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blue tooth activesync and cingular 8125

Need help. Trying to set up blue tooth on cingular 8125. Just bought new kensington bt and it set up serial com as com 4 and 5. The phone only gives u the option of com 6 and com 7. Any ideas? The BT does connect to phone but activesync cant find phone. Tried activsync 4.1 and 4.2. Thanks in advance for help.

I'm having the same trouble. i scoured this and other forums but can't find any info on this problem. I think we may need to upgrade the rom on our phones. I'm still running the stock rom and i think if we upgrade that might correct the problem.

I talked to the support team at HTC about this issue, they say that the activesync feature is a function of the drivers that are loaded onto your PC. If you pair your phone and don't see activesync as an available option, then try to upgrade or reinstall your BT driver. I wouldn't have thought it would work, but a simple uninstall and reinstall of my existing bluetooth software fixed the problem for me.

bob_beringer said:
I talked to the support team at HTC about this issue, they say that the activesync feature is a function of the drivers that are loaded onto your PC. If you pair your phone and don't see activesync as an available option, then try to upgrade or reinstall your BT driver. I wouldn't have thought it would work, but a simple uninstall and reinstall of my existing bluetooth software fixed the problem for me.
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This is the simpliest method to fix the problem.
I had many bad rounds of this and finally did a reinstall of the bluetooth and then Active"stink" (crappy program for many reasons).
You have to make sure that you can identify the port that you 8125 establishes a bluetooth session with beforee you try to sync with. This port number is used in Activesync to know which port to talk through.
Please make sure that in the connections of Activesync that you choose the port for which you identified as bluetooth connected to your device.
THEN try to re-establish a bluetooth Activesync connection from your 8125 (pair it if you need to) and "bing" there should the option for Activesync.

ktwildchild said:
bob_beringer said:
I talked to the support team at HTC about this issue, they say that the activesync feature is a function of the drivers that are loaded onto your PC. If you pair your phone and don't see activesync as an available option, then try to upgrade or reinstall your BT driver. I wouldn't have thought it would work, but a simple uninstall and reinstall of my existing bluetooth software fixed the problem for me.
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This is the simpliest method to fix the problem.
I had many bad rounds of this and finally did a reinstall of the bluetooth and then Active"stink" (crappy program for many reasons).
You have to make sure that you can identify the port that you 8125 establishes a bluetooth session with beforee you try to sync with. This port number is used in Activesync to know which port to talk through.
Please make sure that in the connections of Activesync that you choose the port for which you identified as bluetooth connected to your device.
THEN try to re-establish a bluetooth Activesync connection from your 8125 (pair it if you need to) and "bing" there should the option for Activesync.
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If you guys still have problems with this after let me know. I played with this for a few hours about a month ago and could retrace my steps. A couple of phone reboots after setting up the ports helped

Just to add, I noticed that once I upgraded the ROM to Summiter's 2.25 I was able to walk out of BT range and when I returned re-sync via ActiveSync without doing a soft-reset of the phone.
As SK7575 said, be sure to post there are plenty of folks using this connectivty option and it does work....

And I had this working - nicely syncing between my cingular 8125 and laptop via BT!!
But then I tried to get my 8125 to connect to my new wireless network - which did not work - and in the process of trying everything I must have broken something, because now after trying everything imaginable I just never see that activesync service on my 8125 any more.
The last I tried was to remove all the BT serial ports from device manager after deleting them from the HP bluetooth neighborhood (I have a bigger HP laptop with built in BT).
Then rebootet and four new BT ports were found and installed. Then I told the HP software to make a new incoming port (they call it service) and got COM 5. Then I told activesync on the PC to use COM5 for syncing.
Made sure all pairing was removed. booted both the HTC and PC - paired the two - bang - no 'activesync' service.
Now I am running out of options especially as I don't know how to un- and reinstall the HP software that comes with the laptop.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Gunter

I also have the HP BT stack on my laptop and ActiveStink does not sync with my MDA.
Any answers here, may help get me synced via BT.
Is the trick to see which USB port comes alive when I connect MDA via USB?
and use that on my PC for ActiveSync to listen to via BT on my laptop?
Thanks
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NB

I'd be glad to hear if someone has the Belkin F8T012 USB dongle and that they have that working with bluetooth ActiveStink.
'Cause everything I've tried, I never ever see the "Activesync" profile appear on my device when pairing, I only see an available Serial Port.
Does anyone know the details of how that active sync profile is cretaed on the 'puter? If I could troubleshoot from that angle, I bet I'd have it working...
-Chuck

The Bluetooth and Windows Mobile Device Center Dilemma

Hey everyone!!
Did anyone manage to connect his HTC Wings via Bluetooth to the PC and Sync it with WMDC?
It works with cable but not Bluetooth (BL).
I appreciate comments.
Thanks

A.Bagatov said:
Did anyone manage to connect his HTC Wings via Bluetooth to the PC and Sync it with WMDC?
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It worked pretty easy on my S730. Make sure you enable BT on the phone and your computer. Pair the PC with the S730 and start ActiveSync on your mobile. Select the option 'Connect via Bluetooth' and that was it (for me).

you seem to be using activesync, however i use windows mobile device center with windows vista x32... so the procedure is different and much more problematic it seems... not just with the s730 but with all wm devices

A.Bagatov said:
you seem to be using activesync, however i use windows mobile device center with windows vista x32... so the procedure is different and much more problematic it seems... not just with the s730 but with all wm devices
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I use Windows Vista Business (32-bit) and I needed to upgrade Mobile Device Center. It works without any problems afterwards. The only disadvantage is that I need to manually connect on my phone, before it starts synchronizing. I would rather have it syncronized whenever it is near my laptop.

it doesnt work for me. bluetooth is turned on in both devices.
does anyone have any suggestions?
i have the toshiba bluetooth stack software, do you use that too??

I had the same problem. Open you WMDC and go into Mobile Device Settings and select Connection Settings. Under Allow connection to one of the following: change the selection from Bluetooth to COM7.
Then open your device and set up your bluetooth connection again. You should see Activesync now.
You are most likely using the Toshiba Bluetooth Stack instead of WIDCOMM.

IT IS NOT WORKING
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
this is so STUPID
when i try to set up on my phone then it says "you have no partner for activeysnc, get one?"
i say YES and choose my computer
then i can select a port a one point and i CANT select 7
whats the solution!=?!

From your response I think you are trying to set the COM port on your device but you should be changing it in Windows Mobile Device Center.
I'll go step by step in case I was not clear.
1- Disconnect your Wing from your computer.
2- Open Windows Mobile Device Center
3- The only option should be "Mobile Device Settings"
4- In Mobile Device Settings you should have two option Connection Settings and End a partnership, select Connection Settings.
5- Under the second check box "Allow connection to one of the following" there is a drop-down box which should currently read "Bluetooth". In the drop-down box change that selection to COM7.
Note: If COM7 is not available, then I suggest you uninstall your Bluetooth device drivers and then reinstall them.
6- Close Windows Mobile Device Center
Now return to your device.
Delete any existing Bluetooth connections to your computer. and reestablish your Bluetooth connection. You don't need to change any COM settings on your device. Just establish your connection and you should have the Activesync option once it is reconnected.
This is under the assumption that you are running the Toshiba Bluetooth Stack on your computer. If you are and it doesn't work, I'm all out of ideas.

I should have specified that as of Step 2 above, this is all done on your computer not your smartphone, i.e. HTC Wings.
Your problem with Bluetooth is on the computer not the device, most likely.

this doesnt work... i did all the things like u told me on the computer.
then i go to my phone and try to connect from activesync via bluetooth and it says that no computer with a partnership could be found?? even though i actually made bluetooth partnership with my pc. when i added my pc to my bluetooth devices list on my HTC it told me that my pc supported 2 services: stereo audio and com port. i ticked com port... it doesnt seem to help.
on my pc, when i open the bluetooth stack software from toshiba i can see my phone has a partnership with my pc. but it has a network symbol on it.. is this supposed to be like that? ah this is so frustrating? any suggestions?

The only difference I see between your set up and mine is that I don't have a connection appearing on my computer.
So when you open your Bluetooth Settings on the computer, I don't have a saved connection with my Smartphone. The only place I see a connection between my computer and my device is on the device itself.
So my last suggestion is to delete both connections. The one on your computer and then the one on your device.
Open your device and reestablish a connection from your device to your computer. You will be asked to enter the password on your computer but when you open your Bluetooth Settings, you may not see a saved connection.
Also, go back and make sure that in Windows Mobile Device Centre, the connection is for COM7 and has not reverted back to Bluetooth. What you described has only ever happened on my computer when the connection was not set to COM7.

Something currious happened with my device when I was reestablishing my Bluetooth connection, which may be of interest to you.
I erased my original Bluetooth connection and while reestablishing it my device was also connected to my computer with the USB cable. When I paired the device, there was no option for ActiveSync. I disconnected my device and then started the Bluetooth pairing over and this time ActiveSync was available.
Does this help?

Any of you guys who have sucessfully pairedd WDMC in Vista with S730 over bluetooth use original MS out-of-box bluetooth drivers?

I've only used the Toshiba and Widcomm Bluetooth Stacks and have been able to sync with both on Vista.

dagobert_29 said:
The only difference I see between your set up and mine is that I don't have a connection appearing on my computer.
So when you open your Bluetooth Settings on the computer, I don't have a saved connection with my Smartphone. The only place I see a connection between my computer and my device is on the device itself.
So my last suggestion is to delete both connections. The one on your computer and then the one on your device.
Open your device and reestablish a connection from your device to your computer. You will be asked to enter the password on your computer but when you open your Bluetooth Settings, you may not see a saved connection.
Also, go back and make sure that in Windows Mobile Device Centre, the connection is for COM7 and has not reverted back to Bluetooth. What you described has only ever happened on my computer when the connection was not set to COM7.
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there is the problem: "You will be asked to enter the password on your computer but when you open your Bluetooth Settings, you may not see a saved connection."
because as soon as i enter the bluetooth password on my phone and computer, there appears a bluetooth connection in the manager from toshiba. this connection has a "network" symbol and the services offered are com port and stereo audio. thats not much is it? and also when i click "connect" an error comes up.. connection couldnt be established or something.
i hate this. how can be a SIMPLE task so problematic?
toshiba drivers are working fine. send and receive works. and my phone is fine too. the wmdc work fine as well via USB. i also installed the wmdc UPDATE..... wtf right?!

Hey A.Bagatov,
I'm at a complete loss to understand why you can't get WMDC to work with your phone over BT. You've done everything I've done but unlike you I was able toe stablish the connection.
The only other thing I can think of is to download the latest BT drivers from Toshiba. But before you install them, make a copy of the TosBtChk.dll file and once you've completed the installation of your new BT drivers, replace the new TosBtChk.dll with the one you saved. This will stop you from receiving the trial period notification.
If that doesn't work, then maybe replace your Toshiba BT stack with the Widcomm stack. You'll need to locate a version compatible with your computer.

i would like to get widcomm and get rid of the problems.
so where can i get the widcomm stack? and how do i figure out if its compatible with my laptop?
its sony vaio

A.Bagatov said:
i would like to get widcomm and get rid of the problems.
so where can i get the widcomm stack? and how do i figure out if its compatible with my laptop?
its sony vaio
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You have to understand Widcomm is not a free replacement for your MS drivers. Its commercial and it can only be obtained with some BT hardware, not as stanalone product AFAIK. As that, it is a bit complicated to make it work with unsupported device (but quite possible). And where to get it? Generally, if you are able to pirate, you are also able to google.
However, I assume you have legal OS installed on your Sony laptop - why not to tell MS they BT drivers SUCK A BIG TIME? Go tell them its crap that does not EVEN WORK TOGETHER WITH THEIR OWN UTILITIES.
Call 1-800-MSSUCKS

A.Bagatov said:
i would like to get widcomm and get rid of the problems.
so where can i get the widcomm stack? and how do i figure out if its compatible with my laptop?
its sony vaio
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I've also got a Sony Vaio, SZ45, and on the Notebook Review forum, there is a thread that discusses replacing the Toshiba BT stack with Widcomm, which you can get free of charge. The thread offers a modified file which should be sufficient to enable Widcommon your laptop. Here's a link to the general forum http://forum.notebookreview.com/forumdisplay.php?f=8

mpattonm said:
You have to understand Widcomm is not a free replacement for your MS drivers. Its commercial and it can only be obtained with some BT hardware, not as stanalone product AFAIK. As that, it is a bit complicated to make it work with unsupported device (but quite possible). And where to get it? Generally, if you are able to pirate, you are also able to google.
However, I assume you have legal OS installed on your Sony laptop - why not to tell MS they BT drivers SUCK A BIG TIME? Go tell them its crap that does not EVEN WORK TOGETHER WITH THEIR OWN UTILITIES.
Call 1-800-MSSUCKS
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Microsoft are not the developers of the Widcomm Bluetooth Stack, it's owned by Broadcom. It can be obtained for free, however, you're right in saying it may not work with non-Broadcom hardware. In A.Bagatov's case, the issue is with Toshiba not Microsoft. They are the one's who developed a driver that is not always compatible with non-Toshiba products.
According to other posts I've, the Microsoft generic Bluetooth drivers would appear to work just fine with Windows Mobile devices, however, I was unable to get it working and did not pursue the matter any further once I was able to get the Toshiba BT Stack to function.
I can sympathize with your frustration, but your post does not help him solve his problem.

WM6 USB, bluetooth problems

I upgraded my blue angel to WM6, which is brilliant. Only problems I'm getting are: turning off the phone from the menu leaves the green led flashing, and the phone can't be turned back on without a soft reset. That I can live with.
Second, it seems the upgraded rom doesn't use a serial connection over USB any longer, which is a pain, as I use Linux and the device doesn't appear as /dev/ttyUSB0 any more
Thirdly, when using wm2003 I was able to add my Linux box as a NAT router and surf via bluetooth. The router was discoverable, and the PAN service appeared on the list of services, now it doesn't, and I have no way of using the internet via bluetooth any more. Any suggestions welcome. I like using the upgraded rom too much to go back.

I can help with the USB over serial change. (I am also a linux user). search for rndis kernel module and use it with opensync and a perl plugin for opensync. I am sorry I don't have the names, but I have not yet fully configured it and am syncing in XP inside vmware. I plan on readdressing this as soon as I got a break from work.
Sorry for being vague but I expect that if you successfully synced WM2003 and linux you will be able to use these hints with skill.

Appreciate it, thanks I'll look into that. It seems the rom upgrade syncs via TCP/IP, as xp needs its DHCP service enabled for activesync to work. With wm2003, I was able to sync with my Debian box over bluetooth and wifi as well as the cradle with synCE, which was very nice, and I miss it now it's gone. I'll persevere.

Just bumping this thread to say it's all working, syncing nicely with evolution. The Ubuntu howto in the link below applied equally to my Debian installation as far as packages were concerned (well, Ubuntu's Debian-based after all) and with appropriate changes here and there should help users of other Linux distros too.
http://www.synce.org/moin/SynceWithUbuntu

Serial Port Profile for GPS2Blue

Hi,
I'm trying to get GPS2Blue to work and managed to get a connection between my Kaiser and my desktop (with a dongle using the Toshiba Bluetooth stack) by creating an outgoing port on the Kaiser (start-settings-connections-bluetooth-com ports-new outgoing port-DESKTOP-next).
I am successfully paired with a Lenovo T61 using the internal bluetooth with a broadcom stack (Vista Bunsiness x64), but while the Desktop advertises 'Serial Port' and 'ActiveSync' as bluetooth services, the T61 stack only advertises 'ActiveSync' 'Wireless Stereo' and 'Headset'. As a result, I can't add an outgoing port to the laptop and GPS2Blue doesn't work.
Does anyone know how to tell the broadcom stack to tell the kaiser that it has SPP (Serial Port Profile) available for it? Using GPS2Blue over TCP/IP is not an option because the virtual com port driver currently doesn't support Vista x64.
This has been bugging me for a loooong time, I'd really appreciate any help with this. Thanks!
Lncdoc

OK, 2 things.
Firstly, GPS2Blue doesn't need an Outgoing port on the Kaiser, but an Incoming one. Then, you discover services on the phone, from the PC, and you'll have a serial port you should connect to. Not the other way around like you were saying. Now, WM6/6.1 don't let the user set an incoming port from the BT configuration page anymore, so a manual registry edit is necessary. Attached is a .reg file that will set an incoming port on COM6.
Apply this, soft reset. Then run GPS2Blue, set it to use COM6, discover services from the PC, connect to the serial port, and connect to whatever serial port the stack maps it on the PC with your GPS program.
Secondly (but now unrelated!), if from the phone you'd like to see a serial port on the PC, there are 2 solutions. Firstly look for an "add new seral port" option in your BT stack on the PC, some support multiple ones.
If there's none, you should open activesync connection page, disable serial connection. On the Phone the Arcivesync entry will now revert to serial port. To have AS again, reenable the COM port connection in AS.

Thanks a lot! That worked like a charm. After Vista with the Broadcom stack forced the use of COM9, I changed it manually to COM5 in the device manager (For reference of other people wanting to do this: Device Manager / Ports (COM & LPT) / Standard Serial over Bluetooth link (COMn) / Right Click / Properties / Port Settings / Advanced / COM Port Number), since some software (like MeHere) only supports up to COM8.
Now everything works like a charm on my laptop.
Note that this weirdly enough also works with an Outgoing port on the Kaiser if you have a stack (on your PC) which broadcasts the availability of an incoming serial port (in which case the Kaiser initiates the connection, not the PC, and the COM Port sends regardless of whether something is connected or not...). Not that I'm recommending this route to anyone, but I got this working on the Toshiba stack.
Anyway, thanks a lot again, it's finally working perfectly with OziExplorer, MeHere, Google Earth.... you name it.
Lncdoc

Arrrrgggg! I am so close. The incoming BT port bit helped me to get connected but, although GPS2Blue is gettting a lock, and I appear to be connected to EarthBridge/PC, the GPS data doesn't appear to be transmitted to Earthbridge/PC. Google Earth keeps putting me off the coast of Africa instead of south Florida.
I'm about ready to go pickup a copy of Streets & Trips with GPS.

GPS2Blue 1.9
I allready got .reg file on my computer.
The only thing i don't understand is how to get the incomming port on my laptop....
Greetz
Peter

Loaded the appropriate reg values...nothing. Still doesn't work. I can't see the port on the PC or Handheld under "Bluetooth Services".

Thanks kilrah
Your solutions works great for me and i have tested this with my i900 and two different notebooks running Windows 7 and Windows XP
Works in both notebooks
I was using Garmin Mobile PC Version 5
Thanks again for your great help

thx kilrah
'elpetah1984' you must import registry value to PDA windows not PC
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8429209#post8429209

F I N A L L Y !!!!!!!
I've finally managed to do it!!! Oh man.. what a fight! almost 4 am and trying since days.. eheheh it is really rewarding! Will be doing a tutorial to avoid hours and hours of frustation to anyone trying this!

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F I N A L L Y !!!!!!!
I've finally managed to do it!!! Oh man.. what a fight! almost 4 am and trying since days.. eheheh it is really rewarding! Will be doing a tutorial to avoid hours and hours of frustation to anyone trying this!
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That'd be great!
Did you get it to work with many apps? I remember one time I managed to get it set (don't know how, can't reproduce my semi-success) so I could share the ActiveSync port and in Windows I could open the COM port on PuTTY to see the NEMA output but only a couple apps recognized that there was a GPS there -- the main thing I wanted to work (inSSIDer) couldn't see any GPS.
I'd definately be interested if you came up with a reliable way to make it work.

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-- the main thing I wanted to work (inSSIDer) couldn't see any GPS.
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I saw your post @ metageek forums, because I too am unable to make it work with either version of inSSIDer, although Netstumbler saw it nice and easy. Thing is: I have Vista, and Netstumbler doesn't like Vista like me
I'm gonna get a XP lappy tomorrow which battery only works for half an hour but hey, it's a start

iRiKi said:
I saw your post @ metageek forums, because I too am unable to make it work with either version of inSSIDer, although Netstumbler saw it nice and easy. Thing is: I have Vista, and Netstumbler doesn't like Vista like me
I'm gonna get a XP lappy tomorrow which battery only works for half an hour but hey, it's a start
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Good luck, XP is out of the question for me because HP doesn't provide Bluetooth drivers back to before Vista. Maybe I can find a way to forward the COM port and a USB WiFi adapter through VirtualBox and use XP that way...though I've been unsuccessful with either of those so far.

Actually you can forward the USB device to Oracle's Virtualbox, I have my TP-Lnk USB WiFi forwarding into a linux virtual machine working perfectly in monitor mode with kismet and aircrack I don't think you can forward COM ports tho, but if you have an external USB bluetooth adapter you can also forward it into XP!! Will try that asap!
Thing is, I wanted to use the onboard wireless because it's way more sensitive than the external USB adapter, but it's not possible to forward it inside a virtualbox.
Ahhh computer issues.. always bugging me since 1993 XD

iRiKi said:
Actually you can forward the USB device to Oracle's Virtualbox, I have my TP-Lnk USB WiFi forwarding into a linux virtual machine working perfectly in monitor mode with kismet and aircrack
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I got bad news and good news.
Bad news:
The USB forwarding of my wireless card works under Linux but FAILS under a XP VM!!! %$#*@#!"#
Good news:
Downloaded Franson GpsGate trial and now inSSIDer is working !!!!

Bluetooth

Hi,
I just bought a Bluetooth dongle for my PC. (Trust Ultra Small Bluetooth 2.1 Usb Adapter 25 M)
The main reasons for buying this was so I could sync without using one of my very spare USB ports.
Another big reason was that I really want to try SideShow.
So, I hooked the thing up, installed it. Works like a charm for most services (files etc). It just doesn't work for two things: ActiveSync (on the phone)/Windows Device Center (on my PC) and Windows SideShow. Yay.
Could you please help me out?
To summarize:
PC with Vista Home Premium,
Trust Ultra Small Bluetooth 2.1 Usb Adapter 25 M,
HTC S730.
Not working for ActiveSync nor SideShow.
x5x_tim
PS: I installed something called "X86-PC Drivers.cab" I found in some thread. That's supposed to be the drivers for the SideShow service on the PC. (I think I installed them, I did not get an error from Rundll32...)
EDIT: what might be of use: I can't get the devices to pair if I use the PC to initiate that. The PC does not find the phone untill I pair them using to phone to initiate.

I don't know about SideShow but I managed once to ActiveSync my Wings through Bluetooth. Just be sure to remove any security restricition on your Bluetooth settings on your device. Like Secure Connection etc... Also, setup a serial port when you connect with your PC and then, at PC ActiveSync settings, at connection settings -> Allow Connections To One Of The Following (Com 4 or whatever). And then, at ActiveSync on your mobile, connect through Bluetooth. Try it and come again if it doesn't work.

Yes! Thank you. It's syncing as I type. That COM4 did the trick!

In the same way, you can have Internet on your mobile through Bluetooth's activesync connection. It is helpful if you don't have wifi on your mobile.