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After hard reset, i stopped the auto install of the imate...

hey... after you hard reset an imate pda2k, it will begin to auto install a lot of crap... i simply hit reset at that point. am i really losing much from doing this? or gaining anything? all i can remember that isnt there is the fax app.

nevermind, figured out my question.

so.. do tell? did it break your system?

no it wont break anything - you'll just get the microsoft OS with no operator programs installed.

Yeah, thats exactly what it did. Unfortuanately I've learned I use some of the I-Mate custom apps. (caller id picture, and one or two others) I tried to install them seperate, but it crashed the device. I'm not hurting for space or anything, so I'm not that worried about having them installed.

if you unhide the extROM you can simply install the cabs you want.

best "stolen phone" program?

what do you guys recomend for one of those "stolen phone" programs, and tracking your phone if it ever gets stolen?

SPRITE TERMINATOR or WIMP ..... but the programs are only good as long as you don't hard reset the device..... Once the device Hard reset EVERYTHING GONE

Thanks for the tip

There is always possibility to cook program with your settings inside ROM... so hard reset won't help... but cooking with settings - that's not easy.

_mike_ said:
There is always possibility to cook program with your settings inside ROM... so hard reset won't help... but cooking with settings - that's not easy.
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Now we know that we can cook a program into ROM.. Although i am aware of the fact that there are so many Cooking Guides available here in the forum and that also become a problem for me to choose a best step by step guide for cooking ROM and adding a program into it.... could some one translate this for me....

I use mobile justice. So far haven't had to use it, so I really can't comment on it to much, I did play with it a little and like it.

max621 said:
SPRITE TERMINATOR or WIMP ..... but the programs are only good as long as you don't hard reset the device..... Once the device Hard reset EVERYTHING GONE
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thanks, i did have WIMP on my phone before, then after many rom flashes its gone, ill try the sprite one.

mikeeey said:
thanks, i did have WIMP on my phone before, then after many rom flashes its gone, ill try the sprite one.
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You must try it Mate... since i myself using Terminator and its quite good.. BTW have you tried to cook any of the software into ROM with required phone numbers ?

On a somewhat related note, generally what happens to stolen PDA/Phones?
The reason for this question was that I was looking at "Ultimate Theft Alert v3" after seeing a link in someone's signature. I thought it sounded like a good idea, but I was aware that a hard reset would kill any protection that the program would offer.
So I was wondering what would happen. If the want the data from the phone they would be hoping it wouldn't lock, because if it does you can't get in to get the data easily. If it does lock and the SIM is still in (or it is taken out and not replaced), I assume there is some way to get round it (like auto-run from an SD card and copy off the data) and it won't have dialled home. Once that is done they can ditch the device....
If they do want the device, they will try and use it and, if it has a lock on it, they will have to hard-reset to get it in. If they had used a similar device before, they might hard-reset anyway.
So this means that most likely the device will not get the chance to dial home given most of these types of software don't auto-cook themselves.
If it is cooked into the ROM it would stand a much better chance of being able to dial home, but if it was not automated I would wonder if it was all worth it. By this time your data is safe (I am assuming you encrypted your SD card and the hard reset will have wiped the device ASSUMING the thief didn't manage to get data off while it was locked) and insurance will no doubt get you a new one.
So.... has anyone managed to use this type of software to retrieve their stolen phone?

GPS
Do any of these programs turn on your GPS and let you know the location of your phone as well as sending out an SMS? I thought I heard there are programs out there that do that.

yeah i heard about a program that would that i dont know if the ones they were talking about above do that thouhg. it was cool u send a text message with a code in it to your phone and your phone kicks you back the location of the phone

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Do any of these programs turn on your GPS and let you know the location of your phone as well as sending out an SMS? I thought I heard there are programs out there that do that.
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The one I referred to (Ultimate Theft Alert) claims it. I don't use it, so I don't know how effective it is.

umvagia0 said:
Do any of these programs turn on your GPS and let you know the location of your phone as well as sending out an SMS? I thought I heard there are programs out there that do that.
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As i mentioned before, i am using SPRITE TERMINATOR and i do throughly test it. It do send me the GPS coordinates on the given mobile number and i also try the WIPE command from the other mobile phone for Data deltion and that command successfully delete the whole data including the Storage card... But after the deletion it locked the device..... But for GPS the device must be outside otherwise u have to send the command again....

Upgraded SX66 To WM6 (Helmi): Device Passcode No Longer Works

I'm hoping somebody here can help, because I'd hate to have to get rid of a device that I really love...
Used Helmi's WM6 (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...angel_WM6_Home) to upgrade from WM2003SE and everything was working beautifully!
I was absolutely LOVING the new software until my device just stopped accepting the passcode that I had been using for 2 years. What I don't understand is I had to use the passcode a few times after the upgrade and all was fine. What could have happened for it to suddenly change by itself (because I know it wasn't me)?
Someone at the PocketPCAddicts forum suggested that I locate an original factory ROM to wipe out everything on the device and try again from scratch. I've searched the web looking for such a beast and can't find one (since the manufacturer/carrier no longer support it).
Can someone here help?
Debbie

DebbieNY13 said:
I'm hoping somebody here can help, because I'd hate to have to get rid of a device that I really love...
Used Helmi's WM6 (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...angel_WM6_Home) to upgrade from WM2003SE and everything was working beautifully!
I was absolutely LOVING the new software until my device just stopped accepting the passcode that I had been using for 2 years. What I don't understand is I had to use the passcode a few times after the upgrade and all was fine. What could have happened for it to suddenly change by itself (because I know it wasn't me)?
Someone at the PocketPCAddicts forum suggested that I locate an original factory ROM to wipe out everything on the device and try again from scratch. I've searched the web looking for such a beast and can't find one (since the manufacturer/carrier no longer support it).
Can someone here help?
Debbie
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Just so you know, you are in the wrong thread. There's a whole section for WM6 for Blue Angels...
Anyway, what do you mean a passcode? Passcode for what? Reason i am asking is because I too have a SX66 (have had it for 3 years) and I have never seen it asking for a passcode (and I have flashed the bejesus out of it)
EDIT: the guy from PPCAddicts might be partially right, you may need to reflash your device, but you can do it with WM6. I don't think there is any need for you to go back to 2003

(Sorry about posting here. I thought a BA upgrade thread was the proper place. I apologize.)
It's a passcode that you can set to lock entry to your phone's funtions. Kind of like a parental control feature you would put on your cable box. It's just a simple 4-digit code that I set up when I bought the device and I have never had to change it. I will try to do a master reset again when I get home, since I'm back to using my SX56 for the time being.
Thanks very much for your quick reply. I'm so glad there are forums like this out there.
Debbie

DebbieNY13 said:
(Sorry about posting here. I thought a BA upgrade thread was the proper place. I apologize.)
It's a passcode that you can set to lock entry to your phone's funtions. Kind of like a parental control feature you would put on your cable box. It's just a simple 4-digit code that I set up when I bought the device and I have never had to change it. I will try to do a master reset again when I get home, since I'm back to using my SX56 for the time being.
Thanks very much for your quick reply. I'm so glad there are forums like this out there.
Debbie
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No problem and good luck

Wich ANTI THEFT program is better?

hi guys, I have my precious HTC touch diamond for a week now, and because of its beautifull shine, everyone wants to have one.
That's why i did some searching on the web about anti theft programs, and I found these 3
Ultimate Theft Alert v3
W.I.M.P.
Sprite Terminator
They all look pretty good, but before buying anything (or downloading ) I want to know wich one is best to pick, could you guys help me with that? also keep on mind that the program has to work on a VGA screen
Thanks, Markos Wahid

Tried three of them also and decided to (actually buy) sprite terminator with a coupon disc 50% (forgot where i got it thou), reason to buy:
- support
- price (very cheap!!!)
- easy to use

a program called mobile justice thats free and does the job, if you burn it in to a ROM before you flash the ROM to your device it will resist hardresets as well unlike most programs out there.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mjustice/

not to mention a steel chain with a steel lock, one end at yr diamond, second one around yr neck
jokes aside, ultimate theft alert is the most popular.
i am sorry to see that the diamond in his actual configuration doesn't support the very slim chance that somebody will find it and be willing to return it, i am talking about OWNER INFORMATION!! gone in the invisible "today" screen

I need some advice to burn Ultimate theft alert to a ROM on diamond.
Is this possible?

^probably... check the developer forum..theyd be better at answering that...
i think the guy who makes ultimate theft also posts here...It seems the nicest.. the other alternative is sprite...the middle one doesnt look nice. i dont really know since i never had a wm device. im just saying from what ive read...

I tried to install Theft Alert but the instalation crashes...
Has anyone the same issue?

KukurikU said:
i am sorry to see that the diamond in his actual configuration doesn't support the very slim chance that somebody will find it and be willing to return it, i am talking about OWNER INFORMATION!! gone in the invisible "today" screen
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Settings --> Owner information --> Options --> "When the device is turned on, display: Identification Information"

Sprite terminator requires some additional editing. It says my GPS location is in China somewhere.
Ultimate Theft seems to work alright, but I havent tested it yet with the sims, which I'll do in a few minutes.
I like the ULT 3.5 better.

what i'll like to know is how to burn. the developer section have no guide on actual burning and takes for granted that we're rom cookers so i for one, understand nothing T.T

Baronic said:
what i'll like to know is how to burn. the developer section have no guide on actual burning and takes for granted that we're rom cookers so i for one, understand nothing T.T
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I agree. All these softwares are useless as most people would hard reset the device.... As far as cooking goes, I really want to get into doing this - I just need the 'beginner' tutorial, before the 'hardcore' tutorial..

Even the SPL must be protected against reflashing of the phone then. Is that possible?
So locking the SPL so no new SPL can be flashed either, and new ROM flashing is impossible then.
There are too many smart people who just fix that 'hot' phone with UTA or any program to original. And the thing you want is you phone back.

Riel said:
Even the SPL must be protected against reflashing of the phone then. Is that possible?
So locking the SPL so no new SPL can be flashed either, and new ROM flashing is impossible then.
There are too many smart people who just fix that 'hot' phone with UTA or any program to original. And the thing you want is you phone back.
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Well I do know that HardSPL has overwrite protection and you cannot flash a new SPL after you've installed it. Although there will be a 'downgrade' package soon so you can get back to stock SPL.

I don't understand why there isn't such a flash and/or hard reset protection...it's just very frustrating when you lose the device(like I did once) knowing the next 'owner' could simply hard reset (or flash a new ROM) to use it as his own device. I know, cooking some settings into a ROM solves a little piece, but more and more people are aware of XDA-dev and know about flashing. So you could cook your anti-theft into your ROM, but agianst flashing there is nothing u can do

Well, I thought, it should be possible to lock SPL flashing, by encrypting the bootloader by (my own) password?
On the moment one makes flashing without my password impossible, a antitheft program can be installed in the ROM and running always, even with hard-reset.
One should vind an easy way of providing MY sim card data into that rom prior to flashing.

Hi Folks,
But back to the topic, is there any anti-theft programs that really works in the first place for Diamond? I had tried Star Enforcer (it can't get the current IMSI number), Mobile Justice (it can't send out SMS) and RemoteTracker (can't run... I need to research more on this..).
Cheers.

mobile justice, did you install the certificate? most problems are as a result of that not being done, give me a PM if you want a hand and ill talk you through it, it does work well, but as already been mentioned all it takes for any software is a full flash, if you install many of the apps to the ROM before flashing it you can at least survive a hard reset.

Thanks Dazza,
I had missed installing the certificate.
But now, after some testing, I found out that it was only able to send out SMS unless I select "Disp.MsgBox".
Is this something expected? May be MJ needs to be re-rewritten or recompiled for WM6.1?
I'm aware of the hard reset issue. Am planning for myself to learn how to cook up a ROM, with my details in, to prevent this.
Cheers.

Tried UTA 3.5. and WIMP
Both can send out Text messages to designated telephone no.
But i thought UTA 3.5 could monitor the sms and phone calls going in or out of the phone. but it didnt seem to work. it crashed. and when you inserted a new sim it kept on asking whether i wanted to run the .exe file not very good.
Am testing out WIMP at the moment and seems to be ok.
but not alot of functionality if compared with UTA that is if UTA worked.
That would be a very good idea if you can input it into the ROM. but will you not have to mess with the registry to 'register' the product and keep your data.?

Well,
When I did a hard-reset last week, I observed that the device begins installing some software onto itself, just like it did when I first powered it up. May be we can cook up something into a cook ROM to do something identical? E.g. the settings required for MJ?
But then, I'm a noob at this stage (with a full time job and family). So, I'll have a very long way to go.
Cheers.

[Q] Putting anti-theft app inside ROM?

How much will it be if we want to put one of the anti-theft apps inside the ROM, so that it can survive even the hard-resets?
I know that this need to be custom for each user, which means self cooked ROMs with the software installed, registered and configured for per-user.
It can be made through UC but if the SD is not there upon hard reset then it is useless.
has anybody tried it before? will it be hard to do?

mcbyte_it said:
How much will it be if we want to put one of the anti-theft apps inside the ROM, so that it can survive even the hard-resets?
I know that this need to be custom for each user, which means self cooked ROMs with the software installed, registered and configured for per-user.
It can be made through UC but if the SD is not there upon hard reset then it is useless.
has anybody tried it before? will it be hard to do?
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Daran was offering to cook Sprite Terminator into personalized ROMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448178&highlight=daran
Not sure if he's still doing that, but you could try contacting him.

i search for it too
i find the following program, but withou howto: http://remotetracker.sourceforge.net

I am interested too if its possible. THere are few tutorials to do that but I never been successful in doing it. Hope if someone does that.

i think gpsgate would be god.
It uses imei and (wifi or gprs) . log on the gpsgate page and see where is phone. if its cooked in for YOurself remember to turn off the service after reboot to save battery.
so if the phone will be stolen they will insert ovn card and as soon phone gets wifi or gprs it will send location .
cos if sim card is changed YOu cant send sms to phone.