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-- WHAT DOESN'T WORK? --
Smoothness, thats it
if there are more bugs please report themOfficial LineageOS Site: lineageos.orgH O W T O C L E A N I N S T A L L
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2. Wipe Cache & Dalvik data
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All i know is that this phone is not very stable , in android 12 onwards.
So i wouldn't use it, even MIUI is stuck in Android 11 for this device. They have it in A11 for a good reason.
jdd1996 said:
All i know is that this phone is not very stable , in android 12 onwards.
So i wouldn't use it, even MIUI is stuck in Android 11 for this device. They have it in A11 for a good reason.
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I just found out yesterday that Xiaomi isn't updating it to Android 12, which brought me here, to look up for new ROMs. You said "they have it in A11 for a good reason", referring to it not being very stable. I'm curious. Why do you say so?
glofern97 said:
I just found out yesterday that Xiaomi isn't updating it to Android 12, which brought me here, to look up for new ROMs. You said "they have it in A11 for a good reason", referring to it not being very stable. I'm curious. Why do you say so?
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Bare with me for 5-12 mins. You or may not agree with me, but it works like this in many ocassions.
Let's say i have a AMD A-5200 CPU , which is a cpu from 2013.
OR - Let's say i have a Intel Pentium 4 P4 - 2.0Ghz from the year 2008
OK? ok the example starts with 2 weak cpu's from ANCIENT TIMES now...
What OS can/would you install in those CPU's?
A Pentium 4 2.0 has 400 MHz. EACH 100mhz translates more or less to 5-15 khz of electrical power the cpu needs to process the information, the data.
Since its so weak, in windows10 or 11 when you open microsoft word 2020 or open office, it will LAG! because the overlay/background OS' is already consuming around 200ghz, all those 400 mhz of cpu power
(Animations, and Cortana, and simply the theme of the wallpaper, and the Registry, and Services, AND even USB peripherical drivers ARE ALL CONSUMING CPU POWER AT ONCE, and at high demands because the OS' Requests it with its kernel )
Since the core memory is so weak! you will most likely be installing windows xp or windows 7 if you're lucky !
BUT if you install windows 11 or 10, you will face unconsistent algorythmical graphic/memory processes
(This is what we call lag) core processing and clock problems, " MEMORY LEAKING problems " or over saturations of the system.
A CPU CONTAINS something called MMU's Memory management unit's, well they start to become obsolete unless you reball and resolder the cpu,
SAME applies if i tried to install LATEST FEDORA OR ARCH LINUX OS's , right? WHY would there be problems?
Because kernels are being update to be version 6.2 today, and that demands a constant clock and processing.
For the AMD A6-5200, Linux and windows 7 would be good options, but for the Pentium 4 2.0ghz of 2008 only windows 7 and Linux with low kernel version of 5 or 5.2 are acceptable.
So these techs at xiomi think similarly, on top of that the Storage of the OS increases, the RAM demand, CPU demand increases with each version, so when you boot your game (mostly the demanding apps) when you boot your designer pen drawing app, IT WILL LAG , perhaps not noticeably for the user in android 12 or 13, BUT AS VERSIONS WILL CONTINUE TO PASS, in Android 13-14 , we will see how this Xiomi Redmi 9A , ITS PROCESSOR and its weak 2gb will not be enough to process/render the datas and assets of the newest OS's
hahaha all that to say, sorry i got inspired " They need to optimize the OS's in the future maybe then we may be able to install newer OS's on older phones " Its like putting android 12 on an Android 8.1 Oreo phone, you understand? First of all an error will prompt saying " Allocating space of data : Error insufficient Space " AND EVEN IF YOU HAD THE SPACE? Lets say we hack the phone and give it 64gb of memory, and give it perfect partitions. ONCE IT BOOTS It will actually have problems, lag, while using the demanding apps.
The newer OS's Versions request mooore Ram , moore CPU powa, more storage space that redmi 9a doesn't have! uhum !
why? cuz the functions actually got smarter uhum !
Dont you see how newer phones have 64 gb of space all by default, tecnology thinks to advance and milk people over and over. They could add 200 gb of space, but no... (Lets wait until its necessary so we can reap the people)
One day an OS SYSTEM will be 25-35 and even 45GB SIZE ! AND THAT DAY YOUR 64 Gb will look like its too small, so you will need to buy the 120-200gb version phone.
Our PC motherboards, cpu's, phones all get old and so obsolete with time, all we can do is recycle them, melt them and make a new modern one, resolder, reball them. That's just how the modern industry works today. You cant just hope to upgrade your old junk/Hardware with the latest Software. One day we will get Android 15, A17 too its already planned ! and this phone will not run it, forget it , hoperfully we will be using opensource Linux OS's even more optimized tweaked than what google and these companies can do in the future. NOT BASED on Android 15 or 17.
You cant just hope to put the new hotdog on the old bread. At least not with the current technology/society
Please, can anyone who's installed this ROM report on whether or not manual camera controls (technically referred to as camera2 API) are available on this ROM either while using a 3rd party camera app (like Manual Camera, Open Camera, etc) or the LOS camera.
I'm considering going from MIUI 12.5 on Redmi 9A to this ROM.
Thanks.
jdd1996 said:
Bare with me for 5-12 mins. You or may not agree with me, but it works like this in many ocassions.
Let's say i have a AMD A-5200 CPU , which is a cpu from 2013.
OR - Let's say i have a Intel Pentium 4 P4 - 2.0Ghz from the year 2008
OK? ok the example starts with 2 weak cpu's from ANCIENT TIMES now...
What OS can/would you install in those CPU's?
A Pentium 4 2.0 has 400 MHz. EACH 100mhz translates more or less to 5-15 khz of electrical power the cpu needs to process the information, the data.
Since its so weak, in windows10 or 11 when you open microsoft word 2020 or open office, it will LAG! because the overlay/background OS' is already consuming around 200ghz, all those 400 mhz of cpu power
(Animations, and Cortana, and simply the theme of the wallpaper, and the Registry, and Services, AND even USB peripherical drivers ARE ALL CONSUMING CPU POWER AT ONCE, and at high demands because the OS' Requests it with its kernel )
Since the core memory is so weak! you will most likely be installing windows xp or windows 7 if you're lucky !
BUT if you install windows 11 or 10, you will face unconsistent algorythmical graphic/memory processes
(This is what we call lag) core processing and clock problems, " MEMORY LEAKING problems " or over saturations of the system.
A CPU CONTAINS something called MMU's Memory management unit's, well they start to become obsolete unless you reball and resolder the cpu,
SAME applies if i tried to install LATEST FEDORA OR ARCH LINUX OS's , right? WHY would there be problems?
Because kernels are being update to be version 6.2 today, and that demands a constant clock and processing.
For the AMD A6-5200, Linux and windows 7 would be good options, but for the Pentium 4 2.0ghz of 2008 only windows 7 and Linux with low kernel version of 5 or 5.2 are acceptable.
So these techs at xiomi think similarly, on top of that the Storage of the OS increases, the RAM demand, CPU demand increases with each version, so when you boot your game (mostly the demanding apps) when you boot your designer pen drawing app, IT WILL LAG , perhaps not noticeably for the user in android 12 or 13, BUT AS VERSIONS WILL CONTINUE TO PASS, in Android 13-14 , we will see how this Xiomi Redmi 9A , ITS PROCESSOR and its weak 2gb will not be enough to process/render the datas and assets of the newest OS's
hahaha all that to say, sorry i got inspired " They need to optimize the OS's in the future maybe then we may be able to install newer OS's on older phones " Its like putting android 12 on an Android 8.1 Oreo phone, you understand? First of all an error will prompt saying " Allocating space of data : Error insufficient Space " AND EVEN IF YOU HAD THE SPACE? Lets say we hack the phone and give it 64gb of memory, and give it perfect partitions. ONCE IT BOOTS It will actually have problems, lag, while using the demanding apps.
The newer OS's Versions request mooore Ram , moore CPU powa, more storage space that redmi 9a doesn't have! uhum !
why? cuz the functions actually got smarter uhum !
Dont you see how newer phones have 64 gb of space all by default, tecnology thinks to advance and milk people over and over. They could add 200 gb of space, but no... (Lets wait until its necessary so we can reap the people)
One day an OS SYSTEM will be 25-35 and even 45GB SIZE ! AND THAT DAY YOUR 64 Gb will look like its too small, so you will need to buy the 120-200gb version phone.
Our PC motherboards, cpu's, phones all get old and so obsolete with time, all we can do is recycle them, melt them and make a new modern one, resolder, reball them. That's just how the modern industry works today. You cant just hope to upgrade your old junk/Hardware with the latest Software. One day we will get Android 15, A17 too its already planned ! and this phone will not run it, forget it , hoperfully we will be using opensource Linux OS's even more optimized tweaked than what google and these companies can do in the future. NOT BASED on Android 15 or 17.
You cant just hope to put the new hotdog on the old bread. At least not with the current technology/society
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I appreciate your detailed response. So the bottom line is that it's not advisable to put a Ferrari's engine in a Beetle. Also, about what you said, a future smartphone taking 45 GB of HD for system space is wild lol
I bought a Xiaomi Redmi 9A last month and I didn't know it could be so laggy. It works fine for the most part, but there are times I see some noticeable lag, probably because of the reason you mentioned, i.e. A11 (MIUI 12.5) is consuming a lot of its spare 2 GB RAM, though I think this is probably more caused by MIUI and its bloatware than purely Android 11 alone. I have Lineage OS 19 (which is A12) installed on a Galaxy S6, whose hardware specs are somewhat similar to Redmi 9A, and it doesn't cause any noticeable lag. I suspect that installing A11/A12 (but not MIUI!) on Redmi 9A may increase its performance, since it doesn't come with bloatware. What do you think?
glofern97 said:
I appreciate your detailed response. So the bottom line is that it's not advisable to put a Ferrari's engine in a Beetle. Also, about what you said, a future smartphone taking 45 GB of HD for system space is wild lol
I bought a Xiaomi Redmi 9A last month and I didn't know it could be so laggy. It works fine for the most part, but there are times I see some noticeable lag, probably because of the reason you mentioned, i.e. A11 (MIUI 12.5) is consuming a lot of its spare 2 GB RAM, though I think this is probably more caused by MIUI and its bloatware than purely Android 11 alone. I have Lineage OS 19 (which is A12) installed on a Galaxy S6, whose hardware specs are somewhat similar to Redmi 9A, and it doesn't cause any noticeable lag. I suspect that installing A11/A12 (but not MIUI!) on Redmi 9A may increase its performance, since it doesn't come with bloatware. What do you think?
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I correct myself Android 13-14 can run on this phone, we have swap memory, and ways to increase the size of it, today i added 6GB of Swap memory. It makes the phone faster by 15%-20% (That can help to compensate)
But yes, at some point there will be too much size and beef inside a ROM, each linux distro today is 16 gb, they plan to drive Android to have even more functionalities, more compatibility with the pc, a more polished level, the system will get a bit bigger and become sluggish at some point, unless someone does something about it right, thats where the open source developers come in? But by personal experience, i use android since 2012, HTC ONE S, Blu Studio G2 HD, Samsung Galaxy S5 -- the higher you go in Version, the more lag you will encounter for gaming, or daily usage (SPECIALLY IF YOU USE MTK- Mediatek Cpu like this phone has, mtk is very bad compared to snapdragon, and the years of experience have proven it )
For this phone im using Android 11 CRDroid - This is my daily driver
CRDroid v316 GSI (Variant of AOSP-Phh-treble + CRDroid)
You're stuck on MIUI 12.5.4.0 and you cant flash a working custom recovery? You're too lazy or too newbish to build your own? Cant flash any Custom Rom? Well you can just learn how to flash these TREBLE PHH Images, GSI-AOSP based images. Here i...
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I correct myself Android 13-14 can run on this phone, we have swap memory, and ways to increase the size of it, today i added 6GB of Swap memory. It makes the phone faster by 15%-20% (That can help to compensate)
But yes, at some point there will be too much size and beef inside a ROM, each linux distro today is 16 gb, they plan to drive Android to have even more functionalities, more compatibility with the pc, a more polished level, the system will get a bit bigger and become sluggish at some point, unless someone does something about it right, thats where the open source developers come in? But by personal experience, i use android since 2012, HTC ONE S, Blu Studio G2 HD, Samsung Galaxy S5 -- the higher you go in Version, the more lag you will encounter for gaming, or daily usage (SPECIALLY IF YOU USE MTK- Mediatek Cpu like this phone has, mtk is very bad compared to snapdragon, and the years of experience have proven it )
For this phone im using Android 11 CRDroid - This is my daily driver
CRDroid v316 GSI (Variant of AOSP-Phh-treble + CRDroid)
You're stuck on MIUI 12.5.4.0 and you cant flash a working custom recovery? You're too lazy or too newbish to build your own? Cant flash any Custom Rom? Well you can just learn how to flash these TREBLE PHH Images, GSI-AOSP based images. Here i...
forum.xda-developers.com
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It seems MediaTek CPU is not only slower in terms of performance, but also hard to work with when intending to use a custom ROM. I haven't found any official release of a custom ROM for this phone model, "dandelion". LineageOS, Pixel Experience and alike websites; none of them list it. Looking up, it seems this is because there's no open-source version of a firmware for MediaTek chipsets. Lesson learnt to stay away from it on my future purchases.
I may try out the custom ROM you shared if I get stressed enough with the lags. Thanks!
glofern97 said:
It seems MediaTek CPU is not only slower in terms of performance, but also hard to work with when intending to use a custom ROM. I haven't found any official release of a custom ROM for this phone model, "dandelion". LineageOS, Pixel Experience and alike websites; none of them list it. Looking up, it seems this is because there's no open-source version of a firmware for MediaTek chipsets. Lesson learnt to stay away from it on my future purchases.
I may try out the custom ROM you shared if I get stressed enough with the lags. Thanks!
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I love how you said it hahaha , Placing a 2020 Ferrari engine inside a little Bettle or 1998 Ford Fiesta, correct !
It wont fit, or it will have problems, well i come from Android 2.0 , 4.1 , 6.0 marshmellow. I know very well in my old phones i cant flash android 10-11 onwards. Specially because the Internal Memory is of 8 or 16gb , very small.
And because of performance.
Oh yes Xiaomi would never release anything official for Custom Roms hahaha thats like asking the developer to give up on their own creation MIUI ... Which is something i doubt those chinese people can do, they cant even speak proper english. They are all about limiting the user, control their environment, milk them slowly by forcing them to buy many devices, take advantage of their ignorance and bloat their device, polute and make the user feel bad because that makes the client more compulsive, block root with accounts, sell their data, prevent rolling back versions, yet sell at cheap price so that poor people buy us always. Even a Samsung Galaxy S5 from 2015 is faster than this phone and more capable of doing more Linux functions.
It all has a "Chinese" psychology.
There are certainly Roms for mediatek , thats why AOSP Phhusson was released was created too. Mediatek is not only a bit confusing to work with but also Mediatek is simply limited in terms of kernel functions and performance in many devices, yes. Today i can straight forwardly say " Its crap or not so good compared to snapdragon-qualcom " its like comparing AMD GPU with Nvidia right? AMD - Snapdragon are the straight winners for me inside the Linux Kernel. Linux Environment. Nvidia is only good for Windows lately. Right now im trying to create a Regulatory.db , Regulatory.bin , trying to build a new CRDA - Central Regulatory Domain Agent inside this mediatek phone, to increase our wifi range, and its confusing for rookies, indeed. Its like they're telling us in our faces " You cannot change that, thats ilegal " BUT IM A HUMAN BEING I WANNA CHANGE THAT ! i wanna have incredible wifi range, or fry my chip by putting txpower 60 or 30 , who are you to prevent me from doing whatever i want Mediatek or Xiaomi?
ALSO this phone COULD have monitor mode, negated ,they cancelled that with the cpu and the programmed instructions. The kernel, who are you to take away my wifi modes? WHICH HAVE ALWAYS BEEN PRESENT inside ANY Linux Desktop!! So no moral for them to take away functions from the device thats is NEWER.
They basically insulted us, i bought it just to see the insult and now i kinda just play with this phone seeking to fry it or hack it/improve it, i really dont care anymore about what happens to it. But looking forward for the best.
If we do lsmod on the terminal with root. This phone has wmt_chrdev_wifi - wmt_drv which are actually Linux generic conventional names for wifi chips/drivers -- This obfuscated wifi chip/driver name could actually be a
" MT6631 wifi chip " OR " WCN685x " or " mt7615 " either way this chipset could be from 2012-2013, so they placed a 2012 piece on a 2020 phone. The fact that simple commands dont work
mt6357_accdet is actually the name of the IC controller for LED screen and battery.
If we do getprop | grep baseband
The RADIO for SIM CARD, is called LCSH_QOMP1_MT6762_SP (LWCTG_6177M_G)
But everything is so obfuscated and hidden, closed source.
Either way other Older Wifi Chipsets are 2-8 times better than this one. 2014 wifi chip with monitor mode - mt7612 - 5 times stronger. You know why they placed an older chip without mon mode on a new phone? Cuz they know it can get dangerous, but thats not the right approach with us. They messed up big time. They're winning enemies. Witchcraft. They have no idea what HACKING - PROGRAMMING truly means, or how far it can go, once we hack existence and the Soul, we program reality further than the physical and the visual, we're gonna be on the real domain.
jdd1996 said:
I love how you said it hahaha , Placing a 2020 Ferrari engine inside a little Bettle or 1998 Ford Fiesta, correct !
It wont fit, or it will have problems, well i come from Android 2.0 , 4.1 , 6.0 marshmellow. I know very well in my old phones i cant flash android 10-11 onwards. Specially because the Internal Memory is of 8 or 16gb , very small.
And because of performance.
Oh yes Xiaomi would never release anything official for Custom Roms hahaha thats like asking the developer to give up on their own creation MIUI ... Which is something i doubt those chinese people can do, they cant even speak proper english. They are all about limiting the user, control their environment, milk them slowly by forcing them to buy many devices, take advantage of their ignorance and bloat their device, polute and make the user feel bad because that makes the client more compulsive, block root with accounts, sell their data, prevent rolling back versions, yet sell at cheap price so that poor people buy us always. Even a Samsung Galaxy S5 from 2015 is faster than this phone and more capable of doing more Linux functions.
It all has a "Chinese" psychology.
There are certainly Roms for mediatek , thats why AOSP Phhusson was released was created too. Mediatek is not only a bit confusing to work with but also Mediatek is simply limited in terms of kernel functions and performance in many devices, yes. Today i can straight forwardly say " Its crap or not so good compared to snapdragon-qualcom " its like comparing AMD GPU with Nvidia right? AMD - Snapdragon are the straight winners for me inside the Linux Kernel. Linux Environment. Nvidia is only good for Windows lately. Right now im trying to create a Regulatory.db , Regulatory.bin , trying to build a new CRDA - Central Regulatory Domain Agent inside this mediatek phone, to increase our wifi range, and its confusing for rookies, indeed. Its like they're telling us in our faces " You cannot change that, thats ilegal " BUT IM A HUMAN BEING I WANNA CHANGE THAT ! i wanna have incredible wifi range, or fry my chip by putting txpower 60 or 30 , who are you to prevent me from doing whatever i want Mediatek or Xiaomi?
ALSO this phone COULD have monitor mode, negative ,they cancelled that with the cpu and the programmed instructions. The kernel, who are you to take away my wifi modes? WHICH HAVE ALWAYS BEEN PRESENT inside ANY Linux Desktop!! So no moral for them to take away functions from the device thats is NEWER.
They basically insulted us, i bought it just to see the insult and now i kinda just play with this phone seeking to fry it or hack it/improve it, i really dont care anymore about what happens to it. But looking forward for the best.
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Interesting way to look at it. Seeing phones as a political strategy of customer control and profiting out of their data. I hadn't thought this way, but makes sense lol After all, Chinese government is all about limiting and controlling people...
It seems your use case is different than mine. I bought this phone only because I was needing a dual-chip phone for my daily usage (Galaxy S6 is single chip), and it was on a promotion. I had heard good things of Xiaomi from friends who bought their phones, although they hadn't bought this one model specifically. I would really like to use a custom ROM, but the unofficial ones aren't "bulletproof" for this device, as users have reported some bugs. It's safer to stay in the stock ROM side for the time being
I looked up on this Project Treble. Interesting stuff. They are trying to abstract away the firmware code if I understand it correctly. Does that mean that there's hope for MediaTek devices to get support in the future and work smoothly with A13 custom ROMs?
jdd1996 said:
Samsung Galaxy S5 from 2015 is faster than this phone ....
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I can confirm that my LG V20 (released in 2016 but purchased in 2021) can run circles around this Redmi 9A (which I also own), granted one is a flagship with 4GB/64GB while the other is entry-level with 2GB/32GB. But I didn't expect the performance gap to be this wide given the years in between. On the Redmi 9A (2GB), multitasking is 99% impossible; lag is terrible (even double tap to wake is 60% a failure due to lag). I'm not a developer, but I think Xiaomi cut too many corners with the storage speed and/or RAM rather than the processor itself. That's why I'm hoping a lighter ROM like this one can help.
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I can confirm that my LG V20 (released in 2016 but purchased in 2021) can run circles around this Redmi 9A (which I also own), granted one is a flagship with 4GB/64GB while the other is entry-level with 2GB/32GB. But I didn't expect the performance gap to be this wide given the years in between. On the Redmi 9A (2GB), multitasking is 99% impossible; lag is terrible (even double tap to wake is 60% a failure due to lag). I'm not a developer, but I think Xiaomi cut too many corners with the storage speed and/or RAM rather than the processor itself. That's why I'm hoping a lighter ROM like this one can help.
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I did some testing yesterday on another phone I have here, a Samsung Galaxy S4, which has 2GB RAM and runs on Lineage OS 18 (A11). It shouldn't be a surprise that this Galaxy S4 does way better multitasking than Redmi 9A.
I compared the usage of RAM for Android System in the Memory Usage settings app, and it turns out that they are roughly using the same amount of RAM. MIUI's use is around 600 MB, whereas Lineage OS is around 500 MB. That is, only 100 MB of difference. From that, one can assume that it's rather the processor usage that sucks: MIUI is probably using more CPU resources to run its "good-looking", yet heavy interface, whereas LineageOS doesn't, since its interface is simpler.
The downside of those older phones is that their battery drains out way faster. Redmi 9A's battery lasts for a whole day with Wi-Fi turned on. That's one upside of this phone
Lets hope for easier kernel installs, low sized and performance optimized roms in the future. I suggest waiting, for Android 14-15. When the projects and batches are out patched, improved, tested, we can then cater. Yes the phone boots at least haha. 2Gb ram, Helio 25 ! arm32_binder64 - A64 bits !
Maksieku.Tech said:
WHAT WORKS?:
-Wi-Fi - vendor q needed
-BlueTooth - vendor q needed
-RIL
-GPS
-- WHAT DOESN'T WORK? --
Smoothness, thats it
if there are more bugs please report themOfficial LineageOS Site: lineageos.orgH O W T O C L E A N I N S T A L L
1. Use Reccomended recovery (OrangeFox)
2. Wipe Cache & Dalvik data
3. and Format Data
4. Flash vendor Q
5. Flash ROM
6. Reboot
(optional) 7. After Configuring (or turning on the OS) install GAPPS in recovery.
Hope it works
DOWNLOAD LINKS:
ROM
VENDOR Q
SOURCE CODE: S O U R C E
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wich gapps i need to install
AlphaJF972 said:
wich gapps i need to install
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I used BiTGapps, works perfectly
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Where I can get device tree sources to build it from source?
Want to fix some bugs and rebuild for vendor R
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why have they put an old model processor in there? why not the MSM8255?
i am holding out for a little bit, i am due an upgrade now, but dont want to rush into buying this phone if something better is coming.
Plus want to see what modding can be done to the software / themes, 3rd party apps etc
t3rm3y said:
why have they put an old model processor in there? why not the MSM8255?
i am holding out for a little bit, i am due an upgrade now, but dont want to rush into buying this phone if something better is coming.
Plus want to see what modding can be done to the software / themes, 3rd party apps etc
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because Microsoft only support the "old" snapdragon .
why apple customers don't ask them the same question , they use the same GPU as what is in 3gs a year ago ,
a second thing wp7 is developed on the snapdragon which is more than enough for now with it's improved drivers and direct x 9 support , it will perform even 2x better than a DHD with 8255 processor
t3rm3y said:
but dont want to rush into buying this phone if something better is coming.
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Sorry I'm the one that had to break the news, but there is always something better coming...
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hoss_n2 said:
why apple customers don't ask them the same question , they use the same GPU as what is in 3gs a year ago ,
a second thing wp7 is developed on the snapdragon which is more than enough for now with it's improved drivers and direct x 9 support , it will perform even 2x better than a DHD with 8255 processor
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t3rm3y said:
why have they put an old model processor in there? why not the MSM8255?
i am holding out for a little bit, i am due an upgrade now, but dont want to rush into buying this phone if something better is coming.
Plus want to see what modding can be done to the software / themes, 3rd party apps etc
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I have an HD7, it is lag free and very responsive, I think the processor will be up to the task as long as the coding is optimal.
Because having the next most powerful processor isn't important. It doesn't matter what kinda specs a device is running s long as the device runs well. Apple has proved that.
And from what I have seen, MP7 runs beautifully.
Lorddeff07 said:
Because having the next most powerful processor isn't important. It doesn't matter what kinda specs a device is running s long as the device runs well. Apple has proved that.
And from what I have seen, MP7 runs beautifully.
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True that.
Old processor?
Maybe this is a bad news to you, but it's good to me cause of my hd2.
I probably would have been crying about the same thing, if technology was growing by leaps and bounds. But its not right now, technology is kinda stagnate as of lately. Yes, the HD7 has the same processor as its predecessor the HD2, but its not a bad thing. especially now that the new rom has came out for the HD2, it feels faster than ever (you can go on the HD2 and Leo boards to attest for yourself). Another thing to remember, is that the new Windows Phone 7, is not an OS that needs a 2Ghz processor to run buttery smooth. I think that we are used to the PC ideology that the next thing should have a higher number than the last, in order to be considered and respectable upgrade. But even those Intel and AMD processors, reached their, threshold for raw computing power (for now) and the companies are now refining their codes, and drivers, in order to utilize and maximize peak performance out of what they already have. (That's why 4Ghz desktop processors aren't mainstream yet)
Another thing is the WP7 is standardized with base set requirements for internal specs. I truly doubt that you'll find a noticeable difference between all the launch devices behavior with the OS, because of their processors. The mail screen might open up a little quicker on one device, but again, that could be a driver code magic for the display adapter in a particular phone, so the one that "wins" in our mind, should have been the "newer, speedier" processor but because of the refinement and more developed drivers, the one that displayed the inbox quicker was the "older" processor. (I hope you guys got that...lol)
So what I'm trying to say at the end of the day, is it really doesn't matter about the processor spec, because whats inside the HD7 is more than plenty to run the OS and its apps very very nicely.
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INTRO -
Hi all.I made this guide to help people to buy good device.As you all have experience of a worst device,a device which doesn't even run Decent app's or games and from now onwards lets atleast make sure that we buy a Good device
We usually GOOGLE about some good device's out there where we follow what actually the Website's say blindly,but i really don't prefer it.I dont prefer it 'cause the Reviewer usually thinks with a Normal User mentality.We should not only look out for better specs but also for Developer support.Here let's get independent and take the decision of buying phone's by ourself .
ABOUT ANDROID-
Android is a software bunch comprising not only operating system but also middleware and key applications.Android is still very much the ARM instruction set and all Android open source build's are geared towards ARM processors.Android is an ARM-centric OS.Android is a powerful Operating System supporting a large number of applications in Smart Phones. These applications make life more comfortable and advanced for the users. Hardwares that support Android are mainly based on ARM architecture platformApplications
These are the basics of Android applications:
• Android applications are composed of one or more application components (activities, services, content providers, and broadcast receivers)
• Each component performs a different role in the overall application behavior, and each one can be activated individually (even by other applications)
• The manifest file must declare all components in the application and should also declare all application requirements, such as the minimum version of Android required and any hardware configurations required
• Non-code application resources (images, strings, layout files, etc.) should include alternatives for different device configurations (such as different strings for different languages)
THE ARM Processor Family(ABOUT PROCESSOR'S)
ABOUT ARM :
ARM (Advance RISC machines) is a UK company that built's RISC processor's.ARM doesn't sell microphone's intead it linces it's technology to other companies along with the option to drop the Vanilla (non-modified) ARM core in their SoC (System On Chip).Many company's like Qualcom,nVidia create their own processor by using ARM design as Blue-print and yeah ARM has it's share in the profit .
ABOUT SoC (System On Chip) :
The system on Chip is single peice of chip which comprises of CPU,GPU,memory controller ..etc . SoC may either have ARM or x86 core technology.It is a unique chip which is a package that has Baseband,host of controller's that are need to process data.SoC is one single chip which is fabricated with the above stated functions.SOC's are efficient and reduce memory overhead.Top notch Company's's like Qualcom,nVidia,Apple built their SOC's using the blue-print processor design provided by ARM
INSTRUCTION SET :
These are special functions that has a processor can perform several stuff such as Arithmetic instruction,floating point,bit manipulation..etc . ARM support's a variety of instruction's like x86..etc..They also support 64-bit which are high and powerful performance computing chips,whereas 32-bit chips are low-powered,Little performance deliverer .. ARM also support complex instuctions like SIMD instructions
THE ARM ARCHITECTURE :
The ARM Architecture is the base for all ARM related Core's. Usually a companies like Qualcomm,broadcom ,etc which would be creating custom cores will license the Architecture for tweaking it from ARM itself.Using the Architecture and fine-tuning it for special work such as Real Time processing or High complex level purpose they create a particular Family names like Cortex-A, Cortex-R...etc .
THE ARM CORE :
By varying the core clock speed,instruction set,,ARM Produces many cores for SOC builder's . Such is Cortex A7,A8,A9 core family.Cortex family in used in almost every Top Notch device out there.Its completely depends on the OEM/Vendor to opt for the core's that are needed for their Device
So,let's now move to the Basic point's one must keep in mind to buy an Android device ..
1 . SCREEN SIZE :
This is the first thing that must Flash into our mind before buying an Android Device .Screen size is subjective and should be based on your taste.Still,smartphone,it's better to opt for a screen,that's bigger than 4" inches for a Device and more than 7" inches would do good for a Tablet.
2 . RESOLUTION :
Look out for the device which has higher PPI (pixels per inch) value .. PPI more than 250 is considered good but higher the PPI the better the device would be .The best part is that these devices offer the ability to pinch to zoom or tap to zoom which aids in reading even with a lower-size display
3 . HARDWARE :
In terms of Android OS one needs better hardware to get a lacklustre view of browsing and the fact 'THE HIGHER THE BETTER" apply's here too ..Architecture and process nodes boost performance more than stuffing in more cores with enhancement's .. Phone's with Quad-core SOC'S will surely lead to batter draining .. Go for the device which is powered by cortex A9 , A7 technology paired with Quad core's or even dual core's .
3.1 . GPU : ]
Some of the best GPU'S out there are made by Qualcomm (adreno) ,ARM (mali) ..But make sure that you device doesn't have a BROADCOM powered GPU.. Broadcomm has a closed-source policy and they make the Best Buggy GPU'S out there .. Better opt fo Qualcomm powered GPU .Anyway Adreno and Mali based GPU occupy a large chunk over the system and leaving less for you .so make sure your device has 1GB Ram..
4 . UPDATE'S OF ROM :
This is plagued by OEM'S or vendors.This is the main reson behind the stagnating with fragmentation's over verions .This is completely controlled by the device Vendor's .Though Samsung tops in place of providing update but that actually wont be that satisfactory...
Just make sure to check the developement status of the device which you decided to buy, here at XDA .Anyhow if you want a Future-proof device regarding the upgrades then better stick to Nexus Line Family device which are provided by the tech Gaint and Android owner "GOOGLE"..
Hope this thread helped you ..
credits:
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@mathm2013 @Hitesh2626 @DamnTarget FOR FEEDBACK
GFX Bandits and my whatsapp friends ..
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BroadComm for the knowledge they gave to never buy a BCM-powered device again
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Google Nexus 5
$349 (16 GB) or $399 (32 GB) unlocked, but don’t call it “cheap.” Also available starting at $410 on Swappa. With class leading specs and excellent software and developer support, the Nexus 5 is a force to be reckoned with.
You can’t even begin to think about creating a list of the best phones currently available—at any price—without at least mentioning the Google Nexus 5. The LG-sourced device packs some serious computing firepower, including the current best-in-class quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 processor running at 2.26 GHz. It also packs 2 GB of RAM, a 2300 mAh battery, and a gorgeous 5″ 1080p screen with pixels dense enough so that it doesn’t even matter anymore. The camera isn’t the best in the world, and neither is its speaker volume, but both of these issues have since been mitigated somewhat.
What makes this device special isn’t its admittedly great hardware. No, it’s the software. With a stock version of the latest and greatest Android and Google have to offer, as well as virtually limitless development potential, the Nexus 5 is a software tour-de-force.
XDA Breakdown:
Root? Yes
Recovery? Yes.
Unlockable? fastboot oem unlock. Need I say more?
Widespread Aftermarket Developer Support? Yes.
Multiboot? YES!
LG G2
$650 unlocked (or under $200 with carrier subsidy). Also available starting at $470 on Swappa.
Close cousin to the Nexus 5, the LG G2 shares many of its internals with the N5. Though the device features a larger screen and a markedly better camera, it also is weighed down by an OEM skin that only a mother could love. Despite that, the device still packs solid performance, and with a little aftermarket development love, it can truly shine.
XDA Breakdown:
Root? Yes.
Recovery? Yes (guide).
Unlockable? Loki Patch.
Widespread Aftermarket Developer Support? Official AOKP, OmniROM, CyanogenMod, and Paranoid Android available.
Multiboot? No.
Sony Xperia Z1
$609 unlocked. Also available starting at $450 on Swappa.
Sony’s flagship for late 2013 packs quite a punch in the specs department. The device features a super speedy processor, excellent camera, competent screen, and amazing developer friendliness from the OEM.
XDA Breakdown:
Root? Yes.
Recovery? Yes.
Unlockable? Yes.
Widespread Aftermarket Developer Support? Official OmniROM and CyanogenMod available.
Multiboot? No.
Moto X
$529 unlocked (or $99 with carrier subsidy). Also available starting at $390 on Swappa. Motorola’s flagship isn’t so much a flagship as it is an everyman’s phone.
Rather than cramming as many MHz and GB as possible into as think a device as possible, Motorola chose a different path. They instead came up with a few incredibly innovative software additions and tailored the hardware to match. As such, the Moto X doesn’t directly compete with the Samsung Galaxies and the HTC Ones of the world, at least not in raw specs, but it doesn’t have to. It’s a great device that offers solid performance and a reasonably good screen. And the touchless controls aren’t just the icing on the cake; they are the cake.
XDA Breakdown:
Root? RockMyMoto.
Recovery? Yes.
Unlockable? RockMyMoto
Widespread Aftermarket Developer Support? Not at the moment. A few source-built ROMs including official PAC nightlies, but no official PA, Omni, or CM for the device.
Multiboot? No.
PHABLETS
Samsung Galaxy Note 3http://www.xda-developers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/samsung-galaxy-note-3-300x236.jpg
$645 unlocked (or under $300 with carrier subsidy). Also available starting at $550 on Swappa. When you need to do more, you can with various Samsung S Pen apps.
The Galaxy Note 3 continues to be the only very large phone that truly offers a “phablet” experience. Rather that simply making a very large phone, Samsung has made a device that is capable of doing fundamentally more than most phones. Now, you need to deal with TouchWiz in order to gain this functionality. But for many, the trade-off is well worth it.
XDA Breakdown:
Root? Yes.
Recovery? Yes.
Widespread Aftermarket Developer Support? Yes, but depends on variant.
Multiboot? No.
Sony Xperia Z Ultra
$520 unlocked. Also available starting at $430 on Swappa.
Although it lacks the S Pen functionality of Samsung’s Galaxy Note 3, the Xperia Z Ultra has one added trick up its sleeve: the recently launched Z Ultra Google Play edition. Due to their hardware similarities, it’s not unreasonable to assume that the GPe ROM will be ported over to the standard device, and that’s good news for Z Ultra owners everywhere!
OLDER FLAGSHIP DEVICES
HTC One
$540 unlocked. Also starting at $329 on Swappa.
HTC Started the year off strong with the HTC One. When we covered the launch back in March, we were quite impressed with the device’s stunning screen, speedy processor, tasteful skin, and beautiful build quality. While the phone is no longer one of the fastest devices available, it is still a powerful device for those looking for a sculpted work of art, rather than the bleeding edge in mobile tech.
XDA Breakdown:
Root? Yes.
Recovery? Yes.
Unlockable? Yes.
Widespread Aftermarket Developer Support? Official OmniROM and CyanogenMod, depending on variant.
Multiboot? Yes!
Google Edition Conversion? Yes!
Samsung Galaxy S 4
$560 unlocked. Also starting at $380 on Swappa.
While it’s starting to fall behind in the specs war compared to newer devices, Samsung’s Galaxy S 4 still packs quite a bit of power, a fantastic screen, great battery life, a nice camera, and expandable storage. Furthermore, the device has a healthy development community with more mods, tweaks, ROMs, and kernels than you can shake a stick at.
XDA Breakdown:
Root? Yes.
Recovery? Yes.
Widespread Aftermarket Developer Support? Varies depending on variant, but generally yes.
Oppo Find 5
$500 unlocked. Also starting at $310 on Swappa.
The Oppo Find 5 is a great device with a fantastic camera and impeccable screen. Its Snapdragon S4 Pro is no longer the fastest SoC available, but it can still breeze through most tasks without any slowdown. Finally, Oppo’s developer-friendly attitude earns it a place among all the heavyweights.
XDA Breakdown:
Root? Yes.
Recovery? Yes.
Widespread Aftermarket Developer Support? Official AOKP, Paranoid Android, and CyanogenMod.
On a Budget
Moto G
$179 (8 GB) or $199 (16 GB) direct.
This one’s simple. If you’ve only got $200 or less, and you want an unlocked phone, get a Moto G. It’s a solid phone at an utterly fantastic price. Developer support isn’t quite there yet, but with such good price/performance, we can’t imagine it being too far.
XDA Breakdown:
Root? Yes.
Recovery? Yes.
Unlockable? Through Motorola.
Widespread Aftermarket Developer Support? better than galaxy ace-i's
CREDITS: xda holiday guide 2013
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Are you sure you don't want to credit also BroadCom for the knowledge they gave you and us? They teached us to never buy a BCM-powered device again (except for a Raspberry Pi maybe :fingercrossed: )
Reserved, just in case
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Giupy 99 said:
Are you sure you don't want to credit also BroadCom for the knowledge they gave you and us? They teached us to never buy a BCM-powered device again (except for a Raspberry Pi maybe :fingercrossed: )
Reserved, just in case
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Sure buddy .. lol
But i believe Dev support is because Moto G just arrived, we haven't seen much of what it can do until now. I believe it and Moto X are the best by relation price/benefit.
Note 3 the Best!
mathm2013 said:
But i believe Dev support is because Moto G just arrived, we haven't seen much of what it can do until now. I believe it and Moto X are the best by relation price/benefit.
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Believe me ,after Moto-G releases worldwide it might have Good developer support .. It might even have official support from CM,PAC,OmNI dev's ..
Motorola released the source code of Moto-x ,day before yesterday ..so in near future ,they might be releasing Moto-G source code along with device drivers ..
I like this phone!
Hey!
I like cooperve. Fact that there are complications made me to think more about all android. Right now I'm not so stupid as many people in supper-device-support-forum who are asking for any stupid thing. Compiling your own kernel because You want more freqs and ext2 (not ext4), and trying to trick device (Samsung reported 384MB RAM, CONFIG_CMDLINE uses 362MB, we have 289MB. I've increased CMDLINE to 364MB and nearly bricked device, but OS reported me 291MB Ha! ["?CONFIG_?"CMDLINE_FORCE=y]). Creating your own ROM (ROM created by someone else but You must customize it before flash). But I understand. I've bought this device for fun (I'm doing only this with all electronical equipment [even fridge]) and You don't must like this device.
My next step wil be GTAB2 + XPERIAZ.
misha1996 said:
Note 3 the Best!
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One can buy it only if you enough money in your Hands ..
640 dollars buddy
Mr.Gentleman said:
One can buy it only if you enough money in your Hands ..
640 dollars buddy
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Not only money. Gotta see if it fits on your hand
Prestigio's phones are good with dual sim cards and big displays. Prestigio Website
Flamestorm said:
Prestigio's phones are good with dual sim cards and big displays. Prestigio Website
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Oh ! Great ! ..
Their are many many vendors which produce Good device at a reliable price but still the developer support will take us back ..
Their is a Local company in India called "MicroMax" this company actually became the whistle blower after releasing it's Canvas Device Family .. Even top companies like samsung,hTc faced tuff competition from this Canvas family device's ..But still this Great Company is called as "Re-Branded chinese device" (atleast refered as, by iamareebjamal) .. In similiar way every local company is called as "Chinese device" ,though it ain't ..
And great news guys ..tech Gaint Nokia is going to release its first Android device .. If they do,then samsung will be living in shadows of Nokia as it was some 4-6 years ago ..
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And great news guys ..tech Gaint Nokia is going to release its first Android device .. If they do,then samsung will be living in shadows of Nokia as it was some 4-6 years ago ..
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dont excite bro. i was heard that a while ago but now ive heard a new info about that nokia isnt gonna release an android device they will go with wp.
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Nokia Normandy was supposed to be the first Nokia Android device. It was code name for a device on which they were testing Android. But I don't know what is going to happen that changes the mind of a company which refused Android on the first hand, specially, after it's under Microsoft's control
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Nokia Normandy was supposed to be the first Nokia Android device. It was code name for a device on which they were testing Android. But I don't know what is going to happen that changes the mind of a company which refused Android on the first hand, specially, after it's under Microsoft's control
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Anyway Nokia took Wrong choice .They wanted to bring something out-of-box by taking Windows as their primary OS ... Unfortunately they hit the wrong store .
Though Microsoft's Metro UI and lumia family is good , they lost in options of Customization and in the Availability of Apps . ..
Anyway Jolla is Quite Awesome.. (must check it out ! )
Mr.Gentleman said:
Anyway Jolla is Quite Awesome.. (must check it out ! )
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yeah sailfish os is quite awesome i loved it but i think its expensive for that hardware. i would buy it if its 300€
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Loved The second Post mahn. GG ^_^
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Lalit Patil said:
Loved The second Post mahn. GG ^_^
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Glad you like it .
Sooner or later i'm gonna add about best Tablet's in #3 post
For those who absolutely want an Android Lumia, there's a phone called "Nokia N9" which has an OS (MeeGO, the base of Jolla Sailfish) that is based on Linux. Some devs ported ICS and JB on it, take a look on YouTube
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Hello, I just got my Mi5 it has miui 7.5 and I noticed that out of it's 3Gb or ram, without any application running the phone says it only has 1.5 available, that was the first thing that I didn't like, then it has all those chinese applications, that I don't want to be on my phone. So I saw that poll of "What ROM is your favorite?" or something like that and the MIUI 7 has 0 votes, while the MIUI 8 has like 20% and the cyanogenmod 13 like 40% out of 50 votes. I know this is XDA so there is going to be some bias towards cyanogenmod, so I find surprising that MIUI 8 has 20% of the votes. So I was wondering what are the differences between the 2, and what are the pros and cons of both of those ROMs, thanks!
I would say that try them both for a while. Personally ive been going back n forth and currently running cm13 16th nov nightly which has been pretty good. I do miss soft touch on homebutton and also the better dropdown notification from miui8 or cm14/android 7 but cm14 isnt quite stable yet and also lacks soft touch etc.
I did try miui 8 stable 8.1.3.0 recently and it felt really fluid and snappy, I also miss my native language in miui but im working on translating it and might go full time miui when im done. Oh and yeah camera is better on miui aswell.
Other differences exist but as I mentioned, better to try both out for yourself to get your own opinion on it
Btw, dont worry so much about memory usage. Its better that the memory is used than not. Memory is flushed really quickly (which you shouldnt even notice unless there is a problem in coding or os optimisation) when needed for the next app/s that need it
Personally, I decided to stick with MIUI8. I must say, I like the UI more than stock android. It has its faults, like google backup (well, restore) not working, or MI cloud bugging you to sync, but that's solvable with root access. Just backup/sync once, then freeze the cloud apk and you're done. Unfreeze next time you need it.
tndb said:
Btw, dont worry so much about memory usage. Its better that the memory is used than not. Memory is flushed really quickly (which you shouldnt even notice unless there is a problem in coding or os optimisation) when needed for the next app/s that need it
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I'd like to reiterate that. Unused RAM is useless RAM, if you only look at how much you have free, what do you need it for?
There is a difference between not having enough RAM and having enough, even though it's full. Most implementations cache frequently used data in RAM, which is quickly dropped if a program need it. What the user gets from this (if done right), is subjectively more fluid experience.
Miui for camera +fp tap to home
Cm13-custom kernel+very smooth +stock ui
I have to say I was sceptical about MIUI( couse I'm used to CM,way back to SGS2), but recently bought Mi5 prime, and decide to give a try to MIUI,and I must say I was pleasantly surprised...Currently running MIUI global 8.1.2.0 stable
MIUI 8 is better for normal life
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no updates
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Becauase JIDE was dead.
come again
Totally dead. They already give official statement in their Facebook Page
Requiem aeternam dona eis, Domine,
et lux perpetua luceat eis.
JIDE is NOT dead - just targeting enterprises (not ordinary users)
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Requiem aeternam dona eis, Domine,
et lux perpetua luceat eis.
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JIDE is moving FROM ordinary users to enterprises; and I don't exactly blame them.
Let's be honest with ourselves - the two biggest problems RemixOS products face (all of them) is that they aim (literally) too high in the Android-on-PC subspace (two ways they aim too high - they are based on MM - not KK or L, which is where all the action is, and the reality is that - for precisely that reason - RemixOS is STILL too "hefty" for the Android-emulator space (which is still where the action remains, as opposed to the replacement-for-Windows space). If you have 16 GB of RAM, you CAN run RemixOS alongside Windows - however, why would you, unless there is a specific app/game that you want to run that requires MM or N - and even then, it's STILL easier to run that game or app on a device. The only folks that are going to be looking at that niche use (and the reality is that it IS a niche use) are enterprises and corporate users - not the everyday user. And, if anything, the availability of cheaper N devices (such as the launch of Lnovo's Tab 3 Essential line - which is now based on a commodity-designed Qualcomm SoC - as opposed to the original Mediatek SoC that Lenovo started with) has created a reliable easier-to-target SoC without the problems of Mediatek (at least for now, Qualcomm is NOT repeating the errors that got them in hot water in the networking space - the same errors that got Mediatek in hot water in the SoC space); basically, Qualcomm learned from the mistake they made in networking - the same mistake that the competition did NOT learn (and instead repeated). Result - the complaint that folks are making about Qualcomm is that they are a quasi-monopoly; however, how is it Qualcomm's fault that it learned from the mistakes that IT made elsewhere - and their competition largely didn't? Unless Qualcomm makes a similar egregious error to the one that Mediatek made (or that Qualcomm itself made in networking) I don't see them going anywhere - especially with other ARM licensees and competitors shooting themselves in one or both feet.
If you are in the emulation space (running alongside Windows), there is next to zero reason you would want an MM-based emulator - and especially if you have less than 16GB of system RAM. (I found myself replacing RemixOS Player with MEMu Player (which is still based on KitKat) after I added a second N-based Android device (ex-VZW Galaxy S7 running in SIMless/tablet mode) to my daily-driver Samsung GNex. Let's be honest - even as a TABLET, the two-year-old Snapdragon-driven S7 is far from a slouch; it's plenty speedy - and without the heavy lifting that phones typically have to do, if anything, it's even faster. Then there is the reality that there aren't many tablets (or phablets, for that matter) that can run N reliably without causing wallet rape (all of seven prior to the return of the Note7 - now the Note7 FE) - and three of those are not only Nexus devices, but are no longer manufactured - Nexus 6 (Motorola), Nexus 7 (ASUS) and Nexus 9 (HTC). The other four? Shield K1 (nVidia), Shield Original tablet (also nVidia), Galaxy Tab S2 (Samsung) and Pixel C. The vote in terms of emulators of the Android sort remains low-end/cheap - not the higher end stuff that JIDE built.
PGHammer said:
JIDE is moving FROM ordinary users to enterprises; and I don't exactly blame them.
Let's be honest with ourselves - the two biggest problems RemixOS products face (all of them) is that they aim (literally) too high in the Android-on-PC subspace (two ways they aim too high - they are based on MM - not KK or L, which is where all the action is, and the reality is that - for precisely that reason - RemixOS is STILL too "hefty" for the Android-emulator space (which is still where the action remains, as opposed to the replacement-for-Windows space). If you have 16 GB of RAM, you CAN run RemixOS alongside Windows - however, why would you, unless there is a specific app/game that you want to run that requires MM or N - and even then, it's STILL easier to run that game or app on a device. The only folks that are going to be looking at that niche use (and the reality is that it IS a niche use) are enterprises and corporate users - not the everyday user. And, if anything, the availability of cheaper N devices (such as the launch of Lnovo's Tab 3 Essential line - which is now based on a commodity-designed Qualcomm SoC - as opposed to the original Mediatek SoC that Lenovo started with) has created a reliable easier-to-target SoC without the problems of Mediatek (at least for now, Qualcomm is NOT repeating the errors that got them in hot water in the networking space - the same errors that got Mediatek in hot water in the SoC space); basically, Qualcomm learned from the mistake they made in networking - the same mistake that the competition did NOT learn (and instead repeated). Result - the complaint that folks are making about Qualcomm is that they are a quasi-monopoly; however, how is it Qualcomm's fault that it learned from the mistakes that IT made elsewhere - and their competition largely didn't? Unless Qualcomm makes a similar egregious error to the one that Mediatek made (or that Qualcomm itself made in networking) I don't see them going anywhere - especially with other ARM licensees and competitors shooting themselves in one or both feet.
If you are in the emulation space (running alongside Windows), there is next to zero reason you would want an MM-based emulator - and especially if you have less than 16GB of system RAM. (I found myself replacing RemixOS Player with MEMu Player (which is still based on KitKat) after I added a second N-based Android device (ex-VZW Galaxy S7 running in SIMless/tablet mode) to my daily-driver Samsung GNex. Let's be honest - even as a TABLET, the two-year-old Snapdragon-driven S7 is far from a slouch; it's plenty speedy - and without the heavy lifting that phones typically have to do, if anything, it's even faster. Then there is the reality that there aren't many tablets (or phablets, for that matter) that can run N reliably without causing wallet rape (all of seven prior to the return of the Note7 - now the Note7 FE) - and three of those are not only Nexus devices, but are no longer manufactured - Nexus 6 (Motorola), Nexus 7 (ASUS) and Nexus 9 (HTC). The other four? Shield K1 (nVidia), Shield Original tablet (also nVidia), Galaxy Tab S2 (Samsung) and Pixel C. The vote in terms of emulators of the Android sort remains low-end/cheap - not the higher end stuff that JIDE built.
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in vino veritas, acta non verba..
diehard2013 said:
in vino veritas, acta non verba..
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Just a thought here: If Jide had any thoughts about not being committed to this project, why did they even bother collaborating with the Android-x86 project in the first place? And why did they wait so long, between the latest releases of Remix OS (mid-November) and the official announcement?
With Remix OS for PC/Windows out of the picture (and with it, gone is perhaps one of the best--if not THE best--graphic environments for an Android-based OS), which of the remaining Android-based operating systems would you recommend? Right now, I'm giving consideration to either Phoenix or BlueStacks. If I had to choose, I'd be tempted to go with BlueStacks, because it has its own front end (or whatever it is called, which Remix OS had in Remix OS Player) which runs inside Win7/10; while for Phoenix (which has the better-looking graphic environment), I'd probably have to use VirtualBox or VMware, since as of now I don't know if they (or anyone else) developed a front end for this OS to run in a window inside Win7/10.
CookyMonzta said:
Just a thought here: If Jide had any thoughts about not being committed to this project, why did they even bother collaborating with the Android-x86 project in the first place? And why did they wait so long, between the latest releases of Remix OS (mid-November) and the official announcement?
With Remix OS for PC/Windows out of the picture (and with it, gone is perhaps one of the best--if not THE best--graphic environments for an Android-based OS), which of the remaining Android-based operating systems would you recommend? Right now, I'm giving consideration to either Phoenix or BlueStacks. If I had to choose, I'd be tempted to go with BlueStacks, because it has its own front end (or whatever it is called, which Remix OS had in Remix OS Player) which runs inside Win7/10; while for Phoenix (which has the better-looking graphic environment), I'd probably have to use VirtualBox or VMware, since as of now I don't know if they (or anyone else) developed a front end for this OS to run in a window inside Win7/10.
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It's not that anything necessarily is WRONG with RemixOS - nobody has said that (not me - or anyone else, for that matter) - it's simply overkill for what most users want. It's like the market for high-end GPUs (without the price factor); it's still a niche market. As good a graphical environment as RemixOS - and Marshmallow itself, for that matter - is, why have things moved north (on actual Android devices) and stayed south (on Windows-based Android emulators)?
As the default OS (as is the case with devices), unless you are talking the low and cheap end, N is the new JellyBean - not MM. (Note that instead of doing OTAs for the existing J3 - which is running MM - Samsung chose a hardware refresh instead; this is despite the J3 pre-refresh being barely two years old - and not even that in North America,) As an emulator core (alongside or within Windows), the tendency is STILL to prefer lightweight emulators - which still means KitKat or JellyBean - primarily so Windows (the core OS) can keep most of the resources itself. RemixOS Player didn't require vmWare OR Oracle VirtualBox - just like most of the KK or JB-based emulators; hence none of them are shackled to HAXM. I RAN RemixOS Player because I could take higher-end Android games to it - which wasn't - and still isn't - the case for most emulators - with OR without HAXM. However, gaining that S7 did away with my own need for a high-end emulator. (Remember, the S7 - while not shipping with N - instead, it shipped with MM - now can be blanked and factory-type N-ified using nothing more complicated than either Odin or Heimdall.)
What is further trouble for JIDE is that N is expanding at the low-end. I mentioned earlier Samsung's J3 refresh (which is now N-based - not the MM of the previous version); the same is true of Lenovo's Tab 3 Essential - a refresh of the earlier Tab 2 series of tablets and phablets. Unlike the Tab 2 (which started at KK and went only to L - with only the phablets going beyond L with community ROMs, and typically in languages OTHER than English), the Tab 3 Essential has changed SoCs from MediaTek (MTK) to Qualcomm - they also ship with N out of the box. Amazingly, the price tags went nowhere compared to the MTK predecessors - even the largest of the new line is BARELY $100 from Amazon - including shipping for non-Prime customers. With N for cheap, whither RemixOS? (Basically, RemixOS is being made moot by N on devices - not nice, but there it is.)
What are you guys transitioning to? Any suggestion for someone who was looking into purchasing another Jide solution?
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What are you guys transitioning to? Any suggestion for someone who was looking into purchasing another Jide solution?
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You mean SW or HE'S?
anyone still usinng it?
hi guys. anyone still using it? is it stable enough? im thinking to install it on my pixel c tablet
These are project for which
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Give me a link pixel experience Android p for resume 4x
Hey guys,
I'm planning going back to Remix OS 3.0 (MM) on my Pixel C since AOSP really sucks for a lapotp like tablet like the Pixel C.
But I am worried about Security... Is it possible to use Antivir software like Avast to compensate the missing security updates?
If yes, can you recommend me an antivir app?
I think we should have opened a discussion on some important points,
1 adaptive storage, which I will draw on some specific model as our most has active others such as moto one, G6, and G7, motorcycle c, motorcycle and, we have to see if there is any limitation of hardware or software only thing, because this speech that Google does not support or that the cards do not have enough quality, not real, because every month we have models released with updated with this support.
2, dp vs dpi = 480 standard and high for this screen size, the base of android and 160, then it means that we have a base x3 of scale, this is legal for a worse point on the other, as this increases a lot more quality, the more the information displayed. You gain large, borderless icons plus loses in detail. Solution likely to set screen resolution lower than 540p, to have equibrio between size and quantity, or @ 1080p to have full amount of pixel there is screen, but if it is in stock has to activate a third party lacucher, because Motorola laucher does not support this pattern .
3, gpu is clock different from the specified, because it was to have maxima clock of 850mhz, more in the last version that I did read in the android with rom stock it was in setada the clock max 700mhz, more main problem was that even taking Max to 700mhz, in a good part of game and app it gets 450 MHz with low FPS content, even if it is not in the FPS limit of the game or application, it did not raise clock to its maximum .. probable solution for who has root, exchange governor gpu using kernel auditor, by order or by performance
4, this is less important and only one more doubt, mixed with indignation,. Because Samsung and some other privileged manufacturers can use 32bit android on their handset, which infinitely lighter and less consumer ram. What the 64bit, which Google has been forcing developer to use since the Android ..
It seems to prank some more Samsung with snapdragon 425 and 2gb of ram and HD + screen with 32bit android has usability, and multitasking better than our device that has 630 and 3gb of ram more with Android 64bit.
Mano has 5 years I see Google saying that there is no more Android 32bit, even so every year there is cell phone with input clip using Android 32bit fighting from equal to equal with Android intermediate with Android 64bit.
And I'm sorry if I said some nonsense, I do not understand much about development, but I had several devices and always made modifications, and always following the tropics and the developers
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I think we should have opened a discussion on some important points,
And I'm sorry if I said some nonsense, I do not understand much about development, but I had several devices and always made modifications, and always following the tropics and the developers
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So.... What are you trying to accomplish with this "discussion" that is probably already addressed in another thread??
jbaumert said:
So.... What are you trying to accomplish with this "discussion" that is probably already addressed in another thread??
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yes and no, yes, because all the tropics in general seek 3 things (support, features or performance), and I'm approaching this three point, and yes! and discussion then everyone is welcome to try on a chair to have a coffee and speak their point of view .. #not much sound on this device and if we do not talk and we work together on it, we will not get a survival of it