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November 13th Update - Anyone Had Anything Yet?

A few days ago www.wired.com and www.mobilephonereviewsuk.com both reported that there was likely to be a fairly sizeable update coming for the N5 today.
So I thought I would start a thread for this.
http://www.mobilephonereviewsuk.com/nexus-5-firmware-update-coming-week-possibly-wednesday/
Apparently Google Now will get even smarter than it currently is, with the voice-based assistant getting some sort of answering back features. Furthermore, Google Now will be able to search apps and launch them to perform tasks and show more Google Now cards based on the user’s location:
But the stuff Google says is coming November 13 is the real gravy, and it’s a shame it isn’t already ladled on. One of those things is the ability to ask you questions — so you might say “text Jennifer” and it will reply “which Jennifer,” and then ask you to dictate the message. It’s also going to get the ability to search inside applications, and launch them to complete tasks for you. So, you might search for a restaurant, and an option in the results shows up for OpenTable, which you’ll be able to fire up and make a reservation. It’s also going to use location cues to drop cards into Google Now, even more so than it does currently. At Yellowstone it will show you geyser times, for example. Sadly, none of this stuff was lit up yet, so I wasn’t able to test it. I’m not dinging the phone for that (and it’s not getting any extra credit), but given how interesting these features are, it’s kind of crazy the phone launched without them.
Mathew Honan
Wired
As we have recently learned, the Nexus 5 is more about Google Search services (Google Now included) than any other Nexus before it, not that it’s a bad thing, especially for Android users looking forward to such an Android experience. However, some of those Google Search feature – essentially the new launcher – will be a Nexus 5 exclusive for now, at least officially, so it’ll be interesting to see whether these new Google Now features will be available for everyone else or not.
However, we’re certainly not surprised to hear that Google Now is getting smarter. We’ll be waiting to see Google’s announcement next week to tell you more details about this apparently imminent Google Now update.
Wired has also learned that the Nexus 5 will get a camera update that will fix existing issues with it – check out these posts for camera comparisons with the Nexus 4 and the iPhone 5S.
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nothing here yet

Nothing here yet either!

I really hope that the next update will fix the current software issues too...

hmmm nothing here yet

just checked (at 11.12) and nothing

Oh boy, another rumor thread!
I will be shocked if Google fixes the camera issues this quickly. If it such an easy fix I do not understand why they would release the camera software the way it is currently.
Google just needs to by Kodak or some other company they can fix up. I am sure they can afford to purchase them and better camera's and software in phones is the future right now.

nothing

Google didn't announce a Nexus 5 update like they with the the 4, 7 & 10 yesterday. I doubt it's coming this week.

ratedr75 said:
A few days ago www.wired.com and www.mobilephonereviewsuk.com both reported that there was likely to be a fairly sizeable update coming for the N5 today.
So I thought I would start a thread for this.
http://www.mobilephonereviewsuk.com/nexus-5-firmware-update-coming-week-possibly-wednesday/
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"On November 13, Felix Unger was asked to remove himself from his place of residence. That request came from his wife. Deep down, he knew she was right, but he also knew that someday, he would return to her. With nowhere else to go, he appeared at the home of his childhood friend, Oscar Madison. Sometime earlier, Madison's wife had thrown him out, requesting that he never return. Can two divorced men share an apartment without driving each other crazy?"

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"On November 13, Felix Unger was asked to remove himself from his place of residence. That request came from his wife. Deep down, he knew she was right, but he also knew that someday, he would return to her. With nowhere else to go, he appeared at the home of his childhood friend, Oscar Madison. Sometime earlier, Madison's wife had thrown him out, requesting that he never return. Can two divorced men share an apartment without driving each other crazy?"
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Maybe I am a little slow but I do not get the connection.....
Anyway, the new rumor is that Nexus 5 will be released on November 28th because Kit-Kat posted a picture of a Turkey weighing 28lbs! That is the release date and I am sticking to it!

I will be very surprised if we get an update today or even this month.

Has anyone received the Google Assistant update yet?

I'm currently running Pure Nexus and like many/most custom roms it has GA enabled but the other 2 phones in my house are stock Nexus 6P's and neither have received the update yet. One I signed up for the beta program and it downloaded and installed the 7.1.2 beta but no GA. Then I read today that it'll be a Google Play Services update that enables GA across MM/Nougat devices so I updated Play Services to the latest beta and still no GA. So, what do you know, what do you hear?? My wife and son really want GA but want to stay stock. Their tired of me messing with their phones.

Running stock, no root. Latest GPS and Google App and nothing

Imadroider said:
I'm currently running Pure Nexus and like many/most custom roms it has GA enabled but the other 2 phones in my house are stock Nexus 6P's and neither have received the update yet. One I signed up for the beta program and it downloaded and installed the 7.1.2 beta but no GA. Then I read today that it'll be a Google Play Services update that enables GA across MM/Nougat devices so I updated Play Services to the latest beta and still no GA. So, what do you know, what do you hear?? My wife and son really want GA but want to stay stock. Their tired of me messing with their phones.
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I am enrolled in the beta program... Running Pure Nexus... 2-15...
I clean flashes the other day after thinking about switching Roms... And for the first time I did not have to revert the build.prop line to train the assistant...
Google App 6.14.12.21.arm

korky0429 said:
Running stock, no root. Latest GPS and Google App and nothing
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Thanks for the reply. Kind of strange that a weekend ago Google announced it wound start hitting capable phone starting last week in the US first yet it seems no one has received the update.

I'm on a Nexus 6P, never rooted, in the Beta program with 7.1.2. I'm also in the Google Play Services beta program. I have installed the Pixel Launcher from APK but otherwise stock. So far no Assistant. Live in the US.

Still no assistant here either. Are we missing something, or has Google not actually released the update like they said they would? I don't know of anyone that has actually received it to this point.

It's a server side switch and in typical Google form, they are turning it on very slowly. These trickle rollouts of new features are ridiculous. Either it's ready for release or it's not. If it is, release it to everyone. If it's not, then don't announce anything until it's ready.

HankStorm said:
It's a server side switch and in typical Google form, they are turning it on very slowly. These trickle rollouts of new features are ridiculous. Either it's ready for release or it's not. If it is, release it to everyone. If it's not, then don't announce anything until it's ready.
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I have been searching for anyone who has had it turned on. I follow a FB forum as well where every little update usually gets posted. Nothing there yet either. Hearing of others getting it turned on would at least be encouraging.

calec70 said:
I have been searching for anyone who has had it turned on. I follow a FB forum as well where every little update usually gets posted. Nothing there yet either. Hearing of others getting it turned on would at least be encouraging.
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Thats what I was thinking. A week ago the tech sites were a buzz with "Google Assistant coming to most 6.0+ phones this week". Then nothing. All week. I'm still wondering a full week later why the tech sites are almost silent and no one is asking "Ok Google, what gives".

Imadroider said:
Thats what I was thinking. A week ago the tech sites were a buzz with "Google Assistant coming to most 6.0+ phones this week". Then nothing. All week. I'm still wondering a full week later why the tech sites are almost silent and no one is asking "Ok Google, what gives".
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Someone in the FB group received Assistant about an hour after installing the latest Google App beta APK. I just tried it. Probably a coincidence, but at least someone has reported getting Assistant.

Isn't this linked to the google play services apk? If someone gets it, wouldn't posting the apk give it to all of us?

dragonash said:
Isn't this linked to the google play services apk? If someone gets it, wouldn't posting the apk give it to all of us?
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You have to have the correct Play Services but Google still has to "turn it on" on their end. That seems to be what is taking so long. As long as your Play Services are up to date you should be good. I entered the beta program for that as well. Still no Assistant though.

Mine was activated yesterday, right around the time I updated to the 7.1.1 March security patch. Don't know if there's a direct relation though.

I just got it today, I had everything updated and it showed up on its own.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA-Developers Legacy app

Just got it a little bit ago.

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Just got it a little bit ago.
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Yay:victory:
Thanks for the replies everyone. Looks like we're very slowly but surely on our way. Still no GA love for the 2 stock 6P's in my house yet.
Edit: P.S. I didn't start this thread to complain, I was just wondering if I was the only one not receiving the GA update. I can only imagine what a mind blowing amount of mega giga google flops of computing power it must take for what must be thousands (if not tens of thousands) of questions per second via voice, interpret it, then send the answer back. All within a second or 2. For the thousands or tens or thousands of users asking/interacting at the same time. Mind boggling. It's probably a very slow rollout to be able to keep up and ramp up for the onslaught until they get a full picture of what the new computing/server farm needs will be.

My Nexus 6 has it, my wife's 6p does not.
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Just got it guys. Running LOs, Google app ver. 6.13.25.21, and Google Play Services ver. 10.2.99, location Kosovo. It feels great not to do so many workarounds just to have it

East coast rolled out 32GB.

Still Waiting as well
I am still waiting as well. February 5 Security Patch, Google(Beta) 6.14.14.21.arm and Play Services 10.2.98.
Like so many others I signed up for Play Services Beta, but unlike the others I never got a bump up (update), and Still have not received the March Security Update.
But I swear if I don't side load most things from Google I am the last to get them.

Switching from iPhone 11 Pro. Advice needed

Been using iPhones for a few years now. Getting bored of the iPhone 11 Pro and thinking of switching to pixel 4. Few things I need some comments on:
1. Face ID Authentication on apps. I use this almost for all apps in iphone including banking. It works flawlessly. I don’t think Face ID is available for the same apps on android. How big an issue will this be for me? May be it won’t be a big deal??
2. Mail app. I’ve used android in the past. No email app works like iOS mail app. I spent hours trying every android mail app. Hopefully outlook on android will close the gap
3. Battery life. Still debating on pixel 4 or XL. I don’t like big phones. But I heard bad stories about pixel 4’s poor batter life. How bad is it??
4. Podcasts app. Same story as mail app. Any good android podcasts app that’s comparable to apple podcasts
Main reasons for switching — sell iphone while it’s still worth the money. Getting a great deal on pixel now.
Pixel camera is still better then iphone. Plus google assistant. Siri is Not even close.
Anyone switched from iPhone 11 Pro? Comments welcome.
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vhl71 said:
Been using iPhones for a few years now. Getting bored of the iPhone 11 Pro and thinking of switching to pixel 4. Few things I need some comments on:
1. Face ID Authentication on apps. I use this almost for all apps in iphone including banking. It works flawlessly. I don’t think Face ID is available for the same apps on android. How big an issue will this be for me? May be it won’t be a big deal??
2. Mail app. I’ve used android in the past. No email app works like iOS mail app. I spent hours trying every android mail app. Hopefully outlook on android will close the gap
3. Battery life. Still debating on pixel 4 or XL. I don’t like big phones. But I heard bad stories about pixel 4’s poor batter life. How bad is it??
4. Podcasts app. Same story as mail app. Any good android podcasts app that’s comparable to apple podcasts
Main reasons for switching — sell iphone while it’s still worth the money. Getting a great deal on pixel now.
Pixel camera is still better then iphone. Plus google assistant. Siri is Not even close.
Anyone switched from iPhone 11 Pro? Comments welcome.
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Hey I'm an Android user, but have tried iPhone a few times. The iPhone 11 pro Max stuck for a while, but now back to Pixel 4 XL. Use an iPad pro as well.
1. Support for the face unlock has SLOWLY gotten better. I use Chase and they haven't updated the app to support the new biometric prompt API. Good read and updated list of apps here. https://9to5google.com/2020/04/16/pixel-4-face-unlock-apps-support/
2.Outlook for Android is great and my go to. Only thing that it's missing for me is that it doesn't sync the calendar with the Android native calendar. Nine is a great email app as well for exchange accounts.
3. I've never used the 4. Battery life for me is great on the XL.
4. Pocket Casts is great feature full podcast app. It had iOS app as well. Syncs perfect and instantly with iPad pro. I can pick up the iPad and continue listening where I was on the phone.
The current deal on Pixel is great. I hope this helps.

vhl71 said:
Been using iPhones for a few years now. Getting bored of the iPhone 11 Pro and thinking of switching to pixel 4. Few things I need some comments on:
1. Face ID Authentication on apps. I use this almost for all apps in iphone including banking. It works flawlessly. I don’t think Face ID is available for the same apps on android. How big an issue will this be for me? May be it won’t be a big deal??
2. Mail app. I’ve used android in the past. No email app works like iOS mail app. I spent hours trying every android mail app. Hopefully outlook on android will close the gap
3. Battery life. Still debating on pixel 4 or XL. I don’t like big phones. But I heard bad stories about pixel 4’s poor batter life. How bad is it??
4. Podcasts app. Same story as mail app. Any good android podcasts app that’s comparable to apple podcasts
Main reasons for switching — sell iphone while it’s still worth the money. Getting a great deal on pixel now.
Pixel camera is still better then iphone. Plus google assistant. Siri is Not even close.
Anyone switched from iPhone 11 Pro? Comments welcome.
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I'll reply since I own and use both phones.
1. Apple is years ahead on this front. There are barely any apps that support face unlock on Android so you can forget about anything close to the experience you get on the iPhone. With that said though, a good password manager authenticated by face unlock on the Pixel 4 XL combined with Android's auto-fill feature is a very close substitute. It's slower still, but not too bad at all. I use Enpass for this purpose.
2. Don't like Outlook and after many, many attempts with different clients, the two best ones are Google's own Gmail client or alternatively the Nine Email client. Latter is the most capable email client on Android I found to date, and is well supported and we'll polished. There is also Spark for Android now which is a good choice (used to be iOS only).
3. Pixel 4 XL is the only way to go. Even so, the battery life is pretty bad. It does not come even close to the iPhone 11 Pro (let alone the Max) and is well behind other flagships.
4. Google Podcast? This is one area where somebody else may be better advised to answer. Not a big podcast guy.
You're right that the Pixel camera is better still, at least in my opinion, though the 11 Pro really stepped up and it is basically on par. Portrait mode on the iPhone is better than the Pixel. Google Assistant is better in some ways and worse in others. I actually find that Siri holds up better with foreign sounding names, etc. Also, Google Assistant doesn't always trigger as it should, especially on voice activation.

vhl, I do not have the 11 Max but I have the X Max.
For me the face unlock works well for the apps I need. Unlocking my phone is very consistent and I have it set up to bypass the lock screen and go right to the last screen I was on. My banking apps (Discover and B of A) are both supported beyond that I don't have much of a need as Google fills in most of the other password requirements. I do use Outlook for my work email (Exchange) and the Gmail app for my personal email. I manage the phones for my company and have had a few users convert from the ios email app to Outlook and have been happy with it since it more closely mirrors their desktop experience. Battery life on my Pixel 4 XL is a solid B in my opinion. I know the 11 Max is better but I'm coming home everyday from work with high 50- low 60's in battery percentage. My phone is off the charger at 6:30 and my work day ends at 5:00. I love the Google Assistant, voice activated or squeezing on the phone activated is handy. I really like the pixel launcher and the Google feed to the left of the home screen. I'm not a podcast guy so I have no real opinion there but I have the Google podcast.
I would say my X Max feels a little more premium with the use of steel but I like the soft touch of the 4XL too. For me, it comes to the O/S, I try to use ios for periods of time but after a few days I have to switch back. Maybe I don't fully understand the software but I get frustrated with it and I cannot do the same multitasking on ios that I can with Android.
Good luck with your decision, I will leave you with this last thought. I read somewhere, maybe here, a long time ago, ios is great for people that like to play checkers but Android is for people that like to play chess, of course ymmv.

Question Gboard with Assistant Voice Typing

Hi all,
I was really interested in buying the Pixel 6 Pro but after seeing lots of reviews I am less interested due to fingerprint, battery etc. The Galaxy S21 Ultra looks really nice but I really would like to have that new Assistant Voice Typing for Gboard. Is there a way to spoof the build.props on the Galaxy S21 Ultra to make that feature work? It is even great when not used with a tensor core. I have not used a Samsung Device since the Note 3 so I am not sure how easy it is to unlock BL + root and change device props...

Hi, I use gboard and voice assistant works fine without any edit to build.prop

Just to clarify, you are using gboard and can use the new assistant voice typing that automatically does punctuations on a Galaxy S21 Ultra?

I don't think they option is available on the Ultra. On my Ultra I have to say period it question mark when using voice assistant.

I don't think it is available either but I want to know if it is possible to spoof the build.props to make gboard think the device is actually a Pixel 6 Pro... I saw this being done on a Poco device so technically this should be possible.

JDUS said:
I don't think it is available either but I want to know if it is possible to spoof the build.props to make gboard think the device is actually a Pixel 6 Pro... I saw this being done on a Poco device so technically this should be possible.
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Holy **** that's so stupid it made me laugh and get angry simultaneously. Of course I too was trying to find out if there was a way to get this assistant voice typing feature that's only available on the pixel 6 ported to the s21. And I love how your only reply is some dude who didn't even read the question. Or if he did he didn't understand the question and I'm not sure which ones worse. Great work sir.

Also though you were extremely patient in your responses to him so kudos to you that's pretty cool. Whereas I got angry and insulted the guy you just politely responded to him. That's definitely the better course

i have been hoping for a couple of years the same thing.. that advanced voice on pixels is like magical.

Question Is there a way to get rid of all the Google DARK UX pushy feathures?

Im not impressed at all by my Pixel since Black Friday. I actually received a S21 at work and its WAYYYYY better.
Anyway, a lot of BS feathures are problematic. I feel like Im being spied all the time by google rather than owning a phone.
I want for example to get rid of the google lens icon and the google bar.
Is there any way to do that?

Fennec23 said:
I feel like Im being spied all the time by google rather than owning a phone.
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Congrats on buying the Google phone then.
If you want to deactivate system apps enable developer settings, enable ADB, connect your phone to your PC and disable Google Lens and Google Search system apps / packages using Universal Android Debloater GUI and maybe other googly bloat.
Want to have more privacy? Learn about flashing your phone, unlock the bootloader, flash Graphene OS, Calyx OS, Lineage OS or something like that.
Maybe root your device and block trackers and stuff using Adaway. Or stay unrooted and use something like personalDNSfilter.

Maybe selling it is a good choice for you

Fennec23 said:
Im not impressed at all by my Pixel since Black Friday. I actually received a S21 at work and its WAYYYYY better.
Anyway, a lot of BS feathures are problematic. I feel like Im being spied all the time by google rather than owning a phone.
I want for example to get rid of the google lens icon and the google bar.
Is there any way to do that?
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All of that spyware crap is preinstalled on ALL android phones, not just pixel. They're a bit more in your face on pixel maybe though, since gooble is showcasing it there.
My recommendation would be to switch to grapheneOS. If you absolutely MUST use proprietary gooble bits, grapheneos implements a unique compatibility layer to cause it all to run as a conventional user-installed application instead of demanding excessive permissions.