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Hello everyone!
Background (less important): So, I've been looking at getting a Oneplus phone for a while but when my last 2 phones died back to back, I got an S6 from insurance. Problem with the S6 being just about everything (no SD card expansion, no removable battery, no rooting abilities, etc). I've been keeping an eye out for the right time to get a new device and, now that my device memory is full, I'm looking at a new phone.
I was looking at picking up either the S7 or the Oneplus 3T. The S7 is under $500 on amazon, which is pretty surprising (thought it would be much more expensive), has expandable SD card support, pretty good battery, good camera, lots of RAM, etc and they just got the ability to root. It also has some cool options like medical sensor stuff, etc (not all that important, just extra bells and whistles).
However, the 3T appears to have a very active rooting/mods community, and overall, many people have said this is the best phone they've ever had so I'm leaning towards picking that up. The only downsides I've seen/heard are the camera on the 3T isn't as good (definitely not the end of the world, it's still an upgrade from my S6) and I've seen a number of battery drain threads and that genuinely concerns me. I understand that those with the issue are likely going to be a lot more vocal than those that have everything working but I was hoping to gauge how much of a concern this really is and if anyone has determined the cause of the battery drain and if there's a solution. What I don't want to do is get a developer friendly phone that dies super quick (I understand it charges fast too but I don;t want to rely on that).
Anyway, this is kind of an important decision for me as my goal is to keep a phone for 3 years so I'm looking for a phone that is pretty well future proof (for a while, I know 3 years is a long time in the technology field) and I don't want to "settle" for a phone that's going to give me nothing but headaches.
If you guys could help me understand how big of a deal the battery drain is, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
Okay here's the deal. You're posting in the Oneplus 3T forum and people are clearly going to be biased, you're lucky I'm coming from a Galaxy Note 7 and my girlfriend has an S7 Edge.
The experience you're going to get with a Samsung is far richer in features and the camera is superior. The phone just yells premium out of it's every part. The microphone will record your voice better as well.
However, if you're looking for a future proof phone the Oneplus 3T is clearly a winner. People are crying about drain and SoT simply because they're more pretentious and pay more attention to details than Samsung users. All Android phones have some sort of drain and with time, stock ROMs get more laggy and battery consuming. The advantage you have on oneplus is that you can apply all sorts of custom ROMs, kernels and mods to squeeze out the most of your battery, while on Samsung you're more prone of getting stuck with drain sooner or later.
Here's where OP3T's top card comes, dash charge is amazing. At this point I don't even care about SoT since I can charge my phone to 60% in 30m. I'm getting 4-5 hours of SoT without tweaks and 4G always on data using stock ROM. Who even wants to stick their eyes in the phone screen for more than that?
You can't go wrong with the OP3T unless you're willing to wait for the next oneplus.
Bottom line, the drain people have been experiencing on OxygenOS 4.0.3 is of little concern, especially since it's improves with Beta 12 7.1.1. Stop overthinking and get the phone you like.
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Okay here's the deal. You're posting in the Oneplus 3T forum and people are clearly going to be biased, you're lucky I'm coming from a Galaxy Note 7 and my girlfriend has an S7 Edge.
The experience you're going to get with a Samsung is far richer in features and the camera is superior. The phone just yells premium out of it's every part. The microphone will record your voice better as well.
However, if you're looking for a future proof phone the Oneplus 3T is clearly a winner. People are crying about drain and SoT simply because they're more pretentious and pay more attention to details than Samsung users. All Android phones have some sort of drain and with time, stock ROMs get more laggy and battery consuming. The advantage you have on oneplus is that you can apply all sorts of custom ROMs, kernels and mods to squeeze out the most of your battery, while on Samsung you're more prone of getting stuck with drain sooner or later.
Here's where OP3T's top card comes, dash charge is amazing. At this point I don't even care about SoT since I can charge my phone to 60% in 30m. I'm getting 4-5 hours of SoT without tweaks and 4G always on data using stock ROM. Who even wants to stick their eyes in the phone screen for more than that?
You can't go wrong with the OP3T unless you're willing to wait for the next oneplus.
Bottom line, the drain people have been experiencing on OxygenOS 4.0.3 is of little concern, especially since it's improves with Beta 12 7.1.1. Stop overthinking and get the phone you like.
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So just to be clear, you're saying that the battery drain people are experiencing is likely related to a version/rom/etc that they are using and they're too lazy to try different things to try and optimize it but even if I am that lazy, the dash charge still works well enough that it shouldn't be an issue for most people (assuming you're near a charging socket), is that a pretty good synopsis?
Just want to understand if you believe the issue is user error (not using the right software components/settings), user pickiness (IE they're perceiving a problem that's not really there) or if there are the occasional phone that experiences battery issues but it's a very small number.
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So just to be clear, you're saying that the battery drain people are experiencing is likely related to a version/rom/etc that they are using and they're too lazy to try different things to try and optimize it but even if I am that lazy, the dash charge still works well enough that it shouldn't be an issue for most people (assuming you're near a charging socket), is that a pretty good synopsis?
Just want to understand if you believe the issue is user error (not using the right software components/settings), user pickiness (IE they're perceiving a problem that's not really there) or if there are the occasional phone that experiences battery issues but it's a very small number.
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I think that that's what he wants to tell you. To myself : I have the 3T since yesterday and since I'm coming from a M8 it's a huge upgrade for me. But for your comparison : my brother has the S7 and plenty of my friends have the S7E. S7E is in my opinion a superior phone in terms of camera, mic, display, waterproof .. etc. All the things that make the S7/E more superior is only because Sammy has done a better job, BUT what they didn't was to make the phone future proof. The thing with OP3T is that it also does/contains all of the superior things, it's just not that good. The camera is fine for me, I don't care about waterproofness, a 2K display is nice but you won't notice the difference anyway except for the brightness if you compare them both side by side. I'm pretty sure I've made my point.
Now for the 3T's battery drain : I was still on OxygenOS 3.5.4 because I didn't felt the urge to update. Woke up at 7 AM and plugged it out, somewhere between 10 - 11 AM I was on something like 27 percent. It was somehow strange but ok. Now that I couldn't resist to flash CM13 I've noticed a HUGE difference. I flashed CM13 at around 5 PM while I was charging it (was at 90% at 5PM) and now after 4h of using it I'm at 68%. Huge differnce no doubt and I'm staying at CM13.
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I think that that's what he wants to tell you. To myself : I have the 3T since yesterday and since I'm coming from a M8 it's a huge upgrade for me. But for your comparison : my brother has the S7 and plenty of my friends have the S7E. S7E is in my opinion a superior phone in terms of camera, mic, display, waterproof .. etc. All the things that make the S7/E more superior is only because Sammy has done a better job, BUT what they didn't was to make the phone future proof. The thing with OP3T is that it also does/contains all of the superior things, it's just not that good. The camera is fine for me, I don't care about waterproofness, a 2K display is nice but you won't notice the difference anyway except for the brightness if you compare them both side by side. I'm pretty sure I've made my point.
Now for the 3T's battery drain : I was still on OxygenOS 3.5.4 because I didn't felt the urge to update. Woke up at 7 AM and plugged it out, somewhere between 10 - 11 AM I was on something like 27 percent. It was somehow strange but ok. Now that I couldn't resist to flash CM13 I've noticed a HUGE difference. I flashed CM13 at around 5 PM while I was charging it (was at 90% at 5PM) and now after 4h of using it I'm at 68%. Huge differnce no doubt and I'm staying at CM13.
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Thanks for the advice, particularly about the future proofing. I honestly don't get why Samsung hasn't moved to a USB C connector yet . . . Seems like a no brainer, that's clearly the direction everything is heading.
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So just to be clear, you're saying that the battery drain people are experiencing is likely related to a version/rom/etc that they are using and they're too lazy to try different things to try and optimize it but even if I am that lazy, the dash charge still works well enough that it shouldn't be an issue for most people (assuming you're near a charging socket), is that a pretty good synopsis?
Just want to understand if you believe the issue is user error (not using the right software components/settings), user pickiness (IE they're perceiving a problem that's not really there) or if there are the occasional phone that experiences battery issues but it's a very small number.
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Yeah, that's my opinion based on experience as a former Oneplus One, Samsung Galaxy Note 7 and current Oneplus 3T user. People mostly started complaining about drain with OOS4.0.3 (latest current stock) and it will definitely be fixed with OOS nougat 7.1.1. This "battery drain" stigma that you're currently placing on the OP3T has been placed on all major flagships at some point. I can't be certain how well this device will be officially updated in the future, or how the battery will hold up after many many cycles, but i can assure you it will hold up better than an S7.
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Thanks for the advice, particularly about the future proofing. I honestly don't get why Samsung hasn't moved to a USB C connector yet . . . Seems like a no brainer, that's clearly the direction everything is heading.
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They did have USB-C on the Note 7. At the point of S7 launch it wasn't that widespread.
Alek123 said:
Yeah, that's my opinion based on experience as a former Oneplus One, Samsung Galaxy Note 7 and current Oneplus 3T user. People mostly started complaining about drain with OOS4.0.3 (latest current stock) and it will definitely be fixed with OOS nougat 7.1.1. This "battery drain" stigma that you're currently placing on the OP3T has been placed on all major flagships at some point. I can't be certain how well this device will be officially updated in the future, or how the battery will hold up after many many cycles, but i can assure you it will hold up better than an S7.
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I'm actually really glad you mentioned that because, you're right, I have definitely experienced various stages of battery drain between updates on Samsung devices except I didn't get to choose when or if I wanted to update with those. At least I'll now be in control of those things! Made up my mind, ordering the Oneplus 3T now! Thanks!
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I'm actually really glad you mentioned that because, you're right, I have definitely experienced various stages of battery drain between updates on Samsung devices except I didn't get to choose when or if I wanted to update with those. At least I'll now be in control of those things! Made up my mind, ordering the Oneplus 3T now! Thanks!
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I am certain you won't regret getting this device. Let me know if you need any help or have any more questions via PM.
6-7 hour of sot per charge every 22-28 hours.
technology is weird. people can get battery drains for all kinds of reasons. google services may be a reason. or some wakelock by some random app that never was a problem, but after installing it on a certain rom on a certain phone it suddenly is a problem. and weirdly enough you are the only one experiencing it. it might be something with the rom where a factory reset may help. some people go ahead and flash another rom and then it is gone. sometimes they make the wrong conclusion that it is the roms fault. or the kernels or whatever. it happens on every phone. just go to a random phones forum and you will find threads with people complaining about battery drain. and they will be the only ones with this particular issue. the vast majority of users does not have such issues. if they do you will find out about it soon enough and after some time there will be an update that fixes it.
my sot is around 5 hours depending on what i do. using media like movies gives you more screen time, heavy gaming gives you less screen time.
Hey guyz. I've got nexus 5 for 2 years now and im starting to look after a new phone. I love my nexus 5 and honestly i wouldnt change it. The cons of nex 5 are battery and the fact that it's old phone with no more android support(got 7.1.2 and i think it is the last stable one). I bought a new original battery few days ago, but it didn't provide me any battery time boost : ( ( (. I even calibrated it 2 times already. Maybe wrong ROM/Kernel. Never mind nex 5, not the topic .
I have a few questions about moto x4. The price of this phone is affordable for me in my country. It costs about 250 Euro. I am very glad of IP67, usb type C. Cortex a53 2.2ghz, 3gb ram i think its enough. 5.2 LCD with 3000mah battery should be good.
-Will the software be ever as customizable as nexus 5?
-Connected to customize - will I be able to install a dark theme?( I love that and i cant live without it, i cant stand white phone app, sms app, settings app etc). Is substratum working on stock?
-What is android one ? Its is like multi rom between Oreo and One or it's just a name for soft in devices, which will be updated very often?
-Is battery enough for a day? My nex 5 is so bad : (. 40min video drains ~~20% battery - i watch many series on it on my way in bus/tram)
-Is performance good? I don't get this proccessors. It has octa 2.2ghz and i saw that benhmakrs show subjectively low performance(at least comparing to my nex 5 2.3x4)
-Is there - vibrate on answer option in stock rom ?
-Is there double click on Power button to flashlite in stock rom? Or is it accessible by some modifcation
-Is notification diode replaceable somehow ? I heard that there's weak diode for battery notifications - any comments?
I think that's it by now.
Appriciate Your comments
No. X4 is wife's DD.
Cons:
I don't like that 13GB of the 32GB internal storage is taken up by system.
The camera is slow to take pics.
Pros:
Nice size if you don't want a big phone.
Better battery life than every phone I've had, with exception of my DD Moto Z2 Play, which is about the same.
I recommend the Z2 Play. I believe it to be the best phone I've had.
osemoka said:
-Will the software be ever as customizable as nexus 5?
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Unknown, but probably unlikely. The stock software is pretty much a bone-stock android 8.0, and the Android One version does have an unlock-able bootloader, but the development of ROMs for this device is pretty much just starting. I doubt anyone would run a 7.1.2 ROM for this device, and Oreo just came out a few weeks ago.
osemoka said:
-Connected to customize - will I be able to install a dark theme?( I love that and i cant live without it, i cant stand white phone app, sms app, settings app etc). Is substratum working on stock?
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You could manually install substratum, but that requires root. Root is available for these devices, but it's also pretty new, so success isn't guaranteed, and if you bork it, you might be on your own.
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-What is android one ? Its is like multi rom between Oreo and One or it's just a name for soft in devices, which will be updated very often?
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Android One is a program that Google started a few years ago for Manufacturers to sell their phones with a stock (or as close to stock as possible) version of Android. The X4 is the first North American phone to be certified under the Android One branding. It basically means that you are getting a Google phone. It's Google's way to discontinue the Nexus brand, but still offer stock android experiences on phones that are cheaper than the Pixels. (Do not confuse Android One with Oreo's Treble, which is a new feature in Oreo to allow OEMs to apply security updates easier and quicker. This phone does not seem to have Treble support as of right now).
osemoka said:
-Is battery enough for a day? My nex 5 is so bad : (. 40min video drains ~~20% battery - i watch many series on it on my way in bus/tram)
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Battery life is fantastic. Best battery life I've ever had. Most people are reporting an average of 5-7 hours of SOT. I average ~13%/hour Screen on, and about 1%/hour Screen off. I used to charge mine every other day, but now that I got a Fitbit last week, it goes about a day and a half. You could easily watch a 40 minute video on each commute.
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-Is performance good? I don't get this proccessors. It has octa 2.2ghz and i saw that benhmakrs sho0w subjectively low performance(at least comparing to my nex 5 2.3x4)
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What benchmarks were that? Before I got my phone, I saw Antutu benchmarks that put my old 5X and this new X4 on about the same range, and I believe the 5X was significantly faster than the 5. Anyways, this phone is plenty fast, and feels maybe a little faster than my old 5X. The only time I'm really pushing it is when it's processing HDR+ photos, as even most games I play don't stress it. It's very smooth in games, and even gets bettery batterly life when you're under load.
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-Is there - vibrate on answer option in stock rom ?
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Can you give more info? I'm not sure what you're talking about here. You want the phone to vibrate when you answer a phone call?
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-Is there double click on Power button to flashlite in stock rom? Or is it accessible by some modifcation
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There is a gesture action that you can enable to turn the flashlight on by chopping twice. It works pretty well, but I have it turned off most of the time, as I keep the quick launch icon in my status bar if I need it. It's up to you.
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-Is notification diode replaceable somehow ? I heard that there's weak diode for battery notifications - any comments?
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That's way beyond the scope of what I've seen done on this device. I don't think anyone has done any hardware mods to these phones yet. I haven't noticed that the battery warning diode is particularly dim, but I also think that's a weird thing to be nitpicking on a cheap phone such as this. It's mid-ranged phone that is solid, well-built, looks good, feels good, performs great, has exceptional battery life, has a very good camera (once you replace the crap Moto camera software), and I don't have any issues with it. Anyways, hope this helped you in your decision.
pizza_pablo said:
No. X4 is wife's DD.
Cons:
I don't like that 13GB of the 32GB internal storage is taken up by system.
The camera is slow to take pics.
Pros:
Nice size if you don't want a big phone.
Better battery life than every phone I've had, with exception of my DD Moto Z2 Play, which is about the same.
I recommend the Z2 Play. I believe it to be the best phone I've had.
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With Camera NX (https://forum.xda-developers.com/ne...d-camera-nx-v4-google-camera-zsl-hdr-t3494435) I have had almost zero shutter lag which solves that problem IMO.
Hi all,
I wonder if you guys still using this phone as your daily driver? And how do you feel about its performance?which rom are you using?
Mine is on havoc and its not so responsive.
I consider buying a new one but still waiting to this notch era to end (no notch no drop no mechanical slide, etc.)
*** My battery is at its 900 cycle, and it has 2xxx something capacity left, I wonder if there is "battery scandle" like apple use to have? ***
tawa2525 said:
Hi all,
I wonder if you guys still using this phone as your daily driver? And how do you feel about its performance?which rom are you using?
Mine is on havoc and its not so responsive.
I consider buying a new one but still waiting to this notch era to end (no notch no drop no mechanical slide, etc.)
*** My battery is at its 900 cycle, and it has 2xxx something capacity left, I wonder if there is "battery scandle" like apple use to have? ***
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I too am using Havoc OS 2.3 and performance is pretty good. Most games run pretty well with the exception of a few games like PUBG and Shadowguns: Legends. Regular applications are very snappy. But that isn't to say there are any problems with using Pie, most notably bad heating issues when watching youtube videos and severe instability issues.
Even my battery shows that it has only 2605 mAh capacity and I definitely feel the loss in capacity with my phone barely lasting for more than half a day.
As for your performance issues, check your kernel setting or try flashing a different kernel or just do a clean flash of the ROM.
which kernel are you using? , I'm always do a clean flash every time but do the OTA update couple time, will it effect my phone performance using OTA update?
tawa2525 said:
Hi all,
I wonder if you guys still using this phone as your daily driver? And how do you feel about its performance?which rom are you using?
Mine is on havoc and its not so responsive.
I consider buying a new one but still waiting to this notch era to end (no notch no drop no mechanical slide, etc.)
*** My battery is at its 900 cycle, and it has 2xxx something capacity left, I wonder if there is "battery scandle" like apple use to have? ***
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Mine is on latest stock ROM and it just returned from the authorized service center due to a problem on the screen. I replaced the screen the battery.
It's my daily driver and for me it works as new. It's very, I mean VERY responsive and I don't feel that I need a new one. I just would buy a new one to have the latest tech on my hands regarding screen, camera and so on.
Stock OOS. Just as fast and responsive as it was when I got it 2 years ago. Any "slowdown" can probably be attributed to the fact that apps and even websites hog up more and more device resources every year. I can't detect any slowdown due to Apple-style "throttling".
Of course, a newer device will always feel faster and smoother. We often don't realize how much our devices "lag", until we make that switch. But personally, I'm still happy with the performance on the 3T. It does everything I need it to, and don't plan to upgrade my device in the near future.
I am thinking about switching phones from my OnePlus 9. I like my OP9, but it is very glitchy for what it is supposed to be and really the only thing that impresses me is the WarpCharge feature. I am very fond of smaller phones, such as the ZenFone 8. I haven't purchased an ASUS device at all before, not even a computer.
Who has it and do you think it is worth even considering? My daily use consists of social media, internet browsing, and watching videos. It is very rarely that I download a game and play it on mobile. I also prefer somewhat swift updates, but have been an avid Motorola user before and was perfectly fine with their update timings.
I'm also in the same boat however 'm using Nord now..not very much satisfied with it..Oneplus really lost its glory now a days . Also 'm looking for compact phones..ZF8 seems to be perfect..would like to hear from real users..
I'm on the same boat except I'm using Xiaomi Mi 9T. Zenfone 8 looks like a perfect phone but I heard the thermals are bad and it gets hot af, like really hot.
I have it and the only down side is standby drain. Even after a few system updates my drain is about 50-100% higher than my op6. It's gotten better since the first version, but still not great.
I love it's form factor, GUI fluidity, Asus apps are great.
I haven't played any games so I can't really say anything about thermals.. never felt any temperature build-up.
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I have it and the only down side is standby drain. Even after a few system updates my drain is about 50-100% higher than my op6. It's gotten better since the first version, but still not great.
I love it's form factor, GUI fluidity, Asus apps are great.
I haven't played any games so I can't really say anything about thermals.. never felt any temperature build-up.
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Does it last at least around 6-8 hours?
The screen isn't the best and the battery drains a bit too quick, but I'd say it's worth it. I like the stock ROM. The power button can be customised to perform two different actions, Game Genie shows CPU, GPU, battery, temperature and FPS, Optiflex speeds up apps and reduces battery usage. Also, didn't expect to find system performance modes, dt2w, dt2s or gestures, which, if drawn while the screen is off, launch apps.
Undead_Son said:
The screen isn't the best and the battery drains a bit too quick, but I'd say it's worth it. I like the stock ROM. The power button can be customised to perform two different actions, Game Genie shows CPU, GPU, battery, temperature and FPS, Optiflex speeds up apps and reduces battery usage. Also, didn't expect to find system performance modes, dt2w, dt2s or gestures, which, if drawn while the screen is off, launch apps.
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How long does the battery last for you?
Undead_Son said:
The screen isn't the best and the battery drains a bit too quick, but I'd say it's worth it. I like the stock ROM. The power button can be customised to perform two different actions, Game Genie shows CPU, GPU, battery, temperature and FPS, Optiflex speeds up apps and reduces battery usage. Also, didn't expect to find system performance modes, dt2w, dt2s or gestures, which, if drawn while the screen is off, launch apps.
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This opinion is very subjective and quite off.
The screen isn't the best? Maybe there are literally few phones with better screens but it's definitely among the very top. No idea what is wrong with it.
Battery drain? I get easily 6h SOT and whole day use. No issues at all. 8h during night eats me like 5-8 percent. The good is that all my smartwatches and earbuds are very stable and I get no disconnections like on Huawei flagship phones.
I can confirm that coming video in bright sun in 30 Celsius gets the phone hot, very hot. I think that's normal. And it's waterproof so I've just taken it underwater for 5s and it was back to normal.
If you can live with the cut out camera - this phone is brilliant.
I was using LG V30 and Huawei Mate 20 before this and I see no downsides. Everything is better than on those two. I like them all.
Kemez said:
This opinion is very subjective and quite off.
The screen isn't the best? Maybe there are literally few phones with better screens but it's definitely among the very top. No idea what is wrong with it.
Battery drain? I get easily 6h SOT and whole day use. No issues at all. 8h during night eats me like 5-8 percent. The good is that all my smartwatches and earbuds are very stable and I get no disconnections like on Huawei flagship phones.
I can confirm that coming video in bright sun in 30 Celsius gets the phone hot, very hot. I think that's normal. And it's waterproof so I've just taken it underwater for 5s and it was back to normal.
If you can live with the cut out camera - this phone is brilliant.
I was using LG V30 and Huawei Mate 20 before this and I see no downsides. Everything is better than on those two. I like them all.
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Awesome reply! I believe I will be purchasing it to replace my OP9.
Kemez said:
This opinion is very subjective and quite off.
The screen isn't the best? Maybe there are literally few phones with better screens but it's definitely among the very top. No idea what is wrong with it.
Battery drain? I get easily 6h SOT and whole day use. No issues at all. 8h during night eats me like 5-8 percent. The good is that all my smartwatches and earbuds are very stable and I get no disconnections like on Huawei flagship phones.
I can confirm that coming video in bright sun in 30 Celsius gets the phone hot, very hot. I think that's normal. And it's waterproof so I've just taken it underwater for 5s and it was back to normal.
If you can live with the cut out camera - this phone is brilliant.
I was using LG V30 and Huawei Mate 20 before this and I see no downsides. Everything is better than on those two. I like them all.
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When I said "not the best" I had two things in mind. First the backlight issue at 60 and 120 Hz. As for the second one, few days ago my Zf8 was on a desk together with my previous phone (Xperia 5 II). I think I had some web pages open on both at the time because the screens were mostly white. When I looked at them while standing and almost at a flat angle, I immediately noticed that the Xperia's screen was white as a sheet of paper, Zenfone's wasn't. I assumed the Xperia's screen can be viewed without distortion at wider angles.
I played one game which is locked at 30 FPS, CPU and GPU usage was 10-30%, temp stayed at 36-37C. Will try something more demanding and see if it can go over 40C during the weekend.
Edit: idle drain 0.5%/h, but Franco Kernel Manager shows 0.28% for some reason
Good topic to keep track of.
Right now i have a OnePlus 9 Pro and as i really like it I'm kind of done with big smartphones.
As i had the Pixel 5 before i was thinking about going back and then the ZenFone 8 came to my attention.
It's damn ugly but that's something that can be changed with a case or skin.
I'm in doubt about the camera's compared to the Pixel 5 but the reviews I've seen so far seems quite good, not the best but good and comparable to the OnePlus 9.
I also read that Asus's update policy is not very reliable.
Anyone can give their opinion about this parts?
Everything else about this phone seems really good!
After using the zenfone 8 and Pixel 5 I went for the Pixel 5 because of the insanely better battery life than on the zenfone 8
Zenfone 8 had a slightly better camera with gcam but overall I was more impressed with the Pixel 5
It is true that other phones may have better battery, the Mate 20 I have is much better but at the cost of unreliable smart devices connection.
I can't get 2 days of my normal usage out of any phone. If I go hiking and just have the phone with me the Zenfone will also last 2-3 days easily. For me 1 day is the requirement and Zenfone does it easily.
The cameras are really good and with gcam and the right settings in there it gives great, real to life pictures. The super wide camera has the same sensor as Pixel 5. The main and selfie are even better and newer.
And the main thing - here in Poland the Pixel is 290USD more expensive than Asus. At the same price I'd probably buy the Pixel as it is a more established brand and has better support.
People write here that ZF8 can be bad at getting updates but the initial month had 4 updates. Can't see anything wrong here.
If the ZF9 will be the same size and gets the flip camera I will 100% buy it.
Kemez said:
It is true that other phones may have better battery, the Mate 20 I have is much better but at the cost of unreliable smart devices connection.
I can't get 2 days of my normal usage out of any phone. If I go hiking and just have the phone with me the Zenfone will also last 2-3 days easily. For me 1 day is the requirement and Zenfone does it easily.
The cameras are really good and with gcam and the right settings in there it gives great, real to life pictures. The super wide camera has the same sensor as Pixel 5. The main and selfie are even better and newer.
And the main thing - here in EU the Pixel is 290USD more expensive than Asus. At the same price I'd probably buy the Pixel as it is a more established brand and has better support.
People write here that ZF8 can be bad at getting updates but the initial month had 4 updates. Can't see anything wrong here.
If the ZF9 will be the same size and gets the flip camera I will 100% buy it.
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Pixel has a different sensor for the ultra wide. For the others i can't comment on that but it seems they are at least very close to each when it comes to picture quality.
It's so strange that the price difference in the world is so big. Here in the Netherlands the zenfone 8 is more expensive compared to the Pixel 5.
I can't say much on the phone as I've not used one yet, but from my own research and a friend whose ordered one, I can give me opinion. The specs are great, I think it exceeds in every category, but the camera. I don't the camera is as good as it could be, and maybe even the screen. The 120hz is real nice though. It's all personal preference really. I'm a Samsung guy but have been trying other phones because, well, why not. I'm by far not an expert, but I most certainly will share my opinion with you. My friend did mention that his tends to get hot, really hot. Keep that in mind.
Pollie81 said:
Pixel has a different sensor for the ultra wide. For the others i can't comment on that but it seems they are at least very close to each when it comes to picture quality.
It's so strange that the price difference in the world is so big. Here in the Netherlands the zenfone 8 is more expensive compared to the Pixel 5.
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The wide camera sensor in ZF8 is the same as main in Pixel. At least I read that.
KaydenMcCurdyTech said:
I can't say much on the phone as I've not used one yet, but from my own research and a friend whose ordered one, I can give me opinion. The specs are great, I think it exceeds in every category, but the camera. I don't the camera is as good as it could be, and maybe even the screen. The 120hz is real nice though. It's all personal preference really. I'm a Samsung guy but have been trying other phones because, well, why not. I'm by far not an expert, but I most certainly will share my opinion with you. My friend did mention that his tends to get hot, really hot. Keep that in mind.
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Barely felt any heat so far. When exactly does it get hot for your friend?
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Undead_Son said:
Barely felt any heat so far. When exactly does it get hot for your friend?
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Anything that runs the CPU/GPU high. You have to enable performance mode (or custom mode for max performance/temp limit) to let it get hot though. Case mitigates its feel to an extent.
And it can get burning hot, try it on any 3d game.
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Anything that runs the CPU/GPU high. You have to enable performance mode (or custom mode for max performance/temp limit) to let it get hot though. Case mitigates its feel to an extent.
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Ah that explains it, thanks
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Anything that runs the CPU/GPU high. You have to enable performance mode (or custom mode for max performance/temp limit) to let it get hot though. Case mitigates its feel to an extent.
And it can get burning hot, try it on any 3d game.
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That really riddles me. So there are non gaming phones that do not get hot in similar settings? Especially during summer?
Hello,
I'm currently a Rog Phone 5 user who is looking to get a new secondary device. There's so many options out there but I'm stuck between the Mi 11 Ultra, Honor Magic 3 Pro Plus & Huawei P50 Pro.
Main thing for me is battery life & speaker quality. I've seen YouTube battery tests with the mi11 ultra & they look below average or average at best. But these videos on YouTube are few months old & obviously the mi11 ultra has had software updates which I hope have increased battery performance. I know the battery life isn't as good as my Rog Phone 5, but, how good is the actually battery with the latest update(s)? I'm not a gamer. But I do use camera, YouTube, web browsing & maps frequently. Also, I heard the speakers are great, how good are they compared to the Rog phone 5?
The Huawei p50 Pro only has 1 review because it's based in China only ATM (I can import it though). But, that review says that it heats up alot and the video recording is underwhelming. I'm not going to go by DXO mark as they have strange rankings My only other option is the Honor Magic 3 Pro Plus but the price tag on that (£1150) just isn't justified as I can pick up the mi 11 Ultra for £650 brand new (256gb/8gb) Model. Furthermore, there's no reviews of the Magic 3 Pro Plus at all whatsoever.
If someone could tell me about the mi11 ultra battery life in the following scenarios that would be highly appreciated & please bear in mind that my area doesn't have 5g so all scenarios below are with 4g & 3g connectivity:
120hz+WQHD ?
120hz+FHD+?
60hz+WQHD?
60hz+FHD+?
Also, is there a 90hz option for the mi 11 Ultra?
Does the mi 11 Ultra get warm/hot with light usage? By light usage I mean by just using YouTube or browsing the web. My Rog 5 reaches 30 degrees by just using YouTube or web browsing but I've been told this is normal.
Are the speakers good (how good compared to Rog 5)?
Are the cameras as good as everyone says (Photos, videos, night photos)?
How is the software update support (frequent updates)?
If you had a choice, would you keep your mi11 ultra or swap it for a Huawei p50 Pro or honor magic 3 pro plus?
Anyone wishing they never bought the mi11 ultra?
Last but not least, what are the negatives & positives of the mi 11 Ultra?
I highly appreciate you taking the time to read this post & for your kind feedback. I look forward to seeing what you guys have to say
The only thing better than the rog phone 5 is probably the camera + screen
120hz+wqhd+4g can last about 6h on screen, with medium gaming time
Camera is very good (of course rog5 cant have a Chance)
Light use the phone with warm up a bit
Cons: problem with too large sensor of camera, img easily got blur at edge
Thanos88 said:
Hello,
I'm currently a Rog Phone 5 user who is looking to get a new secondary device. There's so many options out there but I'm stuck between the Mi 11 Ultra, Honor Magic 3 Pro Plus & Huawei P50 Pro.
Main thing for me is battery life & speaker quality. I've seen YouTube battery tests with the mi11 ultra & they look below average or average at best. But these videos on YouTube are few months old & obviously the mi11 ultra has had software updates which I hope have increased battery performance. I know the battery life isn't as good as my Rog Phone 5, but, how good is the actually battery with the latest update(s)? I'm not a gamer. But I do use camera, YouTube, web browsing & maps frequently. Also, I heard the speakers are great, how good are they compared to the Rog phone 5?
The Huawei p50 Pro only has 1 review because it's based in China only ATM (I can import it though). But, that review says that it heats up alot and the video recording is underwhelming. I'm not going to go by DXO mark as they have strange rankings My only other option is the Honor Magic 3 Pro Plus but the price tag on that (£1150) just isn't justified as I can pick up the mi 11 Ultra for £650 brand new (256gb/8gb) Model. Furthermore, there's no reviews of the Magic 3 Pro Plus at all whatsoever.
If someone could tell me about the mi11 ultra battery life in the following scenarios that would be highly appreciated & please bear in mind that my area doesn't have 5g so all scenarios below are with 4g & 3g connectivity:
120hz+WQHD ?
120hz+FHD+?
60hz+WQHD?
60hz+FHD+?
Also, is there a 90hz option for the mi 11 Ultra?
Does the mi 11 Ultra get warm/hot with light usage? By light usage I mean by just using YouTube or browsing the web. My Rog 5 reaches 30 degrees by just using YouTube or web browsing but I've been told this is normal.
Are the speakers good (how good compared to Rog 5)?
Are the cameras as good as everyone says (Photos, videos, night photos)?
How is the software update support (frequent updates)?
If you had a choice, would you keep your mi11 ultra or swap it for a Huawei p50 Pro or honor magic 3 pro plus?
Anyone wishing they never bought the mi11 ultra?
Last but not least, what are the negatives & positives of the mi 11 Ultra?
I highly appreciate you taking the time to read this post & for your kind feedback. I look forward to seeing what you guys have to say
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You will get 6.5 hours to 7 hours SOT if you use the entire battery from 100% to 1% this is on 120Hz+WQHD
But this also depends upon when do you use the device. For example if you charge it and straight away use it for an extended period of time, you will obviously get a better SOT. If you charge it and keep it overnight standby, and then use it intermittently with brief periods of dozes obviously you will get less SOT. That said you will get atleast a day of usage and then some, if you don't game a lot. Camera drains the battery like crazy. So that's another variable.
Heat-I don't know what expectations you have from your phone but the normal operating temperature for this phone and Snapdragon 888 chips in general is 32-40 degree Celsius in normal usage. It fluctuates. Heat dissipation is excellent and hence you feel the surface and chassis getting hot. On charging the temperatures reach 40-42 degrees in later stages. Haven't gamed on this phone, but on camera usage, the temperature easily reaches 47-48 degree Celsius within 10-15 min of usage. Beyond 47 degrees it warns you the exposure won't work unless you cool down the phone, you can still use the camera but do so at your own risk. At this point if you are using this phone without a cover or case, it will become unbearable to hold specially the metal frame and also top back of the phone where the camera module is. All this ofcourse varies with ambient temperatures and I have provided an account with ambient temperature of 35-38 degree Celsius.
It has excellent speakers bested only by your own device the ROG phone 5. So for anyone else it would be an upgrade but for you it might feel like a downgrade if you compare side by side. There is no proper vent for top speaker, it is actually a dual eapiece speaker set. The grill on the top is just for aesthetics.
Cameras are the reason we all are with this device and they are exceptional. The most versatile camera system this year. Coming from ROG phone 5 it would seem like a massive massive upgrade.
Software is the Achilles Heal of this device. MIUI is a great ROM but notorious for its bugs. The updates are few and far in between. Compare it to any other smartphone launched this year and it falls far behind when it comes to Software Support. Ofcourse this varies by region, China for example gets weekly updates, India for example has recieve only one update since the July launch here. Compare this to OnePlus 9Pro which has received excess of 3 updates within one month. Most people switch their ROM to Xiaomi dot EU or China ROM.
Do I regret buying this phone - No because it was an excellent bang for the buck. I chose this over OnePlus 9 Pro, Samsung S21+, Vivo x60pro+ and iPhone 12. It was cheapest of them all with better feature set. The only lacking feature in Mi 11 Ultra was lack of variable refresh rate/LTPO display so the display is locked between 120Hz and 60Hz. This adds to heating, and worsens the battery life. If it had LTPO display like others I don't think this phone would be having any deficiency compared to others and the battery life would truly feel like the one we should get with a 5k mAh battery.
Does that mean I am very satisfied with my purchase? No. My two biggest qualms are the Heat and the software support or lack thereof. Indian MIUI is a bit buggy but nothing major. Bugs like Dark Mode-q patching white text black on black background in a couple of apps, calender unable to calculate date interval. Minor stuff. But there has been no update to fix or limit the heating issues and it seems the only update we will get this year is the MIUI Enhanced Edition update that will have different performance mode using which we can limit some heat. This and maybe MIUI 13 by the end of the year.
I can't comment on the other two devices as they are not available here, but having used Flagships before (OnePlus) my no 1 requirement was Camera. But also the package as a whole. If another phone had better feature set and cameras in the price range I was looking for would have certainly opted for it. Like Vivo had excellent cameras but no IP rating, inferior display protections, smaller battery for exact same price here. So although the cameras were excellent I didn't opt for it mainly because of these issues as well as lack of commitment from Vivo to provide 3 years or even 2 years of updates. Also community support has been excellent for Xiaomi Phones and very poor for Vivo, you can check here on XDA.
Hope this helps.
shalabhvickysom said:
You will get 6.5 hours to 7 hours SOT if you use the entire battery from 100% to 1% this is on 120Hz+WQHD
But this also depends upon when do you use the device. For example if you charge it and straight away use it for an extended period of time, you will obviously get a better SOT. If you charge it and keep it overnight standby, and then use it intermittently with brief periods of dozes obviously you will get less SOT. That said you will get atleast a day of usage and then some, if you don't game a lot. Camera drains the battery like crazy. So that's another variable.
Heat-I don't know what expectations you have from your phone but the normal operating temperature for this phone and Snapdragon 888 chips in general is 32-40 degree Celsius in normal usage. It fluctuates. Heat dissipation is excellent and hence you feel the surface and chassis getting hot. On charging the temperatures reach 40-42 degrees in later stages. Haven't gamed on this phone, but on camera usage, the temperature easily reaches 47-48 degree Celsius within 10-15 min of usage. Beyond 47 degrees it warns you the exposure won't work unless you cool down the phone, you can still use the camera but do so at your own risk. At this point if you are using this phone without a cover or case, it will become unbearable to hold specially the metal frame and also top back of the phone where the camera module is. All this ofcourse varies with ambient temperatures and I have provided an account with ambient temperature of 35-38 degree Celsius.
It has excellent speakers bested only by your own device the ROG phone 5. So for anyone else it would be an upgrade but for you it might feel like a downgrade if you compare side by side. There is no proper vent for top speaker, it is actually a dual eapiece speaker set. The grill on the top is just for aesthetics.
Cameras are the reason we all are with this device and they are exceptional. The most versatile camera system this year. Coming from ROG phone 5 it would seem like a massive massive upgrade.
Software is the Achilles Heal of this device. MIUI is a great ROM but notorious for its bugs. The updates are few and far in between. Compare it to any other smartphone launched this year and it falls far behind when it comes to Software Support. Ofcourse this varies by region, China for example gets weekly updates, India for example has recieve only one update since the July launch here. Compare this to OnePlus 9Pro which has received excess of 3 updates within one month. Most people switch their ROM to Xiaomi dot EU or China ROM.
Do I regret buying this phone - No because it was an excellent bang for the buck. I chose this over OnePlus 9 Pro, Samsung S21+, Vivo x60pro+ and iPhone 12. It was cheapest of them all with better feature set. The only lacking feature in Mi 11 Ultra was lack of variable refresh rate/LTPO display so the display is locked between 120Hz and 60Hz. This adds to heating, and worsens the battery life. If it had LTPO display like others I don't think this phone would be having any deficiency compared to others and the battery life would truly feel like the one we should get with a 5k mAh battery.
Does that mean I am very satisfied with my purchase? No. My two biggest qualms are the Heat and the software support or lack thereof. Indian MIUI is a bit buggy but nothing major. Bugs like Dark Mode-q patching white text black on black background in a couple of apps, calender unable to calculate date interval. Minor stuff. But there has been no update to fix or limit the heating issues and it seems the only update we will get this year is the MIUI Enhanced Edition update that will have different performance mode using which we can limit some heat. This and maybe MIUI 13 by the end of the year.
I can't comment on the other two devices as they are not available here, but having used Flagships before (OnePlus) my no 1 requirement was Camera. But also the package as a whole. If another phone had better feature set and cameras in the price range I was looking for would have certainly opted for it. Like Vivo had excellent cameras but no IP rating, inferior display protections, smaller battery for exact same price here. So although the cameras were excellent I didn't opt for it mainly because of these issues as well as lack of commitment from Vivo to provide 3 years or even 2 years of updates. Also community support has been excellent for Xiaomi Phones and very poor for Vivo, you can check here on XDA.
Hope this helps.
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Thank you very much for this thorough and detailed response you've basically made my mind up for me and I won't be purchasing it. Heat is concerning as it seems that it heats up more than the Rog 5. I highly appreciate your response, many many thanks
hungragezone said:
120hz+wqhd+4g can last about 6h on screen, with medium gaming time
Camera is very good (of course rog5 cant have a Chance)
Light use the phone with warm up a bit
Cons: problem with too large sensor of camera, img easily got blur at edge
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Thank you
speedtripler said:
The only thing better than the rog phone 5 is probably the camera + screen
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Thank you
shalabhvickysom said:
You will get 6.5 hours to 7 hours SOT if you use the entire battery from 100% to 1% this is on 120Hz+WQHD
But this also depends upon when do you use the device. For example if you charge it and straight away use it for an extended period of time, you will obviously get a better SOT. If you charge it and keep it overnight standby, and then use it intermittently with brief periods of dozes obviously you will get less SOT. That said you will get atleast a day of usage and then some, if you don't game a lot. Camera drains the battery like crazy. So that's another variable.
Heat-I don't know what expectations you have from your phone but the normal operating temperature for this phone and Snapdragon 888 chips in general is 32-40 degree Celsius in normal usage. It fluctuates. Heat dissipation is excellent and hence you feel the surface and chassis getting hot. On charging the temperatures reach 40-42 degrees in later stages. Haven't gamed on this phone, but on camera usage, the temperature easily reaches 47-48 degree Celsius within 10-15 min of usage. Beyond 47 degrees it warns you the exposure won't work unless you cool down the phone, you can still use the camera but do so at your own risk. At this point if you are using this phone without a cover or case, it will become unbearable to hold specially the metal frame and also top back of the phone where the camera module is. All this ofcourse varies with ambient temperatures and I have provided an account with ambient temperature of 35-38 degree Celsius.
It has excellent speakers bested only by your own device the ROG phone 5. So for anyone else it would be an upgrade but for you it might feel like a downgrade if you compare side by side. There is no proper vent for top speaker, it is actually a dual eapiece speaker set. The grill on the top is just for aesthetics.
Cameras are the reason we all are with this device and they are exceptional. The most versatile camera system this year. Coming from ROG phone 5 it would seem like a massive massive upgrade.
Software is the Achilles Heal of this device. MIUI is a great ROM but notorious for its bugs. The updates are few and far in between. Compare it to any other smartphone launched this year and it falls far behind when it comes to Software Support. Ofcourse this varies by region, China for example gets weekly updates, India for example has recieve only one update since the July launch here. Compare this to OnePlus 9Pro which has received excess of 3 updates within one month. Most people switch their ROM to Xiaomi dot EU or China ROM.
Do I regret buying this phone - No because it was an excellent bang for the buck. I chose this over OnePlus 9 Pro, Samsung S21+, Vivo x60pro+ and iPhone 12. It was cheapest of them all with better feature set. The only lacking feature in Mi 11 Ultra was lack of variable refresh rate/LTPO display so the display is locked between 120Hz and 60Hz. This adds to heating, and worsens the battery life. If it had LTPO display like others I don't think this phone would be having any deficiency compared to others and the battery life would truly feel like the one we should get with a 5k mAh battery.
Does that mean I am very satisfied with my purchase? No. My two biggest qualms are the Heat and the software support or lack thereof. Indian MIUI is a bit buggy but nothing major. Bugs like Dark Mode-q patching white text black on black background in a couple of apps, calender unable to calculate date interval. Minor stuff. But there has been no update to fix or limit the heating issues and it seems the only update we will get this year is the MIUI Enhanced Edition update that will have different performance mode using which we can limit some heat. This and maybe MIUI 13 by the end of the year.
I can't comment on the other two devices as they are not available here, but having used Flagships before (OnePlus) my no 1 requirement was Camera. But also the package as a whole. If another phone had better feature set and cameras in the price range I was looking for would have certainly opted for it. Like Vivo had excellent cameras but no IP rating, inferior display protections, smaller battery for exact same price here. So although the cameras were excellent I didn't opt for it mainly because of these issues as well as lack of commitment from Vivo to provide 3 years or even 2 years of updates. Also community support has been excellent for Xiaomi Phones and very poor for Vivo, you can check here on XDA.
Hope this helps.
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U r wrong with "the display is locked between 120Hz and 60Hz". It will be variable depend on what app u r using. So people have some trick to make the display stick with 120Hz all the time
shalabhvickysom said:
You will get 6.5 hours to 7 hours SOT if you use the entire battery from 100% to 1% this is on 120Hz+WQHD
But this also depends upon when do you use the device. For example if you charge it and straight away use it for an extended period of time, you will obviously get a better SOT. If you charge it and keep it overnight standby, and then use it intermittently with brief periods of dozes obviously you will get less SOT. That said you will get atleast a day of usage and then some, if you don't game a lot. Camera drains the battery like crazy. So that's another variable.
Heat-I don't know what expectations you have from your phone but the normal operating temperature for this phone and Snapdragon 888 chips in general is 32-40 degree Celsius in normal usage. It fluctuates. Heat dissipation is excellent and hence you feel the surface and chassis getting hot. On charging the temperatures reach 40-42 degrees in later stages. Haven't gamed on this phone, but on camera usage, the temperature easily reaches 47-48 degree Celsius within 10-15 min of usage. Beyond 47 degrees it warns you the exposure won't work unless you cool down the phone, you can still use the camera but do so at your own risk. At this point if you are using this phone without a cover or case, it will become unbearable to hold specially the metal frame and also top back of the phone where the camera module is. All this ofcourse varies with ambient temperatures and I have provided an account with ambient temperature of 35-38 degree Celsius.
It has excellent speakers bested only by your own device the ROG phone 5. So for anyone else it would be an upgrade but for you it might feel like a downgrade if you compare side by side. There is no proper vent for top speaker, it is actually a dual eapiece speaker set. The grill on the top is just for aesthetics.
Cameras are the reason we all are with this device and they are exceptional. The most versatile camera system this year. Coming from ROG phone 5 it would seem like a massive massive upgrade.
Software is the Achilles Heal of this device. MIUI is a great ROM but notorious for its bugs. The updates are few and far in between. Compare it to any other smartphone launched this year and it falls far behind when it comes to Software Support. Ofcourse this varies by region, China for example gets weekly updates, India for example has recieve only one update since the July launch here. Compare this to OnePlus 9Pro which has received excess of 3 updates within one month. Most people switch their ROM to Xiaomi dot EU or China ROM.
Do I regret buying this phone - No because it was an excellent bang for the buck. I chose this over OnePlus 9 Pro, Samsung S21+, Vivo x60pro+ and iPhone 12. It was cheapest of them all with better feature set. The only lacking feature in Mi 11 Ultra was lack of variable refresh rate/LTPO display so the display is locked between 120Hz and 60Hz. This adds to heating, and worsens the battery life. If it had LTPO display like others I don't think this phone would be having any deficiency compared to others and the battery life would truly feel like the one we should get with a 5k mAh battery.
Does that mean I am very satisfied with my purchase? No. My two biggest qualms are the Heat and the software support or lack thereof. Indian MIUI is a bit buggy but nothing major. Bugs like Dark Mode-q patching white text black on black background in a couple of apps, calender unable to calculate date interval. Minor stuff. But there has been no update to fix or limit the heating issues and it seems the only update we will get this year is the MIUI Enhanced Edition update that will have different performance mode using which we can limit some heat. This and maybe MIUI 13 by the end of the year.
I can't comment on the other two devices as they are not available here, but having used Flagships before (OnePlus) my no 1 requirement was Camera. But also the package as a whole. If another phone had better feature set and cameras in the price range I was looking for would have certainly opted for it. Like Vivo had excellent cameras but no IP rating, inferior display protections, smaller battery for exact same price here. So although the cameras were excellent I didn't opt for it mainly because of these issues as well as lack of commitment from Vivo to provide 3 years or even 2 years of updates. Also community support has been excellent for Xiaomi Phones and very poor for Vivo, you can check here on XDA.
Hope this helps.
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I thought the display is variable from 30hz 60hz to 120hz on what content is on the screen
shalabhvickysom said:
You will get 6.5 hours to 7 hours SOT if you use the entire battery from 100% to 1% this is on 120Hz+WQHD
But this also depends upon when do you use the device. For example if you charge it and straight away use it for an extended period of time, you will obviously get a better SOT. If you charge it and keep it overnight standby, and then use it intermittently with brief periods of dozes obviously you will get less SOT. That said you will get atleast a day of usage and then some, if you don't game a lot. Camera drains the battery like crazy. So that's another variable.
Heat-I don't know what expectations you have from your phone but the normal operating temperature for this phone and Snapdragon 888 chips in general is 32-40 degree Celsius in normal usage. It fluctuates. Heat dissipation is excellent and hence you feel the surface and chassis getting hot. On charging the temperatures reach 40-42 degrees in later stages. Haven't gamed on this phone, but on camera usage, the temperature easily reaches 47-48 degree Celsius within 10-15 min of usage. Beyond 47 degrees it warns you the exposure won't work unless you cool down the phone, you can still use the camera but do so at your own risk. At this point if you are using this phone without a cover or case, it will become unbearable to hold specially the metal frame and also top back of the phone where the camera module is. All this ofcourse varies with ambient temperatures and I have provided an account with ambient temperature of 35-38 degree Celsius.
It has excellent speakers bested only by your own device the ROG phone 5. So for anyone else it would be an upgrade but for you it might feel like a downgrade if you compare side by side. There is no proper vent for top speaker, it is actually a dual eapiece speaker set. The grill on the top is just for aesthetics.
Cameras are the reason we all are with this device and they are exceptional. The most versatile camera system this year. Coming from ROG phone 5 it would seem like a massive massive upgrade.
Software is the Achilles Heal of this device. MIUI is a great ROM but notorious for its bugs. The updates are few and far in between. Compare it to any other smartphone launched this year and it falls far behind when it comes to Software Support. Ofcourse this varies by region, China for example gets weekly updates, India for example has recieve only one update since the July launch here. Compare this to OnePlus 9Pro which has received excess of 3 updates within one month. Most people switch their ROM to Xiaomi dot EU or China ROM.
Do I regret buying this phone - No because it was an excellent bang for the buck. I chose this over OnePlus 9 Pro, Samsung S21+, Vivo x60pro+ and iPhone 12. It was cheapest of them all with better feature set. The only lacking feature in Mi 11 Ultra was lack of variable refresh rate/LTPO display so the display is locked between 120Hz and 60Hz. This adds to heating, and worsens the battery life. If it had LTPO display like others I don't think this phone would be having any deficiency compared to others and the battery life would truly feel like the one we should get with a 5k mAh battery.
Does that mean I am very satisfied with my purchase? No. My two biggest qualms are the Heat and the software support or lack thereof. Indian MIUI is a bit buggy but nothing major. Bugs like Dark Mode-q patching white text black on black background in a couple of apps, calender unable to calculate date interval. Minor stuff. But there has been no update to fix or limit the heating issues and it seems the only update we will get this year is the MIUI Enhanced Edition update that will have different performance mode using which we can limit some heat. This and maybe MIUI 13 by the end of the year.
I can't comment on the other two devices as they are not available here, but having used Flagships before (OnePlus) my no 1 requirement was Camera. But also the package as a whole. If another phone had better feature set and cameras in the price range I was looking for would have certainly opted for it. Like Vivo had excellent cameras but no IP rating, inferior display protections, smaller battery for exact same price here. So although the cameras were excellent I didn't opt for it mainly because of these issues as well as lack of commitment from Vivo to provide 3 years or even 2 years of updates. Also community support has been excellent for Xiaomi Phones and very poor for Vivo, you can check here on XDA.
Hope this helps.
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Couldn't say it any better. That's my thoughts exactly. One more thing i noticed is the signal reception. If the reception is average or below don't expect to make the day. I worked on a place with below average 4g and 3g signal, without changing my habits of usage the battery was 25-30% around 15:00 in the afternoon. It was so bad that i ordered a battery case to double it's battery life so i can get home without running out of battery. On my new site i'm getting home with 65-70% at about 19:00 in the evening with the very same usage as everyday. So the phone is very signal dependant. More than any other device i've had. But if you're on wifi or usually in areas with proper reception you shouldn't have any problems.
Definitely not a battery life champion phone
I always make the same use of my phones, and the M11U has better battery life than my previous Oneplus 7T Pro and Huawei Mate 20 Pro.
battery last about half (if not less) than my p30 pro did
themissionimpossible said:
I always make the same use of my phones, and the M11U has better battery life than my previous Oneplus 7T Pro and Huawei Mate 20 Pro.
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Bigger battery tho
Thanos88 said:
Hello,
I'm currently a Rog Phone 5 user who is looking to get a new secondary device. There's so many options out there but I'm stuck between the Mi 11 Ultra, Honor Magic 3 Pro Plus & Huawei P50 Pro.
Main thing for me is battery life & speaker quality. I've seen YouTube battery tests with the mi11 ultra & they look below average or average at best. But these videos on YouTube are few months old & obviously the mi11 ultra has had software updates which I hope have increased battery performance. I know the battery life isn't as good as my Rog Phone 5, but, how good is the actually battery with the latest update(s)? I'm not a gamer. But I do use camera, YouTube, web browsing & maps frequently. Also, I heard the speakers are great, how good are they compared to the Rog phone 5?
The Huawei p50 Pro only has 1 review because it's based in China only ATM (I can import it though). But, that review says that it heats up alot and the video recording is underwhelming. I'm not going to go by DXO mark as they have strange rankings My only other option is the Honor Magic 3 Pro Plus but the price tag on that (£1150) just isn't justified as I can pick up the mi 11 Ultra for £650 brand new (256gb/8gb) Model. Furthermore, there's no reviews of the Magic 3 Pro Plus at all whatsoever.
If someone could tell me about the mi11 ultra battery life in the following scenarios that would be highly appreciated & please bear in mind that my area doesn't have 5g so all scenarios below are with 4g & 3g connectivity:
120hz+WQHD ?
120hz+FHD+?
60hz+WQHD?
60hz+FHD+?
Also, is there a 90hz option for the mi 11 Ultra?
Does the mi 11 Ultra get warm/hot with light usage? By light usage I mean by just using YouTube or browsing the web. My Rog 5 reaches 30 degrees by just using YouTube or web browsing but I've been told this is normal.
Are the speakers good (how good compared to Rog 5)?
Are the cameras as good as everyone says (Photos, videos, night photos)?
How is the software update support (frequent updates)?
If you had a choice, would you keep your mi11 ultra or swap it for a Huawei p50 Pro or honor magic 3 pro plus?
Anyone wishing they never bought the mi11 ultra?
Last but not least, what are the negatives & positives of the mi 11 Ultra?
I highly appreciate you taking the time to read this post & for your kind feedback. I look forward to seeing what you guys have to say
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Battery is **** considering this is a flagship phone. Luckily I didn't pay flagship price, as I imported it. But if I did, I'd be really pissed.
Camera is the best I've ever seen and used
Yes, it does get warm/hot while using and while charging. You also get battery drain when that happens.
Speakers are outstandingly loud and clear
I'm using xiaomi.eu ROMs, so I'm happy with the updates
If I had the choice, I'd keep my mi 11 ultra
Thanos88 said:
Hello,
I'm currently a Rog Phone 5 user who is looking to get a new secondary device. There's so many options out there but I'm stuck between the Mi 11 Ultra, Honor Magic 3 Pro Plus & Huawei P50 Pro.
Main thing for me is battery life & speaker quality. I've seen YouTube battery tests with the mi11 ultra & they look below average or average at best. But these videos on YouTube are few months old & obviously the mi11 ultra has had software updates which I hope have increased battery performance. I know the battery life isn't as good as my Rog Phone 5, but, how good is the actually battery with the latest update(s)? I'm not a gamer. But I do use camera, YouTube, web browsing & maps frequently. Also, I heard the speakers are great, how good are they compared to the Rog phone 5?
The Huawei p50 Pro only has 1 review because it's based in China only ATM (I can import it though). But, that review says that it heats up alot and the video recording is underwhelming. I'm not going to go by DXO mark as they have strange rankings My only other option is the Honor Magic 3 Pro Plus but the price tag on that (£1150) just isn't justified as I can pick up the mi 11 Ultra for £650 brand new (256gb/8gb) Model. Furthermore, there's no reviews of the Magic 3 Pro Plus at all whatsoever.
If someone could tell me about the mi11 ultra battery life in the following scenarios that would be highly appreciated & please bear in mind that my area doesn't have 5g so all scenarios below are with 4g & 3g connectivity:
120hz+WQHD ?
120hz+FHD+?
60hz+WQHD?
60hz+FHD+?
Also, is there a 90hz option for the mi 11 Ultra?
Does the mi 11 Ultra get warm/hot with light usage? By light usage I mean by just using YouTube or browsing the web. My Rog 5 reaches 30 degrees by just using YouTube or web browsing but I've been told this is normal.
Are the speakers good (how good compared to Rog 5)?
Are the cameras as good as everyone says (Photos, videos, night photos)?
How is the software update support (frequent updates)?
If you had a choice, would you keep your mi11 ultra or swap it for a Huawei p50 Pro or honor magic 3 pro plus?
Anyone wishing they never bought the mi11 ultra?
Last but not least, what are the negatives & positives of the mi 11 Ultra?
I highly appreciate you taking the time to read this post & for your kind feedback. I look forward to seeing what you guys have to say
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The mi 11 Ultra is a fantastic phone. But in my opinion the best Android phone you can buy right now is the Pixel 6 Pro.
The smart fe game changer. I'm pretty blown away.
What's so great about it?
xNAPx said:
What's so great about it?
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Not much , 2 hour charging lol
Honestly looking around I can't see better device than this Mi11 Ultra for 2021
I haven't seen a significantly better phone yet in every area
There's the odd phone that does 1 thing better but nearly everything else is sub par
If I saw a better phone id buy it but there's literally nothing on the market yet