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hey everyone! I've been looking to buy a nexus 7 but the lack of expandable memory is making it hard to justify buying and the fact that the biggest option is 16GB of internal storage (13GB available).
Now I'm still going to buy it just because i cant resist but does anyone think there is a way I could actually replace the internal SD card with my own larger one? i ask this because I have seen in a few phones that the internal storage is nothing more than a regular SD card.
anyways it would be great if anyone has any ideas or if you really think cloud storage is just fine let me know

Being totally unqualified to comment (but that has never stopped me),
you would be silly buying a Nexus 7 with the idea of replacing the internal SD card yourself.
Maybe a teardown will reveal a standard SD card socket - but I highly doubt it.
Sockets cost a lot more than a surface mount device, and you really don't want to go there. Even if you are able to replace the SD card, the boot rom is likely to have an idea as to the size and format of the SD - and you can't change that.

tomdroid3 said:
hey everyone! I've been looking to buy a nexus 7 but the lack of expandable memory is making it hard to justify buying and the fact that the biggest option is 16GB of internal storage (13GB available).
Now I'm still going to buy it just because i cant resist but does anyone think there is a way I could actually replace the internal SD card with my own larger one? i ask this because I have seen in a few phones that the internal storage is nothing more than a regular SD card.
anyways it would be great if anyone has any ideas or if you really think cloud storage is just fine let me know
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Not many people can answer your question now since not many have them. We will have to wait for IFixIt to break one down. There are stories on people replacing the sdcard chip with a larger one via soldering but we won't know for sure until someone opens one up.
At it's current infant stage, best storage option is to use an OTG cable & sdcard.
Also, need to wait to see if dev's are able to improve anything.
Can't comment on cloud storage because you need to tell us what type of user you are: gamer, video watcher, etc....
I'm a gamer & the best way for me to to backup Android folder & remove game files that I'm currently not playing. When I do play that game, I transfer back the game files to Android folder.
Basically you have to manage your storage space. Also need to factor in storage for nandroids.
I'll say 16gb is enough if you manage your space: backup files & transferring them back when needed, etc.

Transcend storejet cloud 64gb wireless ssd hard drive is $99.00 on amazon. Small enough for put in your pocket, 5-6 hrs battery. I can put link here, cause i'm newbie lol.
or
Kingston Wi-Drive: short battery, it's exspensive.
or
Maxell AirStash flash drive: good battery, but it's very exspensive.

^ Following the previous posters answers, I would recommend a Seagate GoFlex Satellite & mod it to 1TB. credit goes to the folks in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740395&page=4

>anyways it would be great if anyone has any ideas or if you really think cloud storage is just fine let me know
Cloud only works for multimedia. It doesn't work for games/apps that take up space. Games (non-casual) can get pretty big. Ditto for some apps, eg Google Maps offline caching. One solution,
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e.mote said:
>anyways it would be great if anyone has any ideas or if you really think cloud storage is just fine let me know
Cloud only works for multimedia. It doesn't work for games/apps that take up space. Games (non-casual) can get pretty big. Ditto for some apps, eg Google Maps offline caching. One solution,
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pm me the name of that magical micro USB card reader plz!

micro USB to micro sd (for OTG)

Does anyone knows if such a thing exist: a small microUSB to microSD card reader ?
i.e. something like the tiny USB key that have a micro SD card reader, but with a micro-B USB interface (instead of a full USB) ...
I have been searching crazy lately, but nothing !!! (I can't believe that some manufacturer did not had this idea ?!)
Furthermore, micro USB card reader a very rare ! Any reason ?
As a result, I am about to DIY the thing inspired by the following example (but with micro-B usb and with direct connection):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1713914
Starting with something like:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/5-sets-USB-M...ltDomain_0&hash=item2a124803eb#ht_2265wt_1165
and
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313271
The final goal would be to create a micro-usb to microSD adaptator as small as possible ...
Any better idea ? or product you know ?

NicoGa said:
Does anyone knows if such a thing exist: a small microUSB to microSD card reader ?
i.e. something like the tiny USB key that have a micro SD card reader, but with a micro-B USB interface (instead of a full USB) ...
I have been searching crazy lately, but nothing !!! (I can't believe that some manufacturer did not had this idea ?!)
Furthermore, micro USB card reader a very rare ! Any reason ?
As a result, I am about to DIY the thing inspired by the following example (but with micro-B usb and with direct connection):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1713914
Starting with something like:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/5-sets-USB-M...ltDomain_0&hash=item2a124803eb#ht_2265wt_1165
and
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313271
The final goal would be to create a micro-usb to microSD adaptator as small as possible ...
Any better idea ? or product you know ?
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i was looking around for exactly that. It didnt seem to exist though, so i caved and went with a standard otg cable and a tiny micro sd reader. Kudos to you if you can get it to work. I'll be following this thread

NicoGa said:
Does anyone knows if such a thing exist: a small microUSB to microSD card reader ?
i.e. something like the tiny USB key that have a micro SD card reader, but with a micro-B USB interface (instead of a full USB) ...
I have been searching crazy lately, but nothing !!! (I can't believe that some manufacturer did not had this idea ?!)
Furthermore, micro USB card reader a very rare ! Any reason ?
As a result, I am about to DIY the thing inspired by the following example (but with micro-B usb and with direct connection):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1713914
Starting with something like:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/5-sets-USB-M...ltDomain_0&hash=item2a124803eb#ht_2265wt_1165
and
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313271
The final goal would be to create a micro-usb to microSD adaptator as small as possible ...
Any better idea ? or product you know ?
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If you don't mind using a usb memory stick, you won't need an adapter. It will be a lot cheaper & probably faster (depending on what class sd card you use).

I only found a Micro-USB card reader, but it had a giant box on a short cable so it totally sucked. I searched for OTG micro reader on ebay and found that one.

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Thanks for your interest!
Yes, but all existing solutions are somewhat bulky ... which really contrast with the sleak devices!!
A tiny microUSB dongle that integrates seamlessly with the device would be marvelous (it could be not bigger than 1 x 1 x 0.5 cm) ... or an other approach would be to integrate the storage in the case (where there could be a heck of storage) ...
If I proceed to the DIY, I would post the pictures.

What you need to start is something like this:
http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10425
And manage to swap out the connector.

NicoGa said:
Does anyone knows if such a thing exist: a small microUSB to microSD card reader ?
i.e. something like the tiny USB key that have a micro SD card reader, but with a micro-B USB interface (instead of a full USB) ...
I have been searching crazy lately, but nothing !!! (I can't believe that some manufacturer did not had this idea ?!)
Furthermore, micro USB card reader a very rare ! Any reason ?
As a result, I am about to DIY the thing inspired by the following example (but with micro-B usb and with direct connection):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1713914
Starting with something like:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/5-sets-USB-M...ltDomain_0&hash=item2a124803eb#ht_2265wt_1165
and
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313271
The final goal would be to create a micro-usb to microSD adaptator as small as possible ...
Any better idea ? or product you know ?
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I have been looking for exactly the same thing!
The nearest thing i found is this
Now if only someone made something like this with a micro SD and OTG i would buy one straight away

I was planning to use this with the smallest microSD card reader. Smallest method possible at the moment.
Amazon: SANOXY Micro Male Female Adapter

why the interest in a card reader? Just for the size? seems like a very tiny flash drive would be cheaper per/GB and more flexible.

yes, but even such a solution does not exist based only on micro USB (from what I have found)!

I was just thinking I should take an OTG and attach storage to it, then I saw this thread. So any1 try anything yet?
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grim82 said:
What you need to start is something like this:
http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10425
And manage to swap out the connector.
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I have that one, It's basically the same exact one Kas206 posted but re branded. I wish I still had it to show you a pic of the microSD card glued in there but I lost it (lol down side of being tiny).
EDIT: You can see it at amazon with pics showing the microsd inside http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-m...m05-20&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=390957

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I don't see you getting a whole lot more compact than that.

Card Reader / Charger
Saw this on lifehacker just a few minutes ago. Might be worth it
http://www.amazon.com/iBattz-Keychain-Ejection-MicroSD-blackberry/dp/B007SGNOVQ?tag=gmgamzn-20

arwilson529 said:
Saw this on lifehacker just a few minutes ago. Might be worth it
http://www.amazon.com/iBattz-Keychain-Ejection-MicroSD-blackberry/dp/B007SGNOVQ?tag=gmgamzn-20
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That's a cool little gadget, but not $30 cool.......
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MWBehr said:
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I don't see you getting a whole lot more compact than that.
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What are these? Do you have a product link?
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Censura_Umbra said:
What are these? Do you have a product link?
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium
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http://www.amazon.com/SANOXY-Micro-Male-Female-Adapter/dp/B0027YYMU6/ref=pd_cp_e_3
And you can find "Micro" thumb drives a lot these days.
But why not turn your phone in to a wireless NAS and access it from your N7?

Censura_Umbra said:
What are these? Do you have a product link?
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium
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I made the pictures the links.

SirWill said:
http://www.amazon.com/SANOXY-Micro-Male-Female-Adapter/dp/B0027YYMU6/ref=pd_cp_e_3
And you can find "Micro" thumb drives a lot these days.
But why not turn your phone in to a wireless NAS and access it from your N7?
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Be cautious about the adapter type, don't buy a mini USB when we need micros

What I'd love to see is a case that plugs into the usb port and has a built in microSD slot (or even a full SD slot, don't care which) and a port for charging.

External card reader doesn't work?

I've got an external SD card reader that I've been using on my Galaxy S3. But it doesn't work on my Xperia Z.
The card reader looks like this:
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Is there anything that I can do to get it working on my Xperia Z?
Or does any of you know other external SD card readers that actually work on Xperia Z?
Thanks!

nizarnoor said:
I've got an external SD card reader that I've been using on my Galaxy S3. But it doesn't work on my Xperia Z.
The card reader looks like this:
Is there anything that I can do to get it working on my Xperia Z?
Or does any of you know other external SD card readers that actually work on Xperia Z?
Thanks!
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Xperia Z supports USB OTG
But about this card reader u should card reader itself.
maybe driver or format of cards or ....
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x102x96x said:
Xperia Z supports USB OTG
But about this card reader u should card reader itself.
maybe driver or format of cards or ....
:good:
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The card has been correctly formatted (did it using the phone itself).
And this card reader was basically plug-n-play on my Galaxy S3.
So I'm wondering why it doesn't do the same on my Xperia Z...

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... Anyone?

I'm using an OTG cable and a standard card reader "stick", works fine, I copied over images from my DSLR memory card to my XZ with it just last night.
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nizarnoor said:
I've got an external SD card reader that I've been using on my Galaxy S3. But it doesn't work on my Xperia Z.
The card reader looks like this:
Is there anything that I can do to get it working on my Xperia Z?
Or does any of you know other external SD card readers that actually work on Xperia Z?
Thanks!
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For any device to work using the USB to Host adapter the phone will require drivers to support that device/method.
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alias_neo said:
I'm using an OTG cable and a standard card reader "stick", works fine, I copied over images from my DSLR memory card to my XZ with it just last night.
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Yes that depends if your card reader uses basic/generic USB drivers to operate.
I can plug my usb hard drives into the phone also with no problems.
Also I am guessing that you are plugging that device straight into the phone, if this is the case the phone is very likely not recognising this as a "USB host" device, in all cases that I have used a usb host adaptor, then standard usb cable to connect the device, haven't found a hard drive or USB card reader yet that doesn't work this way.
It is highly likely that there are some pins that need to connected for the phone to switch to that mode.

You connect the ID pin to ground for USB host. One would assume though that since that adapter comes with a microUSB port that it is in fact a host mode capable device.
Any generic mass storage mode service should work so drivers should be a non issue here, either the pictured device is nonstandard or the microUSB port isn't in host mode. There is however a third option, slightly unlikely,which is that bit requires too much power and the XZ won't power it.
I'm not sure how much current the XZ will source but if it sources 500mA, that should do it.
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OTG cable what works and doesn't work

I purchased some cheap OTG cables a while back off Amazon and don't remember them ever working on my Bionic, Thunderbolt, DroidX, LG Revo, Sero 7 Pro, or Nook Color. I plugged a USB stick into it and it worked great on my G2. Even found a way to record the HD 1080 60fps video directly to USB stick via OTG. Also mouse via hub and memory stick all worked together. No go for USB LAN.
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I posted what I've gotten to work and what didn't work on my blog. I'd appreciate some feedback and let me know if you what you've gotten to work with OTG.
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Rohde and Schwarz NRP-Z21 and Z24 power sensors work (when used with an NRP-Z4 USB adaptor cable). Not a very common thing but it sure is convenient if you do need it.

cesar33 said:
I purchased some cheap OTG cables a while back off Amazon and don't remember them ever working on my Bionic, Thunderbolt, DroidX, LG Revo, Sero 7 Pro, or Nook Color. I plugged a USB stick into it and it worked great on my G2. Even found a way to record the HD 1080 60fps video directly to USB stick via OTG. Also mouse via hub and memory stick all worked together. No go for USB LAN.
I posted what I've gotten to work and what didn't work on my blog. I'd appreciate some feedback and let me know if you what you've gotten to work with OTG.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think OTG works without USB host mode on the device. Special kernels were always required on the earlier devices to get anything connected via USB and not to a computer to transfer data. From what I've read, the G2 has USB host mode enabled, so all sorts of stuff should plug right in and work. USB LAN might work with kernel tweaks, but that is beyond my somewhat basic knowledge.
There is a great mini micro SD card reader on another thread that would skip the use of OTG cables for simple storage expansion, and has a USB pass-through for plugging in a stick rather than a card. I believe the cost was around $12. That is a fancy set-up you have there, but seems spendy in comparison.

KrisisTP said:
There is a great mini micro SD card reader on another thread that would skip the use of OTG cables for simple storage expansion, and has a USB pass-through for plugging in a stick rather than a card. I believe the cost was around $12. That is a fancy set-up you have there, but seems spendy in comparison.
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Do you happen to have a link to the thread or the mini micro SD card reader?

_tyler_ said:
Do you happen to have a link to the thread or the mini micro SD card reader?
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It's called the meenova mini SD card reader. Here's a link http://www.meenova.com/ hope everyone likes it
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OTG - Good Work !!!!
Nice work Cesar! im helping a friend with his G2. this is going to make his tethered hotspot phone even better.

Smallest OTG drive/card reader?

I'm looking for an OTG flash drive or microSD reader for my G2, but I would like it to be as small as possible. Can you recommend something?
LG G2

see this thread, we discussed sandisk dual usb otg drive and meenova
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/accessories/dual-usb-drive-t2843382

Hey,
this guy is a great OTG-Plug..
Very fast R/W-Speeds & good looking
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Ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/221399955992
Ideal for Micro USB Sticks:
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Or this Bud: http://www.ebay.com/itm/161385060372
Or this flat one: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1pcs...er-w-3-5mm-Dustproof-Plug-for/1557534083.html
I use both Sticks, both support MicroSD-Cards up to 32GB

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i also have this one, but i don't use it for mobile phone because it needs additional OTG cable to connect it in the micro USB slot of the phone...
although, a really small usb stick with nice price for capacity...

60nine said:
i also have this one, but i don't use it for mobile phone because it needs additional OTG cable to connect it in the micro USB slot of the phone...
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thats why you got the little android with microusb plug in his head and a ordinary USB 2.0A port in his..umm.. yeah... butt

Dodge93 said:
thats why you got the little android with microusb port in his head and a ordinary USB 2.0B plug in his..umm.. yeah... butt
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that's why i have sandisk micro duo which has both in one neat device

What I'd love is something like that Kingston but with microUSB port.

costipl said:
What I'd love is something like that Kingston but with microUSB port.
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see here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/accessories/dual-usb-drive-t2843382

60nine said:
see here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/accessories/dual-usb-drive-t2843382
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Or one of these
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/OTG-Micro-USB/Integral/Integral-64GB-Micro-Fusion-USB-2.0-OTG-Flash-Drive
There are several brands where you plug the whole thing into a PC and the end into a phone, I have one works very well...

I just got one of these ordered. at Amazon Pretty low profile and decent looks with great price and phenomenal reviews. Should have it next week and will report back.
Silicon Power OTG

THIS would be awesome!

joooe said:
THIS would be awesome!
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That's exactly what I'm hoping to find!

I have one question with otg cable i can connect internet pen ( service data 5gb per month) anyone no if exist any problem?

nunjabusiness said:
I just got one of these ordered. at Amazon Pretty low profile and decent looks with great price and phenomenal reviews. Should have it next week and will report back.
Silicon Power OTG
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UPDATE: Got the device and it looks and works great! $8.50 delivered for a 16GB.

Does this thing even exist .. I would love to own it .. I need a small otg connected to my phone all the time because 16 gb isnt enough for me ..
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Take a look at my thread over here http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/accessories/lg-g2-micro-sd-development-t2919537
I'm in the middle of developing a super small micro SD reader for the LG G2 which can be keeped attached to your phone without feeling bulky