Hi
I have been playing with this for a day now, and it has introduced more bugs in the wifi functionality. If you want to use WiFi from your IIs then I would avoid this 'update' like the plauge.
What you get:
- ROM: 1.31.00 WWE (13th Dec 04) so this is 2.5 months old
- Radio 1.06.00 (1.06.02 is latest)
- ExtRom: 1.31.139 WWE (no real updates to existing progs)
Whats Better
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- The camera performs better in low light conditions (I used to get vertical lines on the screen
- Bluetooth stack build 3500. A vast improvement, but the latest is now build 3900 which some say solves the 'scratching noise' that is heard in some headsets
Whats Worse/Not Fixed
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- O2 Active V3.5. Its bloody awful - spends its life redrawing the screen, its very sluggish, and adds nothing to the today screen. I never used to use the old version, but having the O2 icon was handy for its ability to list the active connections and terminate them. Much is made of the ability to change the position of the icon (which I never found to be a problem in the first place. Tapping the new icon starts O2 Active rather than listing the active connections. To list active connections, you need to tap and hold for 5 seconds. I find that after tapping and holding, I get the menu, but that the menu then fails to respond to my 'close connection' taps. I reverted back to the old O2 active program.
- WiFi. They have completely buggered it up. It was unreliable at best beforehand. I have a network at home, which I finally pursuaded the device to connect to after multiple resets. I headed into work this morning (2 AP's) switched it on, and it just sat there searching for the network. I went into Tools-->Network cards, and see the work network listed as 'connected' (it was not connected, I had not given it the PSK yet). I soft reset the device, and it finally saw the network and prompted with the usual 'Internet/Work' dialogue. I was then asked for the pass key. At this point I noticed that there is no longer a possibility to activate the soft keyboard in order to enter the pass key (A right pain in the arse when the passkey is just a random multicase/numeric key, and all you get are ** on the dialogue). Anyway, I entered the key, and the device refused to get a valid IP address. Doing IPconfig showed that the wireless card was trying to use an old GPRS IP!!! I tried a renew (3rd party ipconfig tool). I tried stopping and starting wifi. Eventually, I soft reset (still the same), so I stopped wifi, soft reset, started wifi - and *finally* it decided to go and get itsself an IP address. (this is a bug I saw in the old firmware, but its worse than it used to be).
- WiFi still marks the wrong networks as 'available', i.e at work, 10 miles from home, my home network is marked as 'available' and my work network is marked as 'unavailable' !!! (this is an old bug)
- In Network adapters, the dialogue, 'My Work Network Connects To:' is blank, and there is no longer a possibility to select work/internet (options are blank). This is new to v1.31.139 (anyone else also missing this)
- If you select a wifi connection and change it from being a 'work' connection to an 'internet' connection then the change does not stick. This is new to v1.31.139
- In the MMS applet, it is no longer possible to select a 'modem' directly. I used to be able to select 'O2 Active'. You now have to select a profile that includes an appropriate modem. This is new to v1.31.139
- When editing a network profile in 'network management' eg: My ISP. the device still forgets to display existing modem/vpn connections. (same as old version).
Out Of Date Software / missing software
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- Photo Contacts (CallerId cab) is still version 1.17 (latest is 1.20)
- Missing O2 plus - other o2 devices include this
- Missing Intelipad
- Missing Smartdialer
- Old build of Java Midlet software
- Old build of MMS composer software
Other Thoughts
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For my money, the device feels more sluggish than it did before. Though its difficult to prove this!
O2 has spent far too much time on that O2 Active rubbish - does *anyone* actually use this [email protected]?? - and not enough time integrating/testing the latest versions of CE, drivers, and third party apps.
I'll add more to this as I find new bugs, and send it all off to O2 in a couple of weeks.
What I am now using
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I am now using v1.31.139 + Bluetooth build 3900 + PhotoContacts 1.20 + Java build 1004.
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Additions: 1/3/05
- SMS notify no longer seems to work. Anyone else suffer from this? MMS notify works fine and SMS notify is switched on. Perhaps the notify event is missing, but I have no idea how to sort this.
- VPN over wireless lan is still not possible - it tries and fails to connect. VPN over GPRS still works OK.
Additions 02/03/05
- SMS Notify problem is *not* to do with the rom update. I removed the registry key: HKLM\software\microsoft\inbox\svc\outlook since I had no need for the outlook folder in inbox. Removing this also kills off SMS notify!! I backed up, hard reset, preventing the stuff in the extended rom from installing. Installed PHM regedit, exported the outlook key, restored my backup and imported the reg key!!
- Internet/Work settings missing from Wlan setup. After restoring the backup, these had returned. Pretty strange, perhaps they were linked to the same registry key. No additional software bar the contents of the extended rom had been installed. If anyone else gets this, I suggest back, hard reset, restore might fix it.
Regards
Nigel
I have the same version with the latest radio build and cannot got the device to connect to my home Wifi what so ever.
Not exactly much use. It detects the network but refuses to connect. Either it says its connected but does not get an IP or it continously prompts for the network key.
I have also upgraded and am finding that the device often freezes when I try and switch it off, this happens about once or twice a day needing a soft reset.
I dont use the active stuff (which I never use) and am dissapointed that the O2 icon now starts O2 active rather than list the state of connections and allow you to trun them off i.e GPRS.
I agree the device does seem to be slower, I think I will be going back to the original code base and applying the BT patches, anyone know where there is a CAB installer for 3900?
check the ftp server
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/CAB_Files/Bluetooth Upgrades/
username xda
password xda
its the file that ends in 3900.
I installed 3900 over the recent O2 update (3500) and all went fine. Just do a soft reset before playing with bluetooth or it will moan about an expired stack.
Nigel
SMS Notify
Hi
Anyone else found that the SMS notify stops working once the latest O2 update is installed. MMS notify works, but SMS does not - its damned anoying!
UPDATE: Found the reason for this see end of original post
Nigel
Thanks for the comments on the update. I think I will stay with the original 1.12 ROM! Where can you get the other updates for the Camera and Java and Bluetooth etc? I'm currently running Bluetooth 3500.
Cheers
This is why you should sell you XDA IIs on ebay and buy a XDA IIi :lol:
Well that IS a concept! Thanks made me grin!
Hi since I installed the new Rom, my clock keep on freezing. The phone goes on standby > then it freeze. If I wake up the phone , it will still be frozen.
I have to click on start > Today in order to refresh it. :evil:
Any ideas ? It's still happening with no other today pluggin. :x
Would you recommend we dont bother upgrading the ROM atm then?
I upgraded also - the process was simple and took around 10 mins. This made my Bluetooth much more reliable and over a greater distance. I also find the 2s locks up frequently and requires soft resets.
Does anybody know how to remove the entire o2 software - I dont know anybody that uses it and Im sure it would speed up the whole device.
Remove entire O2 software:
You mean everything in the extended rom or just o2 active?
Hard reset, and when the message pops up about installing blah in 3 seconds (after you have done the touchscreen config) then soft reset. This gets you a plain vanilla HTC Blue Angel before the operator has installed its sh1te on it.
You can then selectively install just the bits you want, download the extended rom from the ftp site here, or unlock yr extended rom, copy out the cabs to main memory/SD etc, and then tap just the ones you want to install them.
If you just want rid of o2 active, then hard reset, and wait until the corporate/personal? message appears and then soft reset. O2 active is the last thing to be installed.
Nigel
mhanbury:
Hunt them down on the FTP site. Compare the version/build numbers with those in the new O2 extended rom.
Nigel
eskimofisherman said:
I upgraded also - the process was simple and took around 10 mins. This made my Bluetooth much more reliable and over a greater distance. I also find the 2s locks up frequently and requires soft resets.
Does anybody know how to remove the entire o2 software - I dont know anybody that uses it and Im sure it would speed up the whole device.
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Hard-reset your xda.
When the Personal/Corporate screen comes up, select corporate and enter 0506 - zero five zero six
This won't install active.
I'm getting a new XDAIIs (my 3rd one) , I will stay away from the new update and just put the bluetooth/ radio and contact manager manually.
That new update is just a piece of [email protected] :evil:
jeux_1 said:
I'm getting a new XDAIIs (my 3rd one) , I will stay away from the new update and just put the bluetooth/ radio and contact manager manually.
That new update is just a piece of [email protected] :evil:
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If you buy a new XDAIIs in the UK now you will get it with :
ROM Version: 1.31.00 WWE
ROM date: 12/13/04
Radio Version: 1.06.00
Protocol Version: 1337.38
ExtROM Version: 1.31.139 WWE
Ive had mine for 2 days now and ive had to soft reset about 6 times! and Hard reset once!
and this is annoying the hell out of me! can anyone tell me what im doing wrong. Why is it that whenever I do a hard reset I have to change the name of my activesync folder? If I try to keep them the same, it says I cant because there is already a device with that name!?!? :twisted: Or am I just being a noob?
irelmo said:
jeux_1 said:
I'm getting a new XDAIIs (my 3rd one) , I will stay away from the new update and just put the bluetooth/ radio and contact manager manually.
That new update is just a piece of [email protected] :evil:
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and this is annoying the hell out of me! can anyone tell me what im doing wrong. Why is it that whenever I do a hard reset I have to change the name of my activesync folder? If I try to keep them the same, it says I cant because there is already a device with that name!?!? :twisted: Or am I just being a noob?
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This is really wierd. My IIs works fine - doesn't lock up, doesn't need hard resets or anything so drastic. I don't have any other apps on the device though, just the standard one's O2 supplies (GPRS Monitor etc).
What other apps are people running? I'm guessing Today screen plugins are causing grief (Pocket+ etc)
yeah I did tried my phone with no today plug in but it is still crap, was working just fine with the previous rom......... what have I done :x
At least it keeps me busy....
The problem is you should have bought a XDA IIi not a XDA IIs.
Mike
Hi there,
I have an XDA2i from O2 - I am not sure how to find out things like ROM version etc, but from the about screen it says:
Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition Version 4.21.1088 (Build 14235.2.0.0)
Anyhow, my problem is that when I try and access certain items on the settings menus (GPRS settings and Power settings in particular) it takes me to the backlight settings page... Also, it seems like the backlight stays on whilst its in the cradle, even though I have set it to turn off after 2 mins. Don't know if that's relevant.
Anyone know why this could be and how I could remedy it? I am new to this place so I'm not sure what information to include - if you need more info just ask.
Thanks
I can't believe how very stupid I was. I did a soft reset and it was fixed... Sorry for wasting your time!
I have worked in IT support for 8 years at the desktop support level. I dont understand all but can usually figure things out. I apologies in advance for being a rookie. I am frustrated with this device and need help!!
I upgraded ATT tilt to Dutty 6.1 Build 19700.duttys 6.1 about 1 month ago and Since I did this I have had a lot of problems. Build has all the goodies and more but since the upgrade I cant get any work done because I am always tweaking in an attempt to get the device working properly. I have tried to reset and reflash sevral times to start all over again but I end up with the same issues.
1. Unable to sync with active sync. I have disabled avast anti and I still am unable to sync. I also added port 990 to firewall and no good. I have re-installed active Sync 5 times. It only works when I play with it and then the device does not stay connected. It boots the connection 1 or 2 minutes after sync
2. No email apps or programs work. I tried the java versions and all. Messaging says error synchronizing and gives this message - "cannot cannect with current connection settings. To change your connection settings tap settings" My settings are OK as far as I can see. I purposely connect to media net before opening email to make sure the data connection is present. I had full blown HSDPA in NY city yesterday and no email or GPS working.
3. GPS and GPS upgrade is not working. Does GPS use its own radio? Does dutty upgrade break the radio? Not sure what is happening here as well.
4. No you tube video as usual. This has always been broken and remains broken for me. I tried installing flash bundle, codecs, etc.... No good.
I constantly get prompted the below
"cannot cannect with current connection settings. To change your connection settings tap settings"
Only thing that works is web browser.
Can someone please point me to a good solid working and mostly complete ROM for the US att tilt "kaiser". Maybe this is all I need. I have trouble finding ROM info and whether its current via the site. It gets confusing and I just want to set up once and forget, if you know what I mean. Please provide any links I might need to a fix, rom, tweak, etc..
Please help!
Steve
Steve, I updated to Dutty's ROM a while ago and all worked well until about a couple of weeks ago. I do not attribute my problems to the ROM though but rather the Tilt itself. My first issue was related to no activesync connectivity. My Tilt became an "unknown" device. Looking at my USB port from inside of the battery compartment notice bent pins. I was able to straighten the pins out but only could connect with one of about 10 USB cables that I had around. Once you have loaded Dutty's room I would recommend reconfiguring your connectivity to AT&T. You can download a CAB with all of the configuration setting on this board. Recently my touch screen would freeze up and not work well. I thought it might be the ROM but later found out there must have been some physical problem. Two days ago I called ATT and RMA'd my phone. I recieved the new phone yesterday and configured it last night. All is working well (USB and Touchscreen, new ROM, New SPL and new radio).
BTW last night saw (do a google search - I don't remember where I saw it) a revised video / flash version of TCXXXX software. With Dutty's ROM (and current) my GPS worked great. I use it with a couple of test GPS programs and TomTom on Com4. I also have an external BT GPS and it works well with that. Check to make sure your email is not configured for a proxy or local network connection.
Pete
Thanks Pete, Since this post I have gotten the GPS to work. There is a GPS app in programs\tools that has an enable option. I stumbled across it looking for answers. Ill check the pins on my cable as well.
Dutty's connections wizard actually had the wrong info for ATT america. I had to remove ID and password to get it working for Media Net so I hope the cab you reference is a newer one than is on my tilt.
I am still getting the same message for email. "cannot cannect with current connection settings. To change your connection settings tap settings"
I have to be missing something in the connection settings. I will try the cab, maybe it has been updated since Dutty's build.
Can you think of any thing in the connection settings?? Opera works but email gets error and message to check connections.
Ill let you know how that works.
Here are the essential 3 cab files you need for your Tilt.
1) fixes keyboard
-Install, soft reset, done
2) Sets At&t settings
-install, set up email but do not save your password
then do this
start>settings>connections>connections>advanced>select networks>change both drop downs to media net>click edit on both drop downs and go to proxy settings here you will uncheck everything. remember to do it to both dropdowns.
3) removes hidden proxy (which will allow your email to work if you are using a saved password)
-install, then go to your email set up and save your password.
edit: This will also allow you to update htc weather, quickgps, and a number of other programs without receiving errors.
good luck and have a nice day
I ran through the guide of setting up the new radio and ROM for my phone, all went well and everything was applied successfully (RUU_Kaiser_HyperDragon_III_Raphael_WWE_20081225 AND KAIS_Radinly_1.70.19.09) but now the phone won't lock onto my network (T-Mobile in the UK). It locks, momentarily, then loses the connection and starts searching again. I've tried leaving the network selection on automatic, and also setting it manually to t-mobile UK, but in both scenarios it does exactly the same.
Can anyone suggest what is going wrong and how to fix it?
Just to elaborate on the new ROM I've installed:
1) My device no longer connects to T-Mobile UK on anything other than GSM - so no 3G, HSDPA etc. Any idea what I do to fix this?
2) I can access the Internet via Opera, IE, RSS etc. yet when I do send/receive in the email it fails to connect to the Internet without even appearing to try and connect. Im not sure what is causing this or how to fix it?
3) I dont seem to be able to lock on to a satellite - is this becuase QuickGPS isn't installed to assist the lock?
Have you tried the 'Connection Setup' wizzard under settings/connections?
A soft reset after that always works for me?
brandall said:
Have you tried the 'Connection Setup' wizzard under settings/connections?
A soft reset after that always works for me?
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Yes, gone through that process and soft reset several times. I can browse the web with opera and/or IE, and the RSS reader is working too, but the email wont work at all. I've set two different accounts (a POP and a GMail IMAP) and both do the same
Making some headway here now on these....
The GPS did connect - albeit VERY slowly. Is QuickGPS free to download somewhere to speed things up?
Got the email working - looks like there may be a proxy bug in the Rom i'm using as it kept resetting itself all the time when I closed the proxy settings dialog. Seems OK now though.
Still no luck on the high-speed internet connection though
Did you remember to do a hard reset immediately after flashing (i.e. at the point where you are invited to tap the screen to begin).
Sounds like a bad flash or a radio problem.
Yep, did hard reset becuase I had to look up on the wiki which keys to press
I just got my second-hand X1 and i ran into a problem, my internet just can't be setup. I ran the automatic config. program a few times, it just says it has been successful and nothing changes, on every startup it offers itself but with no results. When i try to manually add a connection through network managment but the list is empty and when i try to press on new nothing happens.
When i go on Connection>Tasks, the list is empty :x ?
How do I fix this without flashing a new rom ?
You should contact your provider and ask for settings, another thing you can do is that u go to the connection setting and update the database your settings should be able to get choosed.
most providers got their setting on their site often as a pdf guide how to setup windows mobile devices correctly
Unfortuneatelly my doesn't
Seems like i gotta do some flashing
Well hard reset did the trick, oh well, now all i need to is install 10302 apps that i did before (i like my phone pimped out )