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hello all i got my new tytn 2 a few days ago i also have the tytn i cant get my gmail to download to the phone useing my 3 ireland internet but it woks fine on the wifi i think its a setting that i am missing also i put the tomtom on it and ireland in not in the list for the one free map whats the next best things i can use
Has anyone got the connection settings for the Kaiser on 3 Ireland?
have a look at www.filesaveas.com they should have the connection details there
3 ireland and gmail
I can't get it to work also.. however it's nothing to do with settings... Its something to do with 3's network blocking pocket outlook express.. there's two work arounds... download the gmail java program which isn't blocked or else look through the threads there is someone else with a problem with at&t... there is a workaround using active sync and a free service from some online place.. using microsofts direct push... I have lost the link to the thread....
Have you managed to get Windows Live working on three.. or only when on WiFi.. this i believe has the same problem..
apn settings for 3 ireland are.. 3ireland.ie that's all you need... there's no username and password... for the rest of the setup.. run auto config.. and choose 3 in the uk.. then go back in and change the apn to 3ireland.ie
duncan_mccloud said:
I can't get it to work also.. however it's nothing to do with settings... Its something to do with 3's network blocking pocket outlook express.. there's two work arounds... download the gmail java program which isn't blocked or else look through the threads there is someone else with a problem with at&t... there is a workaround using active sync and a free service from some online place.. using microsofts direct push... I have lost the link to the thread....
Have you managed to get Windows Live working on three.. or only when on WiFi.. this i believe has the same problem..
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http://live.mail2web.com/ (note, your reply address will be @mail2web.com)
briggs81 said:
http://live.mail2web.com/ (note, your reply address will be @mail2web.com)
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another one... the one I meant.. found the link
mobipush.com
I don't know if this is a workaround, since I don't have a problem with pocket outlook, but I use Seven Beta to push my gmail account and my work email that uses google apps. It works flawlessly. Seven came out with a new beta version at the end of last year that is greatly improved, although their contact sync doesn't work properly yet. But this is a great way for me to get around using mail2web, or using pull for my email.
http://community.seven.com/forum/main.php
If you don't know about Seven, they develop email apps for phone companies. The native ATT Tilt software called Xpressmail is just the latest full Seven release.
I had BBC 4.0.0.67 working on my 8525, and a couple of days ago bought the HTC Tytn II (Kaiser). On initial startup, using the SIM from my 8525, the Tytn II set up my AT&T data connection. Phone calls and 3G internet surfing worked fine. The Tytn set my data connection to use isp.cingular and I added the wap.cingular connection. I use the wap.cingular connection.
I first tried Blackberry connect 4.0.0.90 which would not connect to the BB server even though I had a good 3G internet connection. I spent an hour on the phone with AT&T who finally said it was a Blackberry problem and they transferred me to Blackberry. I spent an hour on the phone with them, and they concluded it was AT&T. Blackberry support transferred me back to AT&T. The AT&T manager basically said: we don't support a non AT&T phone on Blackberry...and we don't support blackberry connect. I will point out everyone was very nice throughout this over 2 hour ordeal.
So I removed BBC .90, cleaned out all traces, and reloaded the 4(1).0.0.84 AT&T Tilt version from the HTC America site: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327695
and surprise, everything works perfectly on 3G and Edge. Blackberry BES for my work exchange email (synching email, calendar, contacts, and notes) and BIS for my personal email accounts. The Blackberry web browser also works fine.
At my firm I have the option to install BBC or Good. I have Good running but I'm wondering about BBC. Does it work like Good in that there is a separate application running that you need to open for mail/calendar/contacts, and it's not integrated into the native apps? Or is it like using a blackberry where everything is integrated. Thanks!
It's fully integrated into the native apps. BBC creates WM6 mail accounts for my exchange email and personal email accounts, the contacts are in the WM6 standard contacts database, and the appointments are in the standard calendar. All of these (except personal email) are bi-directionally syncronized with my exchange server.
do you have an AT&T blackberry data plan?
Yes. blackberry unlimited
Just one more question - for the corporate email, can you add an attachment to an email that is stored on the mobile unit?
caleymac said:
It's fully integrated into the native apps. BBC creates WM6 mail accounts for my exchange email and personal email accounts, the contacts are in the WM6 standard contacts database, and the appointments are in the standard calendar. All of these (except personal email) are bi-directionally syncronized with my exchange server.
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I read this in an article which is what prompted me to ask. What the article is describing sounds like Good, where it's a separate application.... "The new BlackBerry application suite will complement existing Windows Mobile 6 functionality and will appear as an icon on the screen, in the same manner as other third-party applications. Clicking the icon will prompt a suite of BlackBerry applications, including push e-mail functionality, calendar, address book and others, to load. "
Can one run both the Outlook and the Blackberry connect in the same device (Kaiser) at the same time?
Also, I attempted to install BB connect and I was prompted to first disable my password. I could not find a way to do that without first eliminating the Outlook connection to the Exchange server. Is there another way?
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I read this in an article which is what prompted me to ask. What the article is describing sounds like Good, where it's a separate application.... "The new BlackBerry application suite will complement existing Windows Mobile 6 functionality and will appear as an icon on the screen, in the same manner as other third-party applications. Clicking the icon will prompt a suite of BlackBerry applications, including push e-mail functionality, calendar, address book and others, to load. "
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My guess is the author was not familiar with the WM6 environment. There is a BB icon in settings and on the bottom of the today screen, but it brings up the bbc configuraton utility. The apps are fully integrated in the native wm6 apps.
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Can one run both the Outlook and the Blackberry connect in the same device (Kaiser) at the same time?
Also, I attempted to install BB connect and I was prompted to first disable my password. I could not find a way to do that without first eliminating the Outlook connection to the Exchange server. Is there another way?
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If you use BBC to synch contacts, appointments, notes, and tasks, you cannot also synch them via activesynch/WMDC or exchange sync. It's one method or the other. I have not set up a POP account on my Tytn because I have all my personal POP email go through the Blackberry Internet Service (BIS).
I'm not sure if you can exchange sync email and use BBC for email too.
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Just one more question - for the corporate email, can you add an attachment to an email that is stored on the mobile unit?
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Yes, but it seems like you are limited to 32K or smaller.
So, here's the deal. I also got this to work on my second day of having my TyTN II. I called AT&T and tricked them into thinking I had purchased an unlocked BB from a dealer and they switched me over to the BB Unlimited plan so I could use BES to connect to my corp email. I installed the PC software, and the handheld SW. And got everything working. It started downloading all my emails, inbox and sent. I chose not to sync my calendar until I confirmed it worked.
BUT...
Something very strange happened. Basically, it went thru my calendar, saw all my meetings that were on my calendar for the last week and in the future and started to RESEND ALL THE MEETING INVITES AS IF THEY WERE FROM ME.
So, if I had a meeting that I was invited to next week, along with 3 others. It sent out a meeting invitation through my email to the other 3 participants (excluding the original meeting organizer) and sent it as if I was the meeting organizer. So I ended up with duplicate meetings on my calendar, and it duplicated everyone else's calendar. So people had 2 meeting ivntes, one from me, and one from the original organizer.
Needless to say, this was a big problem. Fortunately, i cuaght it before it went thru my entire calendar, but ti still managed to send out about 40 meetings invites, some to large groups of people!
I immediately removed the BBC software and switched my plan back.
I don't know why it happened. I can't explain it. Has anyone else who gets the new Kaiser-compatible BBC installed had this issue? Or did it work as expected?
I would prefer to get BBC working, but I can't risk having that happen again!
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So, here's the deal. I also got this to work on my second day of having my TyTN II. I called AT&T and tricked them into thinking I had purchased an unlocked BB from a dealer and they switched me over to the BB Unlimited plan so I could use BES to connect to my corp email. I installed the PC software, and the handheld SW. And got everything working. It started downloading all my emails, inbox and sent. I chose not to sync my calendar until I confirmed it worked.
BUT...
Something very strange happened. Basically, it went thru my calendar, saw all my meetings that were on my calendar for the last week and in the future and started to RESEND ALL THE MEETING INVITES AS IF THEY WERE FROM ME.
So, if I had a meeting that I was invited to next week, along with 3 others. It sent out a meeting invitation through my email to the other 3 participants (excluding the original meeting organizer) and sent it as if I was the meeting organizer. So I ended up with duplicate meetings on my calendar, and it duplicated everyone else's calendar. So people had 2 meeting ivntes, one from me, and one from the original organizer.
Needless to say, this was a big problem. Fortunately, i cuaght it before it went thru my entire calendar, but ti still managed to send out about 40 meetings invites, some to large groups of people!
I immediately removed the BBC software and switched my plan back.
I don't know why it happened. I can't explain it. Has anyone else who gets the new Kaiser-compatible BBC installed had this issue? Or did it work as expected?
I would prefer to get BBC working, but I can't risk having that happen again!
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That is very strange. BBC works great on mine and setup without issue.
GREAT news!!! since AT&T has not oficially released the "tilt" I'm assuming that you're using and HTC branded Kaiser, are you using the original ROM or did you Flash witht he AT&T ROM?
I'm eagerly awaiting for the delivery of my Kaiser
Thanks
Vinny
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GREAT news!!! since AT&T has not oficially released the "tilt" I'm assuming that you're using and HTC branded Kaiser, are you using the original ROM or did you Flash witht he AT&T ROM?
I'm eagerly awaiting for the delivery of my Kaiser
Thanks
Vinny
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I am using the original rom that came on the device. It took less than 5 minutes to set up.
Ditto. OEM ROM.
Has anyone used this on Tmobile? I know BB connect works on the Dash, but not on the Wing and I would hate to drop that much money to find out that it doesn't work with Tmobile.
Thanks for responding, I hope this holds true with other carrier than AT&T, I expect to have my kaiser within the next week or so, I'm in Mexico and my carrier is Telcel, I will report back as soon as I try this.
Cheers
Vinny
That's great that it was so easy to set up and use.
One question though....I have been using BbConnect on my 8525 for a while now, and always have difficulty accessing things such as Cellular Video or XM Radio or MobiTV through the Bb unlimited data plan. Usually aI have to disconnect the BB Connect service to access those.
Do you know if these services/apps work with the unlocked Tytn II and Blackberry Connect?
Thanks!
I have gotten BBC to work and I am generally pleased with it except the 32k limit sucks.
I have a couple questions that I'm wondering if anyone else has figured out.
First, my work email shows up in a folder called "Desktop" which is different that the general "Outlook Email" folder. Why is there a difference?
Also, when sending meeting invitations, I don't have the option to use the work (i.e., "Desktop") account, only the Outlook Email account which is not connected. Any ideas how to remedy this?
Thanks!
I have the Tilt and I was wondering is their anyway I can have both Media Net and Balckberry running at the same time? Everytime i am messages or browser the web my bb disconnects. Any way around this?
No, the Tilt can only connect to one APN at a time. MediaNet or blackberry.net
eh? so if i were to use ONLY the bb connect service for email, i'll get disconnected from browsing etc every time an email gets pushed out to me?
another question. i'm currently pulling down 4 pop3 accounts into their individual email "folders" on my tilt via default pocket outlook polling setup. can blackberry connect do the same with regards to different "folders" / account?
eg: shove different account emails to their respective outlook folders vs all in one bucket?
i had a 7200 series blackberry *years* ago using bb internet service and regardless of how many accounts you pulled down it all got dumped into the same bucket so to speak. there was no easy way to differentiate between biz critical vs personal emails at a glance.
?? so far i havent been able to find any helpful info re bb connect online yet.
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eh? so if i were to use ONLY the bb connect service for email, i'll get disconnected from browsing etc every time an email gets pushed out to me?
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No, it's the other way around. Whenever something else grabs the data link, BBConnect goes into suspend mode and will reconnect when it's released.
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another question. i'm currently pulling down 4 pop3 accounts into their individual email "folders" on my tilt via default pocket outlook polling setup. can blackberry connect do the same with regards to different "folders" / account?
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I creates a separate folder for each e-mail acount. As far as I know, that's the only way it will do it.
how does it work Blackberry connect on the Kaiser ?
Do we need to install the Blackberry software ? (Blackberry connect 4).
Can we then browser the internet if my company pay for it ? (I had Blackberry connect 2 installed on an HTC Universal, I could read my emails and sync Calendar/notes/tasks but I never could browser the internet ...I never could make Black Connect 4 working on my Universal, so I don't know if I would be able to browser the internet with it).
Thanks a lot
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No, it's the other way around. Whenever something else grabs the data link, BBConnect goes into suspend mode and will reconnect when it's released.
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hrm .. not the best scenario especially if using gps via google maps or web browsing.
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I creates a separate folder for each e-mail acount. As far as I know, that's the only way it will do it.
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speaking from personal experience using blackberry connect on your wm6 device?
thanks for the responses!
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how does it work Blackberry connect on the Kaiser ?
Do we need to install the Blackberry software ? (Blackberry connect 4).
Can we then browser the internet if my company pay for it ? (I had Blackberry connect 2 installed on an HTC Universal, I could read my emails and sync Calendar/notes/tasks but I never could browser the internet ...I never could make Black Connect 4 working on my Universal, so I don't know if I would be able to browser the internet with it).
Thanks a lot
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There are a number of threads of people posting their experience with BBC on the Kaiser. Browsing works, with some limitations. But also, its possible that your company's policies can restrict some BB functionality. It all depends on the config and the plans you have. But ultimately, you canbrowse the internet, you can get your email pushed to you. The biggest issue is the data connection issue described in the last couple posts. If you want more info. Search this forum for blackberry and you will find alot of testimonial expeirence in getting it set up and using it.
Personally, I found it to be too slow, too much of a memory and battery hog. I removed it within 2 days of installing it. And the difference in performance on the Kaiser and its battery is night and day IMO.
I use Seven's beta software now for my email pushing.
Thanks a lot for your infos !
I've been running it for a little more than a week.
Cons: I noticed that sometimes my appointments don't update on the Tilt when I move it on my desktop OL calender. You need to keep as few programs running as possible or it slows the device and the battery life isn't good. I like the BB keypad better. The Tilt wakes up with the screen dim and outside it is a real problem. I've had it lock up a few times and go so slow I needed to reset.
Pros: Best of WM and BB. The BB has a poor PIM so using PocketInformant again is very nice. 3G for browsing. The disconnect-reconnect is automatic so it isn't a problem for me.
I haven't made up my mind if I going to go back to my 8800. If I wasn't using BES (corporate email) I wouldn't use the BB but that isn't my choice.
Regards-Michael G.
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how does it work Blackberry connect on the Kaiser ?
Do we need to install the Blackberry software ? (Blackberry connect 4).
Can we then browser the internet if my company pay for it ? (I had Blackberry connect 2 installed on an HTC Universal, I could read my emails and sync Calendar/notes/tasks but I never could browser the internet ...I never could make Black Connect 4 working on my Universal, so I don't know if I would be able to browser the internet with it).
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Yes, you need to install BBConnect. You want BBConnect 4. I understand that HTC makes it available on their website for Kaiser. I got mine through AT&T on a Tilt, so it was a little different. One quirk, if you got your Kaiser in North America, you have to figure out if it came from Europe or Asia to register on the HTC site. One of the major improvements in BBConnect 4 is it will suspend the blackberry connection if you access the internet using a non-blackberry browser.
You can browse the internet one of two ways. When you install the blackberry software, it also installs the blackberry browser. It will be in the blackberry folder in the programs folder. This goes through your company's system to the internet. This won't interrupt your e-mail, but the blackberry browser is rather weak.
The other way is through any other browser. However, you have to have the APN for your provider programmed in. Your provider's web site will probably have that information. Unlimited data usually comes with a blackberry data plan. So, if you can get your company to pay for a plan, that should get you internet access, even if you don't go through your company's BES system.
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hrm .. not the best scenario especially if using gps via google maps or web browsing.
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That's true. You have to be careful to avoid programs that suspend bbconnect constantly.
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speaking from personal experience using blackberry connect on your wm6 device?
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Yes. It's running on my Tilt.
Regardless of where your Kaiser or Tilt came from, you can follow these links to the software needed to install it, if you want it.
http://www.america.htc.com/mobile/connect/8925/
http://www.america.htc.com/connect/8925/
You need 2 pieces (get one from each link above):
1. You need the Blackberry Connect software that installs on your Kaiser/Tilt. It's a .cab file. (first link above)
2. You need the Blackberry Connect for Windows Desktop software that installs on your PC. It's a .exe file. (second link above, halfway down the page)
There's also a help file at the bottom of the second link.
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Yes, you need to install BBConnect. You want BBConnect 4. I understand that HTC makes it available on their website for Kaiser. I got mine through AT&T on a Tilt, so it was a little different. One quirk, if you got your Kaiser in North America, you have to figure out if it came from Europe or Asia to register on the HTC site. One of the major improvements in BBConnect 4 is it will suspend the blackberry connection if you access the internet using a non-blackberry browser.
You can browse the internet one of two ways. When you install the blackberry software, it also installs the blackberry browser. It will be in the blackberry folder in the programs folder. This goes through your company's system to the internet. This won't interrupt your e-mail, but the blackberry browser is rather weak.
The other way is through any other browser. However, you have to have the APN for your provider programmed in. Your provider's web site will probably have that information. Unlimited data usually comes with a blackberry data plan. So, if you can get your company to pay for a plan, that should get you internet access, even if you don't go through your company's BES system.
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Thanks a lot for these informations, that's everything I needed to know !
jomo25 said:
Regardless of where your Kaiser or Tilt came from, you can follow these links to the software needed to install it, if you want it.
http://www.america.htc.com/mobile/connect/8925/
http://www.america.htc.com/connect/8925/
You need 2 pieces (get one from each link above):
1. You need the Blackberry Connect software that installs on your Kaiser/Tilt. It's a .cab file. (first link above)
2. You need the Blackberry Connect for Windows Desktop software that installs on your PC. It's a .exe file. (second link above, halfway down the page)
There's also a help file at the bottom of the second link.
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Thanks a lot for these links !
Like some of you already noticed. There is a problem with Live Messenger and Vodafone, which denies access to the Live Messenger server. with this client the problems are solved. i just tested it and i got back online!
http://www.allaboutphones.nl/forum/download.php?id=1489
no one has use for it?
so your saying it will accept wifi connection and not data gprs?
tvos
It just works like normal. Vodafone or Microsoft have blocked connections to Windows Live Messenger. with this client it works again with HSDPA/GPRS/EDGE/WIFI
I was able to install the app and use it with my tilt w/no problems over wifi.
Thank You!
tvos
Thx, this is just what a friend of my needed.
i don't use IM MSN much on the pocket pc, but at times it has been helpful. it was a pisser to find out that AT&T choose to use their data network restricting wifi to the OZ IM application.
anyways, thank you!
tvos
Just tested it on 2nd vodafone device. And it works. thx.
this version saves the msn contacts in the contacs list..
ugghh
is there a hack to prevent this?
This is the version 10.6.23.300 and the most recent version is 10.6.33.600
Hmmm. I had problems as well and remembered a post from someone stating that the use of the proxy in the Voafone GPRS connection settings was causing the problem. After unchecking the "this network uses a proxy server to connect to the internet" it magically worked!
I am now using Dutty's ROM v3 (need to update my signature) and radio ROM 11.31.
Please let me know if this worked for you guys!
Edward
No it does not work, i still can't connect to the MSN network via WLM.
What kind of version of WLM do you use, to connect to the network?
yes.. but the latest version doesn't work
But the old version adds your MSN contacts to your contact list @ mobile phone.. that sucks ;x.. but it works.. Grmbl..
yes..
i have more than 170 contacts on msn, so i had to put on fring..
mah.. i really don't understand why they are blocking msn..
:|
do you guys think it is possible to crack the latest version without the annoying contacts sync?
i'm looking in to it now.. using fring too..
I suspect that this is from windows mobile 5? as all the files are dated 30 October 2006.
I've got a call open with M$ at the moment, and the "helpful" chap is suggesting I try a reset (like I havn't done that 100 times before).
I'll let you know how it goes.
Also, the problem is on Three as well as Vodafone, but its OK on Orange and T-Mobile. Can't confirm o2 either way though
I installed MSN messenger .cab yesterday and it works beautiful!
I had a question though!
When I login to my account, it says that it will put all my contacts via IM in my exchange email contact address book. Whats the story with this and can I say "NO" to this option? Will this screw up my outlook email address book?
I removed those earlier from the address book not realizing it deleted a few MSN IDS.. Thank God for restore!
please advise!
tvos
I installed it on my vodafone 1615 and ik worked I say ik worked because indeed it imports all your msncontacts in your addressbook even the contacts where you already entered the messagge-contact in their info, they are doubled so i removed it again and wait for a newer version
Thanks man. I had for 3 weeks some problems with windows live and after installing this cab it works like a charm.
Thanks m8!
Hi there,
I've tried for the last few days to have working MSN (Windows live Messenger) and Gmail clients on my Diamond.
After investigations, the problem I have with this is due to the fact that my provider (France - SFR) does not allow msn protocol, as well as pop/imap. As a matter of fact, only HTTP and HTTPS are allowed.
The only way to get these working is to use web-based (HTTP 80) clients.
I've tried ebuddy and some others for msn, as well as the official gmail java client. Both are working, but fonts are very small, since both are designed for QVGA screens.
So here is my question: do you know msn/gmail WEB-based clients with VGA interface for WM ?
Thanks a lot !
For GMail you can just point your browser to http://m.google.com/mail.
I would seriously consider switching to another provider though... Only http? They are living on which planet?
hello
for gmail, opera 9.5 on the diamond is working perfectly, you don't even need to use the mobile version ... (igoogle is also working great by the way)
you can also use the mail2web solution.
I'm in france and with sfr too, I'm transferring all my emai from gmail to my mail2web account, then I use activesync to synchronise with the exchange server of mail2web (which is http...)
I then have all my gmail in outlook (in the touchflo3D interface) it's working great (can even work as push if you setup activesync in always connected... but the battery won't last long)
for msn, web messenger should work great... or we just wait that sfr release the sfr messenger for the diamond...
hantoucc said:
I've tried ebuddy and some others for msn, as well as the official gmail java client. Both are working, but fonts are very small, since both are designed for QVGA screens.
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Yawn... search, search, search... I've explained the solution to this problem at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2426977&postcount=24 :
in a nutshell: double the values of HKCU\Software\JBlend\AMS_Font_Size, VM_Font_Size0, VM_Font_Size1, and VM_Font_Size2
Thanks.
@ Menneisyy: I searched a lot before posting, and my question was not about java-based apps only.
@ Andrax: Thanks for the tip, it's quite cool with mail2web. You can't answer with your genuine mail address, though... Don't understand why SFR blocks imap and pop. I tried messenger by sfr (qvga java version): does not seem to work with JBlend, did you try it?
the java machine installed on the diamond is not jblend... so what menneisvy is saying is not working as such...
maybe in his original post he explain which jblend java machine to install ...
let's search search search
You can go in the parameters of the gmail client to use a bigger font. It's still not that big, but it helps.
But since it is not designed for VGA and touchscreen, it is not that better than the classic online gmail app (what really bugs me is the first warning about the VM thinking the gmail app is not secure, and still the VM to request confirmation to use data connection, and no way (as far as I know) to tell it it's good once for all).
pedmond said:
For GMail you can just point your browser to http://m.google.com/mail.
I would seriously consider switching to another provider though... Only http? They are living on which planet?
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Funny cuz in Romania vodafone does the same thing!
buciuman said:
Funny cuz in Romania vodafone does the same thing!
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LOL - wouldn't know, I've been on Orange for a lifetime...
hello hantoucc
The gmail java app uses HTTP and HTTPS connectors. So it should work perfectly with SFR restriction.
Cheers
The gmail java app uses HTTP and HTTPS connectors. So it should work perfectly with SFR restriction.
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I said:
I've tried ebuddy and some others for msn, as well as the official gmail java client. Both are working, but fonts are very small, since both are designed for QVGA screen
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Thanks anyway...
"palringo" maybe for msn messenger?
Palringo works indeed quite fine...