Reasons NOT to upgrade to WM5? - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading

I've beat the learning curve and i think i'm now ready to move up to wm5. But first i was wondering if, besides the bluetooth, there are any reasons, for me NOT to move up to wm5?
thanks.

it is a little slower than 2003 but it is more stable than 2003, if bluetooth is not an issue for you try wm5 you will like it, if you not like it you can always downgrade

Its slower than 2003SE, and sometimes you feel like throwing it against a wall....more so than 2003se.
I used my friends HP ipaq, boy that thing flew (2003se) it was responsive with hardware and software buttons..must be using a faster cpu.
so a reason not to is the speed.

do you guys have yours overclocked?

Overclocking?
I do, well, techincally it's vary-clocked. I use Power Hacker which automaticly adjusts the CPU speed as needs be. In idle the CPU sits at 100Mhz and on load it jumps up to 554Mhz with various overclocking on the RAM and such like.
The fact it idles at such a low CPU seems to give me a bit more battery power to make up for the higher drain when in use.
There is a topic about overclocking on the main "Blue Angle" Forum.
As for reasons to upgrade to WM5, to be honest I've forgotten! I think it was just because of a few annoying bugs, like the BT and Wi-Fi connection issues (having to soft-reset the stupid thing everytime I want to reconnect to my home wireless.) and also just because it has a nicer layout.
You know, before my next WM5 flash I might just go back to WM2003SE for a couple of days just to remind myself what's so great about WM5....

the only problem i have w/ WM5 is the keyboard problem. lags sometimes and keys lock

Try this is rock solid and fast
http://tofclock33.free.fr/rom/XDA_WM2k5_2.01a64WWE.rar
more info here:
http://buzzdev.net/component/option...view/id,14557/catid,26/limit,15/limitstart,0/

toxicro said:
Try this is rock solid and fast
http://tofclock33.free.fr/rom/XDA_WM2k5_2.01a64WWE.rar
more info here:
http://buzzdev.net/component/option...view/id,14557/catid,26/limit,15/limitstart,0/
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Unfortunately that is for Himalaya 8)

Sorry !!! My mistake.
But is very goood !!!

A speed question.
So i've been playing around with emulators. Mainly morphgear, pocket snes, and pocket nester. To get the best performance out of the blue angel while playing very resource intensive games like legend of zelda link to the past or super mario world, (both with sound), i'm having to overclock.
So i started using pocket hack master, ( phm for the searchers).
The highest i can put my settings without it crashing and to make these games run decent looks like this.
SDRAM clock: 147.50 mhz
pxbus (internal bus) clock: 148.00 mhz
run to turbo multiplier: 2.00
Mem to run multiplier: 2.00
Turbo is 592.00 Mhz
Run is 296.00 Mhz
Now. After looking at all this information my question is how much more resource intensive is wm5 going to be? Will these roms not be able to run reliably? I'm assuming i'm just about topped out, and i'm also assuming that wm5 is going to take more juice. But i'm wondering how significant of a difference i'm facing?
Does wm5 run slower because it's more resource intensive or just slower by defualt? as in the way it's coded?

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Finally TI OMAP Overclock tools

I hv come across this overclock utility for TI OMAP, OmapClock 0.2
I have tried it on DOPOD 818, overclock up to 240MHz, runs without problem. Opening SMS dan File Explorer is now alot faster.
Anyone with TI OMAP processor should have this !!!!
It should run on Smartphone too.
main thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40284
Great find...thanks...
Works brilliantly. Thanks
Impressive! What about CPU temperature?
I'm equally impressed by the speed gains of this little program, but am somewhat concerned about other potential side-effects; like frying the CPU!! :?
Anyway, I'm using 'batti' to keep a close look on the temperature. It's qite a handy little tool.
http://pda.jasnapaka.com/batti/
Please let us all know how you get on with this program over time.
P.S. Does anybody know what temperature should NOT be exceeded by this CPU? Mine is currently at 30 degrees and it was at 24 when I started using the overclocker.
Correct me if i'm worng but the batti app looks like it shows battery temp, not cpu temp? (prehaps your battery temp ahs gone up because you've been holding your pda ;-p)
My Bad! Temp is for battery NOT CPU!!
tintoy said:
Correct me if i'm worng but the batti app looks like it shows battery temp, not cpu temp? (prehaps your battery temp ahs gone up because you've been holding your pda ;-p)
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Your absolutely right!!
Thanks for bringing my attention to this very important point. :wink:
Anyone know of an application that accurately shows the CPU temperature? :lol:
when i run in 300MHz which Mini S, it will hard reset.. I don't know why
hi minhbu_sg,
when i drive a 90° curve with my car at 100 miles per hour i always have to leave the road just kidding. the reason for hard reset is just of physical nature. you have exceeded the limits of your built-in omap cpu. at 300mhz it does something but not what it is supposed to do. same thing when you have, let's say, a glass of whisky. having one glass of whisky does slightly influence your cpu (brain) and everything you are trying to do is a little bit easier (at least you feel so) but having a bottle of whisky drives you doing things you don't want to do at all.
so keep overclocking you omap moderately and you get the best benefit out of it.
regards
peter
300 mhz
hi
i install this software and i put my device clock to 300 and it stop working.
i try soft reset but it didn't start. and i try to hard reset it also didn't go
please help what should i do.
thanking you in advanced
when i drive a 90° curve with my car at 100 miles per hour i always have to leave the road just kidding. the reason for hard reset is just of physical nature. you have exceeded the limits of your built-in omap cpu. at 300mhz it does something but not what it is supposed to do. same thing when you have, let's say, a glass of whisky. having one glass of whisky does slightly influence your cpu (brain) and everything you are trying to do is a little bit easier (at least you feel so) but having a bottle of whisky drives you doing things you don't want to do at all.
so keep overclocking you omap moderately and you get the best benefit out of it.
regards
peter[/quote]
i installed this on my kjam and worked great with noticeable speed boost, BUT....
when i suspend the kjam, and open it again, the speed goes back to the defauls 180.
is this normal? or something has to be done to enable the speed i choose until the next soft reset at least?
Yes, it's normal - and yes, you would have to use some manner of application to re-start the overclock after a suspend. See also the original thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40284
Can somebody tell me how to run this program. Im pretty new to all of this and not sure where to install on my qtek s200 and how to run it.
Thanks!
Kanjibankers said:
Can somebody tell me how to run this program. Im pretty new to all of this and not sure where to install on my qtek s200 and how to run it.
Thanks!
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U device (Qtek s200) is a HTC Magican. This forum is about HTC Wizard. Try to look in Magican forum.
People! When wizard is in suspend it runs on 180 mhz? Can we decrease this value in suspend mode?
oh yeah!!! now, my device [818 Pro] run faster @240MHz...it seems as same as XDA Mini...[even better]...thanx!!!
cheers...Oi...!
i'm confused
i'm using a Dopod 818pro,and i already used the omap overclock v.0.2 ... i copied it into my device (not storage card).then i run it on 252Mhz,and set action..so the speed is already 252Mhz and very fast... but i've got some problem,when i turn my device to standby mode,and when i push the power button to sms someone,i check my speed,it went back to 180MHz,is it normal?? cause if it runs under 180MHz,that means it didn't run at 252MHz right????
thanx any way.....
sort of off topic but that batti program is nice...
it's kind of like the battery meter that comes with spb, but better...
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K4V4N4 said:
i'm using a Dopod 818pro,and i already used the omap overclock v.0.2 ... i copied it into my device (not storage card).then i run it on 252Mhz,and set action..so the speed is already 252Mhz and very fast... but i've got some problem,when i turn my device to standby mode,and when i push the power button to sms someone,i check my speed,it went back to 180MHz,is it normal?? cause if it runs under 180MHz,that means it didn't run at 252MHz right????
thanx any way.....
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Use this cab instead http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56057
Or this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=55782
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!! WM5 = Suck !!

go back to 2003 these roms are a disgrace to microsoft haha go billy gates!
Well if you can't use it - do not use it.
The main point (if you did not notice) is tath there is no official release of WM5 for BA. Thus, saying something about Microsoft's OS that was not designed/adjusted for a given hardware is the same as complaining about stupid Ferrari engine that cannot be installed into a regular Renault.
Ive only had my Blue Angel for a couple of weeks (converted from Symbian UIQ)
I decided to try the lastest Helmi 1.3 and so far it's been great
OK there are a couple of issues but so far i've been happy.
I now no longer backup the phone on a daily basis and have not needed to soft reset for ages , with 2003 it was getting to be a pain in the neck.
Also my bluetooth headset has much better quality on WM5 with no static
So i for one am happy
Explain what problems you're having!!
The AKU ROM's are the best of the lot I say - and I will go as far as saying Helmi's AKU3.2 is as fast as 2003SE (and prettier!). It's stable, most programs work and still being improved!
machmandp said:
I now no longer backup the phone on a daily basis
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<aol>me too!!</aol>
Knowing that running down the battery isn't going to zap your phone is great. Thanks again to all those who helped bring WM5 to the blue angel!!
Personally, I'm still on helmi 1.2 and I find it to be just as reliable or moreso than WM2003.
fraser said:
machmandp said:
I now no longer backup the phone on a daily basis
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<aol>me too!!</aol>
Knowing that running down the battery isn't going to zap your phone is great. Thanks again to all those who helped bring WM5 to the blue angel!!
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yeah, can anyone tell me what is the lifespan of the backup battery? 2 nights ago, before i slept i plugged my BA with only 3hrs remaining battery life... woke up 9 hrs after to see that i forgot to plug the charger to the wall outlet! immediately plugged it in and the BA soft resetted, but lo and behold, everything is still there!
and here's the twist, all my most often used apps are installed in the ramdisk!
can 2003se beat that?
I suggest you first research and review WM5 on BA before complaining, because if you complain without first knowing what you are talking about you, you'll easily turn to an IDIOT in the forums (pun not intended)
Um....why all the replies to a 12 year old proving he's cool?
Indeed. I wonder why he even has the brains to be able to know how to use a browser... or even plug in his computer
I have also converted to Helmi 1.3 and although WM5 was alittle slow, this is no fault of the Rom but the fact that the OS was desgined for faster CPU's. installed XCPUScalar and pumped up the cpu speed from 400 to 530, and yeah sure i do get less battery life, but for me that is not an issue, as I charge while at work.
I am alot happier and although the odd lock up happens, it a helava-lot better than 2003SE
Are you guys F..... crazy
Whay dont you use some programs like Destinator 6 or Tomtom Navigator 5, and check the performance while navigate on maps.
This versions of WM5 are too slow, compared with 2003SE.
I have tested all the versions with no lucky, all GPS programs on WM5 for BlueAngel has a lot of lag on maps.
I have no problems with TomTom... No lags (except long start-up), no hangs, etc...
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cyberbit said:
Whay dont you use some programs like Destinator 6 or Tomtom Navigator 5, and check the performance while navigate on maps.
This versions of WM5 are too slow, compared with 2003SE.
I have tested all the versions with no lucky, all GPS programs on WM5 for BlueAngel has a lot of lag on maps.
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I dont have a problem with TomTom5 as well. True slightly slow start but never any lags or problems. i think ur problem maybe that your cpu is still set to 400mhz and that where tomtom is suffering. pump up ur cpu and see if that helps.
fa147 said:
I have also converted to Helmi 1.3 and although WM5 was alittle slow, this is no fault of the Rom but the fact that the OS was desgined for faster CPU's. installed XCPUScalar and pumped up the cpu speed from 400 to 530, and yeah sure i do get less battery life, but for me that is not an issue, as I charge while at work.
I am alot happier and although the odd lock up happens, it a helava-lot better than 2003SE
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The speed of the CPU isn't the problem, its the type of flash memory used on older pre-WM5 devices.. sure upping the clock helps as I run mine at 590 all the time, but fact of the matter is this is about the fastest we'll ever see WM5 on our BAs because of this hardware problem
Installing to the RAM disk reduces this problem, that's why it's there. The RAM storage is much faster than the ROM areas.
fraser said:
Installing to the RAM disk reduces this problem, that's why it's there. The RAM storage is much faster than the ROM areas.
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Is this 'RAM' the one which zeros itself after battery fully drains?
Yes, but I've had that happen once in 18 months of having the BA. If you only install accessory software to the ramdisk, a reset won't cause you much hastle other than having to reinstall a couple of applications.
I detest the PC installation of apps over activesync now as it unnessarilly clutters up your PC. I just keep all of the cab files a directory on the sdcard. I can hard reset and get everything installed really quickly this way.
So under normal conditions a softreset won't erase data on RAM disk?
nonereal said:
So under normal conditions a softreset won't erase data on RAM disk?
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That's correct. You'd need to either drain the backup battery completely or hard-reset to lose it. It could still happen, which is why I only install apps there. Don't keep any personal docs etc. just in case.
Thnx Fraser

Wizard Omap Overclocking

I'm thinking about overclocking my Wizard beyond the stupid 195 mhz. How 'bout we all put down our clocks so we can have some suggestions on how to overload our Wizards to the max!
Good idea, go ahead and give it a start yourself;]
I've always heard/read that it's unsafe to overclok wizard beyond "the stupid" 240MHz, but i don't quite believe it. Feel free to try and inform me, what say you? ;]
I'm bringing it to 210 right now. Can't say I notice a difference, eh?
As was said by many people on this forum, you won't notice big difference below 240. most programs operate with similar performance, and battery life doesn't change much neither. Only skype is said to run better - personally i didn't feel anything while doing this, so i don't overclock myself after checking it out.
i use to run at 260 with no problems ever. but i decided to go to 240. since there wansnt a big change in preformance from 240~260.
240 is good for the wizzard. I play doom,quake,wolf3d,and skype with no problems.
Skype does make my device hot after 30min of use.
Agreed
Running mine at 240 according to Omapclock. No problems and alot faster.
Yep, been running it at 260 also. I did notice a change in performance with with my bluetooth headphones. Less music dropping out and Arvale I and II seem to catch up with the headphones on.
But yeah, 240 might be my next standard. But battery life wont change? Are we sure?
been running at 260 for a long time now. No problems.
I used to run 240 (24-7), but the phone would "reboot" when on phone calls sometimes. I moved it down to 228 and zero reboots, thus far.
A friend gave me his MDA today as he never used it. I will be doing some testing on that thing this week.
MDA Over Clocked
I have mine set to 252 for over a year without any problems.
--Rod
Im running 312 using the latest OMAP for Trion....it doesnt crash...it works great...I wonder if its actuaally 312 or just say sake..
shivam said:
Im running 312 using the latest OMAP for Trion....it doesnt crash...it works great...I wonder if its actuaally 312 or just say sake..
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You are very brave. Search for the other threads on this topic. I run my at max 260 and use the scale function to "float" down to 143. Works very well.
--M
I've been actually floating myself from 260 and 195. I set it to 260 when I'm impatient waiting for thumbnails in pictures to load up or when I'm playing a heavy graphics game. I only get crashes when I switch from 195 to 260, but that's only when it hasn't been switched for a while.
312 is brave...
I've been at 260 for months, since 273 causes my system to hang / crash. I'd love to go faster...
I only overclock for watching videos or running my GPS software. . . and -- even then -- I limit to 240. Works like a charm and my GPS keeps up with my lead foot.
Limits
Hi,
I'm running 260, but haven't been long enough to see any damage, but the phone is much faster.
How much can these things take?
All my pc's are madly overclocked, but a busted cpu / mainboard are cheaper than a phone.
I've been running at 260 on various ROM's for over a year now. Haven't had any issues with rebooting and it does make a very noticiable difference compared to the standard 195Mhz. I have noticed recently that my battery is starting die big time so I am wondering if the overclocking has taken it's toll.
I run mine at 240 (as per the omap settings) 24-7.
I have just moved to the XM6r2a Lite Version from the standard o2 WM5 release ROM and have had no problems. I found that when I clocked at 260 it would occasionally hang. No problems at 240 though.
My device is the fastest I have ever known it running XM6r2a Lite clocked at 240.
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I tried running at 312 just for the hell of it and found there to be no problems...
at least at first glance. After browsing the net for about 30 min, the screen started to frizz out on me and i couldn't click anything and I noticed my mda was getting quite warm (112 i think, hehe)...
Long story short, It worked well in short bursts..but for the long haul, 312 would have fried my cpu
im running 247 at the moment and i notice a difference

overclocking issue

I have just run the omapclock prog and upped my processor speed from 195mhz to 240mhz and the speed difference is really great... the only problem I have is that i have to reset the clock everytime the wizard goes into standby, has anyone remedied this issue yet and if so what do I do?
Gently does it boyz I am a newbie here so no high tech speak please.
Timax47 said:
I have just run the omapclock prog and upped my processor speed from 195mhz to 240mhz and the speed difference is really great... the only problem I have is that i have to reset the clock everytime the wizard goes into standby, has anyone remedied this issue yet and if so what do I do?
Gently does it boyz I am a newbie here so no high tech speak please.
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there are separate programs that usually help with this. common ones would be omapclockplus, smartskeys, or batterystatus.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271012
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=270751
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=256525
Thx, I used omapclockplus and I now have the speed locked at 240mhz.. it works great

Snails problem

Hi, did anybody tried Snails? It is good game, but on Diamond it is lot a laggy. And thats bad, becou on other phones this game run smoothly even on 200 MHz CPU!
I've got Snails Reloaded and it runs just fine.
ROM is custom based on 20273.
Did you enable GDI cache?
Oh, it is nice to meet someone who knows the thing.
So, there is the story: first, I downloaded Snails Reloaded from PDA Mill (My intention was to try it before buy it) so, I installed it on Original 1.93.401.2 ROM, Instalation run OK, and then first problem came - when I set game settings, and clicked on -->, sound of click was played, but nothing happened. So i clicked it several times, and now the game started, but it was laggy, not much performance, even on my A701 phone set to 100 MHz mode it was maybe better. But, i read benchmark table here on XDA, and I figered out that original 1.93 ROM is kinda slow on games So I flashed last ROM from SwiftBL (5) and tried it again, but the same result, laggy, and multiple clicks needed to start the game.
About GDI cache, I dont know nothink about it, but game like snails should run on 528 MHz CPU perfectly, so I am little frustrated.
I hope you have enought informations, so if you know what should I do, I am listening
So, I searched for that GDI cache thing, and found nothing. But, I dont belive that Diamond´s CPU is unable to run this game smoothly even with original ROM. Is he can not, it is a piece of s***.
Does disabling the sound fix the lag ?
Try maxing out your caches:
Either with advanced config, or add this to your registry:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\GDI\GLYPHCACHE]
"limit"=dword:00020000
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS]
"EnableCache"=dword:00000001
"CacheSize"=dword:00000800
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\ FLASHDRV\FATFS]
"FatCacheSize"=dword:00000200
"DataCacheSize"=dword:00000400
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Filters\f sreplxfilt]
"ReplStoreCacheSize"=dword:00008000
Be careful as it might make your device unstable.
Thanks for reply. I will try it tommorow, it is deep night now at my location. Anyway, I tried next game, anthelion, also from PDAmill, and it runs slow too. I understand that 3D game could be slower, but even menu is laggy, and same thing, Asus P535 on 416 MHz can run it much faster than Diamond in 528 MHz. Maybe some WM 6.1 problem? Do you can play snails withount that problems I described? Does WM 5 has that registry tweaks you wrote me activeted? I played Call Of Duty mobile too, but this game is fater on Diamond that P535. I will try more and I will post.

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