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Dear All,
I would like to share a bit more information on what I found regarding 2.21 IPL/SPL behaviour.
1. Now it is impossible to backup the rom from another machine with pre-2.21 ROM and then try to flash it into the machine by SD Card (i.e. use console mode to connect to the pre-2.21 ROM machine, execute r2sd, then push the SD card to the 2.21 machine w/o CID unlock and boot into flash mode (camera button), it will say 'Not allow update' in the status bar)
2. Now it is also impossible to backup the rom from 2.21 machine using console mode (i.e. r2sd), thus I got no way to extract 2.21 IPL/SPL from my machine. Again this is assumed the machine is not CID unlocked. Machine will say 'not enough security level blah blah....'
3. So what I want to know is- If a machine which is pre-CID unlocked, upgraded to ship rom 2.21+
a. is that still possible to dump the firmware out with r2sd?
b. Also will it accept rom flash in SD card dumped out from other pre 2.21 machine?
Hope we could sort out a solution to free all 2.21+ guys
Someone says its also related to the G3/G4 chip (version # 2.21.0001 means G4, .0000 means G3??) I have no clue on what is that though- anyone can provide us some enlightment?
William Yeung said:
Someone says its also related to the G3/G4 chip (version # 2.21.0001 means G4, .0000 means G3??) I have no clue on what is that though- anyone can provide us some enlightment?
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No, they are just the software version and dont have any relation with the Chip.
Result from JAFWM
Open nk.nbf file with JAFWM v2.2 (Dopod Official Rom)
here is the result.
William Yeung said:
Dear All,
I would like to share a bit more information on what I found regarding 2.21 IPL/SPL behaviour.
1. Now it is impossible to backup the rom from another machine with pre-2.21 ROM and then try to flash it into the machine by SD Card (i.e. use console mode to connect to the pre-2.21 ROM machine, execute r2sd, then push the SD card to the 2.21 machine w/o CID unlock and boot into flash mode (camera button), it will say 'Not allow update' in the status bar)
2. Now it is also impossible to backup the rom from 2.21 machine using console mode (i.e. r2sd), thus I got no way to extract 2.21 IPL/SPL from my machine. Again this is assumed the machine is not CID unlocked. Machine will say 'not enough security level blah blah....'
3. So what I want to know is- If a machine which is pre-CID unlocked, upgraded to ship rom 2.21+
a. is that still possible to dump the firmware out with r2sd?
b. Also will it accept rom flash in SD card dumped out from other pre 2.21 machine?
Hope we could sort out a solution to free all 2.21+ guys
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the anser to your question on point 3.a is yes.done it myself.now reflashing your device with another ones dump it may cause problems because it also flashes back the cid [whatever state it is] and since every device has a unique cid code that is related to the imei it may cause problems like the dreaded DATA CRASH one,but in other hand it could work.u just have to try to find out.if you need a unlocked dump let me know a got one ready to install.
How about the bootloader mode test result? anyone could provide?
Well I think there is a way and may be summitter can tell better.
one use typhoon nbf tools and remove the CID and save the nk.nbf and flash it to device.
secondly dump the rom parts with typho5 and just make a custom ROM with the same IPL/SPL with a new CE ROM...
I hope I am correct
That wont work, you have to try it out yourself. The main issue is if you got a machine comes with 2.21.0001+, then r2sd would not work. This is the essential step for any rom dump operation so far.
Typhoon NBF is even worse because since 2.0 (AKU 2) rom its not able to read by Typhoon NBF.
*faria: Is that mean you can still use r2sd to dump your rom even after your machine upgraded to 2.21+ ROM? Then if there is an O2 Mini S with such config updated, dump rom out, use typho5 to rebuild a new ROM without CID, chance is that we could use that to patch the unit with other rom versions.
William Yeung said:
That wont work, you have to try it out yourself. The main issue is if you got a machine comes with 2.21.0001+, then r2sd would not work. This is the essential step for any rom dump operation so far.
Typhoon NBF is even worse because since 2.0 (AKU 2) rom its not able to read by Typhoon NBF.
*faria: Is that mean you can still use r2sd to dump your rom even after your machine upgraded to 2.21+ ROM? Then if there is an O2 Mini S with such config updated, dump rom out, use typho5 to rebuild a new ROM without CID, chance is that we could use that to patch the unit with other rom versions.
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yes you can still use r2sd in any rom above 2xxxx,but i do not use r2sd for my backups/restores, i use [wizBackup] because it bacups to sd and pc without any conversion required unlike r2sd.
i just made a sd backup of rom 2.23 and restore with out any problems.
rebuilding any rom will not work in a machine cidlocked because when we build the roms it requires the cid field to be blank,if it was that easy any modified rom like [sumiters] would do because all of those roms have the cid field blank when they are converted with nbf connverter.
to be clear about the part of the cid lock that every one is trying to unlock is not in the rom ,it is in the machine in a diferent adress [place if you like] itself so until someone cracks the cid area of the new roms there not much you can do.the problem is noone has the tools for the new roms to bypass cid.
the lokiwiz tool patches the cid area of the device only it doe nothing to yor rom.
so if you try to install a patched rom the machine will compare the cid code in the rom with the one in the machine if it does not match it does not install.1 way arround it to buid you own rom and put the machine cid code on the rom ,the it will install .but that means u cannot create a universal rom, it has to be 1 rom per singe machine with matching cid number.
and yes u can use typho5 to decode/incode 2.xxx roms with any problems,i have been using it i my roms without problems.
Wizard is not such a big problem but for the hermes it is even more interesting. Hard times are coming :roll:
raskal said:
Wizard is not such a big problem but for the hermes it is even more interesting. Hard times are coming :roll:
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Hi Raskal,
If "Wizard is not such a big problem", why don't you keep with the spirit of xda-dev and share your observations and results on the G4 issues with the board?
There are two major areas where I think you have an opportunity to contribute to the community:
1 - Can you assist in the modification of the nb2nbf tool so that both G3 and G4 bootloaders can be rebuilt into an image?
2 - We need some guidance on CID unlocking 2.xx. What have you found in the BL that has made the usual process ineffective?
I'm assuming that since you are a member here, you're willing to give as much as take like the rest of us. I have a great respect for what you have done with various phones of the years, and appreciate that you are in business. However I hope that while you're here you will contribute to the free flow of information.
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raskal said:
Wizard is not such a big problem but for the hermes it is even more interesting. Hard times are coming :roll:
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Hi Raskal,
If "Wizard is not such a big problem", why don't you keep with the spirit of xda-dev and share your observations and results on the G4 issues with the board?
There are two major areas where I think you have an opportunity to contribute to the community:
1 - Can you assist in the modification of the nb2nbf tool so that both G3 and G4 bootloaders can be rebuilt into an image?
2 - We need some guidance on CID unlocking 2.xx. What have you found in the BL that has made the usual process ineffective?
I'm assuming that since you are a member here, you're willing to give as much as take like the rest of us. I have a great respect for what you have done with various phones of the years, and appreciate that you are in business. However I hope that while you're here you will contribute to the free flow of information.
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I am reading this forum and i learned a lot from it. This is the reason i donate and will continue to donate as long as this forum is helpfull because the guys are handling this forum simply deserve it, webspace cost money, traffic costs money and they also spend a lot of time for the mainatance of the forum, time is money. This is my contribution sofar.
On other way, i am not a lover of freeware. My devices costs money because i also spend my time developing it, and i also have a company with 30 employees and i am responsable every moth at 30 to pay them their salary and assure them the salary for their next month. Also my partner is dealing with phones, do you not think i would be very sad when i see that our competition unlocking/debranding phones with OUR FREE SOFTWARE ?
All i want to say, i am willing share information, but i am not willing share any information regarding unlocking/debranding since it will affect my own buiness.
raskal said:
summiter said:
raskal said:
Wizard is not such a big problem but for the hermes it is even more interesting. Hard times are coming :roll:
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Hi Raskal,
If "Wizard is not such a big problem", why don't you keep with the spirit of xda-dev and share your observations and results on the G4 issues with the board?
There are two major areas where I think you have an opportunity to contribute to the community:
1 - Can you assist in the modification of the nb2nbf tool so that both G3 and G4 bootloaders can be rebuilt into an image?
2 - We need some guidance on CID unlocking 2.xx. What have you found in the BL that has made the usual process ineffective?
I'm assuming that since you are a member here, you're willing to give as much as take like the rest of us. I have a great respect for what you have done with various phones of the years, and appreciate that you are in business. However I hope that while you're here you will contribute to the free flow of information.
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I am reading this forum and i learned a lot from it. This is the reason i donate and will continue to donate as long as this forum is helpfull because the guys are handling this forum simply deserve it, webspace cost money, traffic costs money and they also spend a lot of time for the mainatance of the forum, time is money. This is my contribution sofar.
On other way, i am not a lover of freeware. My devices costs money because i also spend my time developing it, and i also have a company with 30 employees and i am responsable every moth at 30 to pay them their salary and assure them the salary for their next month. Also my partner is dealing with phones, do you not think i would be very sad when i see that our competition unlocking/debranding phones with OUR FREE SOFTWARE ?
All i want to say, i am willing share information, but i am not willing share any information regarding unlocking/debranding since it will affect my own buiness.
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I'm pretty sure that nowhere in my message was there a request for free software.
We'll continue our efforts here as a community to share ideas and create working and free solutions for all.
Quick question - does your ROM collection include any of the custom ROMs created by and for folks here on xda-dev?
well, at least he donates a fair bit to the site... machinagod!! When can we see Lokiwiz 3.x with CID Unlocking!!?
i guess if machinegod and others, did not post is tools and info here,some companys would have a dent in their revenue. and then one would think....
why do i bother?!!!!
hjkl;' why no delete?
Hello,
I may be new to this scene but I am very interested in being a helpful member of this community. Specifically, I would like to make a german GPS-enabled ROM from a romdump.
I found a lot of very usefull information on this board and the wiki. However I'm a little afraid to brick my little P3600 in the process.
So here are my questions to the XDA-Developer gurus:
1) Any suggestions on what NOT to do, i.e. which actions can potentially brick a device
2) Can I take any safety precautions that make the ROM cooking life easier or safer?
3) Could one of you help me by chat (IRC, ICQ, MSN, Skype) in case I have some specific issues?
4) Any other comments, interesting howtos or must-reads?
Thanks in advance, I hope I'll be able to pull this off.
PS: Also if someone with a german GPS-enabled ROM reads this, please contact me! I need a romdump first
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1) Any suggestions on what NOT to do, i.e. which actions can potentially brick a device
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1) Use aChefs utils 2.0 only.
2) Don't forget to check your ouput OS.nb file with OCchecker by Olipro
3) You should have SPL 1.01 MFG, coz if your device doesn't boot you wont be able to use sspl for downgrade.
4) Read more about bootloader commands
5) Don't use special tytn's tools for rom coocking, coz there is some difference. You have big risk to brick your device if you flash it.
6) You need some resource editor tool and you should know how to sign the ouput files
7) You do all at your own risk
Thanks mun_rus that is very helpful.
Concerning 5): I intend to follow these tutorials:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HowtoDumpRom
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HowtoReconstruct
As far as I can tell all those tools are not TYTN-specific, right?
By the way, I think its great that you give "newbie"-cooks a chance. Maybe I'll soon be able to return something to this great community!
Concerning 5): I intend to follow these tutorials:
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Use aChef tools for creating dump and reconstructing a rom) it's more easier
If by "aChef Tools" you mean this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294364&highlight=achef
I don't see any mention of a dumping tool. Maybe i used the term cooking wrong: I want to produce a flashable ROM from a ROM dump that somebody else will do.
In my mind the steps should be:
1) Dump german GPS ROM
2) Extract all files from part02.raw
3) Reconstruct os using any proper tool (you recommend aChef)
4) Check os.nb with OCchecker
5) Flash os.nb to my Trinity (install Hard-SPL first)
6) Flash radio ROM with GPS support to my Trinity (actually its already on there
7) Enjoy german GPS rom
8) Make it easy for others to flash, maybe package of OS and radio ROM.
Any corrections?
Spl 1.01 Mfg
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...You should have SPL 1.01 MFG, coz if your device doesn't boot you wont be able to use sspl for downgrade...
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mun_rus, where can we download this bootloader version? I am in desperate need of it.
Thank you!
prsnow said:
mun_rus, where can we download this bootloader version? I am in desperate need of it.
Thank you!
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Ive got this bootloader when i unlocked my phone with imeicheck unlocker. I don't know where you can download it.
mun_rus said:
Ive got this bootloader when i unlocked my phone with imeicheck unlocker. I don't know where you can download it.
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But you won't dump it and post it here, will you?
Hi people,
I bought a htc p4350. Unfortunatly it come's with the english rom, but i need to change it to portuguese, as this htc is to offer to my girlfriend.
I've already been looking for threads concerning this, but as i am a rookie, i don't understand preety much.
I've already dowloaded the official portuguese rom, and that's all i have in my pc. I was wondering if someone of the experts in here, could give me a hand and explain me what tools needed, and the steps required to make this operation.
I,ve seen a lot of people whose pda's turned to bricks, and i didn't wanted to be a part of them, and it's cause i am a rookie that i'm begging for some guidance before make a huge mistake
portuguese greetings,
what is the spl/ipl on your device?
because the device came with an english rom, you cannot flash a portugese rom without some fun modifications. These are called cid-unlocks, and you have two choices- HardSPL, which is permanent and practically unbrickable once you get it on there, or USPL, which is temporary and easy to use for factory returns. Both of these tools, which you say you have, require you to have an IPL and SPL of greater than 4.
thanks for the reply, i'm going to check (as the herald is at my girlfriends house) and when i have an answer, i tell you so you can give me more feedback and guidance.
ipl 4.17.0001 and spl 4.17.0000
what to do now?
Do you have a ptg rom?
use uspl or hard spl to install the rom
Hi,
I have since one week a Blackstone from Drei (www.drei.at):
ROM 1.56.407.2 (43972) ger
Datum 04/03/09
CE OS 5.2.20769 build 20769.1.4.5
Change the language i think is not possible without to install English-ROM.
If i try to download ROM-upgrade from htc/support (http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload) with my Serial Number i get always the german-version.
Theoretic if i have the Serial Number from "English" Device probable i can change the language from german to english.
It is correct?
If yes, how can i get this english Serial Number? Perhaps exchange with someone from this Forum?
regards
Thomas
don't think about some serialnumbers to get from here. just open your eyes, choose a rom of your choice and here we go. you'll find also the latest HTC roms here somewhere around or linked.
djevaHD said:
Hi,
I have since one week a Blackstone from Drei (www.drei.at):
ROM 1.56.407.2 (43972) ger
Datum 04/03/09
CE OS 5.2.20769 build 20769.1.4.5
Change the language i think is not possible without to install English-ROM.
If i try to download ROM-upgrade from htc/support (http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload) with my Serial Number i get always the german-version.
Theoretic if i have the Serial Number from "English" Device probable i can change the language from german to english.
It is correct?
If yes, how can i get this english Serial Number? Perhaps exchange with someone from this Forum?
regards
Thomas
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Even if you downloaded the WWE-ROM here you cannot flash it becuase your Device is CID-locked. You habe to unlock it first. Even for this you could have found the Info in this forum.
Good luck!
Hi,
My Device is't locked. I did this over sim-unlocker.com.
From other side i'm not professional or guru. I thought as much that serialnumber should be no problem (i will give my serialnumber without problems).
Anyway " just open your eyes, choose a rom of your choice and here we go."
Its easy to say...
regards
Thomas
Hi again,
I have HD Device with German Version:
ROM: RUU_BlackStone_HTC_GER_1.56.407.2_Radio_52.60.25.33_1.12.25.16DE_Ship.exe
But i want English version (WWE).
Is is possible with install of this ROM:
RUU_BlackStone_HKCSL_WWE_1.57.831.1_Radio_52.64.25.34_1.14.25.24_Ship.exe
My logic says yes but i'm not Professional. Has anyone experience before i do this?
regards
T.
that rom is the latest official rom.
but i would recommend to install hspl before.
see my signature.
you might also think about flashing custom roms
djevaHD said:
Hi again,
I have HD Device with German Version:
ROM: RUU_BlackStone_HTC_GER_1.56.407.2_Radio_52.60.25.33_1.12.25.16DE_Ship.exe
But i want English version (WWE).
Is is possible with install of this ROM:
RUU_BlackStone_HKCSL_WWE_1.57.831.1_Radio_52.64.25.34_1.14.25.24_Ship.exe
My logic says yes but i'm not Professional. Has anyone experience before i do this?
regards
T.
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1. You have to CID-Unlock your device
2. You should use Hard-SPL (or at least USPL)
3. Choose any WWE-version of ROM and flash it
But first of all: read how to flash you device in oder to keep it alive. It´s easy but you have to read.
Some threads ahead is the following sticky one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377
Hi all,
At first thank you for the answers!
Second: What do you mean Sir, "to keep alive the device"? Is this upgrade dangerous? If yes then i will not do this. I will keep my german version.
I'm still a greenhorn and i need more information regarding the threads 505377 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377).
I have already read this threads and i'm little bit confused. I checked that my SPL is: SPL-1.54.0000.
So, the steps:
1. Install Hard-SPL (of course - successful).
- should i take all files for HSPL and go to "post2"?
1. HSPLWrapper_Blackstone_156OliNex.zip
2. USPL GUI v 2.5.zip
3. RUU_Signed_Blackstone_stockSPL154.zip
4. BlackstoneRUUWrapper.zip
5. SSPL-Manual-TouchHD.zip
- "post2" page:
1. HSPLWrapper_Blackstone_156OliNex.zip (equal with the 1. above)
2. A 1.56+ based rom- Dutty's XT 3.7 --> what is this?
3. BlackstoneRUUWrapper.zip (equal with the 4. file above)
4. SSPL-Manual-TouchHD.zip (equal with the 5. file above)
result: Do i need "USPL GUI v 2.5.zip" and "RUU_Signed_Blackstone_stockSPL154.zip" and what about "A 1.56+ based rom- Dutty's XT 3.7" ?
Please explanation of "Place your phone into its bootloader." Sir.
This?
- Turn it off.
- Hold the volume down button while you press the power on button.
- You should see a tri-color screen with some text.
- Plug in your phone to your computer via USB. At the very bottom of the screen it should show USB.
2. If the first is OK then install the Englich Version: "RUU_BlackStone_HKCSL_WWE_1.57.831.1_Radio_52.64.25 .34_1.14.25.24_Ship.exe"
or i need something else?
I will be very grateful for any help and suppor?
regards from Graz-Austria
Thomas
djevaHD said:
Hi all,
At first thank you for the answers!
Second: What do you mean Sir, "to keep alive the device"? Is this upgrade dangerous? If yes then i will not do this. I will keep my german version.
I'm still a greenhorn and i need more information regarding the threads 505377 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377).
I have already read this threads and i'm little bit confused. I checked that my SPL is: SPL-1.54.0000.
So, the steps:
1. Install Hard-SPL (of course - successful).
- should i take all files for HSPL and go to "post2"?
1. HSPLWrapper_Blackstone_156OliNex.zip
2. USPL GUI v 2.5.zip
3. RUU_Signed_Blackstone_stockSPL154.zip
4. BlackstoneRUUWrapper.zip
5. SSPL-Manual-TouchHD.zip
- "post2" page:
1. HSPLWrapper_Blackstone_156OliNex.zip (equal with the 1. above)
2. A 1.56+ based rom- Dutty's XT 3.7 --> what is this?
3. BlackstoneRUUWrapper.zip (equal with the 4. file above)
4. SSPL-Manual-TouchHD.zip (equal with the 5. file above)
result: Do i need "USPL GUI v 2.5.zip" and "RUU_Signed_Blackstone_stockSPL154.zip" and what about "A 1.56+ based rom- Dutty's XT 3.7" ?
Please explanation of "Place your phone into its bootloader." Sir.
This?
- Turn it off.
- Hold the volume down button while you press the power on button.
- You should see a tri-color screen with some text.
- Plug in your phone to your computer via USB. At the very bottom of the screen it should show USB.
2. If the first is OK then install the Englich Version: "RUU_BlackStone_HKCSL_WWE_1.57.831.1_Radio_52.64.25 .34_1.14.25.24_Ship.exe"
or i need something else?
I will be very grateful for any help and suppor?
regards from Graz-Austria
Thomas
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upgrading rom (official or custom) is always a critical moment. you can break your device. hspl will make sure that you can restart your flashing procedure.
i have been using wm devices for years now and flashing have become to one of my hobies. so i am quite familiar with flashing but even for me it was hard to really understand the thread you mentioned above.
i have chosen to install hspl instead of uspl because this is what i have been using on other devices for years now (to other readers who are in favour of uspl: yes of course uspl is also very good, blablabla) but let's give newbies a clear start and he can decide later for other spls)
to answer the first question: you only need one spl which is in this case 1.56olinex. nothing more and nothing else.
now you are prepared to install any rom you like
and yes - what you described is the bootloader
second question:
yes, you can install that rom. again, here are many roms you can install.
but i see that you are very cautious - in this case you should really go to htc website (as you did), enter your serial number and install the rom htc is providing you with (even if it is not the language you prefer).
Hi
Yes, Sir i'm very cautious because i'm not profi. Thank you for the tip but..
I still don't know which file i need (Step 1 - Install spl) to install the Hard-SPL. Only "HSPLWrapper_Blackstone_156OliNex.zip"?
The second step is clear.
Thank you a lot
regards
Thomas
correct.
once hspl is installed there is no reason to be cautious anymore
it does not make any difference in flashing official roms or custom roms.
Ok i'm not cautious anymore. All i need is only one file namely, the "HSPLWrapper_Blackstone_156OliNex.zip".
Should I follow the references from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377 ?
First i need .NET 3.5.
Then regarding: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3930436&postcount=2 It concerns the following ...
HSPL1 - Downloads (i got it!)
HSPL2 - Flash new SPL (1.56.OliNex or HSPLWrapper_Blackstone_156OliNex.exe) (i got it!)
HSPL3 - Check SPL version (i got it!)
HSPL4 - Flash new 1.56+ rom Why? I did this in HSPL2
What is that -> "A 1.56+ based rom- Dutty's XT 3.7".
regards
Thomas
in step hspl2 you updated your spl. this has nothing to do with flashing the rom (i.e. OS) itself, which you do in step hspl4.
"A 1.56+ based rom- Dutty's XT 3.7" means that you should from now on only flash roms whose version number is 1.56 or above (and dutty's rom XT3.7 is just one of them). all the latest roms here are based on version 1.56 or higher. but no problem if you flash an older rom. you will see screen color prolems right after booting. just reflash the correct rom.
but i have to admit that the tutorial would need some tuning in terms of clarification.
let´s say it in easy words:
The SPL of a device is like the BIOS of your PC.
All devices are locked by the providers in this SPL.
eg. if u buy an O2 Blackstone, you´re only able to flash O2 roms,
if u buy the official HTC Blackstone, you´re only able to flash official HTC Roms for your Region (in your case GER) ...
This lock is called CID Lock or Country-ID Lock.
To remove this lock, you have 2 options:
You can temporarly remove the lock just to flash any other ROM. After the rom is flashed and the device reboots, it´s locked again. (If anything goes wrong here, u need a Rom from your Provider matching your CID to recover the device!!) <- so if you want to do this, you need USPL
You can also permanantly remove the lock, and flash anything you want by flashing to a patched SPL. <- if you want to do this, you have to take HSPL by Olinex.
Pro and Cons:
If u take USPL, you will keep your (original) SPL, but still locked to your provider. You´ll need a official Rom matching your CID to restore when something goes wrong.
If u take HSPL, you can simply flash anything you want and how much you want. But you can get problems with warrenty if the device has technical problems in the future. When problems occure and you have to send the device to repair, you can flash an official Rom containing a official SPL or just an official (stock) SPL. But only if u are still able to flash
It´s your decition. I prefer HSPL...
Hi all,
Excuse me if apparentely it's can seems I repeat old and answred question, but sincerely I have not yet sufficentely clear ideas on how I can flash my blackstone with an updated Rom.
I want remark that I have a decent knowledge on developing a program for W.M., but I confess that after read various threads and articles about, I remained in a great confusion yet!
The question:
I have a branded (Tim) Blackstone:
BLAC100 32M
SPL-1.13.0000
MicroP-BlackStone (Led) v6
Device Info:
ROM Version 1.13.401.0 (20428)ITA
ROM Date 10/25/08
Radio Version 1.09.25.14
Protocol Version: 52.49a.25.26W
This device ABSOLUTELY need to be upgraded to the Rom 1.56 (but first of all I WANT TO UNBRAND it).
After an initial problem (caused by the unricognized S/N), I dowloaded (using another S/N) from Htc the File:
RUU_BlackStone_HTC_ITA_1.56.408.0_Radio_52.62.25.34_1.13.25.24_Ship.exe
To upgrade my device, I want to preserve only the country and the language, because I read that it is necessary to preserve the A-Gps funtionalities (data changes country by coutry). Is it thrue?
I understood that I can't use it, cause the Tim brand of my device.
In my case only the brand is not matching, while the language and country are apparentely matching.
(But, why the "401" of my device is not matching with the "408" of file I downloaded? Can I use the file with this unmatching country code?)
1) - I have a great confusion on SPL, HSPL, SSPL, USPL.
2) - I have a great confusion because I not understood if Radio Rom upgrade and Rom upgrade are 2 different processes or not.
3) - Is the Rom version related (developed) for a specific Hardware version (as it is logical to think)?
4) - Is the Radio rom "country sensitive"? (As I think that each country have a different GSM Net).
5) - If want upgrade both radio and rom, what instrument exactely I need?
Please can you clear my ideas.... and doubts?
Thanks
Ignazio
Ok, you have managed to get an official HTC rom, you can also find some more here
If you use HSPL or USPL, this will allow you to flash the new rom. If you are intending on staying on the official rom, uspl will probably be the best option for you to use.
In response to your questions:
1) SPL - Second Program Loader is a boot loader after IPL (Initial Program Loader) often seen on smart phones and PDA's. SPL is similar to a BIOS in a computer and can be flashed and updated.
The difference between USPL and HSPL:
* HSPL is an user-modified SPL that you have to flash to your phone. It overwrites the existing SPL on your device with a "hacked" one so to say. It allows you to bypass the HTC certificate check and flash unsigned or CID-mismatching roms to your phone. You only have to flash it once and then you can flash roms anytime.
* USPL is a temporary solution. It takes advantage of an exploit in the existing SPL and then loads a modified one to memory, effectively allowing the same thing as HSPL. However, since this is only memory-resident you have to do it each time you want to flash unsigned or CID-mismatching roms to your phone, because this exploited state is lost upon reboot. With USPL you must still have the right version of the HTC SPL that is compatible with the rom you want to use.
* SSPL is just another method of getting to change the spl and is only really needed if you experience problems using one of the other methods.
Hopefully this makes it a little clearer for you.
2) It depends. The radio is in most cases included in the rom. The rom you are looking to use included a radio. This is shown by the 1.13.25.24 in the name of your rom, so if you install that rom it will also update the radio in a single process. You can however also only upgrade the radio and then it is done as a separate process and will not affect the rom.
3) All the roms are initially developed for a particular hardware configuration I would imagine, but there are many fantastic chefs here on xda who take roms meant for other devices and are able to port some of the components to a cooked rom which can then be used on a number of different devices.
4) Yes, radios are country and area sensitive, so what works well for one person in a particular area would possibly not work as well for you.
5) You will need to use either hspl or uspl in order to upgrade your radio (if you are using one intended for an HTC). Some people have taken radios from other devices such as the Omnia, but in order to flash these radios you need to do a security unlock of your device and there are special tools that allow you to do this, but this is really only a last resort if you can't find an HTC radio that works for you.
The steps to follow in order to flash are described in the Dummies Guide to Flashing (see link in my signature) and if you have any further questions, please ask them in that thread.
Thanks for reply,
You cleared at least 70% of my doubts.
hurricane3000 said:
Thanks for reply,
You cleared at least 70% of my doubts.
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Pleasure, so what are the remaining 30%?
Rom Problems..
hi..
i got my blackstone from service today because they changed my mother board.now i want to change my room to be more faster and have that winmo 6.5..i have read a lot but there are to many informations to understand..can someone tell me pls how i can change my rom,from first thing to the last and for that what rom to download?
step by step links or something would be great..i tryed myself but there is to many information for me to now what to choose..
thanks and i am looking forward for an answer
thekingro said:
hi..
i got my blackstone from service today because they changed my mother board.now i want to change my room to be more faster and have that winmo 6.5..i have read a lot but there are to many informations to understand..can someone tell me pls how i can change my rom,from first thing to the last and for that what rom to download?
step by step links or something would be great..i tryed myself but there is to many information for me to now what to choose..
thanks and i am looking forward for an answer
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Read the Dummies Guide (link in my signature). If you have any more queries please post them in that thread as this one is likely to be closed down soon.
ROMS are a personal thing, so have a look at a few and read some of the more popular threads (ie the ones that keep popping to the top) and depending on the feedback received from users make a choice. Once you've flashed once it becomes addictive and you'll try a few before you find one that suits you.
another thing
after i follow all the steps from there all roms should work..after that finnishing them i start that rom update launcher that comes with every rom?
Continuing on Dummies Guide thread.......
As above, continue on dummies guide
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