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Hi, I have done a lot of searching on this topic, but haven't been able to find anything definitive on the best way to install blackberry connect. I am about to pick up a Siemens SX66 (Cingular version, but will be using on Tmobile) and want to make sure that I will be able to get the blackberry functionality to work.
I have a few questions/comments/observations that I would love to get everyones feedback on. If there something out there that explains how to get it working, I am sorry and please feel free to point me in the right direction.
1. My understanding is that the blackberry connect software is in the extended rom. So far I have been able to find the following cab files which I believe have the blackberry software: htc_pocketpc_tmo_germany_2.0.0.25-18.cab, HTC_PocketPC_TMO_Austria_Germany_Load_Working.cab and htc_pocketpc_tmo_england_2.0.0.25-18.cab. Not sure what else is in here, but it looks like the blackberry client is there as well.
2. If I use one of those roms, what language will the software be? Will have to use the tmobile UK version for english?
3. I have been reading about people have problems with the phone rom. These are post from a while back, it seems that the UK blackberry client need version 1.0 and the german version need 1.06? Is this correct or can I use the lasted phone rom?
4. Is there any limitations on the System Rom or Extended Rom? Do I need a specific version? I want to make sure I have english on the device though.
5. Let's say I do get all the right software. Is there a problem in the US where Blackberry won't register Blackberry Connect PINs? I was reading in another forum that someone was having a problem with this on their SX66 and also I am upgrading from a Sony Ericsson P910a where I couldn't get my PIN added to Blackberry servers.
The main reason I want the device is to replace my blackberry and this is extremely important. Other functionality is awesome, but secondary as I need to make sure I have access to my corporate email.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!!! Thanks!
There are 2 threads in the blue angel section that have Blackberry connect ih the title. Might be of help.
Thanks saw those posts after, I figured the info would be in this section. I posted some questions there as well, but any help would be appreciated. Not sure if this is going to work....oh well..
To the best of my knowledge...
NOBODY has been able to make the BB Connect software work on SX66 on Cingular.
I've all but given up. Maybe WM2005 will be different...
Crap, though I take it the problem is Cingular not the phone right? Do you know if anyone has been able to get it to work on T-Mobile? What is the problem you are having, is it the PIN / IMEI registration issue?
that's certainly a part of it...
pin/imei, software (nothing supported). The blackberry connect desktop software for XDA2 is a couple years old and does not let you change the PIN.
No way to configure, so you're hosed. The O2 software on the pocket pc is also locked to an O2 blackberry APN. No way to change that either.
It's possible that somebody somewhere has taken the T-Mobile German MDAIII software -- and somehow obtained the T-Mobile desktop software -- and translated both --
but I doubt it! Definitely not to be found anywhere on this site...
Of course, I'D LOVE TO BE PROVEN WRONG, as this has been the biggest issue for me since I got this bloody device.
Bottom line: either use the crap XpressMail redirector product that Cingular offers, or use IMAP/POP on a "pull" basis. Neither way works well. We're screwed until Cingular steps up to the plate or until some brave soul on this board saves us all!
Re: that's certainly a part of it...
goestoeleven said:
pin/imei, software (nothing supported). The blackberry connect desktop software for XDA2 is a couple years old and does not let you change the PIN.
No way to configure, so you're hosed. The O2 software on the pocket pc is also locked to an O2 blackberry APN. No way to change that either.
It's possible that somebody somewhere has taken the T-Mobile German MDAIII software -- and somehow obtained the T-Mobile desktop software -- and translated both --
but I doubt it! Definitely not to be found anywhere on this site...
Of course, I'D LOVE TO BE PROVEN WRONG, as this has been the biggest issue for me since I got this bloody device.
Bottom line: either use the crap XpressMail redirector product that Cingular offers, or use IMAP/POP on a "pull" basis. Neither way works well. We're screwed until Cingular steps up to the plate or until some brave soul on this board saves us all!
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Umm i hate to say this but also that PIN number is alos tied to a carrier, and RIM will NOT release that PIN number to be used on another carrier's network, i know, i am a data support rep with Cingular. if you want something just like the Blackberry then go pay and get the GoodLink solution, otherwise i wouldnt complain about something free that cingular offers, I use it and i agree it isnt the best but works pretty damn well considering it FREE!!! for the PErsonal Edition. Besides, if you wanted to use the BWC (BlackBerry Web client) it isnt exactly Push either, the only forms available are the Redirector and the BES, but considering Congular is offering a solution for FREE i woulnt complain if i were you. If you wanna get mad at not having that solution get mad at RIM not Cingular...... :!:
Re: that's certainly a part of it...
Well I have the desktop software in english and just installed the german software on my sx66. I think I got it to connect but its hard to tell. Iwonder if there is any other software out there....
goestoeleven said:
pin/imei, software (nothing supported). The blackberry connect desktop software for XDA2 is a couple years old and does not let you change the PIN.
No way to configure, so you're hosed. The O2 software on the pocket pc is also locked to an O2 blackberry APN. No way to change that either.
It's possible that somebody somewhere has taken the T-Mobile German MDAIII software -- and somehow obtained the T-Mobile desktop software -- and translated both --
but I doubt it! Definitely not to be found anywhere on this site...
Of course, I'D LOVE TO BE PROVEN WRONG, as this has been the biggest issue for me since I got this bloody device.
Bottom line: either use the crap XpressMail redirector product that Cingular offers, or use IMAP/POP on a "pull" basis. Neither way works well. We're screwed until Cingular steps up to the plate or until some brave soul on this board saves us all!
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Damm, I actually just found the software for 2.0 software for Tmobile UK. Now it only gets an IP address for two seconds then looses it. I think its the same problem I had with my p910a I can't get the server to recognize it.
Please prove me wrong!
Figure out how to make this work, and you'll be the hero of every Cingular / SX66 user on this board!
I am getting much closer now, I hacked (hex edit) one of the dll files to point to an IP address of 206.51.26.192 instead of 206.51.26.189. I know the .192 is the right address from my old blackberry. Now I actually stay live on the APN with an IP address and everything, where before I would get one for a second and get kicked out. I think it's a matter of registering it now. If anyone wants to try this dll, replace the one in the windows directory. Also I will upload the version of blackberry connect I am using... Please try as well...
Here is the dll I mentioned...replace this with the one in windows directory
Seem s like you are getting somewere on this issue.
Feel like writing a How to so that we can post it on wiki?
If you need help PM me I can also move what ever files that you like on the FTP site.
Thanks, just haven't gotten it to work totally yet, but that may just need a call to Tmobile to ask them to set it up. I have made progress in the fact that my blackberry.net apn now stays connected, where before it would disconnect after a minute or two. I think I am half way there. Need some more people to play around who have tried before to see if they get anywhere...
Can you also post the desktop software version you're using?
There hasn't been a recent posting of the BB Config software in quite some time...
Thanks!
It's too large, check the ftp server. look for somethign called bb_desktop_sw_mda3_20.exe It's up there somewhere.... poke around uploads as well...
Oh wait... I got it from tmobile directly, hehehe...
http://www.t-mobile.de/business/blackberry/smallbusiness/1,8236,8577-_,00.html
So you're using the German version?
Make it work, and I won't care what language it's in!
I agree, first I tried the german one, before I found the Tmobile Uk one. Did you try downloading everything and installing?
yup...
still can't make it work on my end... although I haven't changed anything in Hex...
Try the dll I fixed up also, let me know if it makes any difference....
Hi,
I attempted to install the Helmi WM5 upgrade 1.3.2 beta to my Orange SPV m2000.
I did not attempt to install extra rom, and now I'm glad that I didn't!
My PAYG operator has always been Vodafone UK, and would like to continue using them, as they have the best signal strength in my area.
I noticed that Vodafone was on the list, but did not notice (untill after the upgrade) that it is only available in the Middle East and Australia !
The BaUpgradeUt reached 83% on stage 3, and then paused for a long time (my entire Christmas Dinner!!!!!!!!!!!) In the end I removed the device, had trouble getting it to reset, and have now reinstalled the WM2003 ROM from Orange.
Would like to benefit from wm2005, so need your advice on what went wrong! I had several of the command windows/folders open that it may have been trying to access, so maybe it may have been trying to access these?
If this ROM is not the most stable (or the best for a relatively inexperienced person!), I would be pleased to know. It sounded that way, because version 1.4 beta seemed to leave out a lot of apps which I needed (for example the smartdialler).
Please could someone give me some unbiased(!) advice as to what went wrong, and what my options are now?
Thanks so much guys,
Tom
P.S Thinking about the SIM Operator issue, is it possible to unlock a WM5 blue angel, after upgrading?
did u set the operator the file before u do the upgrade?
if you have not done so, pls refer to wiki site on how to get the device data then set the operator for the new file before flash it.
Hi everyone
I am new here and this is my first post, so please go easy on me.
I wanted to start by congratulating all the contributors on this forum on a great job done.
I’ve just ordered an SPV M700 on Orange and have a couple of questions
1- I need to unlock the phone to be able to use an O2 Sim card in it.
2- I want to be able to use The GPS in the phone.
To use the O2 SIM do I just need to do a SIM unlock, or do I have to do a CID unlock to? Err what is CID in the first place
My understanding is that the Orange ROM has the GPS enabled, am I correct? If so, all I have to do is install software like Tomtom Navigator and all should work, right?
As you can see, I am not that technical and do not want to mess the phone up by venturing into un-chartered territories.
Thank you for any help
1, yes you just need a SIM unlock. You will find the necessary tools on this forum to do this.
2, it seems that the current batch of Orange phones are shipping with the gps enabled rom, so yes just install tomtom.
I think CID stands for country ID (or something like that), you only need to unlock this if you intend to install firmware from another country e.g. the gps enabled Depod firmware. Providing your orange supplied phone has their most recent firmware you won't have to worry about this.
I've just found out what orange are doing. ONLY their Business phones have it enabled.
So if you order the phone on a personal account you don't get the GPS enabled.
However if you order it on a business account you can have it.
The third option is to learn French and flash the publicly available french rom to it.
(That's assuming you want it to be supported by orange themselves)
Else use one of the cooked roms and you're sorted.
EDIT: I've just got off the phone to Orange. The third option above would still be covered by insurance. Though if anything goes wrong it would have to be listed as a technical fault and go back to their free post address.
no, you are wrong, i am personal account, the rom is gps enabled
You flashed it to enable it. The GPS ROM is there but with one of the earlier firmware versions which doesn't enable it. (I got my information directly from Orange. If you were lucky enough to get a business phone sent out to you then I'm extremely jealous (and ask you again to upload your firmware ) but after about 40 mins of bouncing me around centers and giving me lame excuses or saying they were the wrong department I finally got a straight answer out of 2 seperate departments saying this was indeed the case)
If you look on the Orange site:
Business:
http://www.business.orange.co.uk/se...s&c=OUKDevice&cid=1044134008063&extarg1=Phone
It can deliver you directly to your meetings, thanks to it's built-in GPS with Sat Nav from Orange.
Personal:
http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/show/handset/orange_spv_m700/features
No mention of any GPS is listed.
I know the GPS is there and functions as I've used a cooked ROM to enable it.
Plus as has been pointed out you can freely get the Orange France version of the firmware which has GPS enabled.
no no no, i didn't flash it before enable it, i can use the gps with tomtom 6 when i first got the phone, i need to flash it because i need to make it sim unlock..( i got it on 28/02/07, from the orange shop)
and even the manual with my spv m700, it also mention about the gps.
siupiu said:
no no no, i didn't flash it before enable it, i can use the gps with tomtom 6 when i first got the phone, i need to flash it because i need to make it sim unlock..( i got it on 28/02/07, from the orange shop)
and even the manual with my spv m700, it also mention about the gps.
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This is good News
I will get mine tomorrow - hopefully
Alas, I need to use an O2 Sim card though, so I must go down the SIM unlock route. I am in a dilemma between
1- Using the Prof's unlocking solution here
or
2- Paying up the $38 for peace of mind here here
Forget about solution 2
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Forget about solution 2
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I second that
the-oneil said:
This is good News
I will get mine tomorrow - hopefully
Alas, I need to use an O2 Sim card though, so I must go down the SIM unlock route. I am in a dilemma between
1- Using the Prof's unlocking solution here
or
2- Paying up the $38 for peace of mind here here
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you may to have a look of this post?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296327
SPV M700
Just to let you all know:
I just spoke to Orange about upgrading my M600 to M700. Vry nice lady ( after three atempts) has confirmed that M700 has GPS receiver built in. It would not show anywhere on Comms but it is selectable once you install SatNav software and it is on COM9.
So I think that anewers the original question.
Happ Navigating
Got my SPV M700 from Orange yesterday.
I went into the favorit > Sat Nav & downloaded Orange's Sat Nav program (It woked a treat - No ROM flashing or anything ) It actually guided me back home.
So yes, Orange UK ROM is 100% GPS enabled.
the-oneil not all are coming with GPS enabled. I know as I've seen 2 so far which came without the GPS working. Must depend on the batch they send out.
i think that depends on which rom version, that one with the following version must have GPS..
Operator version : 19.123.1.615
ROM version: 1.23.61.5
Rom date : 01/25/07
Radio version : 1.30.00.01
Protocol version: 32.63.7020.08H
I didn`t have to enable GPS on my M700. I installed a sat nav system ( Navigon MN6) and it connected by itself. I have a black M700 but on a personal account. The black ones were originally only reserved for new business accounts. Don`t know if that is significant.
I have now just installed Route 66 Navigate 7 in place of Navigon but it can`t seem to connect to the GPS receiver. Anyone help with that? I can only find one way to access the GPS seetings, in Systems/connections/GPRS Settings, and the only option is to change from PAP Authentication to CHAP Authentication. I don`t know what the difference between them is ( I`m not a techie!!) but it makes no difference anyway.
Any advice would be appreciated
Don't confuse GPS (Global Positioning by Satellite) with GPRS (General Packet Radio Service). If you mess with the GPRS settings, you may stop your phone from being able to use mobile data.
The M700 doesn't come with the GPS control panel visible, and generally speaking you don't need it to. Windows Mobile 5 comes with a software patch which distributes a GPS signal to any application requiring it, but some GPS applications can't work with this. I presume Route 66 may be one of them (as is TomTom).
Go to your Route 66 settings, and in the GPS setting options, set COM port to COM9 and Baud rate to 57600, which are the default hardware settings for the M700.
Now go to somewhere with a clear view of the sky for about 10 minutes, to allow the program to download all the necessary satellite information.
the-oneil,
I did the same as you with my brothers Trinity but I have a small problem with the internet settings.
I downloaded a cab file from a forum request on this site but it did not work for me and so I then copied the settings from a site called 'filesaveas' and itwork for me except in one way.
When I try to access my brothers Hotmail account via Pocket MSN I could not do it, however when I accessed Hotmail via Internet Explorer it was ok.
So I have some kind of error in the settings somewhere that still needs to be resolved. I contacted O2 for the settings but they would not give them to me because it is not an O2 handset. The screen asks me repeatedly for 'Incoming Email Password', which is exactly the same one as when I use Internet Explorer to acces Hotmail.
So let me know if you get the above working on yours and perhaps I could copy your settings.
Cheers!
And good luck!
Thanks NeilM,
Trouble is, I`ve tried and tried to find somewhere in the Route 66 menu where I can change GPS settings, but no luck. I`ve been checking through the files using File Explorer but can`t find anything anywhere that allows me to do that. Can you suggest somewhere I might find it or would it be pretty obvious, like going into the main menu in Route 66 when it`s running, and looking for a GPS settings tab. There isn`t one. It has a tab called GPS information but that just gives GPS status info, no way of changing any settings. Guess I`m stuffed!!
According to the Route66 help, it only supports Bluetooth GPS, not inbuilt receivers.
In fact their compatibility list is so old, I wonder it works on any current device
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According to the Route66 help, it only supports Bluetooth GPS, not inbuilt receivers.
In fact their compatibility list is so old, I wonder it works on any current device
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Thats great, thanks for letting me know, I can stop messing around with it now and go for something else or get a bluetooth receiver. The built in receiver isn`t that great anyway. I read somewhere that it was an 8 channel receiver. I have tried Navigon MN6 already with my M700 and I noticed that it`s positioning leaves a lot to be desired. I wondered if it might be something to do with the receiver as I didn`t expect it to be a SirfstarIII. So I might at some point just get myself a decent quality bluetooth SirfstarIII. Any recomendations?
Cheers for now
Have just upgraded my Wizard to WM6 I encountered a couple of problems along the way but the most frustrating by far was having everything perfect with the notable exception of being unable to send or receive text messages. Every time I tried to send I got the pop up to say "Phone not ready wait 15 seconds then try again"
THE FACTS
Its a G4
Originally sold as UK O2 XDA Mini S
Paid to unlock
Flashed to UK T-Mobile WM5 and used for work
Flashed to UK Orange WM5 and used for pleasure
Upgraded to the gorgeous (well I like it) SNN Diamond Edition ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403096&highlight=SNN+Diamond
THE PROBLEMS
All RUU packages failed with a variety of error codes but the visible sign of failure was the display going blank and not firing up again. The solution was written in one of the upgrade guides "remove the SD card" (so glad I didn't post on that one. DOH!!) Read this it really helps http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
The SD Card wasn't being recognised after upgrade. I couldn't be sure how I fixed that, it could have been one or more of the following:
Repeat ROM Upgrade
Hard Reset
Soft reset (5 times as it seems to speed everything up)
Switch off phone (hold down power button and say "Yes" when asked)
Insert SD
Power Up
Synch with ActiveSync 4.5 & Win XP (connection only so untick all the boxes)
Synch with Windows Mobile Device Centre and Vista
Remember to check the memory status (Start/Settings/System/Memory)
Well whadda you know, the SD card is recognised!
OK it's not scientific I'll grant you but if it helps someone then it wasn't wasted two finger typing time.
No text messages, after much searching and reading inconclusive threads I went for a Radio ROM Upgrade. I flashed 2.71.11 but have a look at the Wiki and take your pick from the 3 listed. Bingo!! http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Wizard
CONCLUSION
Read everything before you begin, there is loads of information here, some of it conflicting which leads me on to ...
There's more than one way to skin a cat, maybe one guide might not work for your phone in your country with your Telco, just try another until you find a method that works for you. Absolutley DO NOT ignore the dire warnings though, Wizards are useful as paperweights but much more useful as PDA phones.
Don't expect much help from your service provider, Orange were strangely unhelpful when they found out I am using a phone they never sold in the UK with a cooked ROM and one of their SIMs that was sold with a Nokia Slide. Honestly, what do I pay these guys for!!
Don't despair, throw the darn thing through a window or, when confronted by a black screen, reach for the Big Hammer. Take out the battery, wait, put it back together and power up.
Do give thanks, to the guys and gals who give away their hard work in the form of cooked ROMS, who spend hours writing user guides and making screenshots, who build mini apps to simplify the process and who answer the same question a zillion times on the Forum.
Thanks Guys!!
Right, having got the Wizard running like a dream I have here in front of me an SPV C500 Typhoon and an SPV M600 Prophet. Oh and is that a Kaiser that work gave me, locked to T-Mobile, dare I?
Hi all,
I recenty purchased a used Kaiser off Ebay-UK which had Android 2.1 installed. The Seller referenced this site so I presume he is a member. He said he sold the Kaiser as he now has a HD2.
Anyway....lots of probs with the phone:-
-Bluetooth & Camera(s) not working
-My Orange sim seemed to work for a few hours but soon after I got 'no service' message.
-Tried an alternative sim and that wouldn't even get read by the phone!
> Is Android 2.1 a bit of a stretch for a Kiaser ? Would I be better of finding a WM6.1 rom ?
> I'm really worried the 'no signal' message could mean the phone has been reported lost/stolen and as such its blocked. I have found a 17 digit IMEI number on it, does anyone know any free sites where it can be checked to confirm whether its blocked or not?
> if its proven to be 'not blocked then why would I get 'no service'?
I am separately waiting for the ebay seller to revert, I just want some background info to help me work out my next move.
cheers
ebod said:
Hi all,
I recenty purchased a used Kaiser off Ebay-UK which had Android 2.1 installed. The Seller referenced this site so I presume he is a member. He said he sold the Kaiser as he now has a HD2.
Anyway....lots of probs with the phone:-
-Bluetooth & Camera(s) not working
-My Orange sim seemed to work for a few hours but soon after I got 'no service' message.
-Tried an alternative sim and that wouldn't even get read by the phone!
> Is Android 2.1 a bit of a stretch for a Kiaser ? Would I be better of finding a WM6.1 rom ?
> I'm really worried the 'no signal' message could mean the phone has been reported lost/stolen and as such its blocked. I have found a 17 digit IMEI number on it, does anyone know any free sites where it can be checked to confirm whether its blocked or not?
> if its proven to be 'not blocked then why would I get 'no service'?
I am separately waiting for the ebay seller to revert, I just want some background info to help me work out my next move.
cheers
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Hi!
BT and camera->android problem
If the phone is barred then you get the no signal message within a minute.It worked for hours with your SIM,so I think it's not barred.
I don't know about free sites to check barred phones,you can do it at local police or service providers offices (if you have a friend there).
If I was you I could flash a WM ROM and test with it.
BR
Scootie
Cheers Scootie,
BT & Cam not working is enough to convince me Android is not worth putting on a Kaiser.
Dunno what could cause a network to drop. but it deffo DID work for an evening as I had googlemaps working with the GPS.
My Hermes has a 6.1 rom on it because I recall trying a 6.5 and it was a bit flakey.
Whats the score with Kaisers? 6.5 roms all stable?
When I plug in this Kaiser to my PC, all I get is the message 'Android device detected' but I don't have any drivers.
All I know so far is to get the tricolour screen its press camera + reset. Can I please be allowed to be lazy and get some links on how to properly flash a Kaiser which is presently on Android ( i.e. what PC software and a popular stable WM rom.
BTW ,My tricolour screen says KAIS130 MFG , SPL-1.0 OliPof , CPLD-8
thx
What a nightmare, Android looks slick but too unstable for me. I can't find a working application to browse the SD card, so have had to resort to the microSD flashing method...but still stuck...arrrgghh :-(
QUAOTE
1. Make sure your microSD is Formatted to fat32 (you dont have to delete all files but it is safer if you do)<> CHECK-OK
2. Download Cmonex's HardSPL 3.29SD, unzip it and copy the 2 files into the root of your MicroSD Card <> CHECK<>OK
(KAISDIAG.NBH is basically an SSPL patched to load from SD without booting OS)
(KAISIMG.NBH is cmonex HardSPL 3.29)
3. Insert the microSD Card into the phone CHECK<>OK
4. Hold in the Power and Camera buttons, then press the reset button with the stylus for about 3 seconds until the BootLoader screen appears.....STUCK<>Just get a 'STYLEZ' picture and nothing else happens :-(