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Hi all,
This is my first post, although I have been following the group for a long time. My post is motivated by the observation that a massive imbalance exists, particularily in the Legend development community.
There is a huge mass of non-contributing users badgering a small group of hard-working developers, whilst free-loading off the many hours they spend trying to improve the Legend for all of us. (BTW - I'm not pointing any fingers that don't equally apply to myself!) The value of the hours they are putting in is huge, and the return amounts only to the occational humble click of a thanks button.
I have written to the XDA owners and proposed that they implement a system whereby users can donate to a specific thread, and that each month the proceeds of thoses donations are distributed to posters according to the distribution of new "thanks" clicks to them. Unfortunately I have not heard anything in reply, so in the meantime I propose that we start here in the Legend development forum in a less systematic way.
For example; all of us eagerly following ogo2's thread on his Alpha rom should support how we can. We have all heard BlaYO's hesitance to get too involved in that he needs another Legend to do development work on, as he can't render his own out of service for days on end. Absolutely fair point. I would suggest that all active developers in here create a donation account somewhere so that the rest of us ungrateful, free-loading scavengers (again, myself included, and meant in the most positive way! ) can contribute.
Let's get BlaYO a second development Legend, or ogo2 some resources on Linux compilation etc. It's the least we can do, even if we are just selfishly offering to help them, help us
It would not take much, and I am quite certain that anyone who can afford a Legend can also afford to donate $10-20 now and then. What a small price to pay for all the hours that our devs spend working to bring all of us the latest and greatest. Let's give something back!
There were a bunch of users that actually donated to my PayPal account (a few months ago I didn't believe this could happen by the way).
I'd personally object to such a system for various reasons, the main one being complication of something which is a pretty simple in fact: You like the work of someone, you donate (or buy).
Moreover, there are a few CM developers whose work on their device (which happens to use an msm7227 chipset) directly influences the Legend too and therefore my work as well. They are not active in the Legend forum though.
So what I basically want to say: There's a lot of work going on – not hours but weeks – which you might never see because these almost unmoderated boards here are full of you-name-it and every CM developer I know pretty much dislikes XDA for that very reason.
You don't see us (40+ developers) working, but that doesn't mean we aren't.
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Ah, and by the way, I've been busy too, so tiwlan on 2.6.35 is almost finished.
ali ba said:
Ah, and by the way, I've been busy too, so tiwlan on 2.6.35 is almost finished.
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Is this meaning that the new CM7s will have the new kernel?
By the way, what was modified in the kernel source so the tiwlan didn't compile normaly?
I don't need a new Legend, I just need some peace...
There you go
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I don't need a new Legend, I just need some peace...
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Peace be with you
Hmmm... OK, I get that my proposal could have some shortcomings, however the intent is good. It's great to hear that users donated to your Paypal, Ali Ba, perhaps other devs should just publish Paypal details too, and users can direct donations to where they feel they are most deserved?
It is not meant to be fair compensation for the numerous hours spent, as the basic principles of community development should still be the driving force. It could, however, be a token of appreciation from those unable to contribute in any other way.
I can't help but feel that there would be more devs involved with more and faster progress as a consequence, if only there was a little reward in there too. Surely that would be in everybodies interest.
In any event, I offer my thanks to all the devs here, and I would be happy to back that up with a contribution, should you decide to go that way
ali ba said:
Ah, and by the way, I've been busy too, so tiwlan on 2.6.35 is almost finished.
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I was working on getting wl12xx driver working with 2.6.32 kernel but I didn't succeed yet. Is there a reason not to switch to wl12xx driver instead? It also provides soft AP support int the same driver.
Regarding donations, it would be nice if I could donate you via Google checkout.
Thanks.
Yea leave Blay0 alone man, He's getting enough hassle on the Alpha thread as it is! people say they'd like to help then just request more things like a2sd,overclocked kernel etc.If you know anything about linux try helping by trying to build drivers for the last 2 bits (i.e Bluetooth,wifi)
I must say also that there were individuals who offered me donations which I respectfully refused and instead apoint those guys to their nearest charity. I'm not doing this for money (I make money doing other things) I'm just doing it coz I like to know how things work and I always like to learn new things. So if I become bored those donations definitely won't convince me to keep on doing it.
Don't you guys ever think that I'm doing all this for you! Noooope! I'm doing it for me and my own satisfaction. Yes, that's right I'm actualy a selfish, egoistic basterd but in a process of achieving my own goals (which are also inspired by some of your suggestions) I'm really happy if someone else learn something from me. They are few but it doesn't matter... they will definitelly pass on their knowledge and that's important coz I believe knowledge is universal and must be available to anyone willing to accept it and you cannot charge for that.
Don't kidd yourselves, this Legend thingie will be among us at most for another year and then it will get its successors and its community will become even smaller and eventually it will be disbanded and some of us will find new projects, learnig new thing and again passing on all the gained knowledge.
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Don't kidd yourselves, this Legend thingie will be among us at most for another year.
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A whole year is an optimistic approach
The main problem in the development of the HTC Legend is the device itself. It's a rare phone, and pretty much a very small group of people is using it. That also makes the group of talented developers thinner. Look at the Hero or SGS forums topic/post count. Sure - most of them are retarded, and previously answered questions, but still folks in the dev section are coding some crazy and amazing stuff. That's because those devices where popular and successful. The HTC Legend was ment to be the successor of the HTC Hero, but this ain't gonna happen. Nobody will remember this phone in a year or two. That's of course HTCs fault, not ours.
Also mentioning all the request, demands and stupid questions in the dev forum - this forum is not that bad
Go check the Nexus S section. For example the NexusSense topic (my girlfriend got a Nexus so I'm somewhat interested). Now that's pure fukcin massacre out there
Greets!
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA Premium App
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A whole year is an optimistic approach
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Agreed, I thought Legend was a kickass sucessor, but very few people actually bought it...I've deserted to Desire S, but I think that's a very similar case so far anyways...
But back on topic: The thing is, everyone has an interest in what he's doing and unless he has a gain from that work he wouldn't be doing it But the idea of donating is noble ofcourse
Let's support our developers by not asking stupid and obvious questions, using search button, hitting that freakin' "thanks" button as often as we can, and most importantly by using our own brains to gain even more from their work
Dr.Romca said:
Let's support our developers by not asking stupid and obvious questions, using search button, hitting that freakin' "thanks" button as often as we can, and most importantly by using our own brains to gain even more from their work
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Amen! (10char )
Agree with the great Dr!
PLUS This is a General thread so should be in the general section.....Threads should go into the right forums for a start! Hate to think how many threads there are in the wrong place :/
Hey guys n gals,
Im xCile, why am xCile? Because I have an auto immune disorder which has left me disabled & bed bound
This board seems to tick all the boxes for what I am interested in Since I cannot do Physical Hacking anymore with Soldering/reballing BGA's/JTAG's etc
The n00b video was a bit off a lol but I need to face the fact that I am back too being a n00b, especially because I have move too a new PC platform (yeah the one with the fruit logo unfortunately)
Please excuse my typos as I only have the use off 1 Hand (Which i'm gratefull for) my eyes & memory are not so great either, I did try an see where too post an introduction so i thought the general section would be a safe bet so I appoligise in advance if I have it wrong right out off the gate.
I am sure I can contribute and help here as I've moderated on other boards before
Regards
xCile
Hello, and welcome to xda. There's an introduction thread in this very forum - just check the sticky threads in future before searching as you'll no doubt find what you're looking for quicker.
Have fun and enjoy bricking your device
JK
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961655
HI you guys are awesome
Well hi all, I'm 'new', but not really that new, since I've been searching through XDA topics on many occasions for quite a few years now. Not sure why it took me so long to actually make an account, but here I am.
So about me - half geek, half creative, F/LOSS enthusiast for over 20 years, full time Linux user since 2006, interested in way to many subjects to ever become a specialist in any of them within at least a dozen of life spans. Hence I don't think I'll ever be able to call myself a developer, but hey, we'll see ;-)
Hello everyone, i'm back here after a long, long time
I used to read alot here when i was 10 - 15 but I think i switched to iOs during 2010s and i never really had my phone in the center of my occupations so i bought some macbook & iphone and i started to learn code. (mostly js)
I would be really happy to help users here, if i can, and discuss about my new device. 2020s seems to be redditable as **** tbh, the xda lost kid became some kind of creative dev who's going back to the r00t
Thank you for everything I have read here over the last years!
More than anything, XDA is a community, and we're all here for different reasons.
Some are here to mod their phone--some joined just to ask a question. Or perhaps, like many, you joined so long ago, you have no idea why you're here (which is totally fine! we've been around for almost a decade). And we're in the process of making XDA more useful to everyone here now that we've moved to much better forum software.
But we'd love to know your XDA story: why are you here, and who are you? What's your day job, what phones do you have, where do you live, what do you like to do for fun? We'd love to get to know you!
Also, be sure to spend some time filling out your profile:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/account/account-details
And also adding what phones you have to your inventory:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/account/xda-devices
thanks and welcome. I'm one of the guys in charge and my DMs are always open if you ever want to chat or even complain.
Go ahead and make a new thread in this forum instead of replying to this post.
svetius said:
More than anything, XDA is a community, and we're all here for different reasons.
Some are here to mod their phone--some joined just to ask a question. Or perhaps, like many, you joined so long ago, you have no idea why you're here (which is totally fine! we've been around for almost a decade). And we're in the process of making XDA more useful to everyone here now that we've moved to much better forum software.
But we'd love to know your XDA story: why are you here, and who are you? What's your day job, what phones do you have, where do you live, what do you like to do for fun? We'd love to get to know you!
Also, be sure to spend some time filling out your profile:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/account/account-details
And also adding what phones you have to your inventory:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/account/xda-devices
thanks and welcome. I'm one of the guys in charge and my DMs are always open if you ever want to chat or even complain.
Go ahead and make a new thread in this forum instead of replying to this post.
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Glad u no longer have to post in that old sticky pinned thread which is Here
New introductions forum is this way > https://forum.xda-developers.com/f/introductions.12157/
What's up,
I'm youngspeed and I'm here to further my knowledge on tech. But I also have a few questions.
1 how do I sign in to the app because it redirects me to my browser to confirm authorization but when I do it takes me back to the XDA app but doesn't sign me in. (Update: I was able to sign in so I don't have a question about this anymore)
2 does anyone know how to get Google Camera on the Samsung A10e without rooting or flashing because I have been trying but no success. If there is a way can you send the apk please?
And lastly how do I make a discussion? Thanks
Hello to all.
i have 2 samsung
Samsung S8 SM-G950F
Vers: One UI 1.0
Vers: Android 9 (not rotated)
Samsung Galaxy A6 + SM-A605FN _: Edit.
Vers: One UI 2.0
Vers: Android 10
rotated: twrp_3.2.3-1_sm-a605_141218 / RMM-State_Bypass_Mesa_v2 / no-verity-opt-encrypt-6.0 / Magisk-v21.4_
(I had tried, Magisk-v20.3) not good! (cellular brick)
the reboot problem appears to me often. twrp ...
Hope we can learn from you, thank you!
Ciao a tutti.
ho 2 Samsung
Samsung S8 SM-G950F
Vers: One UI 1.0
Vers: Android 9 (non ruotato)
Samsung Galaxy A6 + SM-A605FN _:Edit.
Vers: One UI 2.0
Vers: Android 10
ruotato: twrp_3.2.3-1_sm-a605_141218 / RMM-State_Bypass_Mesa_v2 / no-verity-opt-encrypt-6.0 / Magisk-v21.4_
(Avevo provato, Magisk-v20.3) non va bene! (mattone cellulare)
il problema di riavvio mi appare spesso. twrp ...
Spero che possiamo imparare da te, grazie!
Hello. I have an LG expression 3 and a MotoG 7 power .i am here looking for a ROM or theme for both phones.
A while back I had an AOPk boot animation that was awesome and the alien ROM ( I think) . it had awesome fonts and icons. I was wondering if UI theme kitchen is still around and if either phone is rootable and or would be compatible with the theme kitchen. ?? Its been a while but I really hope you can help me find something . both phones are pretty plain and boring .
Hey All,
I am a Redmi 5 user and I am here in XDA to find a way to root my phone and also see that, if there is any possibility that I can upgrade the Android version as mine is stuck at version 8.
Well i like the internet especially for the opportunity to learn from others and share information with people that equaly appreciate the content as much as i do.
Here i gonna admid i am more on the newby side.. I played around with phones in the past. Mostly following up tutorials of people that really understand what they are doing... And this way i can create something with their help that me on my own would be hard to accomplish... We build on each other in different aspects of life and here i am appreciating to receive knowledge of the ones that are really into electronics/software/programming. ..
Its a strange, extremly complex but logic world that i find myself in when dealing with modifiying electronics .
Thanks for sharing this with me
Hi all,
I was in read-only mode for years and now I had to reply to a post.
I've got a Samsung S8, S20 FE, Chinese Android car head unit. I'm interested in Android apps to make my devices more usable, comfortable and so.
Thanks for everyone
Hi there!
I hope I can find all the answer for my question without posting, so I don't bother you
Heya, I am Aaron, joined XDA for useful apps, support and to comment under programs or roms I use, nothing much to know about me
Hi everyone.
Glad to have stumbled upon this wonderful community. Hope to consider myself a developer too very soon taking the wealth of resources here into consideration.
Will put substantial effort in abiding by all rules and regulations.
Thank you and best wishes
Lolula J. said:
Hi everyone.
Glad to have stumbled upon this wonderful community. Hope to consider myself a developer too very soon taking the wealth of resources here into consideration.
Will put substantial effort in abiding by all rules and regulations.
Thank you and best wishes
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Welcome!
Hi,
I've just joined to find a solution for my update problem for my unlocked Att LG Velvet. I'm also interested in learning more about flashing firmwares, custom ROMs when the time comes.
GaborIvanicsko said:
Hi,
I've just joined to find a solution for my update problem for my unlocked Att LG Velvet. I'm also interested in learning more about flashing firmwares, custom ROMs when the time comes.
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Welcome to XDA!
Have a good read and enjoy!
Hi. I'm a french CS engineer and a Debian addict.
I systematically root all my phones and have a specialization in tuning the iptables to not talk to the GAFAMs. Rooted phones so far : Huawei codenames HAM, NEML51, old samsung phones, a couple of Wiko phones.
I've been following XDA-developers for a decade and decide now to onboard :
* Short-term goal : get some help on a very edge case involving dm-verity and kali nethunter on Nexus5X (bullhead)
* Long-term goal : wait patiently for the day when a full debian phone / ubuntu touch will be available at a relatively low price, and help all along
hi. im just a nobody playing around with his phone 3
Hi everyone I am interested in:
Electronics
PC building
Almost all topics in computer science
Currently I want to make an old S5360L (Do not know if the "L" is important ) usable again by upgrading it to a more recent version of Android or another reliable custom ROM, that works well given the limited specs of this device.
Hope to learn lots from the community, I have already read several post before deciding to join.
IcariumLS said:
Hi everyone I am interested in:
Electronics
PC building
Almost all topics in computer science
Currently I want to make an old S5360L (Do not know if the "L" is important ) usable again by upgrading it to a more recent version of Android or another reliable custom ROM, that works well given the limited specs of this device.
Hope to learn lots from the community, I have already read several post before deciding to join.
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Welcome aboard!
You might wanna check our new Computing section.
Thanks orb_selektor, checking the computing section was actually the very first thing I did after joining
Hello there! Time for my introduction to these forums!
I've viewed these forums quite well over the years, so I'm not completely new to here. I've even used tools from these forums (although I couldn't say thanks but that should change . So yes, I'm kind of familiar.
I decided to join XDA because of my phone, an LG Tribute Dynasty (LG SP200). It might not be the best phone to have anymore (and it might've never been top notch), but I have figured out quite a couple of things, and I'm willing to find out what more could be done (e.g. custom roms, which I know none are available for this phone, but maybe research could be done .
Overall, I'll see what the future has in store for me. Whatever that might mean, we'll see how all goes!
gperson said:
Hello there! Time for my introduction to these forums!
I've viewed these forums quite well over the years, so I'm not completely new to here. I've even used tools from these forums (although I couldn't say thanks but that should change . So yes, I'm kind of familiar.
I decided to join XDA because of my phone, an LG Tribute Dynasty (LG SP200). It might not be the best phone to have anymore (and it might've never been top notch), but I have figured out quite a couple of things, and I'm willing to find out what more could be done (e.g. custom roms, which I know none are available for this phone, but maybe research could be done .
Overall, I'll see what the future has in store for me. Whatever that might mean, we'll see how all goes!
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Nice intro, welcome to the forums!