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Do you feel Google got this right?

Now I know Google has a lot of very smart people, but you would be hard pressed to prove that to me based on some of the rather inexplicable design decisions made for Android Auto, especially when you consider that one of its primary goals is to minimize distraction when interacting with Android.
Let's start with the voice button. I know it is in the top right corner of our phones and tablets, but that is a lousy reason to locate it in the same place on your car's display. For US drivers, it seems the most inconvenient place for it.
Moving on to how messages are handled, it feels as though Google wants your right hand off the wheel, and your eyes off the road. Consider that when a message comes in, Android Auto interrupts your audio to inform you of that. Does it read it to you, or offer to read it to you at that point? No. It expects you to touch the top of the screen, but you better do it quickly as it will be gone in a few seconds. Then you will most likely have to make several taps on the screen to have Android Auto read you the message, and return to the screen you were previously on.
And when it does read you a message, it tells you can reply by tapping the voice button (that one at the far right corner of the screen). Why doesn't it just ask you if I want to reply instead of requiring more physical interaction with the screen?
There are other distractions as well, albeit fairly minor when compared to the above. For instance, when my phone is connected solely via Bluetooth and I am listening to something, when I exit and then return to my vehicle, playback resumes. But if I'm connected to Android Auto, again I am required to interact with the screen. It is the same with navigation... turn off the car for any reason and you will have to reestablish your route again when you startup.
Now maybe it's just me, but having Android Auto for just a week or so, these seem like pretty big potholes on the road of usability, and some seemingly so obvious that I'm was surprised to experience them.
So, is it really just me? How do you feel about Android Auto's workflow? Do you find it unnecessarily distracting? Does it require more of your attention than it should?

AA has many issues that need to be fixed.
But I feel confident that Google WILL fix these things.
Connected cars are and will be BIG business and Google will not abandon it as they've done with some other things.
Consider how much was fixed and improved in Android itself from v1 through to 5.1.
Note that we've all been waiting for decades for something like AA in our cars. Google has been working on AA for years, and it will take years more to work out the kinks.
Plugging a phone into an AA head unit is a model that has problems but is somewhat temporary. Googles goal is to have Android itself running in the car or HU* and this solution will be superior. I think we will hear more about this at I/O; Android 6 allegedly has AA "baked in".
*Many HUs (Pioneer, Chinese) are already running Android and I think Honda is working on this now.
AFAICT, most people who have seen AA and Apple CarPlay prefer AA, so Google has the advantage here.

mikereidis said:
Consider how much was fixed and improved in Android itself from v1 through to 5.1
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I have... which is a big reason why I bit the bullet. For me, Android was way too rough 'till JB (which is when I switched from iOS). I am hopeful AA's path will be on road with a much higher speed limit.

Oculus trying so hard to break the GearVR Experience ? (Confirmed)

Honestly they are working so hard to break the GearVR Experience and i am not sure why , i know that facebook bought Oculus and we might slowly encounter shift of game in their favor , but then even Samsung is working so hard on busting SamsungVR as well which seams vague .
Is weird that they bravely killed the work around to heat and fast battery drain of applying "Power Saving" option which I am sure almost everybody was using and still nobody complained so far despite that i haven't seen any serious improvement in GearVR software that remedies the battery drain or the heat , i am now down to 10-20 minutes of decent play/watch time before the device is drained and heat like crazy versus 50-60 minutes previously and i am sure almost everybody is suffering from similar case so why isn't anybody complaining ?
As for SamsungVR now the device heats like crazy as you play videos and instead of the good old "Device is heating please wait for it to cool down" i now get "This Movie File Can't be played" 10 minutes into watching it instead knowing they surely want to cover up the heat issue by claiming its an encoding issue where these files played flawlessly on previous versions .
Reorientation , who doesn't use that ? laying down and enjoying the show ? we even begged for that to be implemented over all GearVR apps , is being deprecated from SamsungVR , the new method of reorientation will work only on 1 ax so to only work while facing forward (sitting) , head tilts will not be supported any more .
So what's with the iffy tackle ? why are they destroying what was already awesome ? is it for the sake of something else or they just lost control within the phase of development ?
I decided to start this thread so to all who have previous versions of the system files of oculus that worked flawlessly then broke down in their messing up process to share even if out of scope of my request , so :
Anybody happen to know of the working set of GearVR apps and service apps that are needed to downgrade to prior to the update that restricts the use of GearVR and Power Saving ?
Also Previous SamsungVR app Pre the introduction of sort by folders and 180 degree reorientation ?
-Edit- I was told by both support parties that this approach wont work

So latest updates on this issue , after emailing supports of both Oculus and Samsung VR trying to understand it turns out the following :
apparently Oculus and Samsung have some sort of a conflict of interests and are not working together as a team any more .
Oculus had roughly replied that their Oculus home app require so much processing power so they decided to force users to turn off power saving even if this would heat or drain the phone and let me quote them :
"Oculus home demand high processing power, if this is producing heat or battery drain please consult manufacturer "
MANUFACTURER ?? using that word alone kind of tells a lot , apparently new policies are being adopted where Samsung are not to be considered their sole distributor in mobile world and now they are working for their own interest and "manufacturer" has to comply . Further requests about the possibility to downgrade the software to earlier one were met by them telling that this move is unadvised and unsupported by them and may result that Oculus home and store might cease to work . (Tests needed)
Now Samsung VR on the other hand were clueless , the replies came compassionate , and let me quote :
"We would like to inform you that the orientation works in Samsung VR app for Gear VR, Where you need to double tap the back button on Gear VR ."
"Oh it doesn't ? Please send us photos and URL of the file you wanted to play ."
"It happens with all files ? Please allow us time to see to this ."
"Version 1.689 was out , hope it fixes your problem ."
"Oh it doesn't ."
"The reorientation feature is not working , This might be because of the Oculus had removed this feature from their latest update ." (The support personnel is Indian)
Oooh , Oculus had removed it , and you didn't even know , and that was all support we get . So we pay around 500$ for a phone and extra 100$ for a VR set and few more on store so to play hot potato with you two , fantastic .
So there you go , a fine project down hill , Next .

I have noticed recently I don't get as much play time before my phone overheats and either I'll get the 'needs to cool down' warning or the Gear VR will just crash & reboot.
Your example of only having 20 mins or so now sounds about right to me.
I assumed that the support position would be the same as with their TVs in that you would just get an offshore support person telling you to power it off & on again or do a factory reset so I was kind of resigned to the hope that further updates they push out would deal with it.
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Google Maps performance slowdown

Hi everyone,
I'm newly switched from my G5 to V40. I absolutely am happy with the overall performance.
The only thing I get are some terrible slowdowns after a few secs on Goggle Maps scrolling or digging into some restaurant reviews. It looks like 20-30 FPS. By pulling down the notification bar I can immediately solve the problem for a few minutes. Loading the maps offline or re- installation did not help out.
Do you have any ideas?

I'm experiencing this exact same issue, also in Google Earth. Due to how it's 110 percent reproducible and VERY VERY OBVIOUS it's actually bizzare that there hasn't been more attention given to this. This is very serious when you think about it. I know this is the amoled age and now that we all have disposable screens we aren't supposed to let Google Maps be useful anymore anyway, but still. Seems like some sort of out of touch attempt at power savings due to how it's very obviously not done for performance reasons and how it clears up when you interact with notifications (something that should DECREASE performance if anything, not INCREASE it lol).

I by the way had contacted the service desk of LG and sent them a screen record, that even reflected that topic.
They couldn't see anything weird about it^^...
Can't wait for Android 10. Maybe it is solved although unknown ?

Try clear cache/data, force stop and soft reset. Also weekly soft resets are good for maintenance.

Android 10 in sweden!

Yesterday(9/16-2020) my phone got the android 10 update. How is it in the europe? Any updates in any country?

In the offic Forum the rollout seems to be in Italia, Sweden, Belgium, Germany, Romania, Poland... right now.
But it seems only the retail one but not the Amazon Alexa one.....

I have the reteu version of motorola one zoom. So I don't think that it's only the retail

Reteu is the "normal" parker/zoom version.
(AMZEU)Reteu with release channel AMZEU is the Amazon Alexa Motorola one Zoom Edition.

Just got it in the UK on my amazon alexa device

Motorola One Zoom unusable after Android 10 update
Hi,
I got the official upgrade to Android 10 for the Motorola One Zoom yesterday (Sep. 16, 2020) as well.
I am based out of Switzerland.
For the time being, I strongly recommend NOT to install it.
It broke several things, which makes the phone virtually unusable.
1. Several apps crash almost immediately after starting, including basic functions like Phone (yes, the phone itself, so you cannot place or receive calls), Contacts, parts of the Settings function, Google Play or WhatsApp.
2. Battery drain in stand-by is now between 5 and 10% per 10 minutes. In a couple of hours may the phone is dead. There is only a minor improvement in switching to battery saving mode. If you actually use the phone it drains much faster
3. Bluetooth disconnects every 5-10 seconds. You cannot use any BT earpiece, headset or hands free. BTW, this means the Swiss COVID app, which uses BT to track possible contacts with infected people, is not working either
I had to bring back from the dead an old phone and put it back to work, as the One Zoom is unusable for the time being.
Again, I hope other One Zoom owners will be luckier with Android 10.
Please share you experience....
PS. My One Zoom is an XT-2010-1 and Android 10 build number is QPH30.29-Q3-28-13

fromi2ch59 said:
Hi,
I got the official upgrade to Android 10 for the Motorola One Zoom yesterday (Sep. 16, 2020) as well.
I am based out of Switzerland.
For the time being, I strongly recommend NOT to install it.
PS. My One Zoom is an XT-2010-1 and Android 10 build number is QPH30.29-Q3-28-13
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I received Android 10 in Czech Republic yesterday. It is as stable as it was with Android 9. Battery life is excellent. I don't experience and noticeable standby drain. There is definitely something wrong about your device. I hope they will resolve it with another update.
Overall my Moto Zoom is the most stable phone I've ever had. I believe there are many satisfied used of this phone. But people usually don't post positive feedback.
If anyone reading this from Moto, thank you for this phone. I really enjoy it. I don't even care it was on Android 9 until yesterday as long as it worked fast and stable. Newest software is not always the best software.

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I received Android 10 in Czech Republic yesterday. It is as stable as it was with Android 9. Battery life is excellent. I don't experience and noticeable standby drain. There is definitely something wrong about your device. I hope they will resolve it with another update.
Overall my Moto Zoom is the most stable phone I've ever had. I believe there are many satisfied used of this phone. But people usually don't post positive feedback.
If anyone reading this from Moto, thank you for this phone. I really enjoy it. I don't even care it was on Android 9 until yesterday as long as it worked fast and stable. Newest software is not always the best software.
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I confirm it's a great phone, and I was a delighted Moto One Zoom owner and user, up until the Android 10 upgrade yesterday.
The experience has shaken my enthusiasm and confidence quite a bit, and as a further confirmation that Murphy's Law is still valid, this happened when I most needed the phone to work for professional reasons and caused major disruptions in my activities.
Separately, can you please share your model number and build as well?
It may help me focus my efforts to get the issue fixed with Motorola support.
Thx

Had the update, UK Amazon Alexa edition. So far no probs, no crashes or anything bad to report.
Sadly still no WiFi calling, which is pretty pathetic.

Working good till now
Hi there,
Yesterday I have received the Android 10, I have the Amazon Alexa version, bought from Amazon Italy. Till now is working good, just a little hotter when fast charging.

fromi2ch59 said:
hi,
i got the official upgrade to android 10 for the motorola one zoom yesterday (sep. 16, 2020) as well.
I am based out of switzerland.
For the time being, i strongly recommend not to install it.
It broke several things, which makes the phone virtually unusable.
1. Several apps crash almost immediately after starting, including basic functions like phone (yes, the phone itself, so you cannot place or receive calls), contacts, parts of the settings function, google play or whatsapp.
2. Battery drain in stand-by is now between 5 and 10% per 10 minutes. In a couple of hours may the phone is dead. There is only a minor improvement in switching to battery saving mode. If you actually use the phone it drains much faster
3. Bluetooth disconnects every 5-10 seconds. You cannot use any bt earpiece, headset or hands free. Btw, this means the swiss covid app, which uses bt to track possible contacts with infected people, is not working either
i had to bring back from the dead an old phone and put it back to work, as the one zoom is unusable for the time being.
Again, i hope other one zoom owners will be luckier with android 10.
Please share you experience....
Ps. My one zoom is an xt-2010-1 and android 10 build number is qph30.29-q3-28-13
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坐标：中国
版本：亚马逊官网购买的德国亚马逊版
昨天早上接收到推送，安卓9升级安卓10，还很兴奋。
升级完成后可以上网，但是无法接打电话，朋友用微信告诉我才知道。
我使用的是中国电信，支持cdma，4g，lte，现在感觉很闹心。
请问你的问题解决了吗？

Question Overheat issue as of April 2022

I've been scouring the web trying to find *current* info about the overheating issue, but all I'm finding is stuff from last year. Nothing new about whether it was ever fixed by a software path, or if current inventory has a hardware fix, or if Google just ignored it as they often do. I'd like to know if I buy a new Pixel 5a today, directly from Google, if it still may have the problem. I'd be grateful for any info, thanks!

IMissPalmOS said:
I've been scouring the web trying to find *current* info about the overheating issue, but all I'm finding is stuff from last year. Nothing new about whether it was ever fixed by a software path, or if current inventory has a hardware fix, or if Google just ignored it as they often do. I'd like to know if I buy a new Pixel 5a today, directly from Google, if it still may have the problem. I'd be grateful for any info, thanks!
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I don't play games and I don't use 4k video on my camera. For me phone is great didn't get worm once, but that is just my use, pictures, fullHD video, chat, video calls, phonecalls and browsing and watching videos.

I meet this problem when I take photos or video ([email protected]).

I have had issues by simply using Android Auto in my vehicle in less than 10 minutes of use. I have also experienced the overheating when recording videos even though I have followed all of the tips in Google's support email.

If I'm using Android Auto, I have to keep the phone in front of an AC vent in my car - otherwise all radios shut off within 1-2 minutes, followed a few minutes later by an overheat message (at that point it's already throttled so bad that the phone is completely unusable anyway).
Any teleconference app that uses the front camera causes it to shut down all radios about 1-2 minutes before popping up the overheat message with no warning before turning off radios (Zoom, Mychart, CVS Minute Clinic, Teladoc, even a Facebook Messenger video call). Drove me crazy trying to do a telemedicine appointment with my doctor, he finally called me instead.
Even just trying to do a phone call with Google Maps running during the call makes this damn thing overheat. Taking it out of the case (Spigen Slimarmor) seems to delay it by about a minute.
Honestly, if Fi didn't require me to keep it active for 120 days to keep the discount I got on it, I would have run the damn thing under an 18 wheeler by now. The only benefits over my old OP8T are the camera app and the physical size. That's it. Luckily I still have it, so once I hit that 120 days, I'm going back to the 8T.

Has anyone tried alternate ROMs to see if they handle the overheating issue any better? I'm especially interested in LineageOS. I imagine some kernel changes to scheduling and clocks could handle things better for this processor.