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This is my first experience with a Windows Mobile device.
I just installed L26 WM 6.1 Professional WWE V6a ROM (CE OS 5.2.19170 (Build 19170.1.0.0)), which comes with R 1.58.26.20 radio.
What I notice is that the WiFi reception of my Kaiser is too weak. In spots where laptops show weak signal, but still connect reliably, this thing cannot connect al all. At home, where it detects a strong signal, it drops the connection avery hour, or so and the only way to reconnect is to turn off - turn on the WiFi.
If this normal for these devices, or I am having some kind of problem. If you think I have a problem - any suggestions how to fix it?
Yeah it's common. The Tilt doesn't have a dedicated antenna like your laptop does. Most of them have an antenna routed around your LCD screen.
Can something be done to improve the WiFi reception? Some registry thack?
Go to WiFi power mode and select "Best performance" did the trick for me though the already power hungry tilt will get oven more hungry :-(
There is a setting that can adjust the amount of battery life consumed by the WiFi. I'm not sure if its related to the bandwith it uses or the extent to which it tries to find a signal. I tried it out in the hospital and the connection strength didn't change from the lowest->highest setting.
I'm sure there is something to be done on the software side though.
I set the WiFi power mode to "Best Performance". I don't notice improvement in the strenght of signal. But now the battery dosn't last even 8 hours in sleep mode. I leave my Tilt fully charged in the evening and in the morning it is dead.
juliank said:
I set the WiFi power mode to "Best Performance". I don't notice improvement in the strenght of signal. But now the battery dosn't last even 8 hours in sleep mode. I leave my Tilt fully charged in the evening and in the morning it is dead.
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Disable the wifi when not in use.
May I ask what you WiFi while you sleep - LOL
Switch services OFF when not needed (as the poster before said).
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If you want superb battery live for example use 3G only "when needed" (internet, wireless modem). Install Chi-Tai's battery status tool and enable the the feature to see how much power is drawn from the battery. You will be amazed how much you can conserve by setting things up right even by changing the order of program load at startup... My idle comes down to 53-72 mA and I have not drainage problem anymore (at least for now :-()
WIFI very poor
I gave off my HTC P3600(Trinity) and purchased a TyTN II(Kaisar) in the hope of getting better options, particularly on WIFI. I was disappointed and I think Trinity is even better in handling WIFI. TyTN II could hardly detect a WIFI signal and when it does it always drop off. Has anyone had a similar problem and got a solution? Please share and help!!!!!
WiFi on Kaiser AT&T Tilt is weak
My Kaiser / AT&T Tilt has poor WiFi reception, even when on Best Performance.
My former Hermes 8525 was somewhat better. I am on this forum looking for a cure, like you.
Wow, Shocking! A Device with out a dedicated antenna doesn't get as good of reception as a Laptop.
One of the big complaints from all published reviews is the lack of battery power - about 4 hours maximum. I have an idea I to present.
I have the T-Mobile version, but I use my S7 at home; in fact I never activated the device on T-Mobile. I think that part of the problem with battery drain is that one cannot turn off the 3G modem. The S7 automatically disables the connection to 3G when the WiFi connects, but the modem is still working (there is still a signal strength on the task bar).
From past experience with phones, that 3G modem drains a lot of power.
Does anyone know of a way to disable the modem itself? I'm not interested in rooting at this point, but maybe there is some setting I am missing?
If you load DJ_Steve's S7 ROM, there is a hack to disable the RIL. That gave me much better battery life.
I just leave mine in airplane mode with no SIM inserted, enable and disable wifi as needed.
First off, what's RIL?
Second, I've also heard that the cellular is trying to connect on the software side. Any truth to this?
I'm wondering how this tab might fare, battery-wise, with it not pinging for a cell signal and 3G (or 4G, depending on the signal you get, or both and only 1x active) off. Can you set it so only one radio is getting play? Also, can you set profiles so that one gets used over the other? Example:
Screen off = 2G only
Screen on = 3G only
Internet apps (such as browser and YouTube) = 4G only
Z4nd4r said:
First off, what's RIL?
Second, I've also heard that the cellular is trying to connect on the software side. Any truth to this?
I'm wondering how this tab might fare, battery-wise, with it not pinging for a cell signal and 3G (or 4G, depending on the signal you get, or both and only 1x active) off. Can you set it so only one radio is getting play? Also, can you set profiles so that one gets used over the other? Example:
Screen off = 2G only
Screen on = 3G only
Internet apps (such as browser and YouTube) = 4G only
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One of the posts above indicates that he is using a hacked software version, and the battery life is indeed much better without 3G.
Using airplane mode would work if I was only using the device to read books, for example, but I generally use it for online work.
I think the replies confirm my suspicion that the 3G modem is drinking the juice. Not too much of a hassle since I keep it at home next to the charge cable, but (especially with that non standard charge cable) it will not be so good outside the house (unless one is using the T-Mobile 3G, but that takes $$).
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I just leave mine in airplane mode with no SIM inserted, enable and disable wifi as needed.
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I use mine similar to this but I have a sim card in as well. I have a widget for airplane mode and one for wifi on my main home screen. I have airplane mode and wifi enabled most of the time but when I am out and need data (not very often) I just disable airplane mode for a short time.
This works well and the battery life is more like a minor inconvenience.
To do this same thing manually I'm sure juice defender ultimate should work since you could set up profiles for wifi, 2g and 3g (disclaimer: I haven't tested that idea but some people on this forum have juice defender ultimate and might be able to comment)
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I use mine similar to this but I have a sim card in as well. I have a widget for airplane mode and one for wifi on my main home screen. I have airplane mode and wifi enabled most of the time but when I am out and need data (not very often) I just disable airplane mode for a short time.
This works well and the battery life is more like a minor inconvenience.
To do this same thing manually I'm sure juice defender ultimate should work since you could set up profiles for wifi, 2g and 3g (disclaimer: I haven't tested that idea but some people on this forum have juice defender ultimate and might be able to comment)
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The problem is that when the WiFi is on, so is the 3g. I confirmed this with my battery widget; 57% of the battery drain was due to the 3g modem IIRC.
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The problem is that when the WiFi is on, so is the 3g. I confirmed this with my battery widget; 57% of the battery drain was due to the 3g modem IIRC.
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If you activate wifi by turning airplane mode off then the 3g radio will stay on in the background while you are using wifi.
If you turn on airplane mode then wifi you will only have wifi active. Just make sure that the airplane mode symbol is on in the top right beside the wifi icon.
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If you activate wifi by turning airplane mode off then the 3g radio will stay on in the background while you are using wifi.
If you turn on airplane mode then wifi you will only have wifi active. Just make sure that the airplane mode symbol is on in the top right beside the wifi icon.
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Thanks, I will try it tonight! That should improve my battery life a lot. I'll report back.
Wow,
That worked great. I didn't realize that flight mode did not override all radios. Thanks for the tip!
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I just leave mine in airplane mode with no SIM inserted, enable and disable wifi as needed.
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This has also worked for me with the SIM inserted. I get great sleep times with new OTA upgrade left at default settings and keeping the S7 in airplane mode, unless charging. I only turn on wifi when I need it.
Also very important: if you're using the S7 only with wifi, turn background sync off from the power widget, when you are setting the tablet aside for some time. I believe this is where the battery drain actually occurs. If background sync is left on, the S7 continues to try to update location services and your various accounts, even though airplane mode is on.
I have "slept" the S7 (airplane mode with wifi off and background sync off) when I get to work at about 90% charge and come back to it at the end of the day at 75%, ready for the commute home.
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I'm coming from a Note 2 and I'm somewhat confused as to how this phone handles everything network related. On the note 2 whenever I would connect to wifi, my LTE symbol would disappear and show only a wifi signal, and I THINK the mobile data was switched off until the wifi connection dropped (I'm probably wrong). I also wasn't as concerned about battery drain with that phone since I had a 7600 mAh battery.
On this phone, regardless of if I'm connected to wifi or not, the cell data (empty "bars") logo always shows at the top. Now normally this wouldn't really bother me, except "cellular data" is using nearly 5x the battery that wifi is using. Are phone calls/SMS also tied to the same data stream/radio as the LTE? I'm on wifi for around 80% of the day. I didn't know if disabling cellular data would stop me from getting phone calls/sms. Again, I'm not sure with the note 2 if that was just a touchwiz feature or not, but I was wondering if there was some way to automatically disable LTE radio (if it isn't tied into calls) when I connect to wifi. Cell standby is my number one battery drain after the screen.
Cellular data is off when on WiFi. The only time you'd see it on is when a MMS is coming through.
Cell standby is just your radio connected to the tower.
When I am using a mobile network (both 3G and 4G) and the signal is low, sometimes I lost connection (That's normal), but the stange thing is that phone don't reconnect soon and it remains offline. I have to manually reboot or enable/disable airplane mode... and the signal come back.
I'm using Mi 9 for about 5 months. I am on the last firmware and even on old versions same thing...
Anyone has got similar problems?
Hi i have also some problem with my connections, I am from Germany I got my Mi 9 since a week (Rom was Global Europe 10.2.30 EEU) now I have the Global Rom (10.2.13) but this is also no solution.
Sometimes it shows me a Network but I tried to call my girlfriend and it has no dailtone, also it shows me network but I can't receive calls, same problem I have with mobile data, it shows connection but then it isn't connect to the internet.
if I switch off the mobile data connection and switch it on then I have normal connection.
I hope there will be a fix in the next update....I heard that some people have that problem.
Mine loses signal sometimes on the subway but reconnects by itself in 30-60 secs, i find that a bit slow but overall I think it holds onto the signal better than the phones i had in the past. This is the type of issue that would be solved in 1 month at most but here we are, an update almost every 2 months that "optimizes" one thing and weighs in at 500+ MB.
Mine have the same problem. When I'm on the subway it lost the signal and when I go out to the street again I have to enable/disable airplane mode to get signal again, because it can't connect automatically like a normal phone.. I'm from Mexico and I have Global ROM 10.2.13.0
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I have a similar problem. Where I work the phone goes from 4g to 3g, to avoid this I open the phone settings 1 (by entering * # * # 4636 # * # * on the call keypad) and switch from lte / td-scdma / umts which is default option to only lte.
The problem remains the same when the phone loses the line and then finds signal again, because although there is signal after I do not receive photos or audio from wa or cannot I access the services of play store for example and I have to switch to default option again...
I'd like to know if there was a method to increase the power of the antenna module even just a little with root permissions ...
I have a similar issue, especially when I am driving car - I am from Germany.
When I start driving with Google Maps open (to have an overview of the traffic), after about 30 minutes my Mi 9 loses connection and won't reconnect, even if I switch on/off airplane-mode etc. This does not happen every time, but relatively often. To get back network connection I have to restart the phone.
About 2 days ago when I was home I lost connection again. Google Maps was still running. After closing the app my Mi 9 immediatly connected to network. That may have been coincidence, but next time I will close Google Maps if my phone loses connection again in the car and will report here.
I am on Xiaomi.EU 9.9.26 Android Q (I just installed *.27 v2), had the same issue on different Xiaomi.EU Android P releases.
Krazhil said:
I have a similar issue, especially when I am driving car - I am from Germany.
When I start driving with Google Maps open (to have an overview of the traffic), after about 30 minutes my Mi 9 loses connection and won't reconnect, even if I switch on/off airplane-mode etc. This does not happen every time, but relatively often.
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It happened to me several times and I can't understand why ...
In this case the connection seemed to be good too, I had all the signal notches in Lte, but in reality it was absent.
I had to restart.
Known problem it seems...?
Hopefully Xiaomi will fix it soon.. wonder if custom ROMS have the same problem
Krazhil said:
I have a similar issue, especially when I am driving car - I am from Germany.
When I start driving with Google Maps open (to have an overview of the traffic), after about 30 minutes my Mi 9 loses connection and won't reconnect, even if I switch on/off airplane-mode etc. This does not happen every time, but relatively often. To get back network connection I have to restart the phone.
About 2 days ago when I was home I lost connection again. Google Maps was still running. After closing the app my Mi 9 immediatly connected to network. That may have been coincidence, but next time I will close Google Maps if my phone loses connection again in the car and will report here.
I am on Xiaomi.EU 9.9.26 Android Q (I just installed *.27 v2), had the same issue on different Xiaomi.EU Android P releases.
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So, as I said I report back.
Today again after about 30 minutes my Mi 9 lost connection (0 bars). Again at about the same region. Probably the connection is bad there. However, my Mi 9 didn't reconnect even after few minutes (sometimes I waited 5+ minutes and IT didn't help).
I closed Google Maps and another App, which requires GPS. Nothing happened. Then I deactivated GPS from the quick menu and my Mi 9 connected immediately to the network with full bars.
I have "o2" as network provider.
Xiaomi.EU 9.9.27 v2 ROM.
enige1993 said:
I have a similar problem. Where I work the phone goes from 4g to 3g, to avoid this I open the phone settings 1 (by entering * # * # 4636 # * # * on the call keypad) and switch from lte / td-scdma / umts which is default option to only lte.
The problem remains the same when the phone loses the line and then finds signal again, because although there is signal after I do not receive photos or audio from wa or cannot I access the services of play store for example and I have to switch to default option again...
I'd like to know if there was a method to increase the power of the antenna module even just a little with root permissions ...
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I changed to LTE only, and use it for some hours...
It didn't help. Same as before.
Thanks anyway
4Freedom said:
I changed to LTE only, and use it for some hours...
It didn't help. Same as before.
Thanks anyway
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Yeah, I know, For me is the same.
When I lose connection I've to change to LTE, When it happen again, I've to do it again so I come back to default option.
I do this to avoid restarting the phone and to be faster, but the issue remain anyway...
But remember, When u're in "only LTE" option, you will not able to call
Workaround is change to 3G connection preference
Hi everyone!
I have the same issue and after lot of things that I have done, as change MIUI to Global version, now I can use 3G without problem, but if I try to use LTE/4G after some minutes using GPS in high accuracy, LET connection turns OFF.
So, my workaround is change to 3G connection preference when I need to use Waze, Maps or any other app high accuracy.
I have the same problem too, and I always have to reboot the phone to get the data/wifi to work again. But just a minute ago I had the same problem and I just killed all tasks in recents and the network came back without having to reboot. May be coincidence or I'm on to something.
From experience this problem should have disappeared for quite some time now.
I have always been using EEA ROMs. I believe I have not seen this problem at all in MIUI 12. It has been such a long time since I last saw the problem I don't really remember if this was fixed during the MIUI 11 era.
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I have the same problem too, and I always have to reboot the phone to get the data/wifi to work again. But just a minute ago I had the same problem and I just killed all tasks in recents and the network came back without having to reboot. May be coincidence or I'm on to something.
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flickyamom said:
I have the same problem too, and I always have to reboot the phone to get the data/wifi to work again. But just a minute ago I had the same problem and I just killed all tasks in recents and the network came back without having to reboot. May be coincidence or I'm on to something.
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Which ROM/Firmware are you using?
Try disable and enable airplane mode instead of rebooting
seemebreakthis said:
From experience this problem should have disappeared for quite some time now.
I have always been using EEA ROMs. I believe I have not seen this problem at all in MIUI 12. It has been such a long time since I last saw the problem I don't really remember if this was fixed during the MIUI 11 era.
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Exactly.
Does anyone else experience their pixel 5 deciding that a perfectly good wifi connection is "low quality" and using cellular instead?
I have this happen very often. Have at least 50% of the wifi symbol full on my fast home network (that nothing else struggles on) and my pixel 5 just labels it as "low quality" and switches to cellular. I normally just have to go to airplane mode and turn wifi on. Toggling wifi (without airplane mode) will get it to reconnect but it'll quickly do it again on occasion.
I remember in the past there was a setting for aggressive WiFi to cellular handover but that's gone now. Not sure if that would solve this anyway.
What are your actual wifi stats? Just because the icon shows 50% doesn't mean you actually have a good signal.
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Does anyone else experience their pixel 5 deciding that a perfectly good wifi connection is "low quality" and using cellular instead?
I have this happen very often. Have at least 50% of the wifi symbol full on my fast home network (that nothing else struggles on) and my pixel 5 just labels it as "low quality" and switches to cellular. I normally just have to go to airplane mode and turn wifi on. Toggling wifi (without airplane mode) will get it to reconnect but it'll quickly do it again on occasion.
I remember in the past there was a setting for aggressive WiFi to cellular handover but that's gone now. Not sure if that would solve this anyway.
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count your blessings. in my experiences, android tends to hang onto bad wifi connections for faaaarrrrrrr too long. i'll be a half mile from the house before it finally switches over.
WaxysDargle said:
count your blessings. in my experiences, android tends to hang onto bad wifi connections for faaaarrrrrrr too long. i'll be a half mile from the house before it finally switches over.
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I wish that was the case for me. Mine will pick a single bar of LTE over my near full wifi signal. I've never had another phone do something like that. I basically have to use my phone with airplane mode on at home.
Unlock the developer settings and turn on verbose wifi. It should give you better wifi signal and band information to work with.