I saw on another thread that by default HSUPA is disabled. Does anyone know how to enable this?
Thanks in advance...
Do any networks anywhere even have HSUPA? I'm fairly sure its coming this year on most UK networks, but doesn't the US not even have proper 3G?
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1311
No HSUPA
When I saw this question, I had a feeling that it was a rumoured spec, and then wasn't in the Diamond, but only in the Touch Pro.
Rory
In Germany we have some networks that offer HSUPA (e.g. T-Mobile, Vodafone).
What about the concurrent usage of HSUPA and HSDPA? I recently saw in the xperia x1 datasheet that concurrent usage of both techniques is possible at reduced speed of HSDPA (down to 3,6 MBit/s).
The question is, how does the diamond deal with this? I still wonder why the feature was disabled at all? I currently own a HTC TyTN and also had to enable HSDPA using some hacks. What I realized is a colossal battery consumption when using HSDPA.
So maybe HSUPA was disabled at the diamond for a good reason? Maybe the battery drain is too huge when HSUPA is turned on?
Unfortunately there is still not much reporting about this feature in the forums.
I'm really strugling to understand what you could possibly need HSUPA for on a mobile!
What data could you possibly need to upload at such speed? I imagine they disabled HSUPA to save on battery life. There's so very very few applications of it where you would see a difference.
HKLM\Software\HTC\AdvancedNetwork:
SupportHSUPA <--- set this value to "1", (default values is: "0")
someone1234 said:
I'm really strugling to understand what you could possibly need HSUPA for on a mobile!
What data could you possibly need to upload at such speed? I imagine they disabled HSUPA to save on battery life. There's so very very few applications of it where you would see a difference.
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Please keep in mind that some people (like me) use the device also in connection with a laptop (ICS). Sending a bunch of data from a laptop is not very unlikely.
Surely it might not be essential, but if the device basically supports this feature, I would like to take benefit of it.
@SecureGSM
Do I have to reboot the device after the registry change? (I currently do not own the device, therefore I have to ask).
If it's easy to switch it on and off just by registry without reboot, then I have no problem with this as the device is charged while connected via USB. But it would not be very nice if I had to reboot the device everytime I connect and disconnect it from my laptop in order to enable or disable HSUPA.
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HKLM\Software\HTC\AdvancedNetwork:
SupportHSUPA <--- set this value to "1", (default values is: "0")
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Cool, thanks for that.
foo said:
Please keep in mind that some people (like me) use the device also in connection with a laptop (ICS).
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Which is exactly why I need this device... finally I can get rid of my PCMCIA-Data-Card and even better - change from two contract to one+data option.
foo said:
Please keep in mind that some people (like me) use the device also in connection with a laptop (ICS). Sending a bunch of data from a laptop is not very unlikely.
Surely it might not be essential, but if the device basically supports this feature, I would like to take benefit of it.
@SecureGSM
Do I have to reboot the device after the registry change? (I currently do not own the device, therefore I have to ask).
If it's easy to switch it on and off just by registry without reboot, then I have no problem with this as the device is charged while connected via USB. But it would not be very nice if I had to reboot the device everytime I connect and disconnect it from my laptop in order to enable or disable HSUPA.
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You may need a soft reset... You will almost certainly need to switch the phone functionality off and on.
foo said:
Please keep in mind that some people (like me) use the device also in connection with a laptop (ICS). Sending a bunch of data from a laptop is not very unlikely.
Surely it might not be essential, but if the device basically supports this feature, I would like to take benefit of it.
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Yes but sending large amounts of data, or 'serving' large amounts of data is only ever usefull when running services. Since networks use private addresses and you have no access obviously to redirect ports, its kind of useless. There are VERY VERY few reasons to use HSUPA, and i'm sure anyone would struggle to justify any of them to me.
Its a cool acronym, but useless in todays network topologies.
Btw, ICS ontop of the exisiting NAT carried out by the GGSN will cause a myriad of problems with out going source initiated connections.
I have designed and VO'd alot of IP, 2G, 2.5G and 3G equipment, so if you have any questions or queries about the technology i am happy to explain.
My personal view is that enabling HSUPA without a specific need is to your detriment. The power consumption does not justify the minimal increase in upload for typical short packets, even after overhead.
Can anyone tell me the difference between the big bright "H" and the dimmed and smaller "H" that shows on the top menu bar?
I guess it has something to do with this matter discussed in this thread, but I'm not sure.
NOTE: I haven't made any tweak to the phone...yet
HastaSSSS
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Yes but sending large amounts of data, or 'serving' large amounts of data is only ever usefull when running services. Since networks use private addresses and you have no access obviously to redirect ports, its kind of useless. There are VERY VERY few reasons to use HSUPA, and i'm sure anyone would struggle to justify any of them to me.
Its a cool acronym, but useless in todays network topologies.
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I don't get the point. Just imagine you want to send your friends some nice photos of your last vacation or your new favorite MP3 Song(s). Such a song may have about 5-10 MBytes, which takes 3-4 minutes to be transfered using ordinary UMTS (assuming you get 384 kbit/s upload, which is also not always the case).
Sure, you (or your friend) can wait 3-4 Minutes, but HSUPA does the same in less then a minute. And if you want to send more then one song, then you will be really happy having HSUPA.
Next example: I upload all my photo stuff to flickr. I have some Gigabytes of images stored there already and it is a colossal pain in the ass to upload them. I would even consider using HSUPA for this as with 1,4 MBit/s it's faster then my stationary Internet connection. (1 MBit/s upload)
Next example: Uploading an almost 100 MByte Video to YouTube (I've also done this several times). With UMTS you don't want to do this, at least it will be very annoying to wait until it's done. With HSUPA it's not a big deal.
Next example: Online Photo development - no need to explain the advantage of HSUPA here...
So you see, it's not about running a server, it's just about actively sending data (FTP/SCP Client connections, email with attachments, webform uploads (webspace, flickr, youtube, ...), ...)
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Btw, ICS ontop of the exisiting NAT carried out by the GGSN will cause a myriad of problems with out going source initiated connections.
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Might be, but this is what I do now for almost 2 years with my TyTN already. It's okay for me, I can do VPN with the company I work for, access my home-PC using Remote Desktop Connection, surf the net, send emails, use messengers, receive live TV / music via streaming from my home-PC, use SSH Tunnels to get remote access to my home network, use FTP Client connections.
See, there are a lot of possibilities and that's all I want and that's sufficient for a lot of other people as well.
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My personal view is that enabling HSUPA without a specific need is to your detriment. The power consumption does not justify the minimal increase in upload for typical short packets, even after overhead.
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Well, I might have different requirements then you, but I gave you some examples where it absolutely makes sense to have HSUPA.
Yes you're absolutly right, its is usefull for faster uploads, thats basically what it does!
But like i said its only usefull in very specific scenarios, like you described. For normal usage, web, mail (unless you constantly forward large atachments), MMS its not worth it.
What your describing would probably kill your battery in a few hours anyway.
With regards to ICS, you're talking about use the phone as a 'modem', or sharing the phones internet connection with your PC's. This doesnt work the same way as ICS on a pc, its specifically a one to one connection from phone to your PC, so there's no double net. Sorry for the confusion.
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What your describing would probably kill your battery in a few hours anyway.
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The nice thing is that my TyTN and hopefully the Diamond / Touch Pro as well, is charging while connected to the laptop using ICS. So while I'm connected to a laptop I do not care about battery life and when I use the phone in "standalone mode", I don't need HSUPA.
Therefore I would appreciate if it could be easily turned on and off.
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With regards to ICS, you're talking about use the phone as a 'modem', or sharing the phones internet connection with your PC's. This doesnt work the same way as ICS on a pc, its specifically a one to one connection from phone to your PC, so there's no double net. Sorry for the confusion.
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Yes, that's right, but "modem" and ICS is different also when using it on the mobile device:
In Windows Mobile 5 I used a modem application and got the private class A network address from my mobile provider also on the laptop.
In Windows Mobile 6 I use the ICS application and have a new indirection. The laptop get's a private class C address and the mobile device also has the private class A address from the provider.
The provider itself does some additional NAT to translate my private class A address to something valid for the Internet.
e.g.
Provider / Public IP
92.116.25.X (Internet)
10.X.X.X (WAN)
____|______
Mobile Device
10.X.X.X (WAN)
192.168.0.1 ("LAN")
____|_____
Laptop
192.168.0.102 ("LAN")
Sorry for a little bit off topic here.
Saw in above post someone mentioned about Touch Pro & Xperia.
Are they actually same hardware with different clothing. And Xperia uses MicroSD and does not use M2.
Heard somewhere SE engaged some Taiwan company to make M$ Phone.
s1rl4ncel0t said:
Can anyone tell me the difference between the big bright "H" and the dimmed and smaller "H" that shows on the top menu bar?
I guess it has something to do with this matter discussed in this thread, but I'm not sure.
NOTE: I haven't made any tweak to the phone...yet
HastaSSSS
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G = gprs available in area (BTS supports gprs)
E = edge available in area (BTS supports edge)
H = HSDPA available in area (BTS supports HSDPA)
The same letter next to the signal means you're connected using that technology. Same letter with the signal bars changed to arrows means your transfering data using that technology.
Yeah, I know that...
The thing is that sometimes the big "H" becomes just a bit smaller and the white box becomes dimmed...
My first thought would be it shows up when the phone trying to find something...synchronizing, ....
I wish I've taken a screenshot...but it happens randomly...
And then I thought: could it be that the big sharp "H" is when the phone is under HSUPA, and when the "H" is a bit smaller and the box becomes dimmer, than it's under HSDPA?...
Bye
hmm the dimmed one is probabaly a handover.
mouseymousey said:
I saw on another thread that by default HSUPA is disabled. Does anyone know how to enable this?
Thanks in advance...
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I found it in the registy database, and was now given the option to enable it together with HSDPA.
Simply install a reg editor on your Diamond, search for HSUPA, change Value to 1, and you can now enable HSUPA on your Diamond.
I have not tested if it acually makes ha difference, I don't know how ;-)
Or better still flash your rom to the TLR one and its available in the options ie you can enable it or disable it. SAves having to go through the registry to change the setting.
I regularly setup wifi networks that use all 21 5GHz channels and I need to tune them for phone antennas. I've been trying to find a way to make my Nexus 6 use all the available 5GHz channels but so far I haven't found anything. It currently supports the UNII-1 and UNII-3 bands as well as the ISM channel but the UNII-2 and UNII-2E bands aren't visible to the device. As far as I can tell it isn't a limitation of the hardware but a software choice made by Google because scanning all 21 channels uses up too much battery.
So anyone know how to force the Nexus 6 to see the entire 5GHz band?
I'd be interested in this info also.
Bump.
Gentle bump.
Nexus 6 DFS
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Gentle bump.
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Anone found anything out on this. Google support and Motorola T3 don't even know what channels it should see. I'm baffled and have a phone replacement arriving tomorrow
The best I've found in some really deep support forums is that the hardware "technically" supports it but the hit to battery life when scanning all 21 5GHz channels isn't acceptable. That's why they've disabled it in base android. Someone would have to custom write a driver and it probably would hit battery life in an unacceptable way.
They finally enabled all 5GHz WiFi channels in the latest driver.
You can get it with this kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...ernel-leankernel-minimalistic-kernel-t2954316
I'm not sure if this is a networking issue or phone issue, but I think I got this narrowed down to a phone issue.
I currently have a 105mbps plan through Comcast and all is working well except my Nexus 6 WiFi SpeedTest maxes out at around 20-22mbps.
Currently routing with a WRT1200AC Router with both 2.4 and 5ghz bands enabled.
I am aware the Nexus 6 supports 802.11ac; therefore I connected to my 5ghz band network. The nexus shows i'm getting a solid 360mbps connection to the router. However when doing a SpeedTest it caps at 20-22mbps (I should be getting around 105mbps). I suspect no issue with the router as I tested with a 802.11ac supported laptop and was screaming past my 105mbps speed. Based off some google searches I found that possible causes were maybe some power saving features, those have been turned off.
Troubleshooting I have done:
- Moved my 5ghz band to different channels
- Tried different 5ghz channel widths
- Tested speed on 2.4ghz band (Same Results)
- Tested Another Nexus 6 (I tried running a speedtest with a family members N6 running pure stock rom/unrooted and same results as with my Custom Rom'd N6)
- Disabled Carrier Radio leaving only wifi on.
- Reboot Phone, Router, toggled wifi Off and on.
Any other suggestions? It would be pretty disappointing of Google / Motorola if this was the result of hardware capabilities.
Select a different server on Speed Test.
not seeing that issue here...
graydiggy said:
Select a different server on Speed Test.
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Tried a couple different servers, same outcome
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not seeing that issue here...
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OK thanks for looking!
hmmmm
Are you kidding me right now?
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Are you kidding me right now?
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I think that is your device... Mine works both 2.4 and 5 ghz just fine.
S20 FE has WiFi 6 support, so not only it does 5Ghz, it supports everything between 1 and 6 GHz range as well.
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it supports everything between 1 and 6 GHz range as well.
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Uhhh..No.
Wifi 6 on this phone is still only 2.4ghz and 5ghz.
Wifi 6E adds support for 6ghz.
See https://www.techspot.com/news/83483-wi-fi-alliance-introduces-new-wi-fi-6e.html
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I think that is your device... Mine works both 2.4 and 5 ghz just fine.
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+1,
@Trashking
I think its WF6 which you might be referring too? which is still a relatively new standard.
Ok... For some reason my 5Ghz at home wasn't showing up (for a couple days)
Then now it just showed up as an option.
Weird.
After looking around online, there were some rumors that the screen refresh rate set to 120Hz might interfere with the 5Ghz wifi. For anyone else looking, that setting had nothing to do with my issue.
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I think that is your device... Mine works both 2.4 and 5 ghz just fine.
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U have to set ur 5GHZ wifi to channel 155 (for my router there was no 155, i chose 157 instead) in order for ur s20 FE to find it. then u will be able to see the "SSD" of ur 5GHZ wifi in "Available networks" under the wifi settings tab. My router supports both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz so put different names for both and after selecting the channle i was able to see the 5Ghz one!
I discovered it when I saw a 5Ghz wifi with 155ch visible with an app called wifi analyzer (under the "Access points" tab). Then i changed my channel to that and Voila! there it is. Also, sometimes i couldn't find my 5Ghz wifi in the settings. In that case i used the same app to find my wifi under the "Access Points" tab and double click on it, then it would give me an option "Connect?"
Hope this helps y'all!
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Ok... For some reason my 5Ghz at home wasn't showing up (for a couple days)
Then now it just showed up as an option.
Weird.
After looking around online, there were some rumors that the screen refresh rate set to 120Hz might interfere with the 5Ghz wifi. For anyone else looking, that setting had nothing to do with my issue.
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yeah thats becos of the channel keeps on changing. set the channel to 155 or anything else closest to 155!
I have a brand new Asus GTAXE11000 router and my s21 just refuses to go past 350mps on 6e and 6. Is anyone seeing speeds past this on there phones or is the phone limiting to 350, I am literally a foot away from the router when testing.
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I have a brand new Asus GTAXE11000 router and my s21 just refuses to go past 350mps on 6e and 6. Is anyone seeing speeds past this on there phones or is the phone limiting to 350, I am literally a foot away from the router when testing.
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I was going to suggest you go to snbforums but I see you are already there. Great site to go to and I read through the whole thread. Hope your problems get fixed (I have a mere RT-AC86U) but the router market has shown continually over the years that it treats its purchasers of new models as beta testers. Edit: By the way, My internet connection is an over-provisioned 400/50 and I get 450/55 which is the same as the ethernet connection from the desktop.
I don't have 6e, but I'm getting better speeds on my new WiFi 6 RT-AX68 than I'm seeing on my old WiFi 5 RT-AC68, and I have the AX set to a lower bandwidth (40Mhz vs 80Mhz). The 436 result is the WiFi 6 router. That is the max of my internet connection.
I'm on 6 and my wifi speeds are about as maxed out as my 400 MB service will theoretically push through. I'm on Asus.
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I don't have 6e, but I'm getting better speeds on my new WiFi 6 RT-AX68 than I'm seeing on my old WiFi 5 RT-AC68, and I have the AX set to a lower bandwidth (40Mhz vs 80Mhz). The 436 result is the WiFi 6 router. That is the max of my internet connection.
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Fixed the issue with a network reset on the phone now seeing 1gig download on 6e!!
I have the RT-AX88 set up in a mesh network across my house. Speed was an issue when I first got them installed, but slowly over the years with firmware updates they disappeared. Another thing I have set up in the router settings is to reboot the router every morning at 3AM, that seemed to clear up a lot of issues for me as well.
Well the issue has come back it is no longer fast and needs another reset
edit: the culprit was adguard, updating to the nightly build fixed the issue.
Waiting for prices to go down before jumping from 6 to 6e since it will only benefit my s21. But good to know about real life performance and things to look out for!
I have the same router but my phone just doesn't seem to find the 6GHz SSID, is it possible it's deactivated in my country? (Argentina, SM-G998B). I might be the first one around here to have a 6E router, so it's hard to figure out!