Hey, I haven't rooted anything since 2014, so consider me a newbie,
Is there a way to get only part of the root functionalities, in order to move Cerberus to the system's partition? I think it should only be a matter of privileges. That is the only functionality that I need, I don't want other root features, nor having Knox be affected.
Thanks in advance
Keep in mind rooting would void your warranty. Since it requires unlocking bootloader.
Jake.S said:
Keep in mind rooting would void your warranty. Since it requires unlocking bootloader.
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Not if you're living in the EU. EU has strict regulations about consumer protection when it comes to unlocking bootloader or tripping KNOX in Samsung devices.
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Wondering what the various advantages and disadvantages are to unlocking the bootloader. I have a rooted T-Mobile XT1053 running stock Moto software.
Pro's
Custom ROM's
Kernels
Full access to phone
Con's
Voids warranty completely
Could brick your phone if done incorrectly
Some functions may not work properly
Someone could probably add a bit more (?) And or elaborate.
RenSoAbrupt said:
Pro's
Custom ROM's
Kernels
Full access to phone
Con's
Voids warranty completely
Could brick your phone if done incorrectly
Some functions may not work properly
Someone could probably add a bit more (?) And or elaborate.
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does not void warranty on dev edition
Only one disadvantage, voids warranty on non-dev editions.
hello from Italy,
i'm an happy owner of a new Motorola Moto X XT1052 with stock KK rom
now i want to root my device, to use TB, Grenefy and other app that need root access
i know that i have to unlock bootloader before flash the cwm and flash the supersu apk...
is there any way to unlock bootloader without ask code to Motorola? is there any way to lock bootloader in case i want back warranty?
Thanks boys
No bro...
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You don't need to unlock your BL, you just need root.
waiflih said:
You don't need to unlock your BL, you just need root.
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If you're on 4.4.2 already, you won't get root without an unlocked bootloader. Exploits have not been made for 4.4.2 yet....and trying to downgrade is flirting with bricking.
Rooting and warranty in EU
toroloco73 said:
hello from Italy,
i'm an happy owner of a new Motorola Moto X XT1052 with stock KK rom
now i want to root my device, to use TB, Grenefy and other app that need root access
i know that i have to unlock bootloader before flash the cwm and flash the supersu apk...
is there any way to unlock bootloader without ask code to Motorola? is there any way to lock bootloader in case i want back warranty?
Thanks boys
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You don't automatically lose your warranty in EU if you root your phone and even if you unlock the bootloader.
In EU you are covered with the Directive 99/44/EC and appropriate national legislation in your country. Any seller's contract which doesn't meet commercial guaranty provisions either laid down in the Directive or in your national legislation is void regarding provisions in conflict (Non-conformity of the commercial guarantee with the provisions of the Directive does not affect its validity and the consumer may still require that the guarantee be honored). So rooting or unlocking the bootloader despite otherwise stated in the contract doesn't affect the warranty as long as the seller can't prove that the failure or malfunction of the device is a result of a misuse or damage out of seller's or producer's responsibility. It's a simple question of burden of proof: Buyer must prove malfunction of the device within two years period after purchase if he wants to claim seller's responsibility and seller shall prove that malfunction derives from circumstances caused from inappropriate use or damage whether he want to be excluded from responsibility.
You have nothing to lose if you restore the original state before submitting the phone to service. Make nandroid immediately after rooting and flash original sbf from Motorola website before using a service and you are set. Of course there is a completely different story if you damage android system so badly that you can't get back to the original. The seller is not obliged to mess with your modification of the system.
And you are covered with the legislation only when you buy a phone as a natural person. the Directive 99/44/EC doesn't cover rights of legal persons regarding warranty claims.
I have my bootloader unlocked for nearly half a year now and I feel totally comfortable.
in Italy if you root the device you lose warranty....
toroloco73 said:
in Italy if you root the device you lose warranty....
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You mean: It is rumored that you lose warranty if you root the phone in Italy. Italy adopted the above mentioned directive in 2005 and this directive doesn't permit any deviation toward a detriment of consumer's rights. It's the service providers who spread a word about lost warranty in case of the rooted phone. It's easy and profitable to refuse any service on the ground of unpermitted modification. But rooting is not unpermitted neither it void warranty. If you stand up for your rights they'll recognise their obligation.
Do I lose any features like on xperia phones when unlocking bootloader?
Your device will be wiped when unlocking and (unless you take measures to hide it) an unlocked bootloader will trigger SafetyNet (if you care about that).
Other than that, no worries.
Does 3T have any tamper flags and do they affect android pay?
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No
No tamper flags. You won't lose your warranty by unlocking the bootloader or rooting a OnePlus device. Gonna quote their official faq:
"The technical process of rooting or unlocking the bootloader does not void the warranty of a OnePlus device. However, we strongly suggest for you to only root or unlock the bootloader of your OnePlus device if you are confident in your understanding of the risks involved.
By accessing resources regularly unavailable to the software, you may damage your hardware during or after the procedure. Such damage is not covered under warranty. In warranty handling, we will first need to verify that any faulty behavior is unrelated to rooting / unlocking."
Unlocking your bootloader affects AP in the way that it'll trip SafetyNet and AP won't work. You'll need to use some way of hiding it (kernel, Magisk, etc).
As i am coming from Samsung, i want to know if there is any risk of loosing functions that are protected???
With sony, it were some camera functions i lost when i rooted it, on my note 3 it was the efuse etc...
So is there anything i have to worry about?
Bolvaron said:
As i am coming from Samsung, i want to know if there is any risk of loosing functions that are protected???
With sony, it were some camera functions i lost when i rooted it, on my note 3 it was the efuse etc...
So is there anything i have to worry about?
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Rooting itself does nothing that you mentioned.
Using a firmware other than the one intended or flashing outside of the natural progression which was intended is what breaks those things
Samsung- efuse chip is triggered when you use Odin, not rooting.
With Sony when I had a Z1 it was using a non standard ROM or: Cm or aosp which meant the standard savers didn't work as it wasn't ported unless they really tightened up their DRM.
In this regard its the same, but the camera has already been ported, its in the ROM section of this forum, so no worry there, I don't know if there is an efuse chip on the Huawei but I do know they're funny about bootloaders being unlocked and further modifying so there may be a way for them to know and they'll probably blame any issues as a result of that regardless of what it is if they can prove it.
That being said there are reports of users who've totally bricked their phones and already have replacements so I would say it depends.
With unlocking the bootloader and modifying your phone against the advice of OEM's always carries a risk, so it's up to you if you continue.
Personally I'll do what I want with my phone, by buying it it's my choice and I'll do what I want.
Can't you root the p20 pro without unlocking the bootloader?
paysen said:
Can't you root the p20 pro without unlocking the bootloader?
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No, first of All you need to do is unlock the bootloader.
I came also from Samsung, i unlocked my P20 pro and then i rooted. And i had no impairment.
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Okay, thanks for your answers. So ill root mine too, got my bootloader unlock code from huawei.
I suppose you loose warranty the moment you use the bootloader code. P.s. how do you request a code?
Thx
varignet said:
I suppose you loose warranty the moment you use the bootloader code. P.s. how do you request a code?
Thx
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Check out guides on this forum. There are quite a few places that explain how to do it.
For example a thread has all info: [GUIDE] - How to root debrand and/or remove Retail mode for P20pro CLT-L29
Can't post any links yet gotta get through my first 10 posts.
Hi all,
Is there a way to root the zenfone 8 without tripping knox? Reading about the ramdump issues has made me want to keep the device in a state that I can reverse and send back if need be (at least for a while).
Cheers
Knox in an Asus phone? It's a Samsung thing.
There is no KNOX.
But if you unlock your bootloader - then ASUS will receive your s/n of motherboard and you will loose your warranty permanently. I heard that in some EU countries it should'n be a problem, but personally I have never had such law practice.
So wait for other replies or contact your area ASUS support.
Ah, okay thanks. Am I correct in thinking there is no root that can be done without unlocking bootloader and flashing a patched boot img? Sorry if these are silly questions, it has been a while for me!
lilfellabob said:
Am I correct in thinking there is no root that can be done without unlocking bootloader
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That is correct. From what I understand; without an unlocked bootloader, nothing regarding boot images or system files are accessible.
Since Android 6 'regular' rooting requires an unlocked bootloader. There are exploit solutions like Kingoroot, which maybe still might work (not sure a bout this), but the problem with these dubious tools is, that you don't know what they really are doing, and how they possibly modify and monitor your phone and data from then on..
Elmarigo said:
Since Android 6 'regular' rooting requires an unlocked bootloader. There are exploit solutions like Kingoroot, which maybe still might work (not sure a bout this), but the problem with these dubious tools is, that you don't know what they really are doing, and how they possibly modify and monitor your phone and data from then on..
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Okay, thanks. Yeah, I don't think I want to travel down that road!