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There has been some discussion and rumor about a ghost thread and someone keeping a rom from the public, I've looked into the situation and by this message would like to respond publicly about it. I hope this will clear up any rumors going around and will return this forum to what it should be, a place to discuss and develop.
The "ghost thread":
The thread with subject "How to cook in a OEM Application (package) with uninstall functions?" has been closed by the moderator Duttythroy by request of the original poster. This can be seen in google cache as well as on this screenshot from our pda archive. It has been permanently removed from the forum and can not be restored. This happens often when a thread is closed and doesn't seem to be of much importance to prevent clutter in the forum. To prevent discussions like these in the future I've removed the ability to permanently remove threads from now on.
I have no reason to believe this thread was removed on purpose with malicious intent.
Accusations of keeping a rom from the public:
There have been accusations that a certain member is keeping a source rom from the public by paying people not to distribute it. The person who allegedly got paid to not share this rom does not wish to tell me who did this nor wishes to provide proof for this. As the system shows this user has removed all messages in his PM box there is no way for me to gain access to this information if it ever was in his PM box to begin with. I thus have no reason to believe that a rom is being kept from the public with malicious intent.
About the sharing principle in general:
A lot of rom chefs have complained that keeping a rom from other chefs no matter what the reason is a breach of the sharing principle of this forum and should be punished.
Though we believe that by sharing the community will benefit most it is not a rule, I can not nor do I wish to force people to share. Sometimes there are simply more important issues with a rom that might cause someone not to want to share, think of sources that need protecting or legal issues. I don't think our sharing principle should be enforced with the risk of sources losing their jobs or people getting sued because they shared, this most certainly won't be good for the future of xda-developers.
Best regards,
Flar
p.s. I will leave this thread open for discussion for a while, but do request that you do not post personal attacks here and try to keep the discussion civil.
Flar said:
There has been some discussion and rumor about a ghost thread and someone keeping a rom from the public, I've looked into the situation and by this message would like to respond publicly about it. I hope this will clear up any rumors going around and will return this forum to what it should be, a place to discuss and develop.
The "ghost thread":
The thread with subject "How to cook in a OEM Application (package) with uninstall functions?" has been closed by the moderator Duttythroy by request of the original poster. This can be seen in google cache as well as on this screenshot from our pda archive. It has been permanently removed from the forum and can not be restored. This happens often when a thread is closed and doesn't seem to be of much importance to prevent clutter in the forum. To prevent discussions like these in the future I've removed the ability to permanently remove threads from now on.
I have no reason to believe this thread was removed on purpose with malicious intent.
Accusations of keeping a rom from the public:
There have been accusations that a certain member is keeping a source rom from the public by paying people not to distribute it. The person who allegedly got paid to not share this rom does not wish to tell me who did this nor wishes to provide proof for this. As the system shows this user has removed all messages in his PM box there is no way for me to gain access to this information if it ever was in his PM box to begin with. I thus have no reason to believe that a rom is being kept from the public with malicious intent.
About the sharing principle in general:
A lot of rom chefs have complained that keeping a rom from other chefs no matter what the reason is a breach of the sharing principle of this forum and should be punished.
Though we believe that by sharing the community will benefit most it is not a rule, I can not nor do I wish to force people to share. Sometimes there are simply more important issues with a rom that might cause someone not to want to share, think of sources that need protecting or legal issues. I don't think our sharing principle should be enforced with the risk of sources losing their jobs or people getting sued because they shared, this most certainly won't be good for the future of xda-developers.
Best regards,
Flar
p.s. I will leave this thread open for discussion for a while, but do request that you do not post personal attacks here and try to keep the discussion civil.
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I respect your choice. Good work to all the chefs, mods and admin.
I respect your choice!
Good work to everybody!
You do what you have to do.
Respect!
Thanks Flar for clearing things up.
I can only hope this has now been resolved and harmony returns to xda developers.
I think Flar is right, but for another reason that she didn't mention, I believe that sharing is good for the community, but sharing means to be willing to share. If you force someone to share something, it's more like stealing.
Can we all be friends again now?
Group hug??
The real question now is this:
Is everything going to return to normal in the forum now?
Or did we lost some chefs/mods?
I guess time will tell...
Since there isn't much that can be done and the Admin did whatever he could and posted the investigation results publicly, we should respect his decision and accept the facts on the face value and not on assumptions. I hope things will getback to normal and the chefs would reopen their ROMs for the public, who love and adore their work.
XDA is a wonderful place for HTC device owners due to the extremely talanted developers and chefs, who are anytime better than the ones wotking at Microsoft and HTC.
So I humbly request all the chefs to re-open their ROMs to the loving and dedicated fans and get back the XDA spirit.
Thank you.
Hello
Thanks for the clear answer and hope that's poeple are going down a bit..
Still unclear if the cookers can share the new rom or not... as the Admin didn't find any proof
Anyway hope that it was just a little storm
Long life to XDA
gigaboss said:
I think Flar is right, but for another reason that she didn't mention, I believe that sharing is good for the community, but sharing means to be willing to share. If you force someone to share something, it's more like stealing.
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Exactly.
Personally If I give my word to someone promising not to do something, I will do that, and I expect that also others respect this, and behave coherently with my position.
Clearly as steted in the first post above, when such an extent is reached (like people getting sued or fired) this becomes exponentially more important.
I would like to say that I just joined this community before the thing blew, and as far as I am concerned it seems that things are cooling down, so thanks to the Admins and Moderators for your efforts. (We are civil people, or at least we should behave like it)
Also a thank to all the Chef's, because you can do what I cannot, I appreciate your work, please do not get discouraged and keep it up with the excellent service you provide to the masses here on XDA.
Ciao from Italy.
I am glad there has been progress on the matter.
What happened was sooooooooooo unnecessary and i still believe could have been dealt with better.
I have posted a PM to Flar about how i feel.
XDA is more important than individuals, this must not happen again.
Phew, feel better now
Good speech, but I think everything is the same!
The world is made of corruption, and where it is you can not do anything!
Chef small is nothing, but Big Chef power can not be discussed.
Solution: Leave XDA or lives to it so.
I continue make my roms with love.. Not with money!!!
MaryOne is here to make people happy!!!
Life is beautiful!
Can we have an official answer from dutty about accusations?
lucarp78 said:
Can we have an official answer from dutty about accusations?
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It's up to dutty to decide if he wants to discuss this but i think he should do that when he's ready. I've spoken to him yesterday and he's currently very busy with his personal life so it might take some time.
Best regards,
Flar
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Can we have an official answer from dutty about accusations?
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I think he already made his official answer towards rhis matter.
Hopefully we can all resume normal communication now. The rules have been changed so that it won't be possible for mods to permanently erase threads which offers some official traceability if issues arise.
jouh said:
I think he already made his official answer towards rhis matter.
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In all closed threads Dutty have many "lawyers", I think not need. He will surely respond.
jouh said:
I think he already made his official answer towards rhis matter.
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Let him answer and not his lawyers.
At least... with your hand to put in... and with your comment and your decision, this makes sense and let all of users to understand this matter.
Now.. i'm really happy and wish all of your cookers to return to our famous website.
Thanks,
KCJ
I sent an e-mail to team dealing XDA Portal for pointing why our beloved members of the Team Canjica its not already RD.
Waiting for an answer and I'll post it soon will.
This is what i write to :
Subject:
Team Canjica - a team of members (not devs) who develop for Galaxy S Advance I9070
Body:
Why there is no article about Canjica Team, the team that develops from long time ROMs for our phones Galaxy S Advance GT I9070 , or other phones who have novathor chipset like Codina, Janice, Hudson and others?
I think it is a great injustice that team members to disclose sources on github (https://github.com/TeamCanjica) and other users, like Maclaw (actually New Maclaw), who is banned one time, receive laurels, especially considering the fact that not disclose the sources and the remaining activity as it should be in Open Source projects.
Please take this into consideration so that team members are on the threshold of giving up, because of injustice, software development and the fact that you not even consider to be promoted to the stage RD (Recognized Developer).
Regards,
Razvan
Proud Senior Member of XDA community
PS: Waiting for a reply to this post whatever will be.
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Let's send PM's to moderators and / or administrators to see/receive an official response from them.
I was thinking of doing the same actually. I'll send each of the forum moderators a mail.
Even if they shoot our requests down, at least they'll know what is going on.
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I was thinking of doing the same actually. I'll send each of the forum moderators a mail.
Even if they shoot our requests down, at least they'll know what is going on.
I was wondering... This refusal of rd status sounds pretty ridiculous to me. After all the whole team canjica has done a great deal for our device, right? So what could be the reason to deny them the rd status? Maybe they're short on resources and can't afford to give all these privileges to all the members of the team? Maybe that's why they put so much stress on individual work?
Such a blunt "no" has to hide something behind. If we could understand what that is maybe we could find at the very least a compromise of sort. Like a rd account shared by the whole team, maybe?
Just asking.
Sent. That's it.
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I was thinking of doing the same actually. I'll send each of the forum moderators a mail.
Even if they shoot our requests down, at least they'll know what is going on.
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I was thinking of doing the same actually. I'll send each of the forum moderators a mail.
Even if they shoot our requests down, at least they'll know what is going on.
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Send it to one, not all mods, otherwise it may seem like you're spamming.. And RAZVAN great mail but I suggest you remove the "not devs" part from the thread name because they are as "dev" as any other RD in this forum. We want XDA to know they ARE devs who are not getting the credit and facilities they deserve to contribute better
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ManiacShri said:
... And RAZVAN great mail but I suggest you remove the "not devs" part from the thread name because they are as "dev" as any other RD in this forum...
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Of course they are devs, OUR DEVS, but they are not recognized by the XDA like developers.
R_a_z_v_a_n said:
I sent an e-mail to team dealing XDA Portal for pointing why our beloved members of the Team Canjica its not already RD.
Waiting for an answer and I'll post it soon will.
This is what i write to :
Let's send PM's to moderators and / or administrators to see/receive an official response from them.
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Hi,
Users must apply to become a Recognized Developer through filling in the RD Application Form available here >>> http://www.xda-developers.com/recognized-developer-program/. These applications are then processed by the Developer Committee who use this portal post of minimum requirements for being an RD as the assessment criteria.
arkadeep94 said:
I was thinking of doing the same actually. I'll send each of the forum moderators a mail.
Even if they shoot our requests down, at least they'll know what is going on.
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I was thinking of doing the same actually. I'll send each of the forum moderators a mail.
Even if they shoot our requests down, at least they'll know what is going on.
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No you won't. If I or any of the other forum moderators get our inboxes spammed the user responsible for this will be dealt with accordingly. If you must e-mail someone, only email 1 of us, not all of us. Though to be honest my above post says all you need to know.
ygtenos said:
I was wondering... This refusal of rd status sounds pretty ridiculous to me. After all the whole team canjica has done a great deal for our device, right? So what could be the reason to deny them the rd status? Maybe they're short on resources and can't afford to give all these privileges to all the members of the team? Maybe that's why they put so much stress on individual work?
Such a blunt "no" has to hide something behind. If we could understand what that is maybe we could find at the very least a compromise of sort. Like a rd account shared by the whole team, maybe?
Just asking.
Sent. That's it.
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Hi,
The minimum requirements for being a Recognized Developer can be found here >>> http://www.xda-developers.com/recognized-developer-program/rd-minimum-requirements/. If a user does not meet the high standards we have come to expect from RD's then the Developer Committee will not grant them the RD status.
And whilst you can have a team account, team account's will not be granted RD status as the RD program is to recognize individuals for their work.
Even Mr.Harsh Should be given some credit...He is the one who brought Dual boot to sgsa..
When Dual boot was brought in galaxy s , it was displayed in the portal
I think that is enough to know. For the momment.
I reported this thread, and Jonny responded immediately to my request and made known the way to go to become a recognized developer.
Thanks Jonny!
R_a_z_v_a_n said:
I sent an e-mail to team dealing XDA Portal for pointing why our beloved members of the Team Canjica its not already RD.
Waiting for an answer and I'll post it soon will.
This is what i write to :
Let's send PM's to moderators and / or administrators to see/receive an official response from them.
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Why send a complaint about a person for RD status to the portal team??? They have absolute zip to do with the applications for RD. You are wasting your time.
Any no, it is not for users to go about PM'ing or e-mailing anyone and everyone trying to get a user RD status, that is for ONLY the user involved and the Developer Committee. Please stop this frankly ridiculous behavior and let the user involved contact the DC account.
Jonny said:
Why send a complaint about a person for RD status to the portal team??? They have absolute zip to do with the applications for RD. You are wasting your time.
Any no, it is not for users to go about PM'ing or e-mailing anyone and everyone trying to get a user RD status, that is for ONLY the user involved and the Developer Committee. Please stop this frankly ridiculous behavior and let the user involved contact the DC account.
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Oh please ,
There is more in it then RD title , DC committee or anyone of the admin who is happy to solve the issues we have . Name them instead of replying like a automated messages.
Don't jump into conclusions so fast ,try to know more about it .
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Also 1 last point before this thread gets put to sleep.
With reference to the Maclaw part of the PM, I've noticed a lot of invalid reports going through the RP system about Maclaw over the last few days so let me clear up a few of the points that seem to be getting mis-interpreted.
1. They do not have to provide the ROM source. CyanogenMod and other AOSP ROM's are Open-Sourced under the Apache 2.0 License which states source code does not have to be published. It is the developers choice whether or not to publish ROM source.
2. The only thing that for which the source code needs to be published for is the Linux kernel as this is under the GNU General Public License (GPL) v2.
3. I'm well aware of the entire history behind Maclaw - I was the moderator who dealt with it last time around so please, no more RP's detailing the history of Maclaw
Thread closed.
percy_g2 said:
Oh please ,
There is more in it then RD title , DC committee or anyone of the admin who is happy to solve the issues we have . Name them instead of replying like a automated messages.
Don't jump into conclusions so fast ,try to know more about it .
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
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True, however, it is the Developer Committee alone that deals with RD applications, rejections and complaints regarding this. No other usergroup interferes as a matter of principle - not even the admins. The DC are fully capable of handling these sorts of things as there are developers from all major platforms that form the DC.
Ok, I'm closing this thread. If you have anymore concerns about this then feel free to drop me a PM.
First off, not sure if this is the right forum to post this in but I figured since developers are promoting their apps here the audience should be right. If not (or this violates XDA terms) just let me know.
The company I work for is looking for Android and iOS developers to help create B-to-B apps in the supply chain space. If you are interested or know of a developer you would recommend please PM me and I can provide additional details. I have seen some amazing developers throughout the years on XDA and hope some of you are up for a challenge!
Thanks.
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Can you share only the front flash fix please and also the link that you share is not working thanks in advance
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Download link not working enlace de descarga no funciona revisa por favor.
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this fix was not you that did, and you were not allowed to use it. the real developer name is @Bode327
@MikeChannon
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Add IT in xlm file of camera.
system/cameradate/camera-feacture-v8.xml
Or use IT magisk module
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YYGa2S2UlcQekO6JZSLq9XScBH4W1KDQ/view?usp=drivesdk
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Man, you did not solve any problem, you are using third party material to gain advantage, In your YouTube video where you explain downgrade from oreo to nougat. the script and the rom that you are using are mine, because the error 11 I left on purpose. Be a man and take or give credit to devs.
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this fix was not you that did, and you were not allowed to use it. the real developer name is @Bode327
@MikeChannon
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It's true who did was Bode327.
First of all, the MAGISK module that you have published as your own was created by me, according to the rules, to be able to promote and use, you should have given credits and thanks to me!
Whois the Developer for Rom Optimized Oreo V6 for J7p?
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May I remind everyone of the XDA RULES
12. Sharing
XDA-Developers is based on the principle of sharing to transmit knowledge. This is the cornerstone of our site. Our members and developers freely share their experience, knowledge, and finished works with the rest of the community to promote growth within the developer community, and to encourage those still learning to become better. There are those, however, who take advantage of this model and try to make personal gains from the hard work of others.
In order to preserve the delicate balance between sharing for the good of the community and blatant self-promotion, regular members and developers alike must understand (and agree) to the following:
12.1. Give credits where due - Credits and acknowledgements for using and releasing work which is based on someone else's work are an absolute must. Works reported to have no credits will be taken down until proper acknowledgements are added by the member in question;
12.2. Courtesy - While most of the work released on our site falls under the umbrella of open source, that is not the only license model being used by developers on xda-developers. In order to prevent problems, we ask that if you decide to base your work on someone else's that you check the license model being used (as it might not be as permissive as one may think);
12.3. Re-releasing other's works as your own is forbidden. The code that you release into the wild must have something beyond minor aesthetic changes that makes it better than the last. As this can be subjective, kang reports will be reviewed on a case by case basis. If you feel that your code has been kanged, please contact the Dev Relations team (listed below) if you cannot solve the issue amicably via PM. Please understand that you will be asked to provide evidence to substantiate your claim;
12.4. Developers can issue take down requests (by contacting the Dev Relations team) under the following circumstances:
- in-process builds start showing up on forums when the developer is not yet ready to release the work;
- cases in which another developer is too aggressively soliciting donations or misrepresenting the work (kanging);
- unofficial builds where an official build is already available;
In summary, we want people to have access to work and knowledge alike. Sharing is good and courtesy and ethics go a long way.
Developers with questions, comments, complaints, or concerns about our rules (or anything!) should send a PM to our Dev Relations team (efrant or sykopompos) or to a Moderator. We are here to help!
Please read these carefully.
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NiCaARRecho said:
Whois the Developer for Rom Optimized Oreo V6 for J7p?
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Yes
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I work as a publisher to post exclusive things for freeIf I have an apple and you have an apple, we both have one apple, and if I give you my apple and you give me yours, we each have an apple and nothing changes But if I had an idea and you had an idea and I gave you my idea and I took your idea from you, then each of us has two ideas. This is the rule by which I live.
Greetings and welcome to XDA. Please take a moment to review the Forum Rules. XDA thrives on the sharing of ideas; however, we must be respectful of each others' work. Therefore, I would like to point out some specific items:
12.1. Give credits where due - Credits and acknowledgements for using and releasing work which is based on someone else's work are an absolute must. Works reported to have no credits will be taken down until proper acknowledgements are added by the member in question;
12.2. Courtesy - While most of the work released on our site falls under the umbrella of open source, that is not the only license model being used by developers on xda-developers. In order to prevent problems, we ask that if you decide to base your work on someone else's that you check the license model being used (as it might not be as permissive as one may think);
12.3. Re-releasing other's works as your own is forbidden. The code that you release into the wild must have something beyond minor aesthetic changes that makes it better than the last. As this can be subjective, kang reports will be reviewed on a case by case basis. If you feel that your code has been kanged, please contact the Dev Relations team (listed below) if you cannot solve the issue amicably via PM. Please understand that you will be asked to provide evidence to substantiate your claim;
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As a rule of thumb, it's always good form to ask permission before you use someone else's idea or work. If you take my idea without asking, I'm not going to be particularly happy about it, even if you gave me one of yours.
Additionally, please review the XDA GPL Policy. Compliance with all forum rules and policies is mandatory and non-negotiable.