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Hiya People Just writing to let you know that i'm a windows vista beta tester and it will not accept downgrading the blue angel from windows mobile 5 to any rom of any sort on vista as it complains that the device is not compatable for the rom (another bloody problem made by Microsoft)
I tried my BA which runs WM2003SE (not gone WM5 ever) on Vista pre_RC1 last week. It only saw it as a MP3 player, I tried everything to delete the profiles Vista created so that I could educate Vista that it was a little more than a bloody MP3 player without sucess. So lets hope RC1 or later sorts that out as MS state compatibility with both WM2003SE and WM5. Perhaps it was not your BA, perhaps MS have not got Sync Centre working yet (forgive my ignorance if this is not the case) for anything other than basic MP3 players and Media Player 11!
I think the problem here is Activesync (or rather lack of it).
For those of you who don't know, Vista will not let AS be installed on it as it has been replaced by Windows Mobile Device Center. On the newer builds it is actually disable but I am informed it is still there - don't worry.
The tool used to upgrade AND downgrade the BA requires AS for the connection and I believe that is why it is failing.
(WMDC has been disabled on builds 5536 (Pre-RC1), the leaked 5552 (Pre-RC1) and 5600 (RC1 itself)).
vista+wm5
i also tester of vista and i even install the last rc1 of vista but the bif problem
that it no way to make acticsync you get the error message as i look over
the net its seem that microsft is aware of this bug i also hope so
in vista you don't have to use activesync , there is integrated application for syncronizing, i have posted screenshots before, search the forums.
In pre RC1 build this application does not work, but in previous versions it has worked just fine with my Blueangel with WM5
So wait a lil if you want all to work smooth, this OS is still in development stages, the bugs have been fixed every day in it
I am Vista technical beta tester too
RC1
I just got the RC 1 Download email. Its coming down now. Hope things improve.
rc1 just came out.. tested it for about a week.. plugged my BA in.. nothing. it recognized it as an mp3 player. anyway... the replacement for activesync (windows mobile device center) isnt included because there are many bugs at the moment.. but i am told that they are almost done and whoever does have vista will soon see the wmdc in windows update
nstefanelli
ok i have a leagal copy of vista from microsoft and you cannot install active sync, on trying to install lots of games i have for my pda and xda2`s will not allow the games to be installed unless active sync is installed any ideas to get round this problem?
im shocked that microsoft as not made it compatable with vista
xda2`s said:
im shocked that microsoft as not made it compatable with vista
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To make your BA compatable with Vista download Windows Mobile Device Center Driver Update from offsite.Choose the package?depending what OS you running - x86 or x64! And you will be able to sync all your contacts,data,programs...
Windows Mobile Device Center replaced Activesync in Vista.
I had the same problem, with the orginal Windows Mobil Device Manager which you get with vista you can only sync files, but nothing else.
You have to download Mobil Device Manager Beta 3, after installing this one you can make a full sync with your pda.
Greatz MonsyX
i did just that..but as soon as i plug in my BA sync center makes an error nd i get the close or debug window...whatever i do..it remains open nd u can browse and sync pictures but no contacts or installations...nd activesync on my BA wont connect..its always waiting for network!
if u use wm5 on your ba try this setting on your ba: start => settings => connections => usb to pc = and check "enabe advanced network functionaliity"
Greets MonsyX
thanks guys the update worked a treat on my xda2`s with helmi upgrade
its already enabled....i've been tweaking with setting for a month now (i've had vista for 2 months) nd i cant get it to work :S
i think there's some service in vista thats disabled or something..i just cant figure it out...btw...i also have office 2007 (outlook) if that helps...if anyone knows of something else that can sync my contacts with outlook plz tell me.
btw..helmi...u took the data backup prog from ur latest rom..where can i get it from?
Hello, you are sure you have e release version of vista?, because i sync my pda every day with my computer with the things i told here, you can try die delete the device from devicemanager and let the system find it with the new drivers form the mobil device manager beta 3.
After i istall the MDM3 my system find a new deivce and install it.
Somting is wrong with your system.
I use outlook 2002 on vista, it's a little bit buggy ( every startup it want make a new profil), but i have not a newer one.
Greets MonsyX
yeah i have the pre-release final version..build 6000...but it seems that there's something buggy with the installation...i'm gonna reinstall windows nd see wat happens.
thx.
Theres no such thing as a pre-release final version!
You have the final version which was released 30th November 2006 to large companies, and to the general public on the 30th January 2007.
i have the final version...but i got it before nov30....which makes it pre-release...anyways its the same windows....the final build...nd thats not the point of my question!
anyone knows anything abt the backup program that used to come with helmi's rom?
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anyone knows anything abt the backup program that used to come with helmi's rom?
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Just copy files from attach to Windows dir on your BA,run it.
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Just copy files from attach to Windows dir on your BA,run it.
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just as a reminder, this tool will not let u restore the backup on different version of wm5.
say you backup on aku3.2, then u upgrade to aku3.5, the restore would not work.
ActiveSync is a better tool to backup contacts, calendar ......
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OK i will say to everyone that official presentation of vista and office2007 is after few hours, so comments like i have vista from microsoft legally are just ridiculous, and the ridiculous part is not that someone have it, but that this someone do not know how to connect hes pocketpc to it. Only people that have vista before the official launch are large OEMs and Small group of beta testers which recieved thir copies as reward of beta testing. These are the two legal ways of having vista.
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I got mine through the Beta program. It wasn't released on 30th November by the way, its original release was 8th November to MSDN subscribers.
/ontopic - I do however have a lot of problems with the Sync Center and my BA. I've not actually got it to sync properly yet on RTM.
Has anyone got any thoughts on the new system? Does the ActiveSync replacement:
1) allow more than one device to be connected?
2) avoid duplicate items?
Cheers!
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@Biohead: yeah i forgot about MSDN subscribers you are right, but I am mad about that everyone claims that they have licensed vista and they are not MVP's, MSDN Subscribers, Technical Beta Testers or OEM's, why they are trying to lie, i was in the beta test, i have tested every version provided on connect, and i have not recieved a copy of vista, maybe guys who provided more bugs had copys. whatever i will buy it maybe after SP1 because it really needs a lot of patching. Vista is not what it was promissed to be(look at longhorn demos a way back and you will understand what i mean)
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I have problems with it too, The first time it syncs fine, after that it does not work at all or crash upon connecting.The temporary Fifx for this is remove the WMDC and reinstall it. I think it is not BA specific issue it is all WM device specific one. How we can not have problems with activesync under XP?
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@Biohead: yeah i forgot about MSDN subscribers you are right, but I am mad about that everyone claims that they have licensed vista and they are not MVP's, MSDN Subscribers, Technical Beta Testers or OEM's, why they are trying to lie, i was in the beta test, i have tested every version provided on connect, and i have not recieved a copy of vista, maybe guys who provided more bugs had copys. whatever i will buy it maybe after SP1 because it really needs a lot of patching. Vista is not what it was promissed to be(look at longhorn demos a way back and you will understand what i mean)
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I have problems with it too, The first time it syncs fine, after that it does not work at all or crash upon connecting.The temporary Fifx for this is remove the WMDC and reinstall it. I think it is not BA specific issue it is all WM device specific one. How we can not have problems with activesync under XP?
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i dont know how valid this is right now...since vista is already out...but here's proof that my version is genuine...
i could send u pics of the intallation cds if u want!
anyway...all i needed to know is whether the sync center was buggy or not...nd it seems that i'm not the only one with this problem....btw...a simple solution to this problem would be to install TinyXP on a Vmware workstation nd sync ur BA on that...its a hassle...but it works.
Remember, Sync Center IS STILL IN BETA!!!
hello :
I have read before I write this
is there any vista virsion for pda2k
please help and I want the url for downloading
thanks
Windows Vista is a PC platform, and no version is available for Pocket PC! In 2012, it is expected that a processor will be created for a handheld, capable of running Vista. If you can wait that long, I can assure you that at first it will be expensive!
No, you cannot run Vista on a PDA2K.
The project codenamed "crossbow" is soon to be released as a Pocket PC Operating System, and is reported to be LINKED heavily with Vista - that is not to say that it is Vista Mobile.
Our techie gods are currently attempting to port it to the Blue Angel, and I wish them the best of luck.
Hi there. Few days ago I changed my OS from XP to Vista. From that time I couldnt sync my Diamond. I have got SP1 and all updates. I wanted install Windows Mobile Device Center Update but when the instalattion was nearly at 99% it reversed at uninstall without any message. I havent any Windows Mobile Device Center icon between programs but I have this icon in Control Panel. I can connect my Diamond to laptop, I can transfer files for example but there is no tasks or contacts sync. Can anybody help me? I treid many thinks I found on the Internet but still no solution. I checked the Firewall as well and the related applications are allowed. I even tried to switch off the firewall but didnt help me.
So I found the solution by myself. Maybe it wil be useful for somebody. Before installing Windows Mobile Device Center Update you should do at least the following:
- update graphic driver at the newest one,
- update all Microsoft Windows Mobile Remore Adapter related things.
Important: the mobile must be conneected to the computer during searching for updates and installing them as well.
My computer is ASUS eeePC 1000H. Now it works like charm.
I have only one thing to say about Vista:
Its an amazing OS I love Vista.
Waiting patiently for Window 7.
Greets.
Sergio PC said:
I have only one thing to say about Vista:
Its an amazing OS I love Vista.
Waiting patiently for Window 7.
Greets.
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I guess you jokiing
well, it's not the forum for Vista, but i must say
Vista It's piss of ****...
1. My daughter got Laptop with Vista (Toshiba), during 4 month she had to Re install OS (and all programs) after Vista made Auto Update and could not recover from it..
2. Many programs I bought for her with good money, could not
run on the Vista.
3. Vista it's like forest.. so many trees , so you could not see the forest
Hi guys,
as I read through the threads the upgrade to Win 7, same as the downgrade to Win XP, always requires the new installation of all software application programs that are not bundled with the OS.
i.e. MS Office, FireFox, Navigation software, ......
In June 2009 various news sites confirmed this obstacle.
In the last days I read that there will be (possibly) an upgrade that will not require the user to re-install the application layer programs.
Can anyone confirm or deny this statement.
And if it's confirmed will it be possible for the Shift?
Thnx a lot, guys
If you are upgrading from Vista, it is fine - you can do an in place upgrade and it will bring all your installed programs across.
If you have downgraded to XP, the only way to upgrade whilst preserving all your install programs is to upgrade to Vista first, and the upgrade to Win7 - there is no direct path from XP to Win7.
Regards,
Dave
Yeah, but Vista is still lurking, isn't it?
I'd rather endure installing everything twice (XP and Win7) than have Vista anywhere near my Shift!
In fact I did
foxmeister said:
If you are upgrading from Vista, it is fine - you can do an in place upgrade and it will bring all your installed programs across.
If you have downgraded to XP, the only way to upgrade whilst preserving all your install programs is to upgrade to Vista first, and the upgrade to Win7 - there is no direct path from XP to Win7.
Regards,
Dave
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Hi Dave,
thnx for your information.
I haven't done any downgrading (XP), not even the SP1 for Vista.
I have only liberated the Shift.
The OS is as shipped from HTC, only application programs installed.
If I do an inplace upgrade, will it get rid of all the Vista stuff that slows down the device? Meaning, will it be as good as a "complete from scratch" installation of Win 7?
Second, which version of Win 7 should I get? Home, Professional, RC?
And where do I get it?
Thnx a lot, cheers
baucis99
Yesterday I made a full backup image of my Vista installation. Then I upgraded my HTC Shift to Windows 7 Enterprise RTM from MSDN.
The upgrade process took 3 hours, because it had to migrate 300.000 files and settings from one OS to the other. Before the setup I had 15GiB free on the HDD and after that 18GiB where free! So upgrading Vista to Windows 7 won't leave any old memory chunk on the HDD.
I only had to reinstall the Touchscreen Drivers. Everything else was still there: Several network shares, desktop widgets, explorer settings, all the applications with theirs settings, my two Outlook profiles with their on Exchange setups and so on.
Windows 7 itself also responds faster than with Vista. With the same auto-start applications I have more free RAM available and the OS itself looks much better.
So I can only recommend you to upgrade your Vista to Windows 7.
There is no need for a clean install, as long as your current Vista setup isn't anyhow broken.
After this Windows 7 experience I hope that the prejudice against Windows upgrades will be a thing of the past.
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For the Windows 7 upgrade your Vista needs to have SP1 at least. I upgraded a Vista with SP2 and the latest Windows Update patches. The setup has to be started within Vista, otherwise it won't allow an upgrade. And you don't need to burn the Windows 7 DVD. You can mount it in Vista into a virtual drive or you can extract the ISO files to an folder. Before the first reboot the setup copies all the necessary installation files onto the local HDD. So after that the DVD isn't needed anymore.
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Yesterday I made a full backup image of my Vista installation. Then I upgraded my HTC Shift to Windows 7 Enterprise RTM from MSDN.
The upgrade process took 3 hours, because it had to migrate 300.000 files and settings from one OS to the other. Before the setup I had 15GiB free on the HDD and after that 18GiB where free! So upgrading Vista to Windows 7 won't leave any old memory chunk on the HDD.
I only had to reinstall the Touchscreen Drivers. Everything else was still there: Several network shares, desktop widgets, explorer settings, all the applications with theirs settings, my two Outlook profiles with their on Exchange setups and so on.
Windows 7 itself also responds faster than with Vista. With the same auto-start applications I have more free RAM available and the OS itself looks much better.
So I can only recommend you to upgrade your Vista to Windows 7.
There is no need for a clean install, as long as your current Vista setup isn't anyhow broken.
After this Windows 7 experience I hope that the prejudice against Windows upgrades will be a thing of the past.
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For the Windows 7 upgrade your Vista needs to have SP1 at least. I upgraded a Vista with SP2 and the latest Windows Update patches. The setup has to be started within Vista, otherwise it won't allow an upgrade. And you don't need to burn the Windows 7 DVD. You can mount it in Vista into a virtual drive or you can extract the ISO files to an folder. Before the first reboot the setup copies all the necessary installation files onto the local HDD. So after that the DVD isn't needed anymore.
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Well i followed these steps - and when windows 7 boots the touch screen did not work as stated - so i downloaded the drivers from the HTC shift page, installed them. Although they did not error - they also did not work - seems to install properly but still not touch screen.
Also when I put the screen to 1024x600 the device bluescreened as it did in the pre-release versions..
Has anyone got Win 7 working (MSDN Release) and all hardware working; if so please share your steps.
Thanks
Kris
baucis99 said:
econd, which version of Win 7 should I get? Home, Professional, RC?
And where do I get it?
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MS have stopped distributing the RC now, but they will still provide product keys for it until Oct'09 (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/get/download.aspx).
You can get the full RTM version of Win7 if you have an MSDN or Technet subscription, but otherwise you'll have to search the usual sources for a copy of the RC iso (not promoting warez here!).
Regards,
Dave
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Well i followed these steps - and when windows 7 boots the touch screen did not work as stated - so i downloaded the drivers from the HTC shift page, installed them. Although they did not error - they also did not work - seems to install properly but still not touch screen.
Also when I put the screen to 1024x600 the device bluescreened as it did in the pre-release versions..
Has anyone got Win 7 working (MSDN Release) and all hardware working; if so please share your steps.
Thanks
Kris
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Hello,
please try to uninstall the the VistaECDrvV1[1].0.1.10 driver first, then reboot, install it again and reboot again. Afaik I did this to activate the touchscreen driver.
Good luck!
And about 1024x600: That is a known problem. The Intel driver creates a BSOD as soon as you use a resolution higher than 800x480. The current workaround is to disable the Aero effects. With Aero Basic you can switch to higher resolutions without crashing the system.
I hope this will be fixed soon.
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Hello,
please try to uninstall the the VistaECDrvV1[1].0.1.10 driver first, then reboot, install it again and reboot again. Afaik I did this to activate the touchscreen driver.
Good luck!
And about 1024x600: That is a known problem. The Intel driver creates a BSOD as soon as you use a resolution higher than 800x480. The current workaround is to disable the Aero effects. With Aero Basic you can switch to higher resolutions without crashing the system.
I hope this will be fixed soon.
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Ahh ok I didn't uninstall the previous driver 1st just tried to install over it. And I got the impression from #5 that the aero thing would work now - looks like ill be sticking with vista then thanks neway.
Kris
HTC shift (clio 160)
I had to format my htc shift (CLIO 160) and reinstall a new vista ultimate.
But since i done this, wifi and touchscreen doesnt work anymore.
I went on HTC website and downloaded the drivers for MARVELL SD8686 WIRELESS LAN SDIO ADAPTER and driver for touchscreen but it still not working.
Could you please help me.
Thank you