As a person that relies heavily on my mobile for work (email, phone, calendar and note taking) if my phone failed me like they claim, it would be in the nearest bin and a replacement would be in my hand withing hours.
People who claim that they have lost money because of this and then take no action are either:
a; exagerating the situation for some personal reason
or
b; too stupid to actually care (and then deserve everything they get)
Many of the people in the story are high earners and could easily replace the phone with a bit of kit from a shop, off-contract in hours. Under no circumstances would I allow a phone to "ruin my life". If mobile comms are so important to you and you cannot risk losing business over it and you notice these symptoms, you do something about it .... and quickly. New basic smartphone £250 v lost deal that could be worth £thousands.... simple maths.
(Actually I lie, if the phone failed me like the claims they make, mine wouldn't be in the bin, it would be back with the retailer under "Not fit for purose", either way, I would have a new phone in hours.)
Yours, very, very happy with his HD2,
Monty
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I call BS. As a person that relies heavily on my mobile for work (email, phone, calendar and note taking) if my phone failed me like they claim, it would be in the nearest bin and a replacement would be in my hand withing hours.
People who claim that they have lost money because of this and then take no action are either:
a; exagerating the situation for some personal reason
or
b; too stupid to actually care (and then deserve everything they get)
Many of the people in the story are high earners and could easily replace the phone with a bit of kit from a shop, off-contract in hours. Under no circumstances would I allow a phone to "ruin my life". If mobile comms are so important to you and you cannot risk losing business over it and you notice these symptoms, you do something about it .... and quickly. New basic smartphone £250 v lost deal that could be worth £thousands.... simple maths.
(Actually I lie, if the phone failed me like the claims they make, mine wouldn't be in the bin, it would be back with the retailer under "Not fit for purose", either way, I would have a new phone in hours.)
Yours, very, very happy with his HD2,
Monty
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I agree, Your tools should work for you, you shouldnt do the work for your tools. Why maintain loyalty to a brand when that brand is screwing you over?
Please have a read to this!!
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Please have a read to this!!
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Ha Ha Ha, Thats made my day........
Was he serious???
Surely not.....
the iphones ruined my life too............... my missus has one and Im addicted to that stupid paper toss game. Whenever shes not in I have to sit and actually throw a ball of paper into a real bin Thats not right in this day and age...
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Ha Ha Ha, Thats made my day........
Was he serious???
Surely not.....
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I´m sure he/she is serious!!
That´s the most hilarious thing
Jump in guys and post your comments
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Please have a read to this!!
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Ok so..
Its been about 12 days since I have had this phone. I thought I could be patient enough with it to maybe wait for a root (if developers are even still working on it.)
Turns out I am not so patient.. I would rather switch to a company like HTC who is kind enough to give tools to their customers who want the option to do what they want with their own ****ing cell phone that they purchased. :highfive:
Anyway..
My question is: Is anyone familiar with the return policy? I am pretty sure that it is 14 days and I can trade it back in hopefully for an M8, but if someone that has experience or knowledge with this can shed some more light I would be very grateful.
Second question would be do you guys think the HTC One M8 is the best option for me right now? Ill be going through at&t and I want to be able to root and flash roms. Preferably some of the more popular ones like AOKP or Pac-Man etc..
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Ok so..
Its been about 12 days since I have had this phone. I thought I could be patient enough with it to maybe wait for a root (if developers are even still working on it.)
Turns out I am not so patient.. I would rather switch to a company like HTC who is kind enough to give tools to their customers who want the option to do what they want with their own ****ing cell phone that they purchased. :highfive:
Anyway..
My question is: Is anyone familiar with the return policy? I am pretty sure that it is 14 days and I can trade it back in hopefully for an M8, but if someone that has experience or knowledge with this can shed some more light I would be very grateful.
Second question would be do you guys think the HTC One M8 is the best option for me right now? Ill be going through at&t and I want to be able to root and flash roms. Preferably some of the more popular ones like AOKP or Pac-Man etc..
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just go do it. why do you need to ask about it when you already know the terms. simply call them or go to the store.
Later.
I am not sure about the terms, that's why I posted on these forums asking. That's why I said "I'm pretty sure" and asked if someone who knew for sure could give me more details. :good:
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I am not sure about the terms, that's why I posted on these forums asking. That's why I said "I'm pretty sure" and asked if someone who knew for sure could give me more details. :good:
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what's the point of posting anything here. whats the point of even sharing your thoughts of switching. if you made your decision, just go and do it. why ask us when you can ask AT&T? just leave man
Because I bought it on launch day and I am not sure how many days you get before you can return the phone. A lot of people are switching too or getting the TMO version, so I think a topic like this could become helpful to others as well.
Not sure why you are being rude, if you aren't going to help or say anything worth reading just stop typing. I didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings in showing that I think owning a locked down device isn't for me anymore.. it's still a great phone. I just thought I would be more patient or enjoy stock more, but I was wrong.
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I am not sure about the terms, that's why I posted on these forums asking. That's why I said "I'm pretty sure" and asked if someone who knew for sure could give me more details. :good:
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14 days from purchase to return and a $35 restocking fee are basically the terms.
Personally, I wouldn't switch. I think the S5 is a superior device even without root (for now). but you gotta do what's best for you. Good luck.
peaster3 said:
14 days from purchase to return and a $35 restocking fee are basically the terms.
Personally, I wouldn't switch. I think the S5 is a superior device even without root (for now). but you gotta do what's best for you. Good luck.
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Thank you for a real reply and for the information, its really appreciated.
I think the S5 is a superior device too, but I really need root for certain apps. Not to mention flashing roms can be pretty fun.
Also sooo much bloat I just want to remove, not a big deal, but prefer a clean device.
Pretty sure mine will be going back in the next few days as well. I love the camera and the water resistance is great, but for the price, with the ehh battery life I've been getting and some annoying software stuff, it can't do anything that my international Note II can't.
In the future if/when someone can find an exploit and get root, I would definitely give it another shot.
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Pretty sure mine will be going back in the next few days as well. I love the camera and the water resistance is great, but for the price, with the ehh battery life I've been getting and some annoying software stuff, it can't do anything that my international Note II can't.
In the future if/when someone can find an exploit and get root, I would definitely give it another shot.
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Yea I completely agree. The cons just outweigh the pros for me personally in this situation!
The bloat you can disable until root comes out
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The bloat you can disable since root won't come out
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Ftfy
I'm enjoying all these people giving up its really quite amusing. I had a backflip and an atrix your puny 12 day wait has nothing on the wait for those phones to have root.
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I'm enjoying all these people giving up its really quite amusing. I had a backflip and an atrix your puny 12 day wait has nothing on the wait for those phones to have root.
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Well the reason for the rush is I can return it for something that already has root and more development. I'd rather get more enjoyment now rather than hope and wait. Although if the return policy stated like 2 months or something, I'd honestly probably still wait those 2 months because I do enjoy this phone.
It's also the principal of the situation too though. I'm not ALL FOR companies that sell overpriced phones that, when bought, are just so locked down that i don't even feel like it's actually fully mine.
I've got a week to decide, I may stop in to have a look at the competition.
I've been seeing a lot of people posting that they aren't getting that great of battery life. I'm getting about 36 hours uptime with about 6 hours screen. Is that better or worse than what you guys are seeing? TIA.
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Josborne6 said:
I've been seeing a lot of people posting that they aren't getting that great of battery life. I'm getting about 36 hours uptime with about 6 hours screen. Is that better or worse than what you guys are seeing? TIA.
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There only seems to be a handful complaining, even on other forums people are getting crazy good battery life. Heck I can have on screen time of 4-5+ hours, tons of email, text, phone calls etc, all sync is on, gps is on etc.... and still have plenty life left at the end of the day, actually as I type this in similar situation I have 22% life left and been off the charger for 33 hours, and even browsing I still have 4 tabs open. First phone where the thought of not having enough battery doesn't even occur to me, going to be nice on trips lol.
Far as the OP, do what you have to do, though I don't know why you'd think root would've been available by now on this phone, this isn't the old days where people could crack same day. I liked the M8 but couldn't put up with the camera and bulkiness plus no water proofing.
I have the M8. If you like flashing and customizing it is a no brainer. I myself am running stock and still enjoy the device.
My wife has a S5. It's pretty and white and shimmers like nail polish. Perfect phone for a beautiful girl.
Also as far as the discussion of superiority of either device. It's an opinionated one. Each excels at their own intended goals.
If the camera of the M8 is scaring you, just ask yourself . " will I be on assignment for national geographic where I will need to take epic photos on the go?"
If you answered no, then this camera should be good enough for your personal use.
It seems like you're just asking for that little push for you to make the trade.
I am giving you that "push". Everything will be okay in HTC land....be free...
Oh yeah. Have fun with the raised speaker grills. The gamble on receiving two variations of the LCD screen and ... Yeah that's about it.
HTC UltimEight ?
It really depends on where you bought the device. Typical return policy would be 14 days. Some vendors do not charge a restocking fees on returns but "I heard" AT&T can charge you. This was forwarded to me from the sales rep. I got my S5 at Target and returned it. I was not charged with a restocking fee by them or At&t that I am aware of.
I got myself the M8 since I wanted root.
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I have the M8. If you like flashing and customizing it is a no brainer. I myself am running stock and still enjoy the device.
My wife has a S5. It's pretty and white and shimmers like nail polish. Perfect phone for a beautiful girl.
Also as far as the discussion of superiority of either device. It's an opinionated one. Each excels at their own intended goals.
If the camera of the M8 is scaring you, just ask yourself . " will I be on assignment for national geographic where I will need to take epic photos on the go?"
If you answered no, then this camera should be good enough for your personal use.
It seems like you're just asking for that little push for you to make the trade.
I am giving you that "push". Everything will be okay in HTC land....be free...
Oh yeah. Have fun with the raised speaker grills. The gamble on receiving two variations of the LCD screen and ... Yeah that's about it.
HTC UltimEight ?
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I have both, a gunmetal grey m8 and shimmery white tmo s5 sim unlocked for ATT, The m8 is great if you like to mod/customize, you can run Sense, GPE, or AOSP (cm is already being worked on)...The s5 (ATT) obviously is locked down....both phones are very nice it just depends if you need the ability to customize.
I thought the day would never come that I would own an Apple product, it's a sad day. I actually got a company phone and they use iPhones and I refuse to carry around 2 phones so I will be giving my galaxy s5 to my son.
I hope I was able to help a few people out on here whether it was informational or being a test subject for the purpose of root. It was a good run while it lasted.
I may still silently troll around in here though! Take care all!
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I thought the day would never come that I would own an Apple product, it's a sad day. I actually got a company phone and they use iPhones and I refuse to carry around 2 phones so I will be giving my galaxy s5 to my son.
I hope I was able to help a few people out on here whether it was informational or being a test subject for the purpose of root. It was a good run while it lasted.
I may still silently troll around in here though! Take care all!
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Farewell, sad to see you go!
Yeah...this is about the ONLY way I would ever have an iPhone as well. I wouldn't carry around 2 phones either.
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