BT 2 devices. Is it possible? - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading

I was sure that with Bluetooth you could use two devices simultaneously. I mean for a sample, GPS receiver and handsfree kit. Is that possible? Is it just a problem of the BT stack or it's related to BlueAngel hardware?
Or perhaps it's just that BT protocol does not allow it? Does anybody know?
Thanks in advance.

BT 2 Devices. Autoanswer.
OK, I found it myself. At least with Widcomm stack, it can be done. MS stack didn't let me do it before. I'll try again. Has anybody tried it before?

2 BT devices
Yes, I have a BT car kit and a BT GPS - both work fine together with my BA (and my Wizard)

Re: 2 BT devices
cgrillo said:
Yes, I have a BT car kit and a BT GPS - both work fine together with my BA (and my Wizard)
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Are you using WM5? Can you browse your contacts from your car kit? If so, which rom are you using? I'm getting mad about this...
Thank you very much in advance.

u certainly should be able to use several BT devices wuth on (pocket) PC.
now whether this'll work with Blueangel/Windoze Mobile is another question.

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Bluetooth Car Kit AND Bluetooth GPS - XDA II

Please excuse me ignorance on this. I wish to install a BT Car Kit soon and later a BT GPS both for use in conjunction with my XDA II. Can anyone confirm that I can use BOTH devices in my car with the XDA II?
A colleague tells me that to have both devices working with the XDA II via Bluetooth will probably not work. If he is right I will go BT Car kit and wired GPS.
Plus does anyone have experience of the Original Parrot DriveBlue Bluetooth Car Kit (Just plugs into the cigar lighter socket no installation required (easily moved from car to car) , working in conjunction with the XDA II? Any advice or experience appreciated. Thanks, Steve
i sugest that you look around in the xda2 forum to see which
bluetooth devices people have gotten to work with the xda2
my guess is that many xda2 owners dont look much in this forum
since xda2 is pretty new
and most posts here are aboub accessories for the xda1
bt in your car
Steve, I have been using my Jabra BT200 and TomTom BT GPS together in my car without problems (after using Towa's fix). Have read that others have used many different combinations of handsfree & gps thru bt. Hope this helps!
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Chop! said:
Steve, I have been using my Jabra BT200 and TomTom BT GPS together in my car without problems (after using Towa's fix). Have read that others have used many different combinations of handsfree & gps thru bt. Hope this helps!
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Chop, thanks for this. Please excuse my ignorance but a more learned colleague has asked me to ask if Towa's fix (to sort out the GPS/BT problem) is a software patch or a firmware fix? Do you know the answer to this? Many thanks for your help. Steve
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Steve Grunnill said:
Chop, thanks for this. Please excuse my ignorance but a more learned colleague has asked me to ask if Towa's fix (to sort out the GPS/BT problem) is a software patch or a firmware fix? Do you know the answer to this? Many thanks for your help. Steve
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Here are the links, I'm not a 'techie', I just know that these BT tools transformed my infuriatingly unconnectable XDA II into one that lived up to all the promises!
http://www.angeltowns.com/town/bluetooth or http://bluetooth.i-networx.de
I found this well worth a paypal donation. Hope this helps you out!
Towa rocks!
Bluetooth car kit Sony errikson hcb-30 + bluetooth GPS
Hello every tis is my first post- :mrgreen:
Has any one tried this combination this yet? Will the spoken instructions of the GPS software ( Tomtom , Alturion etc ) that recieves signals from the bluetooth reciever be heard over the car kit "hands free" speaker from the Sony Erikkson Hcb-30 carkit?
Second question , Can I dial from the Sony Erikkson Hcb-30 carkit?
Thanks fo the reply!
:lol:

Nokia Bluetooth Car kit with HP6315

I know this is for only XDA devices, & I tried searching but I didnt see anything except for 1 post. http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=11128&highlight=nokia+car+kit
But I thought I might try you guys here.
I have posted on other HP related sites as well for the same problem.
This site was so usefull when I had my Siemens SX56.
The only thing I wanted to know is if anyone knows if there is any add on driver I can add to it to make the hp6315 bond with my nokia bluetooth carkit model # CARK112.
I cant seem to get it to bond?
I did get my Jabra BT200 to bond and work correctly.
This is what nokia says about it?
*Compatible phones must support the Bluetooth 1.1 specification and Handsfree profile.
As far as I know the hp 6315 doesn't support handsfree only headset?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
...have you tried the "explore a BT device" in the BT connection wizard, not the "handsfree/headset" set-up? I paired it together once & it worked fine...I do beleive this "widcomm stack of BT" supports handsfree...
BTW, after I added another headset (my SE HBH-65) it didn't connect again, but BT is funny/finicky doing multi-device connxns...
Nokia Carkit with HP6315??????
Thanks , I will try that I will let you know.
...another tip...even better tyhan the last one that I don't think is necessary if you use this one : when pairing h-set/handsfree device about half way thru the wizard hit the tools button (I think?) & it default-checks, "show only handsfree devices", uncheck that & you should now see the carkit show-up! This of course makes no sense since the carkit is a handsfree device but it seems to work so go with it...
thanks that did the trick!!!!!!
I just yest spent some extended time with CarKit (it in my wife's car) & it wasn't very reliable. After turning the car off & then back on it would not re-establish a pairing. After resetting both iPaq & carkit (turning off & on again, I'd go thru the wizard again & it would re-establish but would duplicate the carkit on the iPaq...
Has your kit been more reliable? (I have the nokia Cark112)
nokia car kit with ipaq
No. mine has been doing the same thing.
...ya, my work around has been to delete the previous carkit pairing & re-establish itself - a new one - obviously not great but workable if you need it...btw, every Nokia phone (even the newest ones) work fine with this kit...so who knows - I may get the Nokia 9500...

ISSUE- Voice not over BT headset

Guys,
I understand you are concentrating on the WM5 upgrade and other interesting projects. Maybe, you can take a few moments out to share some of your experience with a newbie....
I am using TuMa v1.5 WM5. I am able to use BT really well (of course, the issue of BT turning off with device on stand-by remains).
I am able to connect with my TomTom and with my Cardo Scala BT headset. The problem is this: If I use the headset to initiate a call using the BT headset (by double-clicking the headset buttom to redial or by pressing the BT headset button to voice dial) the call goes through as intended BUT my voice does not go over the BT headset to the other party. Also, the voice from the other party can be heard over both, the BT headset and the phone. This problem DOES NOT appear if I make the calls using the phone with the BT headset connected to it.
Please advice. Thanks for your help and for a great forum, especuially for us newbies.
Sagar
bt headset
Select use for phone only. Perhaps then it works.
The headset is connecting to device audio, not phone audio.
sgrbhtngr said:
... I am using TuMa v1.5 WM5.
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Really? ... Wow! I'd better update my firewall again.
How'd you steal that version off my machine! 8)
For the sake of argument, I'll presume you're using v1.4, since it has the most up to date BT elements in it, but v1.3 should be very stable for BT communications as well.
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I am able to use BT really well (of course, the issue of BT turning off with device on stand-by remains).
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Yeah ... I'm still looking into this. I hope to have this working through the Microsoft Stack. The Widcomm one is still looking like a "last resort", and it really is a bit more 'ugly' to use - especially in it's compatibility and (from what I can see) reliability.
sgrbhtngr said:
I am able to connect with my TomTom and with my Cardo Scala BT headset. The problem is this: If I use the headset to initiate a call using the BT headset (by double-clicking the headset button to redial or by pressing the BT headset button to voice dial) the call goes through as intended BUT my voice does not go over the BT headset to the other party. Also, the voice from the other party can be heard over both, the BT headset and the phone. This problem DOES NOT appear if I make the calls using the phone with the BT headset connected to it.
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Hmmm ... this sounds like there is still some form of a headset audio routing issue as vastloper indicates. Try ensuring that only one profile is active at the time (headset probably).
I will shortly have all the gear I need in order to properly test this myself too.
FYI: I've now recently purchased the following devices:
- SIRF Chipset Bluetooth GPS Unit
- Motorola HT820 Stereo Bluetooth Headphones
- Jabra BT 150 Headset
- Jabra BT 330 Headset
- BlueTrek X1 Headset
And now have access to another Jabra BT 500 Headset, and another pair of Bluetooth Stereo Headphones.
So ... shortly, I will have the ability to REALLY test everything out myself in the Bluetooth realm.
Now all I need is 5 ears, and enough pockets to carry all this stuff in.
The process I used....
Thanks, vastloper and Tuatara.
Tuatara- genius AND a sense of humor... thats a rare combo! We all appreciate your efforts in bringing WM5 to us. You go out of your way to make it better for us. Thanks.
Regarding the issue on this post, just FYI- I used MOHDWADEA's process for voice command over BT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42923&highlight=
Could this cause the problem? Does this light any light-bulbs, any 'aha' moments? Please let me know- I greatly apprecaiet it.
Thanks,
Sagar
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sgrbhtngr said:
Thanks, vastloper and Tuatara.
Tuatara- genius AND a sense of humor... thats a rare combo! We all appreciate your efforts in bringing WM5 to us. You go out of your way to make it better for us. Thanks.
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You're welcome ... remember it is a 'selfish' undertaking too. I want my phone to [email protected]$#@!#!! work for me ... but it's taking some work to get it to that point.
sgrbhtngr said:
Regarding the issue on this post, just FYI- I used MOHDWADEA's process for voice command over BT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42923&highlight=
Could this cause the problem? Does this light any light-bulbs, any 'aha' moments? Please let me know- I greatly apprecaiet it.
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It's possible. I'm not entirely certain what this will change in the configuration (or versioning of replaced DLL's), but it is possible that there are compatibilty issues. Since I don't have a device with TuMa v1.3 on it anymore (one's on Alpha v1.5 testing, and the other is a AKU2 'brick' attempt at the moment), I can't even find out for you.

Jabra JX10 and Tomtom 6 Conflict

I have just bought a jabra jx10 and paired it with my BA under Helmi vamilla 1.4 ROM. Previously I was using a plantronics M2500 which worked fine with tomtom but the jabra seems to be using the same port/interfering with the gps.
When TT6 and mu BT338 gps are on, they work fine but as soon as I switch the jx10 on, tomtom loses the connection with the gps and a connection is made with the headset + I think TT tries to comunicate with the jabra as it bips regularly with TT on.
Does anyone know how two make both devices work simultaneously?
It worked perfectly with my old M2500...
anyone ?
I can't see how you are using the same port for both devices, but you may as well check.
Start - Settings - Connections - Bluetooth - Com Ports
Should see a list of devices and they should all be on diffrent "COM" numbers. It should be impossible to put two devices on the same port.
I would think you just have a headset that doesn't support more then two connections to one device, most older Bluetooth devices don't and theres still some new ones that don't. It's mainly a host thing, but not in this case. No amount of fiddling with your Blue Angel is going to fix the issue I'm afraid.
In fact, you have already stated it is not an issue with your Blue Angel as it works with your other headphones, which maybe is why no one else has replied.
I have a Htc TyTn WM6 and had a Jabra JX10 with TomTom gps receiver and it worked fine.
Two days ago my Jabra JX10 broke so I bought a Jabra JX10 Series II and now I have the same conflict as described in this post.
Can anyone please help?

Bluetooth Stack problem on Kaiser - automatically re-establishing pair

Hi all,
I have posted this question also over a 4winmobile as I cant access xda-dev from work. Hopefully someone here can help.
I've been having difficulty with my Kaiser and a Parrot MK6000 car kit. I have tested the carkit with a Nokia as well, and have some results to report to aid in troubleshooting.
The Nokia was paired with the Parrot MK6000 kit, answers and makes calls and streams audio no problem. When the car is turned off, the pairing ends, when the car is started again the pairing starts back up ... auto, no probs. In addition, if you make a call with the phone, at the end of the call the pairing is ended, but within a few seconds is re-established.
On my Kaiser, I can pair the phone and car kit, but if the connection is lost (ie the car is turned off or bluetooth is stopped on the phone) and then I turn the car back on, it will not automatically pair. It attempts to, the car kit mutes the car radio and plays a tone, but the pairing is not established by the phone. It continues to do this every 30 seconds or so, but does not establish a connection.
Also, if I make a call with the phone when it has been sucessfully paired, on ending the call, the phone will not re-establish the pairing.
My conclusion is that all of my troubles relate to the fact that the pairing will not re-establish once lost.
Is anyone able to assist? I have upgraded the Kaiser radio to 1.27.12.32 (yes ... just tonite, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349528&page=2) but have also tried radio roms 1.27.12.11 and 1.27.12.17 with no success. The ROM version is 1.81.861.0. Ive also tried installing some of the BT stacks that were developed up for the Hermes with no success. I've also installed Jetware with no sucess.
Getting very frustrated!
Adam
adamcullen said:
Hi all,
I have posted this question also over a 4winmobile as I cant access xda-dev from work. Hopefully someone here can help.
I've been having difficulty with my Kaiser and a Parrot MK6000 car kit. I have tested the carkit with a Nokia as well, and have some results to report to aid in troubleshooting.
The Nokia was paired with the Parrot MK6000 kit, answers and makes calls and streams audio no problem. When the car is turned off, the pairing ends, when the car is started again the pairing starts back up ... auto, no probs. In addition, if you make a call with the phone, at the end of the call the pairing is ended, but within a few seconds is re-established.
On my Kaiser, I can pair the phone and car kit, but if the connection is lost (ie the car is turned off or bluetooth is stopped on the phone) and then I turn the car back on, it will not automatically pair. It attempts to, the car kit mutes the car radio and plays a tone, but the pairing is not established by the phone. It continues to do this every 30 seconds or so, but does not establish a connection.
Also, if I make a call with the phone when it has been sucessfully paired, on ending the call, the phone will not re-establish the pairing.
My conclusion is that all of my troubles relate to the fact that the pairing will not re-establish once lost.
Is anyone able to assist? I have upgraded the Kaiser radio to 1.27.12.32 (yes ... just tonite, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349528&page=2) but have also tried radio roms 1.27.12.11 and 1.27.12.17 with no success. The ROM version is 1.81.861.0. Ive also tried installing some of the BT stacks that were developed up for the Hermes with no success. I've also installed Jetware with no sucess.
Getting very frustrated!
Adam
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Have you tried these registry tweaks? http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa915920.aspx
There is a know problem with the Parrot kit and you will find a thread in this forum where a member has contacted Parrrot who replied that they are addressing the issue.
This one my be usefull.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340908&highlight=parrot
NuShrike said:
Have you tried these registry tweaks? http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa915920.aspx
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Hi, thanks for that pointer ... most of what is described in that MSDN library isn't in my registry.
Im going to manually insert them all and see what happens.
A
Still no luck
I tried updating the Reg with the tweeks as suggest ... but still no luck. All i get is still the initial pair, but on disconnection, no automatic re-pairing of the device to the car kit.
Im doomed at this stage.
You're not alone. I have the same problem with my Motorola S9 headphones and Microsoft SYNC in my 2008 Ford Edge. Sometimes I have to turn BT on and off a couple of times for it to connect.
agreed
Turning the BT on and off a few times has also be part of my "solution" package.
This really isn't acceptable though. This device should automatically pair up, just like every other BT device does. BT is a protocol that should be adhered to and just work.
I have also tried this on my other WM device. It pairs a little better, but is not great. I've tried compairing the registry values of that device to my Kaiser, but I just dont understand the functionality of the reg settings enough to work out what to change.
Is there some developer out there who can help? This type of problem was experienced by us all back in the early days of the Hermes and this community sorted it out.
Can any developer out there help, like working out a port of the Widcomm BT stack for Kaiser?
a
Interesting. I have a Nokia CK-7W bluetooth car kit and the Tyn II has re-connected/connected to the kit every time. Actually more reliable than my SE K800i. Sorry that it doesn't help you.
Hey Juzzman,
nah, that doesnt help ... but does increase the frustration level!
Seems like you need to have a Nokia component in there somewhere for it to work ;-)
Anyhow, Im still convinced it is a bluetooth stack problem in the Kaiser. I'm going to try flashing one of the AT&T based roms and the other radio version and see what happens.
Cheers
Adam
I've had BT issues with all of my HTC devices, it's very frustrating.
Currently I've got a Kaiser (Orange), E650 (Orange) and a new S730, none of which work on my Pioneer headunit without Jetware.
The Kaiser with Jetware pairs up ok, but the sound is really tinny.
The E650 with Jetware sounds fine, but I can only send 150 contacts to the headunit.
The S730 doesn't pair, haven't put Jetware on it yet.
In the past I've had BT issues with M3100, C600, C500 etc etc.
Why the hell doesn't MS sort out their bloody BT stack!!!
Bluetooth problems
I am having the same problem with my JVC bluetooth unit BT1000. It will pair ok first time, allows me to make 2 calls. Will not the reestablish a connection/pairing. JVC worked fine with my sony erricson and nokia phones. Anyone found a cure to this?
Same problem with the stock AT&T rom (1.27.12.11) with the H700 headset.
Turn bluetooth on it normally sees the headset. If not turn it off and on again to get it to work. Once working it normal looses the connection after an hour or so.
Could it be a BT 2.0 Compliant issue?
I have posted this same problem earlier in xda-deveopers, on htc wiki and aximsite. Many people have viewed and are experiencing this same problem, but no one has posted any solution specific to my problem either. I hope a developer can solve this one for us. Is it a BT stack problem, or a BT 2.0 compliant problem, or a need for an updated ATT ROM to solve this issue? (I currently am using the stock ATT ROM 1.57.. that shipped with my Tilt.)
When I use my Motorola H700 with the Tilt the BT works fine, UNTIL, I use the voice speed dialing from the Tilt. Once I use the voice speed dialing directly on the Tilt, the Motorola H700 will no longer connect. I have to do a soft reset or go through the pairing process again. Once I re-establish pairing again, the H700 will continue to work fine, UNTIL, I use the voice speed dialing on the Tilt. Then we're back to having to do a soft reset to again establish H700 connection with the Tilt.
NOW, I just received a call back from an HTC tech who told me the problem is likely due to the Motorola H700 being only BT 1.2 compliant. He recommended that I try the Motorola H12, which is BT 2.0 compliant, but he could not absolutely guarantee this would solve my problem.
Does anyone know for SURE that the Motorola H12, being BT 2.0 compliant, will solve my problem? Or is there another solution?
Note: I have tried MS Voice Command 1.6 (full version), but the above problem still occurs. I have also tried Jetware, but again, no go. I am not sure that there is going to be an updated AT&T ROM to solve this issue either.
Additional Note: I have also tried other BT devices, such as the Jawbone, and the Plantronics Voyager. All do exactly the same thing as above.
Anyone have any solution? If the Motorola H12 is the solution, that would be great...
Thanks in advance.
I'm having the same problem with my new carkit. Did anyone ever find a solution to this??

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