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I've been running the clean version of Crossbow for some time now. Other than a few minor hiccups (and I mean minor) it is as slick and good looking as hoped.
Now for the fun... I know that the extended ROM does NOT run on Crossbow, though I'm not sure why. I would like to know. The loving wife extended rom unlocker DOES work, but it also causes the creation of a second storage card folder when the TIF and inbox attachments are stored on the storage card, and it renames the actual storage card "storage card 2".
I'm not really sure of the behavior of the extended ROM because I've never paid much attention to it. The questions are as follows:
1) Does the extended ROM write to the OS side of the ROM without affecting the memory available for additional programs?
2) Are the programs able to be removed though the CP applet?
3) Is it possible to write my own extended ROM and flash it to my device without weird or disastrous consequences? (I can always make an ext. ROM with my favorite programs and not use a whole lot of room on my Mini SD card.) I would simply keep a copy of the unlocker on both MiniSD cards.
I know some of these questions may have been asked before, but some have not. I would really like to clean off my MiniSD's to carry a few more songs and tidy things up a bit. Help from the gurus or those already running WM6 is what I'm after. Thanks in advance.
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Hi Guys,
I am a bit of a newbie (just got the phone yesterday), so I have a few basic questions -- please bare with me.
1) Has anyone setup an SSH client on their HTC Kaiser/AT&T Tilt? If so what is a good client to get? Is PuTTYPocket good or one of the clients from the OpenSSH project? Is there a preferred one or one that's known to work better?
2) Second item is.. where do most people choose to install all of there files and applications? For example, right now I have a 1 GB MicroSD card in the phone. Are there certain things I should try and save/install directly to the phone and others that should go on the MicroSD card? Should everything go on the MicroSD card?
3) Is a 1GB MicroSD card enough? Obviously if I want lots of little movies or mp3 files I will run into a limit -- but that aside.. say if I choose to put on the SSH client, some other apps, TomTom 6.0 etc. Do I need more?
Thanks for any assistance.
-Steven
I'm interested in these questions as well. This is my first Windows Mobile device and it is unclear if some applications "need" to be on the device storage as it is on PalmOS. Are there pros/cons to device storage vs. memory card? Maybe there is an "idiot's guide to storage on WM" out there...
As for SSH, I've downloaded several and tested them a bit, but have not made a decision yet. Thus far, I've tried pocketputty, zaTelnet Pro, MobileVT, and mToken, with pocketputty being the worst, mToken the best, and the others about the same. I'm not as happy with any of them as the application pssh I was using on Palm, however.
usually programs that kind of directly deal with the phone and are accessed alot. go on the phone.
tomtom which has large files for maps stick on the memory card.
cant help you with the other ques.
I use and like PocketTTY, but there is also a java script that works nice. I'll attach and believe it's freeware, if not, a mod can delete.
As far as where to put programs, that is of course, subjective. For me it depends on how much memory the device has, how big a card you have and how much space is needed for the programs you wish. Also, what all do you wish to have with you? Music, video, games, etc....that has to be taken into consideration. Being this is the Kaiser/Tilt section, we have 128mb for storage with a little more than 100mb for personal programs, and capacity for up to 8gb on the card. On my 8525 I had everything on a 2gb card and left as much room on the PDA as I could. This time I think I'll put all the programs on the PDA and use the card for everything else. We'll see how it goes.
I'm finding the memory management in my MDA compact iv very frustrating. I know it's not phone specific but more to do with how windows itself manages the memory but it's annoying to have 8Gb of internal memory available yet i can't run my youtube app because i have less than 8mb (in fact i'm down to 2.84Mb) of free storage memory and down to 22.02Mb of program memory!
Some of the applications i've installed, i read that they couldn't be installed on internal memory or else they wouldn't work so that too decreases the amount of memory available for applications such as youtube.
Does anyone know of any workarounds for better memory management? i'm now considering a new "lite" rom installation but didn't really want to mess around with that as i've not tried it before.
cheers all.
Ever tried Oxios Hibernate?
http://www.oxios.com/memory/
You have set the "X" button to close programs rather than minimise I presume?? No point having lots of programs running in the background unless absolutely neccessary.
BTW, most programs will run from the Int Storage....just try them at install (if they definately don't allow you to install there, then they won't let you!!) Of course, if your not happy with them running from Int Stor then remove them and install to your device
i have all programs closed down but still am low on memory.....the only option now really is to do a hard reset, re-install my progs to the internal and see what does or doesn't work from there........
I save all my programs and install them on the internal drive. I am still getting a low memory warning. Are there any specific places I need to look , i.e Windows folder, etc.., where I can remove useless files? I'm afraid to delete some important things.
I have an Alltel Touch Diamond. Thanks in advance.
Low memory warning is not about the storage where you save your stuff & apps. Its the RAM of the diamond. To solve the issue you'll probably have to install another ROM with lower mem usage or close TF3D before running your heavy apps.
HI THERE
the program pocket mechanic solve me a lot of that issue .
after installing the prog. i removed some what of files to the intenal storage .
it did work for me just great /
windows folder/directory
open windows directory. goto Opera folder. goto images folder. any files that aren't jpg or png (meaning files that will have an opera logo in front of them) are deletable. If you use opera a lot and have never done this, there may be many. Also Windows/Messaging. this stores info from all emails, even when you delete, info is left here- delete all old stuff. If you feel iffy about trying any of this, create a folder in your internal storage to cut these files into, and if you have any trouble or do something wrong, you can cut/copy them right bsck (but these sre things i do to keep memory clear). Also, ClearTemp is an AWESOME HELPFUL program (and free). I think v1.21 is the latest, but after 3rd day of using it, it had recovered about 10mb of storage memory. (set it up properly, din't just hit 'clean'). good luck.
Lastly, some early diamonds (roms) had a known issue with unrecoverable storage memory, so last case scenario, update to newest official rom.
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Low memory warning is not about the storage where you save your stuff & apps. Its the RAM of the diamond. To solve the issue you'll probably have to install another ROM with lower mem usage or close TF3D before running your heavy apps.
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au contraire. memory on diamond is partitioned 3ways (storage memory, program memory, internal storage)
when you get a 'main memory low' msg, it's usually because your storage memory (not RAM), and not program memory, has dropped to <1mb. not your operating memory or program memory.
UgXvibe said:
I save all my programs and install them on the internal drive. I am still getting a low memory warning. Are there any specific places I need to look , i.e Windows folder, etc.., where I can remove useless files? I'm afraid to delete some important things.
I have an Alltel Touch Diamond. Thanks in advance.
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I dealt with this on my first diamond. Had to return it - it is an issue on early diamonds, known by htc (storage not erasing things it should, regardless of user settings). A search will turn up a handful of other threds on this topic.
Thanks for all the replies.. here are screens of what I'm talking about.
As you can see I have a ton of storage on the Internal but 1Mb left on Device... If you still agree that I should follow the advice above I will do that. Just wanted to clarify what I was talking about.
thank you scottspa74
I have exactly the same problem with storage memory and what scottspa74 proposed just gave me the solution to my problem .
Thank you very much
Well, I also found that if you have taken a lot of pictures and video with the phone it takes up a ton of device storage. Try deleting big video files or transferring them somewhere else.
Hi,
I have had my Kaiser since it was released over 2 years ago.
I have a 8gb MicroSD that i try to install my apps onto, but i always seem to run out of 'device application storage space'
So my question is, what are you doing to stop this from happening.
Can we use this thread to create a list of apps that are best to run on the device and which ones can be run on the storage card?
Thanks
PS. im also tempted to try a different rom to increase space, any suggestions as im running the official 6.1 from my carrier.
GLO said:
Hi,
I have had my Kaiser since it was released over 2 years ago.
I have a 8gb MicroSD that i try to install my apps onto, but i always seem to run out of 'device application storage space'
So my question is, what are you doing to stop this from happening.
Can we use this thread to create a list of apps that are best to run on the device and which ones can be run on the storage card?
Thanks
PS. im also tempted to try a different rom to increase space, any suggestions as im running the official 6.1 from my carrier.
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There are a lot of good roms, just look over in the Kaiser Rom Development, read signatures to find out what a lot of people are using. Everyone has there own personal preference.
As far as what to install on SD Card and what to install on main memory, it goes kinda like this. If it is a dedicated program that you need to rely on, like G-Alarm or SPB Time for example, install it in main memory. If it is a program that runs on the today screen or in the background, install it to main memory. Programs like SPB Mobile Shell, WAD2, Palringo and other chat software can go to main memory. Anything else unless the programs says otherwise, can go on the SD Card. I always ask myself this, if my SD Card failed what are my few must have important apps that I need to make it through the rest of the day/week? I always put my entertainment crap on the SD, and only my important apps on the main storage.
Hope that steers you in the right direction.
PS: How do you have 285 post, been a member since 2007, and are still using a OEM 6.1 ROM? You are missing the good stuff my friend!
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PS: How do you have 285 post, been a member since 2007, and are still using a OEM 6.1 ROM? You are missing the good stuff my friend!
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Yes, 285 posts since 07 driven by various questions and answers for others.
Rom swapping was limited to 6.0 to 6.1 official '3'rom,
Have tried numerous UI's including SPB Mobile Shell, Winterface etc but ended up reverting back to my basic stable set up. (ref my sig)
Had toyed with HTC Cube but a hard reset made me realize it it was more novelty than useful. had a fiddle with M2D but it was only a cab and not fully integrated into the ROM, so i ditched it.
But now that im hitting the max storage again, im tempted to play with a new rom.
edit: just checked the Memory status and actually is the Storage Memory that i keep maxing out, not the Program storage (28Mb free) as i originally thought. I use memaid daily to regain space, but i guess its not enough!
GLO said:
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edit: just checked the Memory status and actually is the Storage Memory that i keep maxing out, not the Program storage (28Mb free) as i originally thought. I use memaid daily to regain space, but i guess its not enough!
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That is exactly the problem I'm having. I just recently bought one of these phones (used with preloaded apps) & it's kind of frustrating to see the storage memory near max (127MB).. I have deleted or moved some things to my removable memory card. I got it down to about 12MB of free space, but it seems to decrease daily!? right now its down to 6mb of free space in just 1 day & i have not added any apps. I'm confused how this is happening
Can you or anyone help?
Clear Temp Internet Files.
ClearTemp by Vicott - v1.3.0.1
Also follow earlier post regards installing software only things that need to be loaded @ startup & home screen replacements "Shells" need to be installed to device memory, rest place on SD card.
stylez said:
....ClearTemp by Vicott - v1.3.0.1[/URL]
Also follow earlier post regards installing software only things that need to be loaded @ startup & home screen replacements "Shells" need to be installed to device memory, rest place on SD card.
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Thanks stylez. I had already cleared/deleted my temp files a few days ago using that app. In the meantime though my free storage space (RAM) continues to decrease even when I'm not actively using any app!?? This is what puzzles me the most. Out of 128 MB ram, I'm now down to ~3.5 MB! Do you know what could be causing this or what to do? There are only 7 programs listed in my storage memory. Should i remove all of them except maybe "MS classic blue" (whatever that is).
When it boots up, the screen displays "TPC Elite ROM series" & then series of digits & text in the lower right corner of the screen. I'm new to using pocketpc's but it seems this device is running some mods? I have installed:
WM 6.5 (professional)
ROM version: TPC_V11_MEGA WWE (11/04/09)
touchflo v3.0
s2u2 (v2.04)
CHome editor (v1.6 beta)
titanium weather
Aebutton plus (v2.6.6.1)
& a host of other apps some of which I understand their function & some I don't.
Also a few days ago I was able to move some apps from the phone's storage
memory to my storage card. I was only able to move 2 or apps, but couldn't move others. Whenever I tried moving or deleting files/apps it wouldn't allow me to do so. I used total commander ce (v2.51) to do this. I have "file explorer" installed, but it seems less robust & have fewer features.
Any suggestions on how to move these apps or delete unwanted files?
thanks all.
kgj said:
Thanks stylez. I had already cleared/deleted my temp files a few days ago using that app. In the meantime though my free storage space (RAM) continues to decrease even when I'm not actively using any app!?? This is what puzzles me the most. Out of 128 MB ram, I'm now down to ~3.5 MB! Do you know what could be causing this or what to do? There are only 7 programs listed in my storage memory. Should i remove all of them except maybe "MS classic blue" (whatever that is).
When it boots up, the screen displays "TPC Elite ROM series" & then series of digits & text in the lower right corner of the screen. I'm new to using pocketpc's but it seems this device is running some mods? I have installed:
WM 6.5 (professional)
ROM version: TPC_V11_MEGA WWE (11/04/09)
touchflo v3.0
s2u2 (v2.04)
CHome editor (v1.6 beta)
titanium weather
Aebutton plus (v2.6.6.1)
& a host of other apps some of which I understand their function & some I don't.
Also a few days ago I was able to move some apps from the phone's storage
memory to my storage card. I was only able to move 2 or apps, but couldn't move others. Whenever I tried moving or deleting files/apps it wouldn't allow me to do so. I used total commander ce (v2.51) to do this. I have "file explorer" installed, but it seems less robust & have fewer features.
Any suggestions on how to move these apps or delete unwanted files?
thanks all.
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Ok now i know what the problem is "as have ROM info" It's deblogger solution is you can't delete folder Deblogger use Task Manager and kill cprog.exe then delete
Thanks stylez, but I thought I read somewhere that cprog.exe file is an integral part of WM6.5 & utilizing the phone & killing or deleting it could be bad?
have you deleted this file from your phone? if so is there some other that replaces its functionality or is it even necessary?
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Thanks stylez, but I thought I read somewhere that cprog.exe file is an integral part of WM6.5 & utilizing the phone & killing or deleting it could be bad?
have you deleted this file from your phone? if so is there some other that replaces its functionality or is it even necessary?
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Delete the deblogger folder, as the solution says it's on root, you may not be able to delete without stopping the process cprog.exe it will have no effect on cprog.exe in the Windows Directory.
I dont have deblogger in my ROM as no Mega M2D and all recent releases don't as TPC cooked the ROM before we knew the issue existed.
Thanks for the tips. i followed the instructions, checked my free space & it was up to 76MB at 11am when i deleted it.
Do you know what these other softwares are for that I listed? I tried researching them, but am not sure if they are critical or what I can do to move them if not? (using total commander did not work)(
kgj said:
Thanks for the tips. i followed the instructions, checked my free space & it was up to 76MB at 11am when i deleted it.
Do you know what these other softwares are for that I listed? I tried researching them, but am not sure if they are critical or what I can do to move them if not? (using total commander did not work)(
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That's cool happy to help.
You can't move programs cooked in ROM "Read Only Memory" files
Aebutton plus (v2.6.6.1) is a button mapper allows multi function per button press "very handy"
titanium weather Application for CHome weather
CHome editor (v1.6 beta) Allows moving panels, making new panels etc in CHome
s2u2 (v2.04) Lock screen
touchflo v2.0 M2D homescreen
thanks again stylez!
ok 1 month later I have the same problem! i deleted the deblogger folder. & i may have done another reinstall since then, but it has resurfaced. is there any way to make this a read only file instead of deleting it?