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go back to 2003 these roms are a disgrace to microsoft haha go billy gates!
Well if you can't use it - do not use it.
The main point (if you did not notice) is tath there is no official release of WM5 for BA. Thus, saying something about Microsoft's OS that was not designed/adjusted for a given hardware is the same as complaining about stupid Ferrari engine that cannot be installed into a regular Renault.
Ive only had my Blue Angel for a couple of weeks (converted from Symbian UIQ)
I decided to try the lastest Helmi 1.3 and so far it's been great
OK there are a couple of issues but so far i've been happy.
I now no longer backup the phone on a daily basis and have not needed to soft reset for ages , with 2003 it was getting to be a pain in the neck.
Also my bluetooth headset has much better quality on WM5 with no static
So i for one am happy
Explain what problems you're having!!
The AKU ROM's are the best of the lot I say - and I will go as far as saying Helmi's AKU3.2 is as fast as 2003SE (and prettier!). It's stable, most programs work and still being improved!
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I now no longer backup the phone on a daily basis
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<aol>me too!!</aol>
Knowing that running down the battery isn't going to zap your phone is great. Thanks again to all those who helped bring WM5 to the blue angel!!
Personally, I'm still on helmi 1.2 and I find it to be just as reliable or moreso than WM2003.
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machmandp said:
I now no longer backup the phone on a daily basis
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<aol>me too!!</aol>
Knowing that running down the battery isn't going to zap your phone is great. Thanks again to all those who helped bring WM5 to the blue angel!!
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yeah, can anyone tell me what is the lifespan of the backup battery? 2 nights ago, before i slept i plugged my BA with only 3hrs remaining battery life... woke up 9 hrs after to see that i forgot to plug the charger to the wall outlet! immediately plugged it in and the BA soft resetted, but lo and behold, everything is still there!
and here's the twist, all my most often used apps are installed in the ramdisk!
can 2003se beat that?
I suggest you first research and review WM5 on BA before complaining, because if you complain without first knowing what you are talking about you, you'll easily turn to an IDIOT in the forums (pun not intended)
Um....why all the replies to a 12 year old proving he's cool?
Indeed. I wonder why he even has the brains to be able to know how to use a browser... or even plug in his computer
I have also converted to Helmi 1.3 and although WM5 was alittle slow, this is no fault of the Rom but the fact that the OS was desgined for faster CPU's. installed XCPUScalar and pumped up the cpu speed from 400 to 530, and yeah sure i do get less battery life, but for me that is not an issue, as I charge while at work.
I am alot happier and although the odd lock up happens, it a helava-lot better than 2003SE
Are you guys F..... crazy
Whay dont you use some programs like Destinator 6 or Tomtom Navigator 5, and check the performance while navigate on maps.
This versions of WM5 are too slow, compared with 2003SE.
I have tested all the versions with no lucky, all GPS programs on WM5 for BlueAngel has a lot of lag on maps.
I have no problems with TomTom... No lags (except long start-up), no hangs, etc...
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cyberbit said:
Whay dont you use some programs like Destinator 6 or Tomtom Navigator 5, and check the performance while navigate on maps.
This versions of WM5 are too slow, compared with 2003SE.
I have tested all the versions with no lucky, all GPS programs on WM5 for BlueAngel has a lot of lag on maps.
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I dont have a problem with TomTom5 as well. True slightly slow start but never any lags or problems. i think ur problem maybe that your cpu is still set to 400mhz and that where tomtom is suffering. pump up ur cpu and see if that helps.
fa147 said:
I have also converted to Helmi 1.3 and although WM5 was alittle slow, this is no fault of the Rom but the fact that the OS was desgined for faster CPU's. installed XCPUScalar and pumped up the cpu speed from 400 to 530, and yeah sure i do get less battery life, but for me that is not an issue, as I charge while at work.
I am alot happier and although the odd lock up happens, it a helava-lot better than 2003SE
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The speed of the CPU isn't the problem, its the type of flash memory used on older pre-WM5 devices.. sure upping the clock helps as I run mine at 590 all the time, but fact of the matter is this is about the fastest we'll ever see WM5 on our BAs because of this hardware problem
Installing to the RAM disk reduces this problem, that's why it's there. The RAM storage is much faster than the ROM areas.
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Installing to the RAM disk reduces this problem, that's why it's there. The RAM storage is much faster than the ROM areas.
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Is this 'RAM' the one which zeros itself after battery fully drains?
Yes, but I've had that happen once in 18 months of having the BA. If you only install accessory software to the ramdisk, a reset won't cause you much hastle other than having to reinstall a couple of applications.
I detest the PC installation of apps over activesync now as it unnessarilly clutters up your PC. I just keep all of the cab files a directory on the sdcard. I can hard reset and get everything installed really quickly this way.
So under normal conditions a softreset won't erase data on RAM disk?
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So under normal conditions a softreset won't erase data on RAM disk?
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That's correct. You'd need to either drain the backup battery completely or hard-reset to lose it. It could still happen, which is why I only install apps there. Don't keep any personal docs etc. just in case.
Thnx Fraser
Hi all,
First post here for me Got my TyTN II a few days ago and I'm loving it. It's such a nice phone and has a great build quality.
The only big thing that I find disappointing is the speed of the device. My previous phone was an HTC Wizard and my TyTN II is supposed to be literally double the speed of it, but there's no way it feels like that. In fact the Wizard, when overclocked with BatteryStatus to about 260Mhz) seems faster than this new beast (at times).
The things I particularly notice the slow speed with are...
- opening the keyboard (switching from portrait to landscape mode seems to take 2-3 times as long as with the Wizard)
- navigating (scrolling) through the list of Programs just seems sluggish compared to my [overclocked] Wizard
Another peculiar thing I've noticed is the speed of the "view finder" in the camera. It seems sluggish to the EXTREME, almost like a "night mode" is permanently on! I've noticed that sometimes putting the device in to standby and waking it back up gets the view finder running at "full speed" (what I would say looks like 25-30 fps).
Anyone got a clue what I'm talking about?
Dave
Did you add any applications (which may not be 100% compatible) after getting the machine? I had a Wizard too and am waiting for the TyTN II to come, but with the Wizard certain applications slowed the phone down much!
Regards,
Nika.
Well yeah, I've loaded it with a ton of rubbish now but in all honesty I noticed the slow down when I first took the machine out of the box.
The camera preview/view finder is particularly puzzling!
I've just put BatteryStatus on (a) to see if the CPU is constantly working and (b) with the hope to overclock it a little. I've just noticed that it doesn't support the TyTYN II processor tho so that's out of the window!
Once a new cooked and "polished" ROM comes out for your Kaiser, it will work faster. Almost every first official ROM is buggy and sluggish. it's not the hardware, it's the software.
One reason why I don't buy a device on it's first release.
About the camera preview/view finder slowness, it is due to not enough light in the room.
I was puzzled also. I tought I got faulty device.
Try to use it outdoor, it is very good when it has enough light.
Here is the discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328628
UncleJimbo said:
Well yeah, I've loaded it with a ton of rubbish now but in all honesty I noticed the slow down when I first took the machine out of the box.
The camera preview/view finder is particularly puzzling!
I've just put BatteryStatus on (a) to see if the CPU is constantly working and (b) with the hope to overclock it a little. I've just noticed that it doesn't support the TyTYN II processor tho so that's out of the window!
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UncleJimbo said:
Hi all,
First post here for me Got my TyTN II a few days ago and I'm loving it. It's such a nice phone and has a great build quality.
The only big thing that I find disappointing is the speed of the device. My previous phone was an HTC Wizard and my TyTN II is supposed to be literally double the speed of it, but there's no way it feels like that. In fact the Wizard, when overclocked with BatteryStatus to about 260Mhz) seems faster than this new beast (at times).
The things I particularly notice the slow speed with are...
- opening the keyboard (switching from portrait to landscape mode seems to take 2-3 times as long as with the Wizard)
- navigating (scrolling) through the list of Programs just seems sluggish compared to my [overclocked] Wizard
Another peculiar thing I've noticed is the speed of the "view finder" in the camera. It seems sluggish to the EXTREME, almost like a "night mode" is permanently on! I've noticed that sometimes putting the device in to standby and waking it back up gets the view finder running at "full speed" (what I would say looks like 25-30 fps).
Anyone got a clue what I'm talking about?
Dave
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Well, this surprises me. Mine is very fast and in particular for those things you mention!! Screen orientation for example is virtually instantaneous (maybe 1 to 2 seconds compared with TyTn that could take 5 to 20 seconds) and scrolling (with the exception of PIE) is smooth and fast. From standby by to on is less than a second. Compared with the TyTn the camera on 2mg is much faster as well.
Not sure where that leaves us then, if you say it was like that out of the box. That does not sound like it's something you have loaded, but might be worth re-checking that with a hard reset.
I notice a suggestion above that a new ROM might be faster. I really question that because as I say my ROM (presumably the same as yours) is very fast and the single most impressive thing about the device!
In your situation - I would seriously consider a hard reset to be sure it was a good installation. If problems persist, I would be tempted to look at a replacement as that slowness is not normal.
Mike
DaVince said:
Once a new cooked and "polished" ROM comes out for your Kaiser, it will work faster. Almost every first official ROM is buggy and sluggish. it's not the hardware, it's the software.
One reason why I don't buy a device on it's first release.
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That was certainly true with the TyTn, but my Kaiser (unbranded) is superbly fast. Virtually instant switch on screen rotation scrolling (except PIE), so I'm not at all convinced this is the problem in this case.
Mike
Hi
Main reason for making a device slow is running apps from the memory card. Especially if they are there in the background. Make sure that everything on your today screen and everything that runs more often is on the main memory. Storage card is good for instlations of everything you use and then close (e.g. SatNav, Camera apps etc.)
Kaiser is running extremly faster than anything else.
RonenB said:
Hi
Main reason for making a device slow is running apps from the memory card. Especially if they are there in the background. Make sure that everything on your today screen and everything that runs more often is on the main memory. Storage card is good for instlations of everything you use and then close (e.g. SatNav, Camera apps etc.)
Kaiser is running extremly faster than anything else.
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GOOD point! Not sure if the OP does this automatically as we all should, it's easy to overlook the obvious sometimes!
Mike
same experience
Hi - I too am having the same problems described above regarding the slowness. I'm using the default HTC installed rom (1.56.405.5).
Were you able to solve the slowness issue? If so, how?
Thanks.
I'm having an odd slowdown issue. Everything runs incredibly fast pretty much 90% of the time except when I'm syncing. Everything on the device slows to a crawl and it takes forever for activesync to finish its business. This occurs both when I'm syncing via the USB cable and when I'm doing it via bluetooth. Any ideas?
Bellfazar, the exact same thing happens to me too... I'm using Vista btw.
Plus i have a serious slowdown after softreset (so maybe it's software related, don't have time for hardreset), but after a minute or so, its fast again
darkilici said:
Bellfazar, the exact same thing happens to me too... I'm using Vista btw.
Plus i have a serious slowdown after softreset (so maybe it's software related, don't have time for hardreset), but after a minute or so, its fast again
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After a soft reset, the phone has to load everything in memory for the first time.. So accessing the Programs window or the start menu the first time takes a while. Accessing it for the second time, everthing is already loaded into memory and fast again...
Is there not a powertool for WM6 which can help us disabling stuff?
You can use Startup Manager by Baniaczek to disable items that start at warm reboot. Or remove them manually from the WINDOWS\Startup folder
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=262476
And use HTC Task Manager to kill running applications and/or close them when closing an app instead of minimising it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330498
sometimes since the new kaiser tweak version i can see (batterystatus) that my processor keeps running at 100%. everything slows down. even a soft reset does not help. when i soft reset without my storage card everything is fine but as soon as i insert the card 100%. man this sucks.
reihen said:
sometimes since the new kaiser tweak version i can see (batterystatus) that my processor keeps running at 100%. everything slows down. even a soft reset does not help. when i soft reset without my storage card everything is fine but as soon as i insert the card 100%. man this sucks.
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Yeah, I can imagine! Especially when it seems you're the only one (or at least the first that complains). I don't mind trying to help you, but you'll have to answer some questions first:
1. What KaiserTweak.exe (time/date of file) and KaiserTweak.xml (time/date of file, or name of zip-file you downloaded) versions did you load?
2. What tweaks did you use after implementing the new version?
Regards,
Nika.
i never said it was the kaiser tweak nor do i think thats the problem. i restored to a backup from a week before and this still (sometimes happens). so you got me. When i figure this out i will let you know.
UncleJimbo said:
Hi all,
First post here for me Got my TyTN II a few days ago and I'm loving it. It's such a nice phone and has a great build quality.
The only big thing that I find disappointing is the speed of the device. My previous phone was an HTC Wizard and my TyTN II is supposed to be literally double the speed of it, but there's no way it feels like that. In fact the Wizard, when overclocked with BatteryStatus to about 260Mhz) seems faster than this new beast (at times).
The things I particularly notice the slow speed with are...
- opening the keyboard (switching from portrait to landscape mode seems to take 2-3 times as long as with the Wizard)
- navigating (scrolling) through the list of Programs just seems sluggish compared to my [overclocked] Wizard
Another peculiar thing I've noticed is the speed of the "view finder" in the camera. It seems sluggish to the EXTREME, almost like a "night mode" is permanently on! I've noticed that sometimes putting the device in to standby and waking it back up gets the view finder running at "full speed" (what I would say looks like 25-30 fps).
Anyone got a clue what I'm talking about?
Dave
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Try Q-Mobile 1.11 it is the fastest ROM I have ever used.
It seems that my phone will sometimes randomly start running out of battery really fast and memmaid shows that the process filesys.exe is taking up the processor at a 100% load. I know that this is part of how windows mobile accesses its storage systems, but I doubt that it's normal. Anyone else having the same problem?
All red items have been uninstalled to see if they were the cause.
I'm running:
Touch-IT full ROM
Battery Status beta 1.04
Default Company Picture Viewer
S2U2 0.5
PocketCM Contacts 0.15
ClearTemp
OP3 ShortCode
FlashVideoBundle
Picsel Browser (Which BTW since installing has made my free space significantly shrink...)
vTap
TRE (reg editor)
memmaid demo
PocketTweak
Pocket Notepad
tGetFile.dll
PocketWeather
HTC Home
Total Commander
psShutXP
Mobile Office
hmm... That list suddently feels a lot longer than it did before. lol
But nothing is running in the background with the exception of ActiveSync.
Thanks guys
Update: Here's a list of what modules filesys.exe has loaded according to Memmaid:
Threads: 24
encfilt.dll
coredll.dll.0409.MUI
ole32.dll
sqlcese30.sys.dll
MSASN1.dll
crypt32.dll
rsaenh.dll
discache.dll
LSFILTER.dll
fsreplxfilt.dll
cachefilt.dll
fatsd.dll
cecompr.dll
HtcFsdspy.dll
imgfs.dll
mspart.dll
trueFFS.dll
Fsdmgr.dll
certmod.dll
coredll.dll
Update: It seems that the two coredll's are taking the most resources, but I can't test this out as I don't have any software that can break it down for me, except for abctaskman or whatever it's called and that's only a demo so it won't show me which module is using what other than the other of their CPU usage.
UPDATE: I thought that maybe it was a similar issue to this, but that it was running the compaction on my memory card since I had set the volatile temp to run from that... but that hit a wall as well when I made it run on the main memory again.
UPDATE: I forgot to mention that I also have the Extended ROM enabled as well.
MODS, can we please move this to one of the general forums? I'm not sure which one would be best, though....
OK, so far I've found out that it's a problem not only with this ROM but with WM5 on other devices.
Here is a patch for another device and OS. What I'm trying to figure out is what exactly he patched so we can do the same to our file for our phones.
HI !
I run the German Touch-IT Rom with S2U2 and have the same Problems. Here is what i found out:
- Battery drains in 3-4 Hours IF mortplayer has been started. I usually use Mortplayer to wake me up in the morning. My Music is stored on the SD Card, but this has always been this way.
- I have problems with the batteriy since S2U2 was installed.
-> Maybe Su2u does not suspend our Herald, so that the SD-Card is not suspended, too. Maybe filesys.exe (and with this mortplayer and also HTC Home) randomly ask if the card is still available - Which consumes a lot of power.
...
What do you think ?
I will delete S2U2 when i don´t need the wakeup function this weekend
Hmm... It started around the same time that I added S2U2... I'll try to remove it and see what happens.
I temporarily disabled S2U2 but no change.
Updated with more info.
I hate to bump my own thread, but it seems that updating the thread doesn't bring it up any higher. I wonder if anyone else was having the same exact issue?
I'm determined to solve this problem, as it brings my battery life to a sad 6 hours if the EDGE is on, about 9 hours when it's not. And that's with me underclocking it half the time... and the screen brightness down... and with the phone in "hybernate" or whatever you call the screen being off most of the day...
S2U2 actually did dramatically decrease my battery life... Uninstalling fixed it. Just thought I'd say that; I don't know anything about your other issues, sorry.
I have the same problem too on a mda vario (wizard) with wm6 rom(Dutch version) more info about the rom: http://cleanimport.xda/index.php?threads/350255/
I have been searching around for a solution. But I could not find one.
Here is my list of the modules filesys.exe has loaded according to Memmaid:
Threads: 17
encfilt.dll
coredll.dll.0409.MUI
ole32.dll
sqlcese30.sys.dll
MSASN1.dll
crypt32.dll
rsaenh.dll
discache.dll
fsreplxfilt.dll
cachefilt.dll
fatsd.dll
cecompr.dll
HtcFsdspy.dll
imgfs.dll
mspart.dll
trueFFS.dll
Fsdmgr.dll
certmod.dll
coredll.dll
Does anyone have found a solution for this problem?
whixh general??
there is "development and hacking" or "modifying and upgrading" i´m also NOT sure
S2U2 has also caused a battery drain on my wing as well. As i am sure it is the #1 reason my wing will crash (lock up) then when i reboot the wing it freezez permently on the password screen. i have tried numberious soft resets. with and without the microsd in... eventually i have to hard reset!
all applications that is running on your homescreen is consuming battery, because its constantly loaded in memory.
If you want a battery that last long, you need to remove sd-card, htc home, cube, touchflo, point-ui or w/e you use to make your device look cool.
you can put it this way, the more stuff you have, the more cool stuf you have, the faster is your battery draining. Ofcourse you can run BS and set up your device with tweaks and w/e, but in the end it all comes to what you want, lasting battery or a "cool" looking device.
In my personal rom, I use htc home, I like it. I use actionscreen and random acces. I have BS to configure battery usage, I deleted EVERYTHING that I dont use in the rom, and yes, it last way longer then fully or moderate loaded roms, but im sure if I kept only basic os, i could prolong battery with a day or two, but I dont need that. I have a device that is compatible to run so many cool things, and I have it because of the many features.
If you can figure out what you want to use in a daily basis, and you can manage to stay away from the heavy eyecandy-stuff (wich you keep to impress your friends) then you can have a longer batterylife
hi guys,
i had the same problem with S2U2, but since i use the cpu-scaler in battery status it's ok.
My battery lifes 3-4 days.
My settings from cpu-scaler: 130 - 201 - 234 without boost.
so i hope this will help you to cause your problem.
mxstyles said:
hi guys,
i had the same problem with S2U2, but since i use the cpu-scaler in battery status it's ok.
My battery lifes 3-4 days.
My settings from cpu-scaler: 130 - 201 - 234 without boost.
so i hope this will help you to cause your problem.
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3-4 days!? is that with no data usage, no talking, pretty much letting ur phone just sit on the table? because the ABSOLUTE most i can get is 1 1/2 days. That sounds a lil too extreme...
did someones try filesys patcher from aximsite?
i'm using gprs over bt always on, a2dp (3-4hours daily), ~50 sms, opera mini and mobilegadu (im) and after 20hours i still got ~40% on this battery and this unit. i had another herald earlier and it was not possible to have 12hours without charging...
and btw - ive got s2u2 running all time and after it is cooked into rom its not using so much energy..
but a2dp draining more battery than on other devices (wizard, universal...)
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3-4 days!? is that with no data usage, no talking, pretty much letting ur phone just sit on the table? because the ABSOLUTE most i can get is 1 1/2 days. That sounds a lil too extreme...
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no, i uses my phone every day for 20min calling, 30sms and 1 hour gprs internet.
I used to have O2 Neo as my device, and when I tried to install "some apps from HTC rom", I notice a warning about battery drain bug of HTC Camera from some mods and admins in another forum.
Now I owned a HTC P4350 and have HTC Camera as defaul camera app on ROM. My battery always drains above 100mA or even 300mA . Do you think that it's caused by the HTC Camera appplication ? any idea how to remove it from ROM ????
mxstyles said:
hi guys,
i had the same problem with S2U2, but since i use the cpu-scaler in battery status it's ok.
My battery lifes 3-4 days.
My settings from cpu-scaler: 130 - 201 - 234 without boost.
so i hope this will help you to cause your problem.
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Hello
Here the same. After I uninstalled S2U2 the battery was longer full.
Regards, Tommy
I seem to also have a problem with S2U2 on the LGKS20. Its a pity because its not just eye candy - its the only app I ever found that prevents accidental answer etc.. I also had massive battery drain with SPB mobile shell. bummer
Right another thing ive noticed tonight...and i would have thought HTC would have solved this but seems like they couldnt care less.
Left my phone on charge at 6pm and went downstairs to watch some TV...anyways i came upstairs at about 12 and turned the phone on....it was in sleep mode like it normally does. Anyways looked at my screen and saw that the internet connection was still alive even though i specified that it should disconn after 1 min of idling. I also found the phone to be extremely sluggish....touchflow slowed right to a crawl. I opened up the the status and looked at the memory and it was down to 23mb!!!...no bloody wonder it wasnt snappy lol. Now this is where it gets interesting because really i had nothing running on the phone...always make sure all tasks are killed off. The only thing that was running was my gmail polling which takes place every hr or so...so dont know if that was causing a massive memory leak.
Im running it with the 1.37 uk stock rom as its a uk spec diamond...i looked through the task manager and couldnt see anything running.
So has anyone found this with the 1.37 rom??..i was going to flash to the new TLR 1.37 rom but just havent had time...has that rom fixed the memory loss.
Dont get me wrong, i still love the device...i restarted the phoen and all was well but over the past few hrs ive been watching the status of the memory and its slowly getting lower and lower. To be honest ive never come across a phone with such a bad case of memory leakage...ive owned most of the SE smartphones...P800, P900, P910i and P990c and i never found them to be as bad as the Diamond. But the good thing about those phones is that SE usually put out a new firmware to sort the memory leakage problems.
So i was just wondereing if anyone found their devices suffering from massive memory leakage....i know its WM thats causing it...
Just to give you an example....i re-started my phone about an hr ago and it was at 50 odd free mb...less than an hr later its at 40.85 mb free...and 72mb are being used...
Hi Spawn,
I've tried every ROM available and none of them fix the memory leak. After some time, a soft reset is necessary to get the TouchFLO 3D 'performance' back. My biggest gripe, is that when returning to the home screen, and watching the hour and minutes 'flop over' the hour part stutters a little bit. The only ROM I've had no stutter with is the Middle East ROM, and even then after some time the memory leak gets worse and it starts stuttering again. *Really* annoys me. Surely it cant be that hard to make that little animation look smooth and fluid.
HTC really need to get off their collective asses and fix this.
In the meantime, thank god for xda-developers.com!
You could try something: turn off Flow and see if you still get a leak.
I loved the look of the interface, but was forever actioning wrong items/ringing wrong people/whatever. I dropped it and went beck to SPB Mobile Shell (which I had been using on my 'good old' P3600i). I have never seen any leak.
I've noticed this too.
If I click on the little task manager icon in the top right corner as soon as the phone is rebooted it displays about 50% roughly. As the day goes on, its up at about 75% - and I have no programs running at all. The only thing I've used through the day is Texting and a bit of Opera.
It seems the phone needs rebooted every day or 2...
I'm also running the UK 1.37 ROM
Hi,
Does Hibernate help reclaim the lost RAM?
Regards
Hello,
You know, the memory leak problem exists since Windows Mobile 6.0. I had it with my previous Eten X500+. Unfortunately, it has not been fixed with WM 6.1. This is a microsoft problem, not HTC...
Philippe
salada2k said:
Hi Spawn,
I've tried every ROM available and none of them fix the memory leak. After some time, a soft reset is necessary to get the TouchFLO 3D 'performance' back. My biggest gripe, is that when returning to the home screen, and watching the hour and minutes 'flop over' the hour part stutters a little bit. The only ROM I've had no stutter with is the Middle East ROM, and even then after some time the memory leak gets worse and it starts stuttering again. *Really* annoys me. Surely it cant be that hard to make that little animation look smooth and fluid.
HTC really need to get off their collective asses and fix this.
In the meantime, thank god for xda-developers.com!
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Yep thats what my diamond was doing...it was having a hard time with the clock.
Anyways seems like we are stuck with this memory leak till HTC release a rom which rectifies or wait for someone to cook up a rom which will rectify the memory leak. Only other gripe i have other than the memory leak is the battery but thats not too bad.
Guess ill just have to re-start the phone every so often. I disabled emailing polling as that seemed to cause it to hang a bit ie the connection stays on even though ive told it to disconn after a min of idling.
Hibernate as far as i know doesnt help the situation as my phone last night was in sleep mode.
I have this issue also, and I have to restart the phone once every two days to free up the memory. I think I know where this comes from : TouchFlo3D records every action you make to optimize the use the next time you boot
or not...
raphaelc said:
I have this issue also, and I have to restart the phone once every two days to free up the memory. I think I know where this comes from : TouchFlo3D records every action you make to optimize the use the next time you boot
or not...
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Yeh after doing a few more tests, it seems like tfl3d is right resource hog...it just wants to take over everything. Im hoping future rom releases optimises the tfl3d but like you im resorting to restart the phone every other day or else it just becomes unuseable.
Its shocking how bad HTC are with their QC control...surely they could see this being a problem ie tfl3d eating up memory like a rabid wolverine.
Thank god for XDA though, at least ill be happy in the knowledge that someone here will be able to figure out this mem leakage and sort it out fingers crossed.
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Its shocking how bad HTC are with their QC control...
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it must be the same dream team which Q-checked windows vista
raphaelc said:
it must the same dream team which Q-checked windows vista
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LOL...well i run vista ultimate on my laptop and its not that bad...M$ and HTC really dont have a clue when it comes to mem leakage...even in WM6 and before it was apparent that memory leakage is a problem..they really need to address the memory leakage problem....i just wish they would do so rather than ignore the problem altogether.
I've changed the clock to the non-flipping one... it seems to make the TouchFlo a bit smoother as it has less 3D to cope with. You certainly notice it after a day when pressing the Home key - its much quicker!
Hello,
I now own my Kaiser for about one year (or a little less). But I'm still not satisfied about the overall speed of the device. I'm not talking about reading videos or playing games, just about "normal" use of the Kaiser.
For exemple, opening the HTC phone application (dial pad) takes around 3 seconds. Then, if I dial a number quickly, it "forget" some buttons I pushed. I need to dial my number slowly for the phone to take each button I push ... This is very frustrating !
Another exemple is going to landscape mode which takes 4 seconds ! And when it is in landscape, my Kaiser is like freezed for about 2 other seconds before I can use it.
A 3rd exemple, when answering calls: my Kaiser rings, I press the green button to answer, but it takes around 2-3 seconds before it does really answer. In the mean time, I sometimes loose my call, and this is really frustrating again !
I know I'm only talking about seconds, but I use my Kaiser a lot in a day, and these seconds become minutes ! And when I need to use my Kaiser quickly, these seconds appear much longer than they really are.
My ROM is the original HTC 6.1 ROM. My Kaiser is as light as possible (no Manilla 2D !), but it does not seem to be enough for my Kaiser to be fast.
I tried some cooked ROMS, but from what I experienced the HTC 6.1 is the faster. I also tweaked my Kaiser with all the informations I could find on this great forum (and KaiserTweak)
I would really enjoy an overclocker utility but it does not exist.
So, about you, are you satisfied with your Kaiser speed ?
Isn't there days where you would throw it against a wall because of these anoying lags ?
Thanks !
If this damn thing eats another microSD card I AM going to throw it against the wall. I'm getting tired of loosing my crap and having to re-do everything.
what about the speed of your ka
iser : is it ok for you ?
No complaints about the "speedyness" of the tilt after flashing to a good ROM. If another one fails I'm sending it back and demanding an upgrade to a Fuze tho.
i haven't had mine for very long but I got a little over-excited in the first few weeks and installed anything i could get my hands on. i just did a hard reset, followed by a soft reset to remove the bloatware, and i've noticed that my phone is a lot faster.
your problems do sound infuriating, have you tried backing up your data and wiping the slate clean?
Dear,
Same problems as yours... Using same rom from HTC !
Very slow phone for each task i need
Boring phone when hang-up or dialing, boring when using tt6 and now tt7 (too slow when driving in little streets, and sometimes truncating voices messages), and more generally, very very slow (and i do not speak about camera).
Sure, this version is really a big bug
Comparing to other kind of phones, even cheaper models runs better (camera better and faster, gps fix faster, gps available even in flight mode.
Usually, when opening keyboard, applications hangs due to the screen rotation, and become available a long time after
Definitively, a real diseapointing device.
I'm now waiting for the renewal of my phone contract to change for something better (sure that is not difficult to find)
Regards,
Laurent
I highly recommend flashing a custom rom.
The rom chef's have done a fantastic job tweaking them to run much faster than the stock roms. Try on and you'll never look back.
I'm currently using the Nov 15'th Hyperdragon Rom and I have virtually no complaints about the speed of the rom for day to day activities. M2D runs very smoothly and is much more friendly to your fingers than any of the stock roms I've used.
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i haven't had mine for very long but I got a little over-excited in the first few weeks and installed anything i could get my hands on. i just did a hard reset, followed by a soft reset to remove the bloatware, and i've noticed that my phone is a lot faster.
your problems do sound infuriating, have you tried backing up your data and wiping the slate clean?
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Thanks a lot ! i did the hard reset followed by the soft reset , then I restored my data : now my Kaiser goes faster ! thanks again !
I have the same issue, not that the kaiser is really slow, but when I compare it with a Wizard (both have custom roms) the Wizard does things a lot faster, like opening start menu, scrolling isn't laggy, change tabs is fast. No matter what rom I use on my kaiser, I can't get to the use speed of the Wizard. Maybe it is because I install programs on the SD instead of the phone itself?
Nothing to Compare to
I don't have anything to really compare to, but my Kaiser - Bloatware removed - seems to work well. My only real complaint is that ending a call with the touchscreen takes a few seconds, but the red end key ends it pretty quick. If there is a delay on some things, it is far outweighed by the functionality I feel I'm getting from my tilt. I use it as primary pc - email, web, movies, word, excel, etc..
I tell people it is a mini computer with a phone added on as an afterthought. That is why with comes with such a crappy phone interface. I downloaded a new skin and it looks and works excellent.
Will
wasilvers said:
I don't have anything to really compare to, but my Kaiser - Bloatware removed - seems to work well. My only real complaint is that ending a call with the touchscreen takes a few seconds, but the red end key ends it pretty quick. If there is a delay on some things, it is far outweighed by the functionality I feel I'm getting from my tilt. I use it as primary pc - email, web, movies, word, excel, etc..
I tell people it is a mini computer with a phone added on as an afterthought. That is why with comes with such a crappy phone interface. I downloaded a new skin and it looks and works excellent.
Will
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Call ending speed can be instant. Use Kaiser Tweak / Advanced Config tool to change this.
I noticed a marked improvement since I use some of the SKTools utilities like:
- Optimize! http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_feat.html
- FreeUP RAM Service http://s-k-tools.com/?m_freeuprams.html
- Registry optimization http://s-k-tools.com/?/sktools/m_regopt.html
It has many other features and you can download a trial. It's really worth a try.
dear all,
how can you say that the kaiser isnot slow ?
I use PIE to read this forum, this thread takes 30 to 40 sec to load for 470 kB, while it takes few seconds to dowload bigger files !
I only use pie,tt7 and outlook sync for contacts and appointments.
I also tested 3 roms and tried to tweak some settings, without getting a normal speed.
kaiser is definitively a slow computer with a phone.
basic phones are more responsives than kaiser on many bundled applications.
I do think that kaiser has a lake of something... Maybe some drivers are missing, because if you look at the internal chipset used inside the kaiser, it should very very more powerfull
Call ending speed can be instant. Use Kaiser Tweak / Advanced Config tool to change this.
Please enlighten me, because I hate this. I have to push the button multiples times to disconnect. I have SK Tools as well. It has many good features, unfortunately some of the things it recommends tweaking I have idea what those things are for. I need the cheat sheet for invalid registry entries and values.
I do experience what you describe and I've tried many different ROMs, right now I'm using Garmin.Dk 8 without Manila2d and all the "speed fixes" available.
It's just like that, it has Windows...
But on the other hand, I like that, because it makes it very customizable.
Depends on what you value most.
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Hello,
seconds. Then, if I dial a number quickly, it "forget" some buttons I pushed. I need to dial my number slowly for the phone to take each button I push ... This is very frustrating !Thanks !
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I had the same issue with dialing numbers. It pissed me off so much I bought an iPhone. I don't have issues with dialing numbers now. I really miss running custom ROMs though.
The iPhone has a lot of other issues, I put up with them because the web browsing experience is better and I can dial without loosing numbers. I wish HTC would get it together, they are very close... I tried a Sprint HTC Touch Pro for a couple of days and couldn't get used to the missing dpad.
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I had the same issue with dialing numbers. It pissed me off so much I bought an iPhone. I don't have issues with dialing numbers now. I really miss running custom ROMs though.
The iPhone has a lot of other issues, I put up with them because the web browsing experience is better and I can dial without loosing numbers. I wish HTC would get it together, they are very close... I tried a Sprint HTC Touch Pro for a couple of days and couldn't get used to the missing dpad.
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And you just hang around the Kaiser forum with your iPhone 'cause you miss us?
dear Spaul,
Windows is not the problem... Other htc phones have Windows and are fast. i.e. TYTN I is faster !
Problem is software, maybe drivers or hardware layer
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And you just hang around the Kaiser forum with your iPhone 'cause you miss us?
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He has to keep up because he realizes the other 99% of the WM functionality is missing on his new phone and he'll want to come back.
Same thing here
Yeah I experience exactly the same things with mine. I'm not going out the custom ROM path, since it's a company phone. After having tried all sorts of things, I've kind of just accepted its slowness.
But one thing is for sure. After using first the s710, and the the tytn-ii, I'm 95% sure that my next phone is not going to be a HTC, unless I see some very convincing real life demo of the device.