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[Q] Could this actually work? (HTCDev Warranty Void Workaround Idea)

Long store short: HTCDev site allows for easy unlocking but it requires the user to enter a token that marks them in their system as having an unlocked bootloader, thereby allowing them to void your warranty in cases where software modifications had no play in hardware faults.
The problem: Revone grants S-Off but I heard from an XDA thread stating that the new OTA update for the HTC One might have patched this exploit; the current and only RUU available is this current version. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2375223&page=14) I have accidentally reset my phone before and it actually downgrades this update, making it possible for the Revone exploit to work.
So here is my plan to bypass this (This is my first time playing with an Android phone so I'm not sure if this would even work.):
1.) Reset phone to out-of-box version.
2.) Backup stock ROM. (Don't know if this is possible without root; if not, then my plan is screwed.)
3.) Use Revone to obtain S-Off,
4.) Change MID and CID, then flash Google Play Edition RUU.
5.) Unlock bootloader via "fastboot oem unlock" to bypass HTCDev unlock.
To Revert Back to Stock:
6.) Use Revone to remove "tampered" and change "unlocked" to "locked." (not "re-locked")
(Another method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2044670)
7.) Flash the backup of the stock ROM.
8.) Remove S-Off with "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3."
(Not sure if this works but the source is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25173401)
9.) Send back to HTC with an active warranty.
Could this theoretically work? Sorry about the noob-ness; I use to be an iSheep so forgive my ignorance if all of this is just complete crap.
Edit: The point of this is to keep the version of stock ROM that is exploitable with Revone so S-Off can be obtained once more. If unless someone can confirm that the current T-Mobile RUU is exploitable.

This will only work if you're not on the new boatloader before you try to s-off.
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I don't know of a way you will be able to backup the stock ROM without having a custom recovery which requires an unlock. At least backing up everything system/data as you alluded. It would require CWR or TWRP.
You also will be required to change your MID and CID back as well before going stock, I'll admit its a little dangerous but everything except the backup seems sound.
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You're making this complicated for no reason :S Get S-Off, flash stock rom found on Android Development forum, send it to HTC S-Off, they don't care. They have bigger issues at the moment anyway, what with losing half their design team.

yorkies88888 said:
Long store short: HTCDev site allows for easy unlocking but it requires the user to enter a token that marks them in their system as having an unlocked bootloader, thereby allowing them to void your warranty in cases where software modifications had no play in hardware faults.
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I believe your basic premise that unlocking your bootloader via HTCDev website method leads to your warranty becoming void is incorrect.
The following article explains in some detail why your warranty remains intact
http://android-revolution-hd.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/unlocking-bootloader-or-flashing-custom.html?m=1
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paul_59 said:
I believe your basic premise that unlocking your bootloader via HTCDev website method leads to your warranty becoming void is incorrect.
The following article explains in some detail why your warranty remains intact
http://android-revolution-hd.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/unlocking-bootloader-or-flashing-custom.html?m=1
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Unfortunately, HTC Repair Centres will void warranty if they see it is unlocked or tampered, and the article you linked is old and cannot be used as fact. Many people have had their warranties voided because of this. Sure, go sue HTC, but you will spend a lot of time, effort and cash doing that

Yes they can and will void your warranty, you knew the risks with unlocking the bootloader...should do your your
Research more in depth.
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Matt said:
Unfortunately, HTC Repair Centres will void warranty if they see it is unlocked or tampered, and the article you linked is old and cannot be used as fact. Many people have had their warranties voided because of this. Sure, go sue HTC, but you will spend a lot of time, effort and cash doing that
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Most countries will have some form of consumer protection legislation, your legal rights will obviously vary from country to country.
In the the UK it's covered by the Sale of goods act . Throughout the rest of Europe there is equivalent legislation under a EU directive
There is no need for anyone to sue HTC or other company in order to obtain your legal right of redress should goods that you have bought new subsequently become faulty.
I am certain that USA and numerous other countries will have similar legislation.
I have read many posts on xda from people who reported that their phone had been repaired or replaced, having previously unlocked via HTC dev .
If you and others choose to believe otherwise, then that's fine with me, I just feel that what I sincerely believe is a misinformed opinion shouldn't go unchallenged.
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Matt said:
Unfortunately, HTC Repair Centres will void warranty if they see it is unlocked or tampered, and the article you linked is old and cannot be used as fact. Many people have had their warranties voided because of this. Sure, go sue HTC, but you will spend a lot of time, effort and cash doing that
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I've actually just returned mine and I had no way to remove the tampered flag etc but they didn't bill me ... They didn't fix it either though lol, they said they'd changed the camera but the same fault still exists.
I spoke to a guy at HTC and he basically said your warranty would only be void if the fault was caused as a result of something you flashed or as a result of unlocking the bootloader (he mentioned the motherboard specifically). The problem I have is that I don't trust them enough to send it back again, I'd already been without it for 2 weeks and after all that it wasn't any different. My main concern though is that they could tell me the warranty was void and I couldn't do a thing but pay £25 to get me phone returned to me, un-repaired, or pay them to repair it, both are out of the question lol

You are over complicating the process. Assuming you are able to obtain s-off, as it is impossible for some one owners currently, use revone to s-off. Revone can also unlock the boot loader, so no need for htcdev at all.
If you want a GPe one, flash the ruu zip. If not, don't. But remember, if you just want GPe, you can flash a ROM. The ruu zip contains all the firmware too for a full conversion. You should change cid if you do it, to get ota's, but mid change is unnecessary.
When getting ready to return for warranty, if necessary, flash an official RUU.exe. You will need to lock your boot loader for this, and again, revone has a tool built in to lock it, not relock. You will not need to reset the tampered flag, because being s-off prior to flashing the custom recovery for the first time causes your phone to never run the security checks that flag it as tampered in the first place. Remember to change your cid to match the RUU.exe that you flashed. And leave the phone s-off when you turn it in. It may return in a state where you could not re s-off it. Also a few devices made it into the market this way, so they can not use it as a basis for voiding your warranty.
TL;DR:
Revone elimates the need to use HTCDev completely.
Do or don't flash GPe, that's up to you, but not a necessity.
An RUU will bring your phone completely back to stock, no need for backup.
Leave it s-off when you send it in.
Edit;
When I say no need for a backup, I mean if you're s-off and if you only need to get your device to 100% out of the box condition.
If you're playing around and flashing this and that, by all means, backup, backup, backup. You will be happy you did when you have to use one and don't need to start from the ground up.
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Matt said:
Unfortunately, HTC Repair Centres will void warranty if they see it is unlocked or tampered, and the article you linked is old and cannot be used as fact. Many people have had their warranties voided because of this. Sure, go sue HTC, but you will spend a lot of time, effort and cash doing that
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They've always replaced and repaired my rooted/tampered phones, including HTC One.

Receiving a New Moto X - How can I keep it from updating so that I can root?

So I'm getting a new moto x dev edition (gsm) today and I want to know if it's possible to keep it from doing the OTA update so that I can root with PwnMyMoto and avoid voiding my warranty.
Can I boot the phone up with no SIM and no wifi connection, and then use "adb push" to get the PwnMyMoto packages onto the phone?
Thanks!

glitch003 said:
So I'm getting a new moto x dev edition (gsm) today and I want to know if it's possible to keep it from doing the OTA update so that I can root with PwnMyMoto and avoid voiding my warranty.
Can I boot the phone up with no SIM and no wifi connection, and then use "adb push" to get the PwnMyMoto packages onto the phone?
Thanks!
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Just don't accept the OTA update or postpone it to later. No big deal

rmead01 said:
Just don't accept the OTA update or postpone it to later. No big deal
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So the update won't install automatically? I'm concerned because I never clicked "update" on my old moto x dev edition (returned due to dust under camera lens), yet it was on system version 139.12.57 and JCase said "Any System Version newer than and including 139.12.54 will not be compatible with this exploit."
So does that mean they're shipping with 139.12.57 now and my only choice is to void my warranty to unlock the bootloader and use TWRP to root?

If you are getting the Dev Edition, you are out of luck. It is already updated. You will need to unlock the bootloader (void your warranty) and install SuperSU through custom recovery. Mine, opened two days ago, had 139.12.57 out of the box.

Ok, that confirms my fears. Thanks for setting the record straight.
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glitch003 said:
Ok, that confirms my fears. Thanks for setting the record straight.
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But you have a dev edition so it doesn't matter bc you can always unlock and root. Plus p3droid has already shown on Google+ how to relock the bootloader

That is true but with the condition that I lose my warranty. Which is something I would really rather avoid for a $700 device (with tax).
Relocking the bootloader doesn't help because Motorola voids the warranty when you request the unlock code
I guess I'll order parts from ifixit if I ever have any hardware issues and just repair them myself....
Sent from my XT1053 now Free

I'm planning on unlocking/rooting when I order my dev edition next week and buying a SquareTrade warranty. They are around $100/2 years with a $99 deductible but they cover everything except theft/loss. Plus if you sell your phone before the two years is finished the return the cash of the unused months, or you have the option to pay monthly for the warranty(works out to be more $ though).
glitch003 said:
That is true but with the condition that I lose my warranty. Which is something I would really rather avoid for a $700 device (with tax).
Relocking the bootloader doesn't help because Motorola voids the warranty when you request the unlock code
I guess I'll order parts from ifixit if I ever have any hardware issues and just repair them myself....
Sent from my XT1053 now Free
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[Q] Cyanogenmod on XZ

So, I want to install Cyanogenmod on my XZ, using flashtool to unlock the bootloader and doomlord's expliots to root.
However, won't rooting first re-lock the bootloader? Or unlocking the bootloader remove root? Both things wipe the everything, so... Help lpease?

Whatever you do, be sure to backup your TA partition before you unlock your bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598. To do this, you first need to root your device without unlocking your bootloader.
Otherwise you will lose your DRM keys permanently and you will never be able to use certain functions (like Mobile BRAVIA Engine 2) anymore, not even if you relock your bootloader and restore to a stock ROM.
Please also note that by requesting a bootloader unlock key from Sony, the IMEI number of your phone gets blacklisted and your warranty is void.

Apollo89 said:
Please also note that by requesting a bootloader unlock key from Sony, the IMEI number of your phone gets blacklisted and your warranty is void.
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Hi Apollo89, are you sure about that?

CiscoX said:
Hi Apollo89, are you sure about that?
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Go to http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/unlock/step1. At step 2, you need to agree with the following legal terms before you can continue:
I acknowledge that use of the boot loader may void the phone’s warranty.
I acknowledge that, if Sony does perform any warranty repairs, Sony may charge a service fee for additional costs associated with the modified software.
So if a phone with an unlocked bootloader (or relocked bootloader) needs to be repaired, your warranty may be void, it's completely up to Sony to decide about that and they have the legal right to charge you for the repair because you agreed to those terms. If that's fine with you, you can continue to unlock your bootloader and flash a custom ROM like CyanogenMod. I myself would only consider this after official firmware updates have been discontinued.

Apollo89 said:
Go to http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/unlock/step1. At step 2, you need to agree with the following legal terms before you can continue:
I acknowledge that use of the boot loader may void the phone’s warranty.
I acknowledge that, if Sony does perform any warranty repairs, Sony may charge a service fee for additional costs associated with the modified software.
So if a phone with an unlocked bootloader (or relocked bootloader) needs to be repaired, your warranty may be void, it's completely up to Sony to decide about that and they have the legal right to charge you for the repair because you agreed to those terms. If that's fine with you, you can continue to unlock your bootloader and flash a custom ROM like CyanogenMod. I myself would only consider this after official firmware updates have been discontinued.
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Damn, so you say if i request an unlock key for my bootloader, but never use it. Do it still void my warranty. I mean, maybe some people change there mind after they request the unlock key and never use it to unlock the bootloader.

CiscoX said:
Damn, so you say if i request an unlock key for my bootloader, but never use it. Do it still void my warranty. I mean, maybe some people change there mind after they request the unlock key and never use it to unlock the bootloader.
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You should only request the key if you're going to unlock your phone. Sony has no way to check if you unlocked your phone and then restored a TA backup, so that's why they require you to register your IMEI number.

Apollo89 said:
You should only request the key if you're going to unlock your phone. Sony has no way to check if you unlocked your phone and then restored a TA backup, so that's why they require you to register your IMEI number.
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ahhh, Thanks you so much for the information Apollo89

CiscoX said:
ahhh, Thanks you so much for the information Apollo89
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Anyway, if Sony refuses warranty, you could go to court and argue that you only requested the key, but didn't use it. Then it's up to the judge to decide if requesting the key (and agreeing to those terms) is enough evidence or not. However, I think most people won't go to court and just pay for the repair or buy a new phone. What I meant to say is: just be careful and think twice before doing such modifications

I think Denmark have pretty strict rules to protect the consumer, so I really doubt that Sony would get away with applying these rules here - but this definitely makes me not want to unlock the bootloader before I have seen Sonys 4.4 firmware.
Thanks for the info!
That being said, I think Sonys stock ROM works really well.
I'm rootet, running SwiftKey, Handcent SMS, Aqua Mail, HD Widgets an Apex Launcher Pro. I get 3 - 4 hours of screen time on stock settings.
I have no reason to really want another ROM.
Had it been a Samsung or HTC device I would have needed to strip the device of all the bloat
ware and get rid the massive battery drain, caused by wake locks from the manufacturers ROM.
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Warranty void post root?

Hi,
I'm trying to choose between buying a K20 Pro (when it releases in India on 17th) or a OnePlus 7.
I remember that that the warranty of older Mi phones would not be considered void if it was rooted or only the bootloader was unlocked. If I remember it correctly, it would be voided only if a custom ROM was flashed.
So, is this the same scenario with the K20 Pro? What can be done without voiding the warranty?
Thanks

Isn't that the case for any make and model of smartphones?

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Isn't that the case for any make and model of smartphones?
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I don't think so. Rooting voids the warranty of most phones. Xiaomi, OnePlus and another OEM were the only ones who allowed rooting without voiding the warranty.
Also, the info I remember is from 4~5 years ago, so I might be wrong.

tsg97 said:
I don't think so. Rooting voids the warranty of most phones. Xiaomi, OnePlus and another OEM were the only ones who allowed rooting without voiding the warranty.
Also, the info I remember is from 4~5 years ago, so I might be wrong.
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I had an OP3, rooting voids warranty, same case with my SGNote2.

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I had an OP3, rooting voids warranty, same case with my SGNote2.
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Any idea about the K20?? Will rooting it voids it's warranty too?

Unlocking the bootloader doesn't, rooting will.

Unlocking or rooting shouldn't void your warranty. Also I'd given my RN4 for replacing the board and I had a custom ROM in it but I still got it replaced under warranty. There's no official statement but you can always revert back to a stock ROM before giving it for repair

Question Make cerberus factory-reset resilient

Hey, I haven't rooted anything since 2014, so consider me a newbie,
Is there a way to get only part of the root functionalities, in order to move Cerberus to the system's partition? I think it should only be a matter of privileges. That is the only functionality that I need, I don't want other root features, nor having Knox be affected.
Thanks in advance

Keep in mind rooting would void your warranty. Since it requires unlocking bootloader.

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Keep in mind rooting would void your warranty. Since it requires unlocking bootloader.
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Not if you're living in the EU. EU has strict regulations about consumer protection when it comes to unlocking bootloader or tripping KNOX in Samsung devices.