Wadda you prefer? To pay for software or To not pay for software?
if I see that work has been done, and whoever released it is going to loose money, then no, I buy it (ie, some dude(s) that wrote whatever like Maimichs (?) little button app). If I feel that they are evil and ripping people off anyway, then damn right I dl it and distribute it! Billy is evil. You can't tell me that his company actually deserved that much money???? 400$ for1 copoy of XP Pro? I don't think so. We all know those pragrammers are making $40 k a year, and billy made $400 mil off thier work. Not to mention that MS will see something they like, steal it, and if being sued is a real threat, buy the company out anyway.
Whatever.....
i like my software like i like my beers free and frosty
but support and such will always be better with software you pay for i guess
pay or not
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Honest..... no I'd rather not pay, I seach high and low for free software.
I only pay when I have no choice or if someone else has bought some I'll give them something so I can use thiers.
Thank god for people who like to dabble and program themselves, the joy of free spirited software and the free mind.
ah those were the days two bloody years ago :-( when this site was just a few of us!! look at it now my have u grown!!!
That's a real tough question! :shock:
Of course I would prefer no to pay for software, I mean who doesn't like free stuff. And if it's the OS, without which your expansive computer with all the latest twists is nothing more than a box with a blinking light then ever more so.
Yes I know there is Linux, but once you get hooked on M$ crap it's hard to quit.
On the other hand I am a programmer working for a small company so my livelihood depends on people buying our stuff.
So I prefer to go fined something freeware, do without or if push comes to shove to pay.
Oh, and don't think that just because I am a programmer I can write whatever I want for my self. It takes time and effort to code anything descent (strange it takes this long to get a windows version out ) and no one has the time to reinvent the wheel.
If there is an open source program equivalent, I will normally use that. But in the case of multi thousand dollar program suites like autodesk and maya, eh, no sir.
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Please bear with me as I convert my thoughts into words.
We all know that symbiotic relationships work. One benefits from the other and the other benefits from the first. Taking the concept from the Driver Bounty thread, I've started to think that it would be very useful an "open air market". No, no, no...that doesn't sound right. Ok, let me use an example.
I think that S2U2 is great, but I think whats better is to have your own specialized custom unlock signature. For example, I would writing my name in cursive and the phone unlocks. Thats hell of a lot nicer than just sliding an icon. I'm willing to pay a maximum of 20 dollars to any one who makes this.
20 bucks. I can already imagine a developer thinking that its not worth their time. However, lets suppose 10 other people are interested in this app and would dish out $20 each, with 10 other people giving $10, and 20 people giving $5. Thats $400. That 400 dollars might be the threshold for a person to "take the challenge" or want to start working on that program.
Driver Bounty thread is a perfect example. Now this is taking that idea and applying to apps.
My thought is that people begin to pour our their ideas. And as ideas are generated, the reasonable ones, the feasable ones, and the worth while ones are selected. (Maybe with a poll?) And once agreed upon a certain app, those people interested would begin to put money in an "XDA Account". This "XDA Account" would just collect money and not withdraw money from peoples accounts until this threshold is met. Meaning I put my money down and it would not be withdrawn from my bank account until a person decides to create the app that is wanted. Once the app is made, he or she can walk off with the money and we can walk off with the app.
This is pretty much the exact same thing from driver bounty thread just applied to applications that people want/are thinking about.
Here are the benefits as I see it:
1. This would generate more people wanting to work on apps and not just relying on donations.
2. This would give the people want they want.
Happy Developers = Happy Users.
Now, lets suppose that my S2U2 idea (probably already been thought of before, in fact I'm sure it has) will catch on. Lets say that those certain people mentioned above would put their money down. Well, maybe a deal would be made. Those people who put their money down would get the app first, and would get updates every once in a while. Where as those who did not put their money down, who still want the app, don't get to reap the benefits.
This way I think we can bring more developers in and generate more applications. But more importantly, those guys who are working hard on these apps would be guaranteed some money, rather than waiting for donations.
Not that I'm against donations, its great! But I think this is also a good idea.
Now, this is all just in my head. I, in no way, would benefit from this as a user other than the fact that I could contribute to coming up with ideas for applications. This is just an idea that would make us all happy.
So what do you guys think? Is this a stupid idea? Has it been done before? Is it already being done and I'm just a moron for not seeing it? Or is this a good idea?
I look forward to seeing your feedback.
Feel free to be mean if this has been mentioned before. I can take it
SEE THIS: http://www.pocketpcaddict.com/forum...yet to see one, but I've never looked either)
Mods - please forgive if this thread is misplaced!
I've gotten at G1 (Dream) and no longer have any use for this AT&T Tilt. I would sell it on Craigslist or eBay, but frankly I have no malice toward the world, and therefore will not unleash this drastic POS on some unsuspecting fool like me.
Not looking for much - I figure there is a developer here who would be happy to relieve me of it, along with two batteries and a docking station for a couple hundred bucks (I dunno?) If I'm asking too much, I apologize. It's definitely not mint, it's been beat up a bit, but is in excellent working order. The software has no issues that I'm aware of. I refuse to sell it for market price because I feel it's an injustice to do so - AT&T should have paid ME to use this stupid pofc, but I do want to get rid of it.
I'm in SoCal, local pick up in exchange for cash is preferred, would also prefer to give it to a developer who will put it to good use as a platform for testing and developing on WM6 or whatever you like. If nobody wants it, you're welcome to join me for an "Office Space" moment whilst I toss it into the middle of PCH and watch cars and heavy trucks smash it to bits. Whatever is left (I would never litter!) will be somehow otherwise consumed appropriately (perhaps a vat of acid?) and summarily disposed of.
Thank you for your interest; again, should this thread be misplaced, I apologize - instruct and I will comply kindly!
Thank you!
OH - and a BIG shout out to everyone here that helped me try to live with this thing for a few months... it was a few months too long, but I appreciate your valiant efforts nonetheless - you certainly made this thing a LOT less bad! THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HELP!
To paraphrase the Bard...
The dude doth protest too much, methinks
Nah - it's astounding the difference between a device that works as it should and one that doesn't. WM6 is, imho, complete garbage. And my sentiments were completely reinforced as soon as I tried Android. The Dream just does what it's supposed to as a mobile phone - for instance - I CAN DIAL. It's nice, you know?
Anybody want this thing?
I am interestedin your tilt, I will send you a PM as well to see if we can come to an agreement.
delaner said:
The Dream just does what it's supposed to as a mobile phone - for instance - I CAN DIAL. It's nice, you know?
Anybody want this thing?
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I've only had my Tilt for two weeks, so forgive my ignorance, but I am fully able to dial on my phone (quite easily, I might add!). Does my phone do something unusual that other Tilt models don't do?
Just like in the PC and laptop world, Windows boxes are typically awful "out of the box". With knowledge, customization, and tweaking, though, most users should be able to find a setup that suits them. Obviously, for people looking for something that "just works" out of the box, the Apple and G1 products are great.
Best of luck with your new phone, and here's hoping your Tilt finds a good home.
- DDB
Yes, you developers need to eat!
Yes, you should be paid to work!
But PLEASE think about how much you are charging. What exactly are you charging X amount for?
If you are not careful, you will do nothing but promote the Piracy of applications. I don't think you would find that acceptable, if everyone stole your work. Please just remember, that you are working on an OPEN SOURCE device. So when you take a bunch of files, do minor editing, and slap 2.99 on it, it is not worth it.
PLEASE use your brain for more then just code. THINK about the people that don't code, and think - are they going to spend $100-300 to buy all the apps for their phones? If they don't think they are getting the value, people WILL steal. Just look at the music industry!
THIS does not mean that you should just make everything free. This does mean that if you spent 10 min's making a new search bar widget (dxTop) that you probably shouldn't charge for it.
If I am wrong, please tell me, and tell me why.
Well, since you have 24 hours to return them, what's the problem?
I mean, anything under $3,- who cares? That's less than a coffee at Starbucks, when all is said and done.
I'm a video game engineer and web developer, and I charge poeople around $20/hour for my services, so if someone spends 15 minutes building an app to better your uses, then $3 I can understand. Now, I don't think a lot of the apps are worth the money because it really isnt THAT much work to do, and when you had no problem offering it for free, to now charge? Donating, thats no problem. But you shouldn't force those to buy it. Programs like BetterCut, we not available prior to paid app releases, and apposed to anycut, has multiple new and truley great features that I will in a heart beat pay $3.00.
Spending the money isn't the problem for me, $10 on an app, who cares. It's only 10 bucks. However, I just don't like the way developers went about making paying for apps a neccessity, and turning their old versions into trials. And then starting to restrict features.
When its all said and done I mean, guess there isn't much I can do but *****. If I want the app I'll buy it, I've already got 15-20 apps I've paid for so far because I find them to be necessities worth my cash. It's just stupid how it goes down.
I don't mind for people charging for apps. I haven't found the need to buy any apps yet because I haven't seen an app that interests me enough to buy it. There are a lot of apps out there and a bunch of them are getting crap reviews. I think the market just needs some time to find out what prices work and what don't. And it seems like when a good app concept comes out, another dev makes a few version.
I totally agree with you q426669,they are releasing a bunch of ****ty apps,sorry about the ****ty part....and I know you guys are busy and it´s your time.....etc....etc..When I first listened about the paid apps I was very excited thinking....cool we´re gonna start seeing nice apps,but as of now I am getting tired of stupid joke apps,flashlights etc....I don´t even feel like trying any app out,and yes I am willing to pay like I used to do with Windows Mobile.
Gonna be real interesting with the Blackberry App Store.....their lowest price starts at $3.
Anyone who buys a paid wallpaper/ringtone app deserves what they get lol. They are all out there if people search for them. I cant understand for the life of me why people have bought the paid flashlight app but ok. Developers take the time to make them so I will pay for it if its something I really want, no problem. I agree though that the apps and games coming out are pretty lame but i just ignore them. People whining about a .99 cent app are ridiculous to me, how much money do you waste on fast food and other stuff you don't need? Take that 5 bucks for your burger king and get a few cool games or apps to deck out your phone! As far as piracy of stuff its gonna happen no matter how much people charge, nothing anyone can do about it. I think making demo versions though will help cut piracy down a little.
I am a hardware support technician at my job. My boss wants to take the tablet (an iPad) I need to support the products and applications we create and give it to someone else in the company that needs it to demo our applications and hardware. I don't care about the tablet, as I care about needing it for custom application and product training, diagnostics, application and functionality testing. The problem, even though his budget paid for the item, is that I can't do my job without it and he now gets to give me grief for not being able to do my job regardless of his taking the equipment away. If these applications were written for Windows, I couldn't care less, but they were specifically written for the iPad (Android will come in phase 3 of the project), and specifically work with Apple's proprietary Bluetooth protocols.
He claims that he can't afford to purchase more equipment, and doesn't take the heat when I can't do my job which is suppose to reflect upon him when I cannot. I need to be able to argue the point to prevent him from doing this and would like some ideas. I have always had to be careful what to say to him because he has gone to his boss and used him as muscle to come into my office and try to intimidate me into compliance in the past. And though I'm working on leaving this company, I still need to do my job, keep the peace, and manage things as effectively as possible untl that times comes. Can't pay for life without a job, and they're too hard to come by these days.
Looking for advice.
Standupdad
PS Not on XDA, but I'm going to post this on a couple of other sites where I am a member as it is very important to me. So please excuse me if you see this somewhere else, or I delay in getting back to post replies. Newborns, painting the house, Boy Scouts, chasing a two year old that unlocks the front door and darts out to the neighbors, naked, and too much to list here, I may be somewhat slow to respond.
Be like "hey boss i need the equipment and its gotten pretty hard to do and there's some stuff that ain't fully developed and can cause some damage." I say you work harder and prove to him you can do the job and need the equipment at all times.
ya'll wish me luck
SNATCH AND RUN YO!
ask him when you can expect it back.
Try buying your own? <--------- Last resort
If their department paid for it then they get to have it when they want it. That is how every company I have ever worked at operates. If it is really essential and your job cannot be done without it, then you should tell your boss that and get your department to purchase one. In writing of course, no verbals on this type of stuff.
Tell him you need his advice and ask him how to do your job effectively without it. He either tells you how, in which case you've not got anything to complain about, or he admits that you can't. Either way you win.
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ask him when you can expect it back.
Try buying your own? <--------- Last resort
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It will be 2 to 3 weeks. As for buying one, don't have the extra $$$
mf2112 said:
If their department paid for it then they get to have it when they want it. That is how every company I have ever worked at operates. If it is really essential and your job cannot be done without it, then you should tell your boss that and get your department to purchase one. In writing of course, no verbals on this type of stuff.
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True, they can do what they want, but it counts against my productivity and he doesn't care.
Archer said:
Tell him you need his advice and ask him how to do your job effectively without it. He either tells you how, in which case you've not got anything to complain about, or he admits that you can't. Either way you win.
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I will be asking him this in my initial email to him tomorrow so that I can have a documented response.
I've been fortunate enough to have parents who have been able to make it possible for me to not have to work. I've never had a job before, but I'm really interested and I would like to get working somewhere! I am just finishing high school, and I am starting College after summer, I have an entire summer free to work! But where o:
Well first let me mention this. I have a close friend who currently works at Papa Murphy's, he knows there's an open spot for me and I could get a job there no question, according to him. Has anyone here worked at a similar business who could provide me with some insight regarding a Pizza place, or fast food in general? Like it, hate it, or just okay?
Other than that little.. idea, I have nothing else in mind specifically, I'm looking for recommendations! I'm into tech, and while I'm not professional in any one area of tech, I would certainly consider myself more knowledgeable with technology than your average consumer.
Best Buy maybe? Target? A Grocery store?
I have nothing specific in mind, if there's anything you would be willing to share with me, please do! A job you liked, a job you hated, things to look for and things to stay away from, anything! Share me with me your wisdom from experience!
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I've been fortunate enough to have parents who have been able to make it possible for me to not have to work. I've never had a job before, but I'm really interested and I would like to get working somewhere! I am just finishing high school, and I am starting College after summer, I have an entire summer free to work! But where o:
Well first let me mention this. I have a close friend who currently works at Papa Murphy's, he knows there's an open spot for me and I could get a job there no question, according to him. Has anyone here worked at a similar business who could provide me with some insight regarding a Pizza place, or fast food in general? Like it, hate it, or just okay?
Other than that little.. idea, I have nothing else in mind specifically, I'm looking for recommendations! I'm into tech, and while I'm not professional in any one area of tech, I would certainly consider myself more knowledgeable with technology than your average consumer.
Best Buy maybe? Target? A Grocery store?
I have nothing specific in mind, if there's anything you would be willing to share with me, please do! A job you liked, a job you hated, things to look for and things to stay away from, anything! Share me with me your wisdom from experience!
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Things you need to ask yourself before getting a job:
-Do I need or want a job?
-What for?
-Do I have a specific field I'm interested on?
-How much money do I require to survive?
-If need to drive...do I own a car?
-Will I take this job seriously or just need something to kill time?
-Can I do something on my own before I get involved in the corporate world?
-Is there any small shops where I may be able to get training on a specific trade/skill?
After you gather this info, then carry on with what is more convenient to you.
Cheers,
M_T_M said:
Things you need to ask yourself before getting a job:
-Do I need or want a job?
-What for?
-Do I have a specific field I'm interested on?
-How much money do I require to survive?
-If need to drive...do I own a car?
-Will I take this job seriously or just need something to kill time?
-Can I do something on my own before I get involved in the corporate world?
-Is there any small shops where I may be able to get training on a specific trade/skill?
After you gather this info, then carry on with what is more convenient to you.
Cheers,
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Thanks for the reply!
Although my parents pay for my food, education (currently), and other normal expenses, I typically have to come up with my own money for something that isn't necessary, or the occasional "gift".
I want a job for the extra money so I can gain experience, and become more financial independent from my parents. I have a car and I live in a pretty populated city, not a major city, and I know there's tons of work available. I'll certainly take any job seriously, and I truly do enjoy becoming more educated in.. anything really!
I have a car and I do not "need" a job, which I know understand my title may be misleading.. oops, but I certainly want it for reasons more important than just "to kill time" d:
Go to college...or a trade school. Learn to code. Learn to do what you love so someone will love to hire you doing what you love. Do not settle for something just because you need a job. Work hard to do something you enjoying working hard at. If you enjoy tech, learn something in the tech field and search for jobs related to it. In an article written by the Bureau of Labor Statistics in 2013, it was estimated that between 2010 and 2020, jobs in computer systems design and related services "is expected to grow at an average annual rate of 6.1 percent, compared with 3.6 percent for the broad industry category—professional, scientific, and technical services—and 2.9 percent for all industries." You are young and you are interested in one of the most profitable markets currently available. Use that interest to advance your career and your life. It's not enough to just love tech...you have to do your best to learn about the industry surrounding it so you can profit from the advances and secure your future.
Just my two cents.
Start phone repairs. Saying you started you own business at 18 has to be a big plus.
Sent from my Galaxy Note 4........FAKE! Admit it, you thought I had money for a second didn't you?
you can get job online.. but it takes a hardwork and patience to earn money online...
I got one
SynDevOut said:
I got one
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Which one?? Online?
Actually there are online sites which pay you for completing surveys you can get upto $1 per survey in some sites like clixsence.......