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OK, been trying to figure out this ROM update hotchpotch for a while now, and while I have some better knowledge, some of it still isn't clear.
Before you say use the search, I have, but as I say, it's all so random and all over the place it's unclear.
OK, so I have an M2000. I am running as follows:
Operator Version 5.12.1.139
ROM Versn 1.12.22 WWE
ROM date 09/27/04
Radio Versn 1.04.00
Protocol Versn 1337.35
ExtROM Versn 1.12.139.WWE
BT v1.0.0 Build 2200
Now looking at what versions are available, this seems pretty old, right.
Now as I understand it, the ExtROM can be updated by unlocking it, replacing the files from the 1.31 archive, re-locking and doing a hard reset - then once it's booted it'll go through the customisation procedure like it normally does, only with the updated ExtROM (which I can customise/cook to what updates I want).
OK, so I understand that much - however...then I have a mismatch between ExtROM and Normal ROM, right?
ROM would be 1.12.22 and the ExtRom would be 1.31.XX yes? Is this a problem?
How do I go about updating the main ROM to 1.31 also? The same goes for radio and bluetooth. I know full well that my bluetooth is well out of date - but there are so many versions, most of which are unhelpfully named. One I see said 1.00.3500, which is what I hear is what I want, but what are all the others about?
Can anyone help put it into plain english for me, without saying "Use the search" or posting a link to wiki?
Thanks.
If you have a look at this thread, it gives you a process you can follow. It is for an older set of updates. But if you have a look on the FTP site and pick full update files with the 1.31 CE rom and 1.06.02 Radio rom, you should be able to follow it through.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=16251&highlight=
OK, i had a look through, and it sorta makes more sense, but the problem is the updates are so different I don't get it :S
For example, the file names on the ftp are so cryptic it doesn't help.
I have downloaded 1.33.10WWE.rar which is apparently a CE ROM from the SX66....
...however, I am aware the SX66 doesn't have a camera - does this matter?
Furthermore, in the bat file, there was a reference to an ms_.nbf file - I cant find out what this is. Do I need it?
I'm assuming nk_.nbf is the ROM itself.
Also, with regards to the radio ROM I have downloaded Radio 1.06.02 Edited for German Tmobile MDAIII.rar
What does editing it for German T-Mobile do? Does this have an effect?
Basically I could probably figure it out if everything had standard names. So far I don't think I've seen any naming conventions for the files, so I'm at a loss as to what I need.
OK, just found a useful page here:
http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=154
that managed to explain it a bit better.
So, it seems that the ms_.nbf is essentially the extrom, yes?
So how can I take the ExtROM Orange_UK_SPVM2000_Ext_ROM_131124.zip
and use it as an ms_.nbf?
or have I got it all wrong?
I have just got that new O2 one that was released recently, but I don't want O2 stuff plastered all over my phone...
OK, as a starting point I just tried to update the radio rom to 1.06.02.
After getting a little stuck I managed it ok, and it seems to be working fine....
Now all I need help with is figuring out how to get the other 2 bits sorted. i'm not too worried about the nk file (although it would appear it needs a password, which I'm unsure where to obtain)
but this ms file has thrown me way off course. Would I need to say, use the O2 one, and then re-do my ExtROM folder with the Orange stuff?
Assuming your device has the 1.31 rom on it, and Radio 1.06.02 (as you say you have installed. Then it's pretty easy to update the ExtRom to the latest Orange one.
Install the Extended Rom Unlocker initially through normal methods, copy the cab and run - ftp://xda:[email protected]_1_22/Tools//xda-developers_Unlocker.CAB. Then under Programs/Extended Rom Tools, click uhide and unlock and do a soft reset.
Download the M2000 ExtRom from ftp://xda:[email protected]/BlueAngel/Extended_Roms/Orange_UK_SPVM2000_Ext_ROM_131124.zip
Go to the root of your device and into the 'Extended Rom' folder, delete the contents and replace with the contents of the zip file. Then Lock and Hide your extended rom and perform a hard reset.
If you haven't got 1.31 CE Rom, then you may wish to follow this method:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=95153&highlight=#95153
Perfect, brilliant. Will give it a try as soon as I have time!
Hi,
Just wanted to get BT working well on my PDA2k.
Did the Radio upgrade as told in wiki to 1.10 - as I saw a few comments saying 1.12 was unstable.
WEnt through fine, except now I cannot get a phone signal at all and the phone call buttons don't work.
What is the best thing to do? Should I just do the whole upgrade to 1.40. I read that the phone was locking up on this and was not confident to do the fix.
Appreciate your help.
(Going back to 1.22 for now as I have now wasted 4 hours precious work tome just trying to get the device to work as it originally should!)
Russel
W know have 3 threads on the 1.40.
All seem to post errors with that rom in some minor way.
Myself I went for the 1.40 converted to type I and have not added the ext rom (yet). also have 1.12, in all I am happy with it as I have not come across any of those issues (as i dont use the camera, ect). So far Imate makes the best rom IMHO.
MDAIIIUser said:
W know have 3 threads on the 1.40.
All seem to post errors with that rom in some minor way.
Myself I went for the 1.40 converted to type I and have not added the ext rom (yet). also have 1.12, in all I am happy with it as I have not come across any of those issues (as i dont use the camera, ect). So far Imate makes the best rom IMHO.
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MDAIIIUser, which 1.40 rom are you using? The one from the original thread "New Rom 1.40 on FTP" or the one you converted from this thread "BA_WWE_14000_147_11200_Ship" ? There should not be any differences between roms i think, but i find there are some subtle variances. Is it possible that conversion can corrupt the final rom produced? Your converted rom seems to work better for me but still need a soft reset now and then
converted to type I qtek 147.
It could be possible that conversion is corupt but dont think so, check wiki avlible roms and see the passed with new tool. all of these roms have been confirmed to work.
Sure I have issues with this rom but they are carry over from 1.02, 1.22, 1.31 and now 1.40. Most based on alarm issues as well as remove from power were i get locked due to i-pass (i think)
I will do a hex file compare on the 1.40 ce from qtec and see if i see anything.
Type I and Type II
Thanks for the reply - appreciate it.
Which download was it that you used - the one from wiki?
Also what is the difference between type I and type II?
Cheers
Russel
Type I and Type II
Thanks for the reply - appreciate it.
Which download was it that you used - the one from wiki?
I tried to download 1.40 - but got a country error - any suggestions?
Also what is the difference between type I and type II?
Cheers
Russel
Type I and Type II cont'd
Thanks for the reply - sorry a bit slow here.
I get there is a difference between types according to the origin - however how is it relevant? If I am coming from 1.22.162 (Type I) ext ROM should I make sure I only install a ROM upgrade that is type I? :?
Cheers
Russel
Clear text.
Type I roms work with tool xda3nbtool.exe
Tpye II roms give you a header error when used with tool.
Thus you can only upgrade type I roms unless you know the country code fix that seems to work.
Wiki is my prefered choice for downloading roms, in the case of the 1.40 I used the thread to download the converted 1.40 to type I rom which was not hard for me as I posted it. (its the qtek 1.40.147)
Thanks
Thanks MDAIIIuser. It is clear now.
Regards
Russel
MDAIIIUser, i saw your reply in another thread after comparing the 1.40 roms. How about the first 1.40 rom posted in this file BA_1.40_radio_1.20_untested_extrom.rar on the ftp? This should be the same as all the others right? I seem to have had fewer problems with this rom than the converted to type I qtek 147. My main problem seems to be turning the phone on after being in flight mode, losing network signal and GPRS sometimes not connecting. All need a soft reset to resolve. The from BA_1.40_radio_1.20_untested_extrom.rar gave me problems when trying to turn on wifi. Im using radio 1.12.
efjay
It takes me just over an hour to download roms of this site which I know is my problem.
I dont like working with baked roms as I can't post them to wiki as they are not complete,
I can't cook the Ext Rom as it to is not original,
I can't post the ext rom in wiki
and thus the hour download is a waste of my time.
I seem to spend enough time updating wiki and finding new roms on the web so sorry the answer is no I wont check that rom untill I see a original ship.exe.
You could though
MDAIIIUser, sure i would be happy to. Im not too sure what tool i should use to do a comparison. Im reading wiki, if its there ill find it. thanks
My choice would be ultracompare
http://www.ultraedit.com/
you will notice that the header is different this is due to the file timestamp and date.
Windows media player v10
MDAIIIuser or anyone else.
I upgraded my CE ROM to 1.40, however I cannot get windows media player to pick up any of my music files as valid .wma files. It also seems to be endlessly looking for a skin.
Any suggestions?
Cheers
Russel
read something about that in one of the 3 threads on the 1.40 (well I think I did)
How to fix
DId a search for WMP problems - couldn't find anything useful at a quick glance. Any ideas how to resolve it?
Cheers
Russel
MDAIIIUser, i downloaded ultracompare and can see there are differences with all the 1.40 roms but the output doesnt make sense to me. I guess ill try all the roms and if there is a difference it should show up. thanks for your help
Thought I'd clear up some confusion on the various ROMs and where they are at now. Each of these ROMs is customized for Cingular - they have the Cingular splash screen, and GPRS and MMS account settings.
The orignal ROM that shipped on the 8125:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
Based on QTek ROM that has A2DP (not recommended since there is now a 2.17 ROM with A2DP):
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_2080701_101_11310_WWE.exe
Based on QTek test ROM above, but with additional ringers, themes, overclocking app:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_RUU_2080701_101_11310_WWE-RINGRS-OCLOCK.exe
Based on Imate 2.17 ROM with AKU2 and MSFP (this is the "cleanest" customized ROM):
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU2_WWE.exe
Based on 2.17 Imate ROM, but with additional ringers, themes, and overclocking app:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU2_WWE-RINGRS-OCLOCK.exe
Based on 2.17 Imate ROM, but with additional ringers, themes, overclocking app, and Compact Framework 2 integrated into ROM:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU2_WWE_RNGRS_OCLOCK_CF2.exe
Based on 2.17 Imate ROM, but with additional ringers, themes, overclocking app, Compact Framework 2, and A2DP/AVRCP:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU2_WWE_CF2_A2DP.exe
To flash to a new ROM, follow the directions listed in numerous posts. In a nutshell you do this:
Plug in, establish Activestink (no need to create a full partnership)
Use aWizard to CID unlock. Phone will restart when done.
Re-establish Activestink
Run the ROM upgrader of choice
I'd rather this post not turn into troubleshooting topic for specific versions, so try to keep those sorts of topics in the announcement threads for each ROM, or start a new topic. (after doing a search of the forums to see if your question/issue has been addressed elsewhere)
Thankya and stuff
You are the man, dude! Thanks for sharing your talents.
I hate post bumpers, but I'm still getting PMs and seeing folks looking for proper links to the ROMs, so, BUMP BIATCH.
Yeah, this should stay near the top, I'm running one of your roms and it's great, thanks!
Thank you VERY much for all your time & hard work. It is much appreciated.
awesome work bud! Thanks so much for this stuff..
this thread should be stickied!!
Your the man!!!!
Muchas gracias summiter for your wisdom and help.
Summiter:
You do great work. I'm a real Noobie. I'm now using the QTEK WWE TEST ROM 2.8 . . .something. I have a cingular 8125 phone but using T-Mobile USA service. I'm flashed the Test ROM to get the A2DP and AVRCP profiles. It works OK but it hangs especially when going from switching from GPRS to Wifi and back (I have to soft reset the device.)
Which of your ROMs would work the best for me? By looking at the list the 2.17 I-mate with A2DP and AVRCP seem to look the best.
Thanks for all the good work.
RE: upgrade to the May 2nd "repaired" version
Thanx summitter. I used an older file (May 2, 2006 download) ----
Cingular_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU2_WWE_CF2_A2DP-fixed.exe
I assume this is the same as the latest one in the directory ---
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/
Mine said 54m on the FTP site and wound up about 56,301k on my PC.
Assuming i have the same one, i should already have Compact Net Framework 2. So, the question is: did i screw this up when -----
1. downloaded the .msi file for WiFiFoFum. About 7mb file with NET Compact Framework 2 (via USB Active Sync connection).
2. Tried to install the app. First it loaded WiFiFoFum successfully. Stopped about 1/3 during NET Compact Framework 2 install.
3. After numerous tries, i removed the both. Even deleted the new additional directory of NET Compact Framework 2.
4. The loaded the .CAB version of WiFiFoFum (which was only 300k and did not have NET Compact Framework). Seems to be working fine.
Could i have removed NET Compact Framework from my system? Is there anyway to tell if it still is loaded?
Everything seems to be working. Wifi, Bluetooth, GPRS, and even a little program that pushes all audio to my BT headset.
Thoughts anyone?
MSFP Problem...
Has anyone been able to get the ota push side of MSFP to work w/ Cingular in the US and the MSFP version of this rom upgrade?
Thanks!
Once again thanks Summiter. Can't wait to see what you have cookin' up next. I now have two Bluetooth Stereo Headsets and am waiting on the Nextlink Spider to make it my third. All thanks to you. Moto HT820 and Jabra BT620.
Zoki hack needed with this ROM?
Based on 2.17 iMate ROM, but with additional ringers, themes, overclocking app, Compact Framework 2, and A2DP/AVRCP:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU2_WWE_CF2_A2DP.exe
Hi Summiter/ any one who have installed this Rom,
I have installed the last ROM in this thread.
Do we need Tornado hack cab files done by Zoki in other threads in order to get the bluetooth stereo with this ROM. or we are good to go with this ROM. Because in this version I could not see any sbc or b2a2dp or avrcp_ files as given by the zoki version.
Thanks
Noob Question here
I unlocked my phone and got ready to install the 2.17. Then I saw the warning that it would erase all the info on the device. I'm sure once I do a quick activestink after the boot, I'll get all my contacts back. But will I have to reset all of my other settings (email, gprs, etc.). I just got the phone last week and have already spent literally hours on the phone with Cingular's tech support sorting out all sorts of issues (like not being able to connect to gprs and voice mail not working, which was their problem I think). Thanks in advance.
10 print "bump"
20 goto 10
Ok,
I unlocked the phone and cid using lokwiz and then flashed the rom with the ftp://xda:[email protected]_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU2_WWE_CF2_A2DP.exe version. Not sure if it worked though. The battery icon disappeared, but I don't see the overclocking feature or any additional ringers or themes. It shows the ROM version as 1.8.11.1 WWE and the ROM Date at 11/24/05. Radio version is 2.07.10. Did it update? I get the sneaky suspicion that it didn't.
I did see it load the A2DP cab after the reboot, but don't have the headset to test it yet. How do I tell if it worked?
Thanks in advance.
Make sure you do the super unlock, not just the regular one. Otherwise it only flashes halfway
Thanks. I'm pretty sure that's the one I did. I'll try again, though I'll probably wait until Summiter gets the next ROM out later this week. I flashed it twice today and am ready to take a break from it.
BTW, thanks for all the hard work Summiter.
Where are the cab files located after I flash the unit?
Where are the cab files located after I flash the unit, so I can install the extra features included with it ?
i will have to say thank you to summiter for the rom we have used it at my work and we are very happy with it.
hello
very nice with a wealth of information.
i wanted to upgrade the roms and unlock my siemens sx66.
before i do it, i want to verify the manner in which it is done. from my readings it appears that i update the roms and then after they are all done then i unlock the phone.
i plan to backup the phone before all is done.
one of my main questions is that my wife also has one of the sx66s and we share contacts and the calender. we do this via active sync. will there be any issue with my phone having a different rom than hers with the syncing?
also, once all the roms are update, would i just restore from a backup or do i just place items back in.
i was planning on using the stable roms from the SX66 (Blue Angel) Standardization Project
thanks in advance for your assistance
bob
read wiki for the blueangel
thanks, will do
ok, i read the info provided and also found the sx66 standardization project webpage. that site is very dedicated to the sx66 that cingular wireless put out, which what i have.
the site gives good directions, but i have one issue. it says that you need to have all the same revisions for the main and extended rom. how exactly do i do that? do i just do the main and radio rom upgrade first, then the extended rom? i just don't want to mess up the phone by not doing something correctly.
thanks in advance,
bob
afaik you flash them all at the same time, but what it means is dont flash an extended rom for one ROM version also with with a different ROM version
got it done
followed the instructions on the sx66 standardization project -
unhid the extended_rom folder using the correct too then did a soft reboot
then put the 1.44.xx ext rom into the correct folder, after that ran baupdater with the 1.44.xx main rom and 1.15.xx radio rom. after all was done i did a hard reset and everything installed excellent
How is it Working?
Bob332, is your SX66 functioning OK, not problems? How is your BT, more stable, pairing ok? How did you know what upgrade to use as I am not finding a match for the Siemens model?
Re: How is it Working?
Dan0568 said:
Bob332, is your SX66 functioning OK, not problems? How is your BT, more stable, pairing ok? How did you know what upgrade to use as I am not finding a match for the Siemens model?
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it is running nicely. as far as bt, i don't use it reguarily, but with the headset i have it works nicely - jabra bt800. i can say that it appears to run as good if not better than my wife's which is not modded at all. i get a good signal and it is just as stable as my wife's. i feel the newer roms have better wifi control and there are some additional features with them. i used the roms off of the sx66 standarization project webpage.
Bob, as the instructions seemed very clear I went for it. My device settings now read: ROM 1.42.00, Ext ROM 1.20.115, Radio 1.02.10 and
BT Stack 3900. Protocol 1337.35.
What did I do wrong? More importantly how can I get my settings to match yours – 1.42.126 & 1.15? When I attempt to load the Radio I get this error using BAUpgrade tool? Where do I go from here?
Which upgrade tool do I use for the Radio?
Dan0568 said:
Bob, as the instructions seemed very clear I went for it. My device settings now read: ROM 1.42.00, Ext ROM 1.20.115, Radio 1.02.10 and
BT Stack 3900. Protocol 1337.35.
What did I do wrong? More importantly how can I get my settings to match yours – 1.42.126 & 1.15? When I attempt to load the Radio I get this error using BAUpgrade tool? Where do I go from here?
Which upgrade tool do I use for the Radio?
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read everything i have put up and d/l the appropriate files before going farther, then follow the 1, 2, 3 method at the end
here is the page - http://sx66-blueangel.home.comcast.net/SystemRadio.htm
use the blue angel flash rom tool aka - baupdate.exe and make sure both the system and radio roms are in the same folder as the the updater tool. during the upgrade, actually before it starts, it should tell you what versions you are upgrading to. also, this information and these roms are for a cingular branded sx66.
system and radio roms - system - 1.40.00 (source is dutch) and radio - 1.15 UK
unhide the extended_rom folder using the correct tool from this page - http://sx66-blueangel.home.comcast.net/Extended.htm (latest ext rom tools) and also read the pdf documentation located here - http://relaysgoldens.com/sx66/ext_roms/Extended_ROM_Installation_Instructions.pdf
then did a soft reboot
d/l the newest "pre-cooked" ext rom - 1.40.125
1. put the 1.44.xx ext rom into the correct folder after you unhid it on the sx66
2. run baupdater with the 1.44.xx main rom and 1.15.xx radio rom.
3. do a hard reset and the info from the new ext rom will be installed
this should get you set up
Hello people, I have a question for you. I recently did the Upgrade of my Qtek 9090 to WM 5 (device data now is PH20B WWE 5.03.02 1.12.00). It seems to be working fine (have yet to test wireless connection), but I discovered that I can't get the camera on the phone to work. For some reason, it simply does not react to camera button. It also does not react even when I try with the manual startup of pictures & videos application. Does anyone has any idea how to get out from this one? If this is any help, the original phone data were PH20B 0 B WWE E DANGA102 1.40.00 0 0 1.40.147 1.12.00 12.00.
Thanks a lot
Simple but crucial question: Which WM5 rom you flashed? Have you read specific information about this rom? maybe this one requires some post-instalation operations?
Basically, I found this ROM on www.buzzdev.net, and it only stated BA WM2005 5.03.02WWE - standard upgrade. It is basically the only one which worked for me, since every other dumped me (the model of the phone matched the ROM). However, there were no additional explanations for this, so I am stuck. Is there any registry tweak, or aditional piece of software which could make it work, or I will have to go looking further for better ROM?
As long as we don't know what is the problem with the ROM, we cannot help you - some ROMs just had camera support cut out, others needed installing additional software, some had errors.
About model/device check: please take any recent WM5 rom (baniaczek's for starters) and just read carefully flash instructions from Wiki - there is no problem with device check, if you understand what you do and how you should do it.
Thanks Jakub for good advice, I've been doing some reading and I tried baniaczek's latest issue from the web. However, I've got stuck. Namely, MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe does not work in my case. It simply tells that there has been communication error with the device, or if it starts it tells that this ROM upgrade utility was not designed for this device. I tried the other way with BaUpgrade.exe, with usage of EditFix.bat and xda3nbftool.exe, but it seems that I'm doing something wrong - each time I get the message that the specific ROM was not written for me and that I should check my vendor. Is there any way to get out of this, since now it seems that I can't do no upgrade or downgrade at all?
Thanks a lot in advance, I know this is mostly due to my mistakes and usage of unchecked ROMs.
Thank to everyone who was trying to help me. I did some experimenting in order to solve the upgrade issue, and I solved the problem. This is how I did it: Namely, I downloaded KitchenAKU3.5v2-xplode, which also contains useful readme. Basically if you want to have MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe to work for you at all, you have to put the device in Bootloader mode (press power + record simultaneously). After that, the upgrade went smoothly, after I designed my own rom, which was very easy with xplode's tutorial.
One more thing I did was that after the upgrade, I did a soft reset and "cleanup" of the device. after the soft reset I changed following options on the boot screen using camera and record buttons:
“Enable KITL” set to NO
“Clean Registry Hive” set to YES
“Format Storage” set to YES. (again on xplode's instructions)
After that, I confirmed settings with pressing of the mail button. One minute later, I had fully operational and very fast QTEK 9090 running WM5.
I hope that some things I did will be useful to other people trying to fix their blue angels. And of course, thanks to Xplode for making an excellent user-friendly upgrade.