Question Galaxy Watch 5 Pro Compass - Samsung Galaxy Watch 5

Sorry, I know this is the GW4 forum, but I couldn't find a GW5 forum. If there is one, please point me the way.
Anyone else having issues with the compass? On my GW4 classic, once I calibrate the compass it stays calibrated. Every time I open it, it points the correct direction.
Ok my GW5 Pro, the compass will not stay calibrated. Sometimes when I calibrate, it's way off. Other times it's accurate. But if I move my wrist or turn too quickly it will be off by several degrees. I've tried with True North and Magnetic North.
Software issue, or hardware issue?

That sounds more software than hardware. But I don't think it would hurt to reach out to Samsung and ask about it. They may have a software fix coming for it since it's just released or it may need to be replaced idk

I don't have any problems with the compass. GW5 Pro UK.

watch this review's section on the compass. Exactly what you describe. I hope there will be updates that will fix this.

Yeah, mines all over the place. I originally had a grey watch 5, but didn't like the color, so I sent it back and got the silver. The grey one worked perfectly, this silver one is pretty much never right..

Ok so I'm not the only one. Was wondering if I needed to exchange but doesn't sound like that would help. Thanks!

Make sure to report it guys. Go to contact us in the gear manager app, then tell them what's going on with it. The more folks do this, the better the chances are that it will get fixed quickly.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Sorry, I know this is the GW4 forum, but I couldn't find a GW5 forum. If there is one, please point me the way.
Anyone else having issues with the compass? On my GW4 classic, once I calibrate the compass it stays calibrated. Every time I open it, it points the correct direction.
Ok my GW5 Pro, the compass will not stay calibrated. Sometimes when I calibrate, it's way off. Other times it's accurate. But if I move my wrist or turn too quickly it will be off by several degrees. I've tried with True North and Magnetic North.
Software issue, or hardware iss
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Mr. Orange 645 said:
Sorry, I know this is the GW4 forum, but I couldn't find a GW5 forum. If there is one, please point me the way.
Anyone else having issues with the compass? On my GW4 classic, once I calibrate the compass it stays calibrated. Every time I open it, it points the correct direction.
Ok my GW5 Pro, the compass will not stay calibrated. Sometimes when I calibrate, it's way off. Other times it's accurate. But if I move my wrist or turn too quickly it will be off by several degrees. I've tried with True North and Magnetic North.
Software issue, or hardware issue?
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I think i know why is that happening.. When i took off that magnetic band off from my gw5 pro that compass issue dissapered. Also when i closed up the app and opened it again, compass was still calibrated. But as soon as i put that band back on it was not accurate again. So i think that magnet is messing up that compass ..

Mato285 said:
I think i know why is that happening.. When i took off that magnetic band off from my gw5 pro that compass issue dissapered. Also when i closed up the app and opened it again, compass was still calibrated. But as soon as i put that band back on it was not accurate again. So i think that magnet is messing up that compass ..
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I have the non pro 5 and have this problem.. It's not the band, at least not for me.

gettinwicked said:
I have the non pro 5 and have this problem.. It's not the band, at least not for me.
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Im sure for 90% its because of magnet on gw5 pro because it messed up compass on my mobile phone (Samsung galaxy s21 5g) same way as on watches when i put that band close to the phone. I hope im wrong because i like that band so much.

Mato285 said:
Im sure for 90% its because of magnet on gw5 pro because it messed up compass on my mobile phone (Samsung galaxy s21 5g) same way as on watches when i put that band close to the phone. I hope im wrong because i like that band so much.
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Well, I don't have that band on mine, so, that is definitely not my issue. Mine at least points in the general direction of North, most of the time. It's just crazy to me that Samsung would push out a watch that's meant for hiking and outdoors stuff with a compass that doesn't work.. It would suck to find out the hard way...

gettinwicked said:
Well, I don't have that band on mine, so, that is definitely not my issue. Mine at least points in the general direction of North, most of the time. It's just crazy to me that Samsung would push out a watch that's meant for hiking and outdoors stuff with a compass that doesn't work.. It would suck to find out the hard way...
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Also i just found out that even when band its of, it can still break calibration even from up to 20cm from band! Crazy!! Everything is all right when band is far from watches but as soon as i put it "too close" compass its ****ed up. Anyway it annoys me that i bought device for 460€ and its not working properly. for me its working totally fine without band.. If im right , its shame that big brain Samsung engineers did put out device with that stupid fault. Even more so when they was talking about that band as one of the selling points. If its because of that magnet there should be some compensation for gw5 users something as free diferrent band or something. In your case it should be software or defective piece.

I've seen this on a few YT videos, but I don't have this issue with my GW5 Pro, even with the original band with a magnet. Every time I opened the compass app it worked perfectly and the direction didn't change with any movement.
Could it be that the problem is a combination of hardware and software? It's possible that different watch batches have slighty different hardware compass and need a different sensitivity calibration?

The magnetic flux compass uses magnetic sensors. Metallic and magnetic objects in the vicinity can influence the local magnetic field. Calibration is needed to compensate for disturbances and get a better reading.
That some need to calibrate more than others is perfectly normal, as some may experience more/different magnetic disturbance in his location/situation than others.
It is not Samsungs error, but inherently connected to magnetic flux compasses.
The accuracy of the compass reading will probably never be better than 10-15° anyway. For instance, local earth magnetic anomalies, so called Variation, is not being compensated by the algorithms used by the watch and the magnetic North Pole lies in a different spot than the real geographic North Pole (earth rotation axis) - which is by the way also not steady in one spot as the earth rotation axis actually wobbles a bit.
My suggestion: don't make a fuss over this calibration or accuracy thing and just calibrate before you require a best possible compass reading - whatever your use-case may be.... It is more like a gimmick anyway.

OnnoJ said:
The magnetic flux compass uses magnetic sensors. Metallic and magnetic objects in the vicinity can influence the local magnetic field. Calibration is needed to compensate for disturbances and get a better reading.
That some need to calibrate more than others is perfectly normal, as some may experience more/different magnetic disturbance in his location/situation than others.
It is not Samsungs error, but inherently connected to magnetic flux compasses.
The accuracy of the compass reading will probably never be better than 10-15° anyway. For instance, local earth magnetic anomalies, so called Variation, is not being compensated by the algorithms used by the watch and the magnetic North Pole lies in a different spot than the real geographic North Pole (earth rotation axis) - which is by the way also not steady in one spot as the earth rotation axis actually wobbles a bit.
My suggestion: don't make a fuss over this calibration or accuracy thing and just calibrate before you require a best possible compass reading - whatever your use-case may be.... It is more like a gimmick anyway.
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Except that this IS a Samsung error. I, as well as others in this thread and on Reddit will calibrate the compass, then even SECONDS later it's off. And I mean, it can be OFF. Mines North has straight up pointed South, as well as most other directions.
Anyway, I wonder if it's hardware related? Because, mine is really bad, as well as some others, meanwhile, plenty of folks are pretty much spot on. My watch 4 was, I even put it up against my first watch 5 (got one color, didn't like it, so got a different one), and the 4 pointed as true as you can get, while the 5 was way off. The second 5 is the same way too. I don't know, might RMA it to see if a different one does better..

I have the 44mm BT model with the D-Buckle strap that has the magnet in it and have had no issues with the compass, so I do not think it is the D-Buckle causing the issue on the Pro model.

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[Request] Program for motorcycling

Is it possible to make a program for motorcycling, to see your actual bank and save the highest value?
I would pay 15 Euros for such a programm!
mathiaspe said:
Is it possible to make a program for motorcycling, to see your actual bank and save the highest value?
I would pay 15 Euros for such a programm!
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are you talking about recording speed/distance with gps? If so, you can try run.gps at:www.rungps.net.
I think by bank he means how far the bik leans over to one side. I think this would be pretty tricky as you'd probably have to mount the phone in the centre of the bike and then calibrate it, it would probably have to know how high it was off the ground too.
ljames28 said:
I think by bank he means how far the bik leans over to one side. I think this would be pretty tricky as you'd probably have to mount the phone in the centre of the bike and then calibrate it, it would probably have to know how high it was off the ground too.
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Not to mention that centripedal en centrifugal are in balance (hence the bike doesn't fall in or out of the corner) , so the Gsensor would read a center position...
But it would be pretty cool.
Lets try to get a bigger lean angle than Nicky Hayden.
Grtz H5N1_NL (aka mrZX7R)
If i were you I wouldnt be relying on the gsensor in a phone to stop you from crashing your bike. Using it as a water level or a lightsaber for fun makes sense, but using it to actually decide how far you lean your bike sounds a somewhat dangerous. I as a software writer wouldn't write anything like this knowing it could put people in danger
Wouldn't mind seeing an app that could measure the G forces when going around corners like some of those expensive sports cars can and could save the biggest G.
On screen you would have a big display showing the live G force with a smaller one next to it showing the biggest G at the time, could be a fun app.

No continuous heart rate?

Has anyone figured out how to get a continuous hear rate from the watch? I just got mine today and it seems that none of the apps can do it. I have tried android fit, hear rate app, and runtastic. Without continuous monitoring of the heart rate the feature is useless in my opinion.
I have same problem, without permanent checks is useless. Is giving nothing with endomondo itd. I don't want check my HR sometimes only.
I choose samsung because of this... and this problem with charger... I choose samsung first time after long time, and I think it's my next mistake.
SQ9KFX said:
I have same problem, without permanent checks is useless. Is giving nothing with endomondo itd. I don't want check my HR sometimes only.
I choose samsung because of this... and this problem with charger... I choose samsung first time after long time, and I think it's my next mistake.
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What exactly happens with the charger? I had a gear 2 and the charger looked almost identical to this one and it had no issues. I don't get how they are breaking.
http://androidandme.com/2014/07/new...harger-reportedly-damaging-some-smartwatches/
SQ9KFX said:
http://androidandme.com/2014/07/new...harger-reportedly-damaging-some-smartwatches/
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I don't really think there is an issue at all, except for a few people who misused the device and want to blame the manufacture.
Maturola said:
I don't really think there is an issue at all, except for a few people who misused the device and want to blame the manufacture.
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this.
in the videos of unboxing and early looks i watched, virtually every reviewer tried to put on and take off the cradle as it they were the hulk. if put on like a normal human being who doesn't want to break their $200 gadget, the cradle works perfectly fine.
as for continuous heart rate, with the way the sensor (optical) works i don't ever see that happening. and if somehow enabled, working very well at all. the sensor needs you to not be moving and cannot handle moisture. it was designed with more of a before and after exercise use in mind. this is the same way it works on any samsung device with a heart rate monitor.
even when it works, it's okay at best.
adiliyo said:
this.
in the videos of unboxing and early looks i watched, virtually every reviewer tried to put on and take off the cradle as it they were the hulk. if put on like a normal human being who doesn't want to break their $200 gadget, the cradle works perfectly fine.
as for continuous heart rate, with the way the sensor (optical) works i don't ever see that happening. and if somehow enabled, working very well at all. the sensor needs you to not be moving and cannot handle moisture. it was designed with more of a before and after exercise use in mind. this is the same way it works on any samsung device with a heart rate monitor.
even when it works, it's okay at best.
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The optical heart rate sensor is a pretty standard device that has been used in hospitals for many years. It measures blood oxygen levels. You've probably worn one in the hospital on the end of your finger, they use a red beam. Also the Gear 2 has continuous heart rate, as do other fitness watches such as the Mio Alpha. I've owned both and they work perfectly. There is no reason the Gear Live can't do it just as well as the Gear 2. Its probaby the same exact piece of hardware.
seh6183 said:
The optical heart rate sensor is a pretty standard device that has been used in hospitals for many years. It measures blood oxygen levels. You've probably worn one in the hospital on the end of your finger, they use a red beam. Also the Gear 2 has continuous heart rate, as do other fitness watches such as the Mio Alpha. I've owned both and they work perfectly. There is no reason the Gear Live can't do it just as well as the Gear 2. Its probaby the same exact piece of hardware.
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that's interesting, only having owned a gear 1, i was unaware of that. the hardware is most likely identical and is then most likely a limitation of either the fitness app or android wear.
The Gear Fit also has continuous monitoring while doing exercise.
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Runtastic when linked to the Gear 2 allows continuous heart rate monitoring. A guy in my running group has one which was part of the reason I got the Live as figured it would work the same.
I'm assuming either Samsung will update their Gear manager to link to the Live eventually or app developers will add the feature once they work it out.
At this point I just can not live without my gear live. I felt that way about the gear 2 and this thing blows it out of the water. I really really need continuous heart rate though and hope they release something soon.
seh6183 said:
The optical heart rate sensor is a pretty standard device that has been used in hospitals for many years. It measures blood oxygen levels. You've probably worn one in the hospital on the end of your finger, they use a red beam. Also the Gear 2 has continuous heart rate, as do other fitness watches such as the Mio Alpha. I've owned both and they work perfectly. There is no reason the Gear Live can't do it just as well as the Gear 2. Its probaby the same exact piece of hardware.
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Pulse ox at the fingertip is accurate, not at the wrist. Here's a good article about why optical sensors at the wrist aren't good.
I'm currently under 10 posts, pardon spaces in the link: cnet.com/ news /how-accurate-are-wristband-heart-rate-monitors
I've had 2 wrist mounted optical sensors and they worked with perfect accuracy.
I too had the Mio Alpha, and ran with both that and my chest strap HRM for weeks, it was never off by more than 2 bpm.
So now I've gotten a full fledged smartwatch in the Gear Live hoping it would still perform the fitness functions of the Alpha, but can't find an app to help me do so. Has anyone found anything?
poison469 said:
I too had the Mio Alpha, and ran with both that and my chest strap HRM for weeks, it was never off by more than 2 bpm.
So now I've gotten a full fledged smartwatch in the Gear Live hoping it would still perform the fitness functions of the Alpha, but can't find an app to help me do so. Has anyone found anything?
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I have been looking for something too but haven't found anything. I have emailed the developer for this app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pribble.htc.ble.hrm
I also tweeted the developer for this app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=burtonator.heartman
If I hear something back I will update here.
It's totally lame because the gear 2 does it, albeit not as good as the mio. Honestly though once I saw that the moto 360 had a HRM both my gear lives went for sale. I really hate Samsung with a passion lol and won't be buying one of their products for a while. They make these great products with potential and then use the cheapest materials on planet earth to construct them and then have a 5 year old draw their OS with crayons and release it. I hope they aren't shocked their sales have dipped significantly last quarter.
I'm basically upset about the whole charging debacle and the fact that Samsung purposely crippled the gear live by not developing a simple heart rate app because they don't want the live to compete with their horrible Tizen platform. I guarantee moto will have a continuous heart rate monitor out of the box when it's released.
seh6183 said:
It's totally lame because the gear 2 does it, albeit not as good as the mio. Honestly though once I saw that the moto 360 had a HRM both my gear lives went for sale. I really hate Samsung with a passion lol and won't be buying one of their products for a while. They make these great products with potential and then use the cheapest materials on planet earth to construct them and then have a 5 year old draw their OS with crayons and release it. I hope they aren't shocked their sales have dipped significantly last quarter.
I'm basically upset about the whole charging debacle and the fact that Samsung purposely crippled the gear live by not developing a simple heart rate app because they don't want the live to compete with their horrible Tizen platform. I guarantee moto will have a continuous heart rate monitor out of the box when it's released.
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I'm not sure the Moto360 will have anything more available than the Live does... RunTracker, RunTastic, GoogleFit, MyTracks,etc... none of them pull data from the HRM on the Live... They are the same apps that will be available to the 360 when it finally gets here.
I also had a Gear2 and while it had software to do continuous monitoring, it was a bad hardware design. I was hopeful the Live would be better since they curved the back and moved the sensor to the middle. On the Gear2, the sensor was in the corner and the back was flat which kept the corner and sensor from staying in direct contact with my wrist.
This layout is like the Mio, but unbelievably there is no software that utilizes the HRM yet.
poison469 said:
I'm not sure the Moto360 will have anything more available than the Live does... RunTracker, RunTastic, GoogleFit, MyTracks,etc... none of them pull data from the HRM on the Live... They are the same apps that will be available to the 360 when it finally gets here.
I also had a Gear2 and while it had software to do continuous monitoring, it was a bad hardware design. I was hopeful the Live would be better since they curved the back and moved the sensor to the middle. On the Gear2, the sensor was in the corner and the back was flat which kept the corner and sensor from staying in direct contact with my wrist.
This layout is like the Mio, but unbelievably there is no software that utilizes the HRM yet.
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I feel exactly the same way. When I saw the location of the sensor on the live I was excited and immediately offed my gear 2. Then waited weeks for my live to arrive only to find out it was literally useless. That coupled with yet another build quality issue from Samsung (charger) and I'm done. I'm confident the moto 360 will have a Motorola app capable of monitoring heart rate continuously.
Well since the moto 360 will have the same apps as the g watch and the gear live since they are keeping the manufacturers from changing android wear , it's really up to a developer to make an app that uses this function otherwise Google will have to release something.
hungmung said:
Well since the moto 360 will have the same apps as the g watch and the gear live since they are keeping the manufacturers from changing android wear , it's really up to a developer to make an app that uses this function otherwise Google will have to release something.
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They can still add their own apps to the watch if they wanted to. If not they could just make an app and put it in the store to be downloaded.

Do I buy this phone or not?

Hello everyone, hope the weekend is going well.
A Huawei user here (current devices Mate 9 and Mate 10 Pro), I'm at the verge of purchasing ROG II with 12GB/512GB from AliExpress.
I've gone through this forum & seen a lot of comments. TBH, I want a powerful gaming phone and out of all the options (redmagic 3s, blackshark 2 pro, IQOO pro, Nubia Z20, OnePlus7T etc), the air triggers are the pulling factor for me using a phone to game without always having to use accessories (maybe in a meeting or somewhere I have to look serious:laugh
I noticed some complaints on dust getting into the wide angle camera. Now that's a serious issue for me being in a Sub-Saharan environment and planning to use the phone for the next 3 years or so. Is it batch-specific or general as buying from AliExpress I doubt if there's warranty.
Also, display quality (regardless of 90Hz/120Hz) is very important to me. I love puchy amazing oled displays like the the top-tier Samsung S10+, iPhones and OnePlus7T
I believe none is in the best position to advise than you guys here already with the device.
What do you think?
ROG II?
Or any other one....
Thanks
zayidhs said:
Hello everyone, hope the weekend is going well.
A Huawei user here (current devices Mate 9 and Mate 10 Pro), I'm at the verge of purchasing ROG II with 12GB/512GB from AliExpress.
I've gone through this forum & seen a lot of comments. TBH, I want a powerful gaming phone and out of all the options (redmagic 3s, blackshark 2 pro, IQOO pro, Nubia Z20, OnePlus7T etc), the air triggers are the pulling factor for me using a phone to game without always having to use accessories (maybe in a meeting or somewhere I have to look serious:laugh
I noticed some complaints on dust getting into the wide angle camera. Now that's a serious issue for me being in a Sub-Saharan environment and planning to use the phone for the next 3 years or so. Is it batch-specific or general as buying from AliExpress I doubt if there's warranty.
Also, display quality (regardless of 90Hz/120Hz) is very important to me. I love puchy amazing oled displays like the the top-tier Samsungs, iPhones and OnePlus
I believe none is in the best position to advise than you guys here already with the device.
What do you think?
ROG II?
Or any other one....
Thanks
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Well, I have been decorating in my house for the past month, dust everywhere, and I mean EVERYWHERE! (see screenshots), and I haven't got dust in the camera with my phone on me all the time... So it could've just been a rare case or cases, I can't remember if it was only one user...
Also, the latest update allows you to customise the air triggers for gradual slide eg. when drifting cars or running /walking in a game. Pretty nifty... Again, see screenshots.
The only thing I think you might be downgrading on is the cam quality. I can't say from experience as I never had those phones to compare with...
Hope that helps...
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Well, I have been decorating in my house for the past month, dust everywhere, and I mean EVERYWHERE! (see screenshots), and I haven't got dust in the camera with my phone on me all the time... So it could've just been a rare case or cases, I can't remember if it was only one user...
Also, the latest update allows you to customise the air triggers for gradual slide eg. when drifting cars or running /walking in a game. Pretty nifty... Again, see screenshots.
The only thing I think you might be downgrading on is the cam quality. I can't say from experience as I never had those phones to compare with...
Hope that helps...
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Glad to hear that. I think this will give me more strength to go ahead with ROG II.
BTW, what do you think of the screen's beauty? Is it punchy and beautiful like them Samsungs or it's just meh?
Thanks so much, it really helps.
Oh, enjoy decorating the house ??????
zayidhs said:
Glad to hear that. I think this will give me more strength to go ahead with ROG II.
BTW, what do you think of the screen's beauty? Is it punchy and beautiful like them Samsungs or it's just meh?
Thanks so much, it really helps.
Oh, enjoy decorating the house ???
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TBH i haven't used a samsung in years, nor iphone etc - been using xiaomi etc, so i can't really comment on the vibrancy in comparison... sorry fella
reg66 said:
TBH i haven't used a samsung in years, nor iphone etc - been using xiaomi etc, so i can't really comment on the vibrancy in comparison... sorry fella
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It's ok, thanks for your time
zayidhs said:
Hello everyone, hope the weekend is going well.
A Huawei user here (current devices Mate 9 and Mate 10 Pro), I'm at the verge of purchasing ROG II with 12GB/512GB from AliExpress.
I've gone through this forum & seen a lot of comments. TBH, I want a powerful gaming phone and out of all the options (redmagic 3s, blackshark 2 pro, IQOO pro, Nubia Z20, OnePlus7T etc), the air triggers are the pulling factor for me using a phone to game without always having to use accessories (maybe in a meeting or somewhere I have to look serious:laugh
I noticed some complaints on dust getting into the wide angle camera. Now that's a serious issue for me being in a Sub-Saharan environment and planning to use the phone for the next 3 years or so. Is it batch-specific or general as buying from AliExpress I doubt if there's warranty.
Also, display quality (regardless of 90Hz/120Hz) is very important to me. I love puchy amazing oled displays like the the top-tier Samsung S10+, iPhones and OnePlus7T
I believe none is in the best position to advise than you guys here already with the device.
What do you think?
ROG II?
Or any other one....
Thanks
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i live in a dusty city too i didn't have any issue of dust going into camera
As a fan of Huawei I get where you are coming from. My last two devices were Huawei.
Dust: I say just cover the vent like I did and never worry about it again. The increase in temps is very slight while gaming. You can always use the active cooler to prevent thermal throttling in long game sessions.
Display: Zero Complaints from me. Its great.
The downsides are no VoLTE which isn't a deal breaker for me. No WIFI calling which I don't understand why this isn't a thing. Its a bit heavier than I'm use to. Something I never noticed before is the way I handle my phone. I rest the whole phone on my pinky finger and it leans against my other fingers. This allows me to reach most of the screen with my thumb (I have long fingers) for easy one handed operation. Well the added weight of the phone I can feel in my pinky finger so I can't hold it like this indefinitely any longer. My pinky starts hurting now. The finger print sensor is trash. I use face unlock.
Despite that, I'm really enjoying my device. Its a great phone.
TLDR:
Cover vent to prevent dust if you are concerned
Display rocks
no VoLTE calling in USA
no WIFI calling in USA
Heavy depending on how you hold the phone.
Finger Print Sensor is trash. May get better with updates.
This is an awesome device and I'm enjoying it.
I personally love this phone so much (loved...) but right now, because i have problems with accuracy of my COMPASS and slow catching GPS signal, sent it back and waiting for results. On other side, all aspect like loudness, 120hz display and performance - this phone is absolute beast. I love it so much, even though is quite heavy. Wanna have it already back home fixed or got replacement
Scar_14 said:
i live in a dusty city too i didn't have any issue of dust going into camera
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Well that's comforting, how long have you been using it?
deekjx said:
As a fan of Huawei I get where you are coming from. My last two devices were Huawei.
Dust: I say just cover the vent like I did and never worry about it again. The increase in temps is very slight while gaming. You can always use the active cooler to prevent thermal throttling in long game sessions.
Display: Zero Complaints from me. Its great.
The downsides are no VoLTE which isn't a deal breaker for me. No WIFI calling which I don't understand why this isn't a thing. Its a bit heavier than I'm use to. Something I never noticed before is the way I handle my phone. I rest the whole phone on my pinky finger and it leans against my other fingers. This allows me to reach most of the screen with my thumb (I have long fingers) for easy one handed operation. Well the added weight of the phone I can feel in my pinky finger so I can't hold it like this indefinitely any longer. My pinky starts hurting now. The finger print sensor is trash. I use face unlock.
Despite that, I'm really enjoying my device. Its a great phone.
TLDR:
Cover vent to prevent dust if you are concerned
Display rocks
no VoLTE calling in USA
no WIFI calling in USA
Heavy depending on how you hold the phone.
Finger Print Sensor is trash. May get better with updates.
This is an awesome device and I'm enjoying it.
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VoLTE isn't a deal breaker for me either. Neither is the weight.
It seems I may just go ahead and make the purchase.
Thanks
CRYPTfromCATACOMBZ said:
I personally love this phone so much (loved...) but right now, because i have problems with accuracy of my COMPASS and slow catching GPS signal, sent it back and waiting for results. On other side, all aspect like loudness, 120hz display and performance - this phone is absolute beast. I love it so much, even though is quite heavy. Wanna have it already back home fixed or got replacement
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Thanks. Hopefully, you'll get it fixed or replaced soon

Question Mi 11 Wifi Stopped Working

So as the title says, i woke up today and my Wifi isn't working for some reason. I try to turn it on but it wont even turn on. I am on MIUI 13 global and have been on it for quite sometime. Has anybody else encountered a similar issue?
M.Walaa said:
So as the title says, i woke up today and my Wifi isn't working for some reason. I try to turn it on but it wont even turn on. I am on MIUI 13 global and have been on it for quite sometime. Has anybody else encountered a similar issue?
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Sorry to be bearer of bad news but it looks like your WiFi chip is fried which is a defect in most Mi 11's
azid96 said:
Sorry to be bearer of bad news but it looks like your WiFi chip is fried which is a defect in most Mi 11's
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why though, I've had it for quite some time now and I went to sleep one day and today it was like that with no reason whatsoever. I'll go to the service center ASAP. You think they can just fix the broken part or do they have to change multiple components or something?
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why though, I've had it for quite some time now and I went to sleep one day and today it was like that with no reason whatsoever. I'll go to the service center ASAP. You think they can just fix the broken part or do they have to change multiple components or something?
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If it's still in warranty you'll get a new phone otherwise board would be replaced....sadly this always how it happens either when you restart it or the other morning I really hope mine doesn't happen it's related to device being consistently overheated
Make sure you take action quick as wifi failure is a precursor to the main motherboard getting fried.
Source: personal experience. Just had my Mi 11 motherboard replaced under warranty. Luckily only lost one week's worth of data as I did a backup prior to the whole phone going kaput.
The issue seems to be more complex than what meets the eye. Qca6490 is both the wifi and Bluetooth 5.0 chipset, having it break would mean making both of them nonfunctional but we know that's not the case for Bluetooth.
I have a theory about what the issue is but I don't have enough data to confirm it. It would help me if you could download Device Info HW from PlayStore and get screenshot of SOC, SYSTEM and THERMAL tab(of the latter it would be better if the device was cooled down, data disabled. I would just need screens of modem-wifi-usr, the four voices starting with pm, wireless-therm, wifi-therm)
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The issue seems to be more complex than what meets the eye. Qca6490 is both the wifi and Bluetooth 5.0 chipset, having it break would mean making both of them nonfunctional but we know that's not the case for Bluetooth.
I have a theory about what the issue is but I don't have enough data to confirm it. It would help me if you could download Device Info HW from PlayStore and get screenshot of SOC, SYSTEM and THERMAL tab(of the latter it would be better if the device was cooled down, data disabled. I would just need screens of modem-wifi-usr, the four voices starting with pm, wireless-therm, wifi-therm)
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My bluetooth is fine as well, I uploaded the pictures you want though am not sure if they are the ones you want but i am definitely interested in your theory
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My bluetooth is fine as well, I uploaded the pictures you want though am not sure if they are the ones you want but i am definitely interested in your theory
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Are these taken when the phone was cooled down and data was either turned off or turned on by no more than a few seconds? In any case I would need the temps of pm8350, all the three voices and pm735, scroll down and you can find them easily
heh funny, exactly same thing happened to me two days go and not even on miui 13, i try to hard reset and update phone to miui 13 to see if its software issue but nope, so i have give phone to service under warranty second time, first time was display, really dissapointed with those issue on one year old flagship model
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Are these taken when the phone was cooled down and data was either turned off or turned on by no more than a few seconds? In any case I would need the temps of pm8350, all the three voices and pm735, scroll down and you can find them easily
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yes and yes, I hope those are of any use.
M.Walaa said:
yes and yes, I hope those are of any use.
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Yes, they are extremely useful
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Yes, they are extremely useful
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So, any useful insight?
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This is only based on a very small sample of devices analyzed and it may be not accurate. If people with this issue see this, I hope they can try to reach me out so we can get more device samples.
Okay, so this is what I found:
1. The Mi 11 that had their wifi fried under the system tab they all expose the Bluetooth voice. This is actually very odd because not all of them do which may indicates differenent revisions in either the wifi/bluetooth chip, motherboard or the SoC itself. I am not saying that all the ones that expose the Bluetooth voice will fry but, as it stands now, all the ones who had their wifi fried they all exposed the Bluetooth voice.
2. They are characterized by extremely high temperatures that not only interest the SoC but seems to be spread throughout the entire motherboard. What strikes me as extremely suspicious is the pm8350 temps aka the PMIC. They were quite high in all the samples with broken wifis. While this could be attributed to the fact the pm8350 chipsets are just behind the 888 which is known to be a hot SoC, I would like to focus on a particular data. We have seen similiar high PMIC+SoC combo temps in other devices such as the Poco X3 Pro which is known to have faulty PMIC issues that can cause hard bricks. It wouldn't surprise me if this was also the case, after all the PMIC is tasked with DVFS and a faulty one may not be scaling frequencies and voltages properly. That may be the cause of the unexplainable, increased heat that may damage a component or a series of electronical components around the wifi chipset itself.
3. All the devices that had their wifi fried seems to have broken before or around their first year of use. Again this is only based on a way too low sample of devices but as it stands now the chances of it breaking after the first year of use are very low. This particular detail made me think that there may have been a particular wifi firmware bug that triggers after a specific date, a sort of time bomb which isn't unheard of in softwares. Even though I am pretty positive this is not the case, trying to set your phone time to a day previous to the one where your wifi broke won't hurt just to check.
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1- I am not sure I understand what you mean by bluetooth voice.
2- While am not a techie in this particular field and don't fully understand the scope of this point, I'd like to offer an uninformed opinion nonetheless based on my academic background.
Could it be that the heat that is spread throughout the motherboard has to do with a defective vapor chamber? It is a well-known fact that SD888 is a behemoth when it comes to its heat output, most companies address this by adding a vapor chamber in their phones to dissipate the heat and if I remember anything from my heat transfer classes, it stands to reason that a defective VC would lead to heat not dissipating properly, leading to the entire motherboard having issues and maybe the Wi-fi module is the weakest link in this chain?
However, this does not explain why the SD888 itself doesn't fry, maybe it has to do with its built in throttling mechanisms? I don't really game on my phone and the most I do is Spotify and maybe Netflix so I never really pushed it to test if i'd fry the SD888
3- The software bomb is an interesting but imo a very unlikely theory considering the heat signature output its most likely a physical hardware issue. I unfortunately cannot test the hypothesis as I handed in my phone to the MI service center today They said they'll let me know in a week so I'll keep y'all updated.
Lastly, I would like to add that this is my first flagship phone, I normally used midrange smartphones but this time I thought I'd get something stronger and to be fair I kind of regret going for this phone specifically because of this issue.
The device itself looks great, runs smoothly, has a fantastic display and the fast charging is out of this world, the fact that I got a free 80W wireless charger too makes it even more spectacular, it is a good phone.
However, this does not excuse the fact that it broke down less than a year from my buying it (I got it last August) and a good phone is as good as the experience it provides and recently, the MIUI 13 barebone update put a bitter taste in my mouth considering how incomplete it is, coupled with this catastrophic hardware failure, I cannot in good conscience recommend that anybody goes for a flagship phone from Xiaomi anytime soon.
Had this been a singular individual error, I could have chalked it down to a manufacturing issue with my particular unit which is excusable, but ever since I posted, I've done some research and a LOT of people have had this issue which means its negligence on Xiaomi's part to conduct a proper QC/QA testing before rolling out their devices and such laziness cannot be excused. Here's hoping I'll get my unit back soon
Had the same exact issue last week.. Wifi has been working fine for a year, and then all of a sudden it won't turn on.. Sent it to repair.. Hopefully I get a new device.
Okay, so I got my device back today, they had to change the entire board, the Wi-Fi is now functioning again. It is unfortunate that it broke down in the first place but at least they fixed it rather quickly. Hopefully it wont break down again in a few months time @[email protected]
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Okay, so I got my device back today, they had to change the entire board, the Wi-Fi is now functioning again. It is unfortunate that it broke down in the first place but at least they fixed it rather quickly. Hopefully it wont break down again in a few months time @[email protected]
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Let's hope so but I would say that if when it is in idle, cooled and with only wifi turned on and the temps aren't above 34/35C then it should be fine
after install the last stable version of xiaomi.eu rom(xiaomi.eu_multi_MI11_V13.0.8.0.SKBCNXM) on my mi 11, Wi-Fi stoped to work after a day and Bluetooth and 4g/5g not working proprielly anymore. I reed about the hight heat of sd888 burning the Wi-Fi modem of mi 11 in Internet. Anyaway, I already buy another smartphone...
@hhwjthje , a new owner here. Would you please clarify what you meant by bluetooth voice. Couldn't find that on @M.Walaa screenshot and we know he had the fried module. I also don't seem to have a position for bluetooth voice.
Also not sure why you think idle temps matter, when it's clear prolonged load temps is what's causing the damage.
Had the same issue. Suddenly the WiFi stopped working after around 10 months of use. I am from Bangladesh and no-one can possibly fix this issue in here. Contacted the seller and they asked me to wait until Chinese borders fully opens. They will send the unit to China. I have been a big Xiaomi fan but the experience I am having with Mi11 is disastrous.

Question Defective S23/S23+ main lens

Dears,
As some of you might already know, most of S23 and S23+ units, besides bad camera software, very bad photo quality because of the software, have also defective main camera lens. I noticed the issue after my testing period of this crap device expired and I am not able to return it anymore. I have taken few dozens of shots recently with GCam and this defect is too prominent to ignore, not mentioning the inability to shot documents, notes, invoices, etc.
The problem is well described here: https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-s23-camera-hardware-issue/
Thing is that in many countries (mine included), Samsung is trying to make people dumb, explaining this issue by a "feature" of big sensors, which is - of course - a bull****.
Samsung in Italy has reportedly acknowledged the issue and is slowly admitting that there is a hardware defect they are willing to repair: https://www.hdblog.it/smartphone/articoli/n568223/galaxy-s23-foto-problema/
Has any of you tried to make Samsung Service replace the faulty sensor? Have the service in your country been trying to tell you the bull**** about the lens characteristics and refuse the repair?
Looks like it's optical; the lense has an odd blur pattern...
All lens have blurring ie lense blur chart. It varies throughout the image. Its preferable the image is the sharpest at the center. More blur tends to happen towards the outer areas and preferably in an even pattern rather than specific spots.
This blur seems excessive though. A lense defect is what it looks like to me.
The sensor needs to be perfectly flat otherwise areas will be out of focus. If this is the case it's a gross QC oversight.
Yes, it is optical, it is a defect.
Thing is that Samsung employees are telling the bull**** and insist that's a natural bokeh caused by sensor size and they refuse repair. This is sick and that's why I wonder if this is country-specific trick to try making customers dumb or Samsung strategy for the problem.
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Yes, it is optical, it is a defect.
Thing is that Samsung employees are telling the bull**** and insist that's a natural bokeh caused by sensor size and they refuse repair. This is sick and that's why I wonder if this is country-specific trick to try making customers dumb or Samsung strategy for the problem.
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Bokeh? Do they even know what that is?
I be ripping them to shreds...
I feel cheated paid more than 900 euro for a device, because I decided to buy of the best flagships. I could as well kept using Poco F3 with Gcam. The other day spend like 10 minutes trying to capture photo of a sick leave document to send to my employer, it was always blurry in the top left corner, so I learned that I should click focus top left corner and worked. Everyone should speak up about this problem.
I have successfully contacted my local Samsung Service.
They "have heard" something about the faulty lens and they offered a repair, but this repair would take over 2 weeks, because local services are not yet allowed to perform any service operations on S23 series. This is about to be changed late May and this is when I will try to contact them again to have my lens replaced. Hopefully for a working one.
Bad news is that the employee I was talking with was not certain if the replacement camera units they have will be free of the issue xD
I just can't believe this crap has ever been released.
Has this been fixed yet? Just bought a 256GB S23, kinda sad to see this in the forum right when I spend 800€ on it
I also bought the S23 256GB version when it got released and I don't have that problem on any pic I take. So it seems that not all units are effected.
It happens when I take picture of pages. But taking normal pictures it doesn't bother me.
Anyway, it is big drawback of this phone. Samsung silent just confirms that the problem exists.
My S23+ is the same, we have to push and show everyone interested in the S23 that they have problems and that Samsung does not admit, it is completely frustrating for a device of this price and to have worse camera performance than my S10e.
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Has this been fixed yet? Just bought a 256GB S23, kinda sad to see this in the forum right when I spend 800€ on it
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News?
if i want to buy a new s23 what do i look for to avoid th defective lens?
Samsung addressing this problem!?? Don't know
Samsung finally confirms blurry S23, S23 Plus cameras, says a fix is coming
Samsung has confirmed a so-called banana blur issue affecting Galaxy S23 and S23 Plus cameras, adding that a fix is coming.
www.androidauthority.com
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if i want to buy a new s23 what do i look for to avoid th defective lens?
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Test the camera using the main lens shooting a document, look for a curved blurry path, mine has it
With Samsung claiming it's a software thing, everyone will have it. Some people are just more sensitive to noticing it.
I have it as well, but in all honestly, I never barely ever make a picture of something closer than 50cm away.
All other pictures look perfectly fine.
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With Samsung claiming it's a software thing, everyone will have it. Some people are just more sensitive to noticing it.
I have it as well, but in all honestly, I never barely ever make a picture of something closer than 50cm away.
All other pictures look perfectly fine.
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I think it's hardware. Either the sensor or lense.
If so will Sammy try to cover it up with AI?
Time will tell, test revision with a random printed document...
Either way Samsung has gone overboard with their AI enhancement bs.
Another reason this 5002 mAh phone gets poor SOT in spite of its more efficient ram and what should be a more efficient SOC.
That also means a warmer running device that will run hot in ambient 100°F temperatures.
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I think it's hardware. Either the sensor or lense.
If so will Sammy try to cover it up with AI?
Time will tell, test revision with a random printed document...
Either way Samsung has gone overboard with their AI enhancement bs.
Another reason this 5002 mAh phone gets poor SOT in spite of its more efficient ram and what should be a more efficient SOC.
That also means a warmer running device that will run hot in ambient 100°F temperatures.
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Yeah I do feel like Samsung is trying to play off the camera issues as a software thing. I'm doubtful it is as well.
Furthermore, the battery life of the S23 is great. I'm not sure what you're talking about here. The Snapdragon gen2 performs great, and quite frankly, I barely ever have to charge it before going to bed.
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Yeah I do feel like Samsung is trying to play off the camera issues as a software thing. I'm doubtful it is as well.
Furthermore, the battery life of the S23 is great. I'm not sure what you're talking about here. The Snapdragon gen2 performs great, and quite frankly, I barely ever have to charge it before going to bed.
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Specifically if the S23U is optimized what kind of SOT can it get?
My N10+ with a new battery (4100-4300 mAh) will get a 11-13 hrs SOT. Browsing with Brave uses about 6% @hr total with display brightness around 27-30%*.
With the larger 5002 mAh battery I would expect to see 14-16 hrs SOT if running nonstop if optimized similarly with 5G off and display fixed at 60hz.
Most (any?) aren't seeing this. Worse Samsung's removal of expandable storage will force many to use cloud storage which uses a lot of battery. Instead of becoming more efficient Samsung just keeps putting in bigger batteries. 4300 mAh was about as large as you want go otherwise the phone gets thicker and worse heavier. These are already hard hitting devices when dropped, that extra 30gm hurts. Samsung's solution? Give it more bezel The N10+ still has the best display to bezel ratio after almost 4 years. wtf Samsung?
Google Android didn't help any either by fully implementing cpu cycle sucking scoped storage.
Any gains Google made in efficiency elsewhere is wiped out by scoped storage. That also forced Samsung to add dozens of new small system apps to try to preserve UI functionality and appearance. What a mess.
*Optimized: wifi disabled but internet and phone always on.
Tap on AOD. Playstore, Google backup Transport and Framework disabled. Google play Services normally temporarily disabled. All global power management disabled. All carrier, app, Google and Samsung feedback disabled. And little bixby is so disabled.
I used Xperia 5 II before taking a document from main camera (24mm F1.7), the outer words always blur (can say MUST blur). But no problem if use zoom lens (70mm F2.4) but need to pull out my device from object, then the whole page are clear. I think this is the nature of main camera (cannot take an object too close).
Not only documents, when I took pictures of a dish of food, the food at the center was clear, but the edge of dish and out side were blur. So if I want entire picture clear, I usually use 70mm lens. This will look a bit strange when I took picture in restaurant.
This is my experience of using Xperia device. I am not sure about other device except I am currently using S23 coming the same issue. Therefore, I don't think it is len defect, it is how you use a smartphone to take suitable photos.

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