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Could anybody post some sample photos from the kaiser camera at maximum quality settings?, maximum resolution, best jpeg compression...
thanks!

pepeto2001 said:
Could anybody post some sample photos from the kaiser camera at maximum quality settings?, maximum resolution, best jpeg compression...
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http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/

eva_d said:
http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/
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Very good quality.

eva_d said:
http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/
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They are not bad at all. Colors seem a little faded though. Oh well, it's a cellphone!

eva_d said:
http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/
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Eva_d, the new photos are better than the initial ones (the ones yo uploaded to modaco forum), could you try a macro photo?, or some photos with the camera holded firmly to very near objects?, and a recorded video?
Thank youuu very much!!!!

pepeto2001 said:
Eva_d, the new photos are better than the initial ones (the ones yo uploaded to modaco forum), could you try a macro photo?, or some photos with the camera holded firmly to very near objects?, and a recorded video?
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Macro pics just uploaded (note: adjusted white balance). IMHO they are pretty good! Video - don't have yet, maybe tomorrow.

eva_d said:
Macro pics just uploaded (note: adjusted white balance). IMHO they are pretty good! Video - don't have yet, maybe tomorrow.
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That macro pics are very good, I'm beginning to think that the initial photos that werent as good as paul(modaco) samples was because of not holding the camera firmly until photo was done... isnt it?... I'm talking about imag0005, imag0006...

Nice pictures and good quality (focus/resolution).
A scan of a letter would be a other good indicator for the macro function (focus/resolution).
Maybe you can take one more photo of e.g. an advertising letter
or of a journal/magazine with text?
Thanks!

Eva_d, I've seen in the photos you also have a nokia with the keyboard "always visible", do you feel this kind of keyboard (always on) to be better than on the tytn that you must "expand" it all the time?

pepeto2001 said:
Eva_d, I've seen in the photos you also have a nokia with the keyboard "always visible", do you feel this kind of keyboard (always on) to be better than on the tytn that you must "expand" it all the time?
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I must say that kind of keyboard is really convenient, I was using Nokia E61 for almost 2 months as a primary phone, and actually I liked it. But I'm back on board with WM platform.
Btw. I've uploaded example video - sorry for rotation, I did it from a mobile holder in my car. I've also uploaded close-up of texts, as requested - a little blurry tough, I should have done them from more distance.

the video looks really good... the macro shots... maybe there wasnt enought light, this phone cameras have a big shutter lag, this is the time since you press de button and the photo is really done, then, it is really important to hold steady the "camera" till the photo is on screen..
Thanks for your photos again!!

Is 320x240 the highest resolution?

Here some of my "masterpieces"
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great photos, they look very good!!!, any photo with faces?, in a crowded street or something similar..

eva_d said:
Macro pics just uploaded (note: adjusted white balance). IMHO they are pretty good! Video - don't have yet, maybe tomorrow.
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Quite impressive for a cameraphone. I can't believe what I'm seeing actually.
Although http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/IMAG0039.jpg shows that the debayering algorithm used by the phone is CRAP. "maze" patterns like those seen in the sky are a known issue with the simpler interpolation algorithms. Has anyone created a camera app for HTC phones that can save raw sensor data to be given to an application such as dcraw?

pepeto2001 said:
Eva_d, I've seen in the photos you also have a nokia with the keyboard "always visible", do you feel this kind of keyboard (always on) to be better than on the tytn that you must "expand" it all the time?
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The slide-out keyboard has major form factor advantages (phone is smaller and keys are larger), but there are plenty of times I miss my Treo 650's non-slideout "always-there" keyboard, especially when dialing.
Palm has stagnated a lot, but the one thing where they are way ahead is in terms of "non-stylus" operation. Strange that there is a Smartphone Edition of Windows Mobile but many of its improvements are not in the version for phones with a touchscreen.

Entropy512 said:
Quite impressive for a cameraphone. I can't believe what I'm seeing actually.
Although http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/IMAG0039.jpg shows that the debayering algorithm used by the phone is CRAP. "maze" patterns like those seen in the sky are a known issue with the simpler interpolation algorithms. Has anyone created a camera app for HTC phones that can save raw sensor data to be given to an application such as dcraw?
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Sadly coolcamera doesn't work with Kaiser for some reason.
http://www.ateksoft.com/features.html
I was usually getting better pictures with coolcamera on any HTC phone.

This is a Sample Photo:
Enjoy
Nadavi

wow!, last photos are very good, they show the quality of the camera!!

One more. I did tweaked parameters a bit.

Quick question. Please read :X

Ok, So the camera's 3.2 mega pixel and the video recorder records pretty low res.
Would it be possible to edit the recorder so that it can record higher res/better quality?

Or is there any apps or console commands to change this

Unfortunatly the camera is very poor and nothing will fix it. Thats all there is too it.

Ok, Well that didn't answer my question.
Any the camera isn't poor it works great, Its a bit crappy in low light but still it looks awesome and better then a 5mp camera phone from samsung.

Frito37 said:
Ok, Well that didn't answer my question.
Any the camera isn't poor it works great, Its a bit crappy in low light but still it looks awesome and better then a 5mp camera phone from samsung.
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I actually have to agree with this as I've had the G600 and that camera SUCKED no matter what PhoneArena says. I noticed i would only use the G1 for pictures so i got rid of the 600

I took a picture of my eye and then shooped the hell outta it. (I added alot of the spots and wrinkles :X)
This is a resized/croped version, Hell you can see the g1 reflection in my eye.
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Its a nice camera!

Anyone? I still would like this answered

nice fake :-D

your question was answered in post 3 but ill repeat it for you.
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Unfortunatly the camera is very poor and nothing will fix it. Thats all there is too it.
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Ok you must not be able to read.
I'm not asking about quality of the camera.
Im asking if its at all possible to make video RECORDING better or higher res.
And what do you mean by nice fake?
If ur implying the pictures fake, Its not at all fake and was taken by my g1.

It depends alot on bandwidth of memory in the device. I dont know if it is possible right now to make a better/higer quality video recorder. If Google creates API's that take advantage of the full potential of the graphics chips we may get a better camcorder app.

I updated to hero and it seems to have a bit better video recording
but thats because of the codec it uses.

xsnipuhx said:
your question was answered in post 3 but ill repeat it for you.
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Seriously, read the freaking thread before saying something stupid.
As for the question, I'm sure a developer could create a new app for higher resolution video recorder because it has been done on other devices. Try requesting it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446769

just2good4u3434 said:
Seriously, read the freaking thread before saying something stupid.
As for the question, I'm sure a developer could create a new app for higher resolution video recorder because it has been done on other devices. Try requesting it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446769
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Thanks.
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No, and the reason is:
A still camera has a longer exposure time and can dedicate more light overtime for each picture. A video has to a expose an image 30 times a second, so in order to expose properly the camera must take many pixels from the ccd and group them together as 1 pixel reducing image size for video. (I could be done by reducing FPS, but that will only go so far.)
And there is also issues with video format standards and the G1 ability to play back video to consider as well.

Heck, even my Canon 5D Mark II can only record video at 1/10th of the resolution it captures still images at. It does video at 1920x1080 or 2,073,600 pixels, whereas still images are captured at 5616x3744 or 21,026,304 pixels.
I think people expect far too much from a phone that has a camera that probably cost $15 to manufacture (the camera part - not the whole phone).

No I dont exspect it to do better i just wondering if it could.

Htc hd2 front camera

Did anyone ever think about installing/making this possible? Like with a spare Evo front camera or something? Just a thought. I'm not even sure if it's possible. But if it was I would be interested.

LOL: it would be impossible since no hardware support for front cam, the sensor on top left is a photo sensor which is used for Brightness adjustment and proximity measurement

I have 2 phone's with front cam and i think i have used them twice.
When do you need a front cam ?
Do you video call with your girlfriend.
No. i do not use it, and i do not miss it on the HTC HD2

I know about the proximity sensor and stuff. And I do video chat. And couldn't someone make software to run it. It would be interesting. Maybe put it on the right side...
No need for the hostility either. Just a thought.

maybe someone will mod a USB laptop camera and gorilla glue it to the front?

DrewMullen said:
maybe someone will mod a USB laptop camera and gorilla glue it to the front?
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lol
I'm gonna install a Core i7 into mine - it's time for the upgradings
(upgrade spelled wrong intentionally)

I think it's impossible. Use mirror.

i do not miss a front camera at all

now that skype supports video call. Front camera on skype would be a dream for me on hd2

it would be nice, but most likely impossible

So where are you going to solder that camera to if you manage to drill the plastic part of the center frame? I don't see any room on the motherboard...

in fact there has a most simple (and cheapest ) way to get a "front cam function" with your HD2, all you need to do is to find a small vanity mirror like this:
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or this:
then open it in 90° angle and put this mirror behind of your hd2, in front of camera. now you can launch your camera app and adjust the mirror to the best position to show your face in app.
Done!
it's so easy! isn't it? the only bug is your face is inverse in app (if you are graduated from school you should know why), but who care! video talk is just for fun for most people! so you want it, you get it!
PS: you still need use a app which support not just front cam but also main cam, to do this. it's the only limitation my dud.

einstein is here

ok. someone has made a more "beautiful" mirror.
here's the link:
http://www.ciccaresedesign.com/?page_id=46
I think it will cost a little more than my "cheapest" way, but it's still a nice choice. people always like getting more choices, so here you are.

poiuyasdfg said:
ok. someone has made a more "beautiful" mirror.
here's the link:
http://www.ciccaresedesign.com/?page_id=46
I think it will cost a little more than my "cheapest" way, but it's still a nice choice. people always like getting more choices, so here you are.
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Too bad its only a prototype. i would get it.

Wow you people have wayyyy too much free time

Haha good find
Sent from my HTC HD2

Is this thing for sale or only the whole project? I would buy one of this things..
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yugoport said:
Is this thing for sale or only the whole project? I would buy one of this things..
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The whole idea is for sale for manufacturing. If this happens I'm gonna get my hands on one of these.

Very good invention. But i rather buy something it had built in, no fall out and all way there when i need it.

Large capacity MP3 player >150GB

My 160GB Ipod Classic has finally died T_T The battery's not holding a charge at all, I'm thinking of getting it repaired but I'm worried something else'll fail shortly as it's had heavy use. I've been researching alternatives but all the threads etc I could find are a few years old, so what's the situation these days, are there any decent/inexpensive MP3 players with at least 150GB of storage out there? Any sort of mini hard drives with screens or anything? Or is the ipod classic still my best bet? Cheers

Hey I just bought one wid 360gb storage
U wanna buy it
Send a letter on my home address
Coz I don't rply to pm's n email's
sent using repencis 3.5 wid a2sd
press thnxxx

alkesh95 said:
Hey I just bought one wid 360gb storage
U wanna buy it
Send a letter on my home address
Coz I don't rply to pm's n email's
sent using repencis 3.5 wid a2sd
press thnxxx
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sorry mate i don't really understand what you're saying - 360GB sounds perfect though, what's the make/model?

alkesh95 said:
Hey I just bought one wid 360gb storage
U wanna buy it
Send a letter on my home address
Coz I don't rply to pm's n email's
sent using repencis 3.5 wid a2sd
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Obvious troll is obvious.

If you don't care about bulk archos has some massive pmps. I have a 4.8 in 250 gb but I can't use it for anything other than in my car just because its so large.

Cheers, good shout - what do you think of the Archos 48?

It's alright. Nothing special (and the resistive screen sucks after being spoiled by capacitive screens), charging (through a proprietary cable) is slow and the GUI sucks, but you can't beat the price for the capacity (I got my 250gb for like 170 a year ago).
I should add that the battery is fairly long lasting from a full charge and that in order to play movies and certain file formats (you'll be fine with mp3s) you have to buy format packs (which I find to be an obnoxious and money hungry practice that Archos should be ashamed of).

063_XOBX said:
It's alright. Nothing special (and the resistive screen sucks after being spoiled by capacitive screens), charging (through a proprietary cable) is slow and the GUI sucks, but you can't beat the price for the capacity (I got my 250gb for like 170 a year ago).
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Yeah 500GB for £100, seriously tempted - £26 (independent site) to repair my 160GB iPod but like I said, something else could just fail as it has received heavy use. Had a look and it doesn't look like there are any ROMs for the 48, would be nice to pump it at least up to froyo... from the dimensions the 48 doesn't look too bulky, still pocketable?

Pocketable-maybe, but the weight is a pretty big factor. Not to mention that it's almost an inch thick (doesn't sound that bad until you have it right in front of you. I can post pictures for comparison to my Xoom or Nexus S if you're familiar with either.

063_XOBX said:
Pocketable-maybe, but the weight is a pretty big factor. Not to mention that it's almost an inch thick (doesn't sound that bad until you have it right in front of you. I can post pictures for comparison to my Xoom or Nexus S if you're familiar with either.
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I'm not 100% but I can guess what the nexus is like - pictures would be appreciated buddy!

Alright, I had to take the pictures with my Xoom so the size is a bit wonky but here you go.
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Cheers, don't seem to be loading though?
*EDIT* Also is there a model (that's similar in price/storage space) that you'd recommend over the 48?

crimsonnight said:
Cheers, don't seem to be loading though?
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If you're on mobile it might take a while (they're in UXGA resolution).

063_XOBX said:
If you're on mobile it might take a while (they're in UXGA resolution).
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Nah on a PC - tried chrome and IE

Let me try linking you to the images directly
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063_XOBX said:
Let me try linking you to the images directly
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Cheers, I see what you mean about the thickness... doesn't look much thicker than my classic though thinking about it? Guess the speaker on it's crap.
Has anyone come across any custom ROMs for the 48?

Asus Nexus 7 camera versus iPad 3 frontal iSight photos, what do you think?

Hi community this is my first thread open, sorry for my quite bad english but I'm not american ..
I would propose you 6 shots take by me: 3 by the my Asus Nexus 7 camera with Modaco app and 3 takets by my iPad 3 and know what you think!
Let's start!
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I have come to the conclusion that....
They're both only good for video conferencing.

veeman said:
I have come to the conclusion that....
They're both only good for video conferencing.
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You missed the fact that they both suck
Why are the ipad pictures a quarter the size? Does it have a significantly lower resolution or something??

irlanda3 said:
Hi community this is my first thread open, sorry for my quite bad english but I'm not american ..
I would propose you 6 shots take by me: 3 by the my Asus Nexus 7 camera with Modaco app and 3 takets by my iPad 3 and know what you think!
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I agree with markj338. The quality of the pictures from both cameras seems relatively poor, but that is to be expected. It was hard for me to tell if either was better but I would lean toward the N7. (I'm a little biased. What can I say?)
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You missed the fact that they both suck
Why are the ipad pictures a quarter the size? Does it have a significantly lower resolution or something??
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The pictures are almost the same size when I'm viewing them. I don't know why the iPad pictures are small for you.
Sent from my Paranoid Nexus 7

The iPad pictures are smaller for me also. And I also agree the camera is only good for conferencing. N7 does look a little better to me as well.

Why iPad 3 photos are smaller?
iPad 3 has frontal VGA Camera at 1.3 MP and pictures are at resolution 480*640p (send via mail and also imported by iPhoto it's same quality) while N7 camera is at 1.2 MP but pictures are at 1280*800p. So in forum you can see them in differently size.
Flash is not a problem, both haven't that.

Errm they are only webcams.....
What did you expect?
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

irlanda3 said:
Hi community this is my first thread open, sorry for my quite bad english but I'm not american ..
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Uder is right, but you do need to scrub up on your Geography.

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No but you are ****ing ignorant.
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Hey hey theres no need for that...
Back to the ACTUAL disscussion the N7 blows the iSight out of the water even for a 1.2mpx ffc that isnt supposed to be taking pictures in the first place it does a relatively good job . Thanks for comparison.

You should have resized the Nexus 7 images to the same as the iPad 3 for a fairer comparison. :good:

They look pretty similar to me. Though the camera isn't really meant for taking shots like these, so the test doesn't say much, they're really for face-to-face chatting.

The iPads color seemed washed out
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irlanda3 said:
Why iPad 3 photos are smaller?
iPad 3 has frontal VGA Camera at 1.3 MP and pictures are at resolution 480*640p (send via mail and also imported by iPhoto it's same quality) while N7 camera is at 1.2 MP but pictures are at 1280*800p. So in forum you can see them in differently size.
Flash is not a problem, both haven't that.
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If you're running a comparison, the way the photos are presented matters a helluva lot.
Since this is annoying the hell out of me, I've fixed this for you.

Ok sir, no problems.
The differents sizes was another point to discuss, N7 photos resized at 640*480 can remove something in quality but ok