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Often times I have noticed with my Tilt that I will lose the signal (simply by hitting a dead spot in the service), and it will not come back until I do a soft reset. First, it shows the indicator that it is looking for a signal, but after about 10 seconds it switches to an indicator with an exclamation point, showing no signal. It never regains a signal after that. Once we get to a place where I know AT&T service works, I will check my wife's phone at that very moment, and she has full signal. We're both on AT&T btw. I know it's not the service, cause her phone never does this. If she hits a dead spot, as soon as we're out of it her phone picks service right back up. I have the stock AT&T ROM that shipped with my Tilt.
Anyone have any ideas why it quits looking for a signal after it loses it?
jackjohnson said:
Often times I have noticed with my Tilt that I will lose the signal (simply by hitting a dead spot in the service), and it will not come back until I do a soft reset. First, it shows the indicator that it is looking for a signal, but after about 10 seconds it switches to an indicator with an exclamation point, showing no signal. It never regains a signal after that. Once we get to a place where I know AT&T service works, I will check my wife's phone at that very moment, and she has full signal. We're both on AT&T btw. I know it's not the service, cause her phone never does this. If she hits a dead spot, as soon as we're out of it her phone picks service right back up. I have the stock AT&T ROM that shipped with my Tilt.
Anyone have any ideas why it quits looking for a signal after it loses it?
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Ive noticed the same thing.
Not sure of why this happens, but did find an easier work-around than soft reset.
If you go into your phone options, under the Network tab, you can manually tell the phone to search for the network.
I've also had that problem.
I'm not sure wich fix is faster, but using the Wireless Manager to turn the phone off and then back on also takes care of the problem.
hey, i also have that problem.. i'm using a tilt with one of dutythroys roms, with the new .17 radio.. thought maybe that was the problem cuz i never really noticed it with the .11 radio. btw, you dont need to soft reset, just give it a minute or two and it'll come back
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I noticed that after messing with KaiserTweak and enabling HSDPA. I live in Minneapolis where HSDPA is now enabled. However, I frequently travel west towards Alexandria, and once I leave the metro area, no HSDPA. If I don't go into the comm manager and disable 3G, I have no phone service at all. Once I disable 3G, I regain phone service.
Ok good, so I'm not the only one.
Thanks for the tip about turning the phone on and off in wireless manager, rather than doing a soft reset. That is, indeed quicker. However, we shouldn't have to do that at all.
I've noticed this a lot when driving home from work. I'm thinking that it's probably because at work I'm in a 3G area, and on the way home I lose it. Is there anyway to disable 3G altogether? Or does anyone know of a tweak that will keep the phone continuously searching before it gives up?
I have that same problem with my TILT, but I also had it with the 5150. It's been around for a while.
Bump again. C'mon people - you gotta give us something. Is no one else having this problem?
For the record, I didn't have this problem with the stock HTC ROM on a different phone.
Having this problem sometimes on a T-Mobile Vario 3, although mine seems to not recognise the sim card after it looses signal. I had thought it related to the phone being cold...
I have the same problems but only with 3G on. When I select GSM only no problems at all. I updated to .17 and wonder whether that's the problem since I don't recall any issues with .11
Thank the lord I thought it was just me. I made a thread about my blue tooth causing it but I realized it is my drive home that does it. I hit an area with no 3G and it goes out.
I have the 10 button comm manager installed and was wondering if that was the culprit. It is weird because EDGE will switch to GSM OR GPRS (not sure the correct name) when 3G is off but 3G will not switch to the others. Does anyone without the 10 button wireless manager have this issue.
Had similiar issues while traveling in certain parts of southern China. Try upgrading the radio from ver. 1.27.12.11 to 1.27.12.17. Follow this link for more info...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349528
I am redoing the phone back to the stock condition of how it arrived. I will tell you if it goes back to normal for me.
I will update you tomorrow becuase it is a certain part of downtown Houston that cuases it to go out .
I put the original OS/ROM I am not sure what you call it. For the first time in a long time it switched from 3G to EDGE. I wonder how many of us complaining have the 3G ten button communication manager. I will let you all know more tomorrow after my drive home from work.
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I am redoing the phone back to the stock condition of how it arrived. I will tell you if it goes back to normal for me.
I will update you tomorrow because it is a certain part of downtown Houston that causes it to go out .
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Did you see this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344273
can everyone who has this problem start posting their Radio Versions ... please
I used to have this problem with the Tmobile SDA (at that time it was driving people nutts) and that phone did not even have 3G. I did experience the same problem with Tilt (on tmo sim) Radio Version .11, and since tmo usa does not have 3G anyways, I just changed my phone band to GSM and the problem does not exist anymore.
Radio 1.27.12.11
Protocol 22.45.88.07H
in German o2 and T-Mobile network, problem persists after repair trial of HTC.
So 24 hours after redoing the phone back to its original state the 3g problem is gone. I watched it switch from 3G to edge to G all in 24 hours. I will keep you posted if it stays this way.
So basically the big change I had was removing the 10 button comm manager.
I was having a problem that I think is similar, or the same. When I travel from Edge to G my phone will ring and it indicates "connected" but I can't hear the person and they can't hear me. I soft-reset and the phone works again, until I travel back from G to Edge. I ended up reflashing to the original HTC Shipped ROM and I am waiting to see the results.
I am not sure of my radio version when it was flaky. I am using 1.27.12.11 now.
I've noticed the problem described in the original post maybe three times since I bought my TyTN II late in September. It's always been when I'm travelling that this happens. Fortunately I've not missed any calls as a result and switching to 'Flight Mode' and back to 'Phone' in Comm Manager (the standard HTC version) works around it for me. All a very standard setup here so I don't think the problem is a result of any customisations (although I do have HSDPA enabled in settings).
hi everybody, somewhat new to this forum and really enjoying it
i've came across a problem with my att tilt and searched for about 2 days straight looking for a solution..i couldnt find one
so a little history of what i've done with my tilt..
-removed all of att programs by 'clear storage' and then pushing the soft reset before it loads
-downloaded the htc home plugin, htc home customizer, wizard dialer, kaiser tweak with the new xml file from dec 2007, and i have a black theme and a san francisco bridge theme that i switch back to
now the problem is I CANT MAKE/RECEIVE PHONE CALLS/TEXT
one thing i notice is that the network or service it is using (G, E, or 3G) is mostly on E and that is when i cannot make make or received calls or text, even with full bars. i've never had this problem before until about a week now
the last thing i did to my phone was download the new dec 2007 xml file for kaiser tweak. the phone worked fine for about a week until my problem occured
the only time i can get my phone to work is when it is in 3G or G and i rarely see those being used on my phone.
i've tried clear storage a bunch of times to see if it would change but it doesnt
i believe this isnt a network problem because everyone in my house has att, i can only thing its a phone problem
if anyone has any solutions or comments please help me out
i've had this phone since thanksgiving so worst case scenario, i turn it in to htc to get a new one
thanks
anybody ever run into this problem or anything similar with their tilt?
Did you allow the network config tool to run after the first reset? Are you using a custom rom or the default?
what radio are you running?
im not sure what the network config tool is and im using a default rom
im not sure what radio im using, how do i got about finding out what radio im using?
If you don't mind losing all of your data do a hard reset (hold the two soft keys and press the sytlus in the bottom of the phone) Go ahead and set up the device...once this is done a dialogue box should pop up saying something about Autoconfig will take place, or something like that. Let this proceed all on its own...it should after its done ask if you want to soft-reset now, select yes and you should be in business.
what are the two soft keys?
and also..does it matter if i have a simcard in the phone or not?
is the 'clear storage' the same as the hard reset?
hard reset is to hold the two soft keys and the stylus button on the bottom
what are the two soft keys?
Clear Storage essentially is, but mentally for me its different . In any event the soft keys are the unmarked keys directly to the right of your green call button and to the left of the red end button. After autoconfig/customization takes place...it probably will load all the crap back on the device, just FYI. If you truly want to get rid of stuff, you'll probably want to start researching ultra-clean roms, but from the sounds of things you're not quite ready to get into that yet, and you can screw your device if you don't read up on things properly.
i've done the hard reset and let everything load after that..i have all the att bloat ware..but i didnt see a autoconfig for the network
im still having the same problem
my service/network only works on E, whenever it is on G or 3G, its one bar and when i try to call or text, the phone disconnects and goes to E
any other advice?
Hmm, how old is your sim card?
I had the same problem. I had a few 3rd party applications installed. I called Att, they tried calling themselves with obviously no luck (busy signal, or straight to voicemail). I took out the sim card and tried my 2 year old phone and it worked fine. They sent me a replacement 2 days ago and it has been working fine since.
my sim card is about 2 years old i think
it looks like im gonna have to get a replacement
thanks for your help guys
I'd try a new sim card first...had a similar problem with my kaiser at first, but not quite the same. It may save you the days of a non-working unit. Sim cards are free and quick (just go to your local att store)
i used a friends sim card..same thing
i tried calling att TWICE and they said it might be a network problem and told me to call back later???
its obvious i need a new phone
who should i contact and what should i do..im trying to return my phone to get a working one
pilly wonka said:
i used a friends sim card..same thing
i tried calling att TWICE and they said it might be a network problem and told me to call back later???
its obvious i need a new phone
who should i contact and what should i do..im trying to return my phone to get a working one
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How long have you had your phone?
If it is under 30 days, go back to an AT&T Store (even if you bought it via phone or online) they will exchange it for you. If you don't have an account, MAKE SURE you take your receipt. If you are an AT&T customer you don't even have to bother with the receipt, they will just look up your account for you.
If you are an AT&T customer (may also apply if your not) and have had your phone over 30 days, then you have to call warranty exchange department. 1-800-801-1101
They will go through a few steps with you, then will make arrangements to send you out a new phone.
BEWARE:
Make sure you have LOTS of free time when you call, you WILL be on the phone forever lol.
I am on my 5th Tilt, I hope you have better luck than I have so far
*BUMP* I recently came across the same problem and I am only able to send and recieve text messages. I can not recieve or send calls but I get a new voicemail notification when 1 is recieved.... HELP!!!
Help! Unlocked Tilt Problems
i recently purchased a tilt online and it is brand new everything is fine with the phone but i unlocked the phone because my company switched from att to tmobile, so before i unlocked the phone my att 3g sim card worked fine with the phone, wifi worked fine 3g icon came up in network bubble at the top taskbar...but after i unlocked the phone and placed the tmobile sim card in the tilt, no Edge or gpsr icon shows up at the top next to the signal strength icon and when i click on wifi and go online everything works fine but after i go back to commanager to turn off the wifi....the wifi icon doesnnt go away from the top taskbar..its just shows the no signal wifi icon when the wifi is off. So then i took the tmobile sim card out and placed the cingular sim back in the phone and when i click on the wifi button and then press it again in commanager to turn wifi off the icon, it goes away like normal....so is there something wrong with my tmobile sim card? which is why its not showing any edge or gprs icons for some reason? even though i dont have a data plan i should see when i am in an edge area...what is annoying me the most is when i place this tmobile sim in the tilt, the wifi icon wont go away when the wifi is being turned off in wireless manager. PLz help this is very strange and i cant seem to find out how to gain these icons and lose the wifi icon when wifi isnt on.
wow are u serious nobody has had prblems with the wifi icon not going away or any other icons not going away when there not supposed to be turned on? ..this is a huge forum i know i can find someone to help me figure out why this tmmobile sim card is doing this to my phone and not allowing the wifi icon to go away from the top task bar when i go into comm manager and press the wifi off button it doesnt work...the wifi radio itself turns off and theres no data being sent to the phone from the wireless router but the icon stays on the phone and the only way to get rid of the icon is to go in comm manager and press the phone button to turn of all connections to my phone. This problem only occurs with my current tmobile sim card which is being used in an ATT 8925 unlocked tilt PLZ somebody help me get rid of this problem
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wow are u serious nobody has had prblems with the wifi icon not going away or any other icons not going away when there not supposed to be turned on? ..this is a huge forum i know i can find someone to help me figure out why this tmmobile sim card is doing this to my phone and not allowing the wifi icon to go away from the top task bar when i go into comm manager and press the wifi off button it doesnt work...the wifi radio itself turns off and theres no data being sent to the phone from the wireless router but the icon stays on the phone and the only way to get rid of the icon is to go in comm manager and press the phone button to turn of all connections to my phone. This problem only occurs with my current tmobile sim card which is being used in an ATT 8925 unlocked tilt PLZ somebody help me get rid of this problem
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I am not one to help because I am also a noob and your issues are not ones I have seen. BUT - let me give you what help I can:
Recommendations -
1. use punctuation.
2. use concrete sentences
3. specifically tell what you did and enumerate each problem separately
4. indicate what ROM you are using
5. indicate what changes you made to your phone AFTER you went to the TMOBILE card
Now - here are some guesses -
1. you had an AT&T phone with AT&T connection strings - and you think that unlocking the phone and simply putting in a TMOBILE card will make the phone work?
My guess is that you are going to have to change some data connection strings at least? AT&T is not going to allow you to use media net to surf the internet with no contract using a TMobile card.
Remember - you are asking people to use their spare time to help you fix YOUR screwup. Make it easy for them to read and help you.
Bill
ok so i have a brand new ATT tilt regular htc/att rom no flash upgrades nothing. So i had to unlock the phone to use it with my tmobile service. After i unlocked the phone and placed this tmobile sim in the phone something strange with the wifi happens, when i turn on the wifi the icon comes up like normal on the top taskbar, and when i turn the wifi off after use the icon doesnt go away....this is strange and never happened when i had my old cingular sim in the phone...is there any way to fix the icon and make it go away? or am i going to have to turn off all services in the commmanager by pressin the phone button to take the icon away whenever i use wifi. HAs anyone unlocked there phone and had these strange problems happen before with a TMOBILE SIM CARD?
moegdaog said:
ok so i have a brand new ATT tilt regular htc/att rom no flash upgrades nothing. So i had to unlock the phone to use it with my tmobile service. After i unlocked the phone and placed this tmobile sim in the phone something strange with the wifi happens, when i turn on the wifi the icon comes up like normal on the top taskbar, and when i turn the wifi off after use the icon doesnt go away....this is strange and never happened when i had my old cingular sim in the phone...is there any way to fix the icon and make it go away? or am i going to have to turn off all services in the commmanager by pressin the phone button to take the icon away whenever i use wifi. HAs anyone unlocked there phone and had these strange problems happen before with a TMOBILE SIM CARD?
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You should not start more than one thread asking for help - you not only will not get helped - you will need an asbestos suit...
Here is your other thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396565
BTW: you are still not using puctuation to its best use and carriage returns to make your questions identifiable and easy to read.
Duplicate / redundant threads merged.
If you want us to help you, please take the time to use punctuation.
Thanks!
whk said:
I am not one to help because I am also a noob and your issues are not ones I have seen. BUT - let me give you what help I can:
Recommendations -
1. use punctuation.
2. use concrete sentences
3. specifically tell what you did and enumerate each problem separately
4. indicate what ROM you are using
5. indicate what changes you made to your phone AFTER you went to the TMOBILE card
Now - here are some guesses -
1. you had an AT&T phone with AT&T connection strings - and you think that unlocking the phone and simply putting in a TMOBILE card will make the phone work?
My guess is that you are going to have to change some data connection strings at least? AT&T is not going to allow you to use media net to surf the internet with no contract using a TMobile card.
Remember - you are asking people to use their spare time to help you fix YOUR screwup. Make it easy for them to read and help you.
Bill
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Very well said...
moegdaog:
run this cab file on your phone and after doing a Soft Reset, go to Start>Settings>Connections>Connection Setup and choose T-Mobile from the list if the program doesnt run on its own.
Thanks to Dutty for putting this together for us to share with the ones not familiar with it.
that didnt work...all it did was add tmobile data to my connections. My wifi icon still doesnt go away from top taskbar when i turn wifi off. Since i unlocked this att phone an im using a tmobile sim card, do u think i should install the official tmobile windows mobile 6 for HTC phones? seems that this tmobile sim card is the culperate of making this wifi error, because when i take this sim out and place an old cingular sim in the phone it doesnt do this error. Wifi turns off when its suppose to and no icons hang around. If anybody has ever heard of this problem plz help...i dont want to go to the last resort of switching to WM 6.1 right now or something i like WM6
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that didnt work...all it did was add tmobile data to my connections. My wifi icon still doesnt go away from top taskbar when i turn wifi off. Since i unlocked this att phone an im using a tmobile sim card, do u think i should install the official tmobile windows mobile 6 for HTC phones? seems that this tmobile sim card is the culperate of making this wifi error, because when i take this sim out and place an old cingular sim in the phone it doesnt do this error. Wifi turns off when its suppose to and no icons hang around. If anybody has ever heard of this problem plz help...i dont want to go to the last resort of switching to WM 6.1 right now or something i like WM6
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I will bet that you are not going to get help -
1. you use run on sentences that are VERY difficult to read
2. you do not specifically state your problem or goal
3. you state "that did not work" you do not QUOTE what you were trying so no one knows what THAT is (although I am suspecting that you ran the suggested cab file)
You need to:
1. use EXPLICIT SHORT sentences
2. engage the CARRIAGE RETURN KEY
3. enumerate your issues
4. tell us what you want to happen - we CANNOT guess what you have hosed up
5. Not an expert - so you will need someone else to tell you that this is true - but each company "brands the device and makes it so that the phone works with their system. If you are leaving AT&T and going with TMOBILE I suspect that you MAY need to flash to a ROM that works specifically with TMOBILE BUT
SPECIFICALLY STATE what you want - for example:
I have an HTC TILT - it was an AT&T phone and I want it to work on TMOBILE -
Currently - nothing works on the phone and here is what i have done.....
or
Currently everything works on the phone EXCEPT...
Just my opinion and I am going to quit responding to your message (which you may actually appreciate) as it is obvious that they have no effect.
Bill
dood whk im not in english class....im on an online forum trying to get help to fix my phone..get a clue or get a life cuz obviously u have nothing better to do but tell people to use punctuation when im obviously not worried about how i type in a freakin forum u jerkoff...and for have this thread up for a week and getting limited help on what i ACTUALLY NEED HELP ON MY ATT TILT AND WHY A TMOBILE SIM MAKES MY WIFI ICON NOT GO AWAY WHEN IM DONE WITH WIFI AND TRY TO TURN IT OFF..THE DATA STOPS BUT THE ICON DOESNT GO AWAY FROM THE TOP OF MY PHONE...IT JUST STOPS SEARCHING FOR SERVICE WHEN I PRESS THE WIFI OFF BUTTON...there, so i guess i need to use a new rom and flash a radio or wutever that is....that conection setup cab only put tmobile data in my conections. It did nothing to switch att defaults in the phone to tmobile, thnx anywayz guy who gave me that app....if anyone has had these issues with tmobile sims plz respond and not reply with english lessons
well no one is goin to read that type of garbage if its just one bigass blurb of words together...i'm with whk...and caps doesnt help either...maybe thats why no one wants to help u...and if u cant be bothered about the way u type...we cant be bothered to give u assistance ...just a headsup
well i solvd the problem myself by changing radios...thats all sommebody had to say..some of you arre a buncha idiots like whk....i didnt post this thread to get grammer lessons, i posted to get some damn help you morons so if u wana tell people how to type go to a fckin word proccessing forum u flamers
Good luck here in the forums, if you can't manage to follow something as basic as proper grammar and spelling, no one will bother reading what you have to say.
I for one, read MAYBE the first sentence in your posts apart from the last, and I'm certain I'm not alone.
and FYI, a better attitude will get you along ways here if you intend to stay. Your current attitude could likely result in a ban, and that causes issues when you need help.
dood....
You really need to read the links in my signature BEFORE you waste any more time on this forum.
I seriously suspect this is not the place for you as we actually expect you to have 3rd grade or better communications skills. Several members have attempted to help you but you don't seem to grasp simple concepts.
Thread closed as it is pointless. I would suggest you spend some time reading the forums if you really want to solve YOUR problems. The answers you seek can be found using search (and better language skills).
Thread closed due to rudeness!
moegdaog - consider this an official warning!
Please use polite language or you will be banned.
And in the future consider this simple fact:
No one can see your device so if you don't do your best to describe the problem no one can help you.
Also big chunks of continues text are hard to read and most people just give up.
Try to break up you posts in the future.
rom hd 3 blackstone wwe
rom date 9/30/08
rado 1.65.24.36
protocol version 25.94.40.06h
ok heres the problem i never have 3g on my phone, next to the signal bars theres always a E never 3g. if i go to phone setting in the setting menu i have to put it gsm mode on the band tab and gsm(1900+850) +umts(1900+850) because if i put it in auto i only get a signal around my hometown when i go to boston i loose signal. what happens is i get 3 beeps when after dialing a number. i get no incomming calls or outgoing nor any text or internet. i have flashed it back to att rom it was the same. i have called att when having ths problem and they told me i should have full signal and it should be 3g after about 30mins i was told i was doing something wrong. im just worried because i dont think that i have a warranty on the phone being a refurbshed tilt i got from att in may. am i just going to have to live with it or is there anything i can do. also i dont know if im just making a nubie mistake but i have been told 3g is where its at. so thats why m wondering.
thanks in advance
sam b.
After months of playing around with mine which has the same problem I was told the following by a member of OCAU here in Australia.
Formage said:
hey mate just pming you about that tytn, asked my uncle who actually works for one of the htc service centers and he claims the motherboards on those tytn's were riddles with issues, from lighting, to the touch panel not being detected and reception flaws, he claims it would probably need a new reversion motherboard
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I called up ATT and got the unlock code for my friends old HTC Tilt, unlocked and placed my T-Mobile SIM card in it which has an active voice + text + web account on it, with the default ATT Rom on it I was only able to set it up to do voice and text, whenever I tried using the Data connection for like let's say IE it would bring up a page for web2go, even after Flashing the phone with different ROMs I found on this great site and went through the auto communication setup for t-mobile, and still it only does voice + text, any ideas?
Right now here are my specs:
HTC Tilt
R: 1.70.19.09
G: 25.83.40.02H
D: 3.TPCElite
HardSPL 3.29
Let me know if you need any more info..
Call T-Mobile Support
Same thing happened to me last night. I called them this morning and they fixed it in about 10 minutes.
ok cool, so I should just call them up and they should be able to tell me what to do? or do you know how?
thanks in advance,
-b3ck
There should be a cab file somewhere that sets it all up for you.
I called up T-Mobile and talked with one of their non-supported device technicians (they have an entire support dept. of these guys) and it was actually on their end, they had to allow the IMEI to use the Data plan, because basically the phone was like Hi let me use the Data on the Network and the network was like what's your name? and the phone was like I'm John Smith, and the network was like your not on the list sorry.
So.. yea I was talking with a very smart tech support lady @ T-Mobile, she even mentioned these forums, she said she recommends it to people that have devices that aren't supported by t-mobile she even wanted to know which ROM I flashed onto my Tilt =)
Anyways everything is good to go now, thanks everyone!
-b3ck
Did you have to slip here a fiver?
ChumleyEX said:
Did you have to slip here a fiver?
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huh? I don't know what that means..
I have an issue. I just switched my entire plan over to the even more plus. On my old plan I had tzones and it works great for everything. Now I have the web2go. The problem is not getting the device to work on the internet2.voicestream.com, that works fine, but it is the battery drain. In a 4 hour period it will kill a full battery. When I remove the internet2 setting then the battery lasts all day. anyone else see this issue. BTW I'm using the JJblaster 23518 and radio 1.70.18.02
what do you all think, a bit odd for it to drain the battery that fast?
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huh? I don't know what that means..
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Doh it should have read, "did you slip HER a fiver" in other words, did you tip her?