Dear All,
I would like to share a bit more information on what I found regarding 2.21 IPL/SPL behaviour.
1. Now it is impossible to backup the rom from another machine with pre-2.21 ROM and then try to flash it into the machine by SD Card (i.e. use console mode to connect to the pre-2.21 ROM machine, execute r2sd, then push the SD card to the 2.21 machine w/o CID unlock and boot into flash mode (camera button), it will say 'Not allow update' in the status bar)
2. Now it is also impossible to backup the rom from 2.21 machine using console mode (i.e. r2sd), thus I got no way to extract 2.21 IPL/SPL from my machine. Again this is assumed the machine is not CID unlocked. Machine will say 'not enough security level blah blah....'
3. So what I want to know is- If a machine which is pre-CID unlocked, upgraded to ship rom 2.21+
a. is that still possible to dump the firmware out with r2sd?
b. Also will it accept rom flash in SD card dumped out from other pre 2.21 machine?
Hope we could sort out a solution to free all 2.21+ guys
Someone says its also related to the G3/G4 chip (version # 2.21.0001 means G4, .0000 means G3??) I have no clue on what is that though- anyone can provide us some enlightment?
William Yeung said:
Someone says its also related to the G3/G4 chip (version # 2.21.0001 means G4, .0000 means G3??) I have no clue on what is that though- anyone can provide us some enlightment?
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No, they are just the software version and dont have any relation with the Chip.
Result from JAFWM
Open nk.nbf file with JAFWM v2.2 (Dopod Official Rom)
here is the result.
William Yeung said:
Dear All,
I would like to share a bit more information on what I found regarding 2.21 IPL/SPL behaviour.
1. Now it is impossible to backup the rom from another machine with pre-2.21 ROM and then try to flash it into the machine by SD Card (i.e. use console mode to connect to the pre-2.21 ROM machine, execute r2sd, then push the SD card to the 2.21 machine w/o CID unlock and boot into flash mode (camera button), it will say 'Not allow update' in the status bar)
2. Now it is also impossible to backup the rom from 2.21 machine using console mode (i.e. r2sd), thus I got no way to extract 2.21 IPL/SPL from my machine. Again this is assumed the machine is not CID unlocked. Machine will say 'not enough security level blah blah....'
3. So what I want to know is- If a machine which is pre-CID unlocked, upgraded to ship rom 2.21+
a. is that still possible to dump the firmware out with r2sd?
b. Also will it accept rom flash in SD card dumped out from other pre 2.21 machine?
Hope we could sort out a solution to free all 2.21+ guys
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the anser to your question on point 3.a is yes.done it myself.now reflashing your device with another ones dump it may cause problems because it also flashes back the cid [whatever state it is] and since every device has a unique cid code that is related to the imei it may cause problems like the dreaded DATA CRASH one,but in other hand it could work.u just have to try to find out.if you need a unlocked dump let me know a got one ready to install.
How about the bootloader mode test result? anyone could provide?
Well I think there is a way and may be summitter can tell better.
one use typhoon nbf tools and remove the CID and save the nk.nbf and flash it to device.
secondly dump the rom parts with typho5 and just make a custom ROM with the same IPL/SPL with a new CE ROM...
I hope I am correct
That wont work, you have to try it out yourself. The main issue is if you got a machine comes with 2.21.0001+, then r2sd would not work. This is the essential step for any rom dump operation so far.
Typhoon NBF is even worse because since 2.0 (AKU 2) rom its not able to read by Typhoon NBF.
*faria: Is that mean you can still use r2sd to dump your rom even after your machine upgraded to 2.21+ ROM? Then if there is an O2 Mini S with such config updated, dump rom out, use typho5 to rebuild a new ROM without CID, chance is that we could use that to patch the unit with other rom versions.
William Yeung said:
That wont work, you have to try it out yourself. The main issue is if you got a machine comes with 2.21.0001+, then r2sd would not work. This is the essential step for any rom dump operation so far.
Typhoon NBF is even worse because since 2.0 (AKU 2) rom its not able to read by Typhoon NBF.
*faria: Is that mean you can still use r2sd to dump your rom even after your machine upgraded to 2.21+ ROM? Then if there is an O2 Mini S with such config updated, dump rom out, use typho5 to rebuild a new ROM without CID, chance is that we could use that to patch the unit with other rom versions.
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yes you can still use r2sd in any rom above 2xxxx,but i do not use r2sd for my backups/restores, i use [wizBackup] because it bacups to sd and pc without any conversion required unlike r2sd.
i just made a sd backup of rom 2.23 and restore with out any problems.
rebuilding any rom will not work in a machine cidlocked because when we build the roms it requires the cid field to be blank,if it was that easy any modified rom like [sumiters] would do because all of those roms have the cid field blank when they are converted with nbf connverter.
to be clear about the part of the cid lock that every one is trying to unlock is not in the rom ,it is in the machine in a diferent adress [place if you like] itself so until someone cracks the cid area of the new roms there not much you can do.the problem is noone has the tools for the new roms to bypass cid.
the lokiwiz tool patches the cid area of the device only it doe nothing to yor rom.
so if you try to install a patched rom the machine will compare the cid code in the rom with the one in the machine if it does not match it does not install.1 way arround it to buid you own rom and put the machine cid code on the rom ,the it will install .but that means u cannot create a universal rom, it has to be 1 rom per singe machine with matching cid number.
and yes u can use typho5 to decode/incode 2.xxx roms with any problems,i have been using it i my roms without problems.
Wizard is not such a big problem but for the hermes it is even more interesting. Hard times are coming :roll:
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Wizard is not such a big problem but for the hermes it is even more interesting. Hard times are coming :roll:
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Hi Raskal,
If "Wizard is not such a big problem", why don't you keep with the spirit of xda-dev and share your observations and results on the G4 issues with the board?
There are two major areas where I think you have an opportunity to contribute to the community:
1 - Can you assist in the modification of the nb2nbf tool so that both G3 and G4 bootloaders can be rebuilt into an image?
2 - We need some guidance on CID unlocking 2.xx. What have you found in the BL that has made the usual process ineffective?
I'm assuming that since you are a member here, you're willing to give as much as take like the rest of us. I have a great respect for what you have done with various phones of the years, and appreciate that you are in business. However I hope that while you're here you will contribute to the free flow of information.
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raskal said:
Wizard is not such a big problem but for the hermes it is even more interesting. Hard times are coming :roll:
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Hi Raskal,
If "Wizard is not such a big problem", why don't you keep with the spirit of xda-dev and share your observations and results on the G4 issues with the board?
There are two major areas where I think you have an opportunity to contribute to the community:
1 - Can you assist in the modification of the nb2nbf tool so that both G3 and G4 bootloaders can be rebuilt into an image?
2 - We need some guidance on CID unlocking 2.xx. What have you found in the BL that has made the usual process ineffective?
I'm assuming that since you are a member here, you're willing to give as much as take like the rest of us. I have a great respect for what you have done with various phones of the years, and appreciate that you are in business. However I hope that while you're here you will contribute to the free flow of information.
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I am reading this forum and i learned a lot from it. This is the reason i donate and will continue to donate as long as this forum is helpfull because the guys are handling this forum simply deserve it, webspace cost money, traffic costs money and they also spend a lot of time for the mainatance of the forum, time is money. This is my contribution sofar.
On other way, i am not a lover of freeware. My devices costs money because i also spend my time developing it, and i also have a company with 30 employees and i am responsable every moth at 30 to pay them their salary and assure them the salary for their next month. Also my partner is dealing with phones, do you not think i would be very sad when i see that our competition unlocking/debranding phones with OUR FREE SOFTWARE ?
All i want to say, i am willing share information, but i am not willing share any information regarding unlocking/debranding since it will affect my own buiness.
raskal said:
summiter said:
raskal said:
Wizard is not such a big problem but for the hermes it is even more interesting. Hard times are coming :roll:
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Hi Raskal,
If "Wizard is not such a big problem", why don't you keep with the spirit of xda-dev and share your observations and results on the G4 issues with the board?
There are two major areas where I think you have an opportunity to contribute to the community:
1 - Can you assist in the modification of the nb2nbf tool so that both G3 and G4 bootloaders can be rebuilt into an image?
2 - We need some guidance on CID unlocking 2.xx. What have you found in the BL that has made the usual process ineffective?
I'm assuming that since you are a member here, you're willing to give as much as take like the rest of us. I have a great respect for what you have done with various phones of the years, and appreciate that you are in business. However I hope that while you're here you will contribute to the free flow of information.
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I am reading this forum and i learned a lot from it. This is the reason i donate and will continue to donate as long as this forum is helpfull because the guys are handling this forum simply deserve it, webspace cost money, traffic costs money and they also spend a lot of time for the mainatance of the forum, time is money. This is my contribution sofar.
On other way, i am not a lover of freeware. My devices costs money because i also spend my time developing it, and i also have a company with 30 employees and i am responsable every moth at 30 to pay them their salary and assure them the salary for their next month. Also my partner is dealing with phones, do you not think i would be very sad when i see that our competition unlocking/debranding phones with OUR FREE SOFTWARE ?
All i want to say, i am willing share information, but i am not willing share any information regarding unlocking/debranding since it will affect my own buiness.
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I'm pretty sure that nowhere in my message was there a request for free software.
We'll continue our efforts here as a community to share ideas and create working and free solutions for all.
Quick question - does your ROM collection include any of the custom ROMs created by and for folks here on xda-dev?
well, at least he donates a fair bit to the site... machinagod!! When can we see Lokiwiz 3.x with CID Unlocking!!?
i guess if machinegod and others, did not post is tools and info here,some companys would have a dent in their revenue. and then one would think....
why do i bother?!!!!
hjkl;' why no delete?
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Ok, I will preface this by saying I am a veteran of Wallaby upgrading. I had one of those for a long time and probably used two dozen different ROMs on it. I cooked my own, and I nearly paper-weighted it or the radio stack a gillion times. I can definitely figure things out for myself.
That said, there is very little useful information as to how the upgrade process works with the Blue Angel. For those of us in the US on Cingular with the SX66, we have no update out at all, and we're very much stuck.
Things I don't get:
1. Extended ROM. Actually, I know what it is. What I don't know is, because it exists, does that mean that the base ROM is completely carrier independant? In other words, if I take an Imate or Qtek ROM and install that, but keep my carrier's Ext ROM, will things be the same? (assuming the same language, WWE) Are the base ROMs ever updated, or is it the extended ROM?
2. Where are the tools? The wiki is very out of date, and I don't know what the proper tools are to use. Do I write to an SD card, or do it over USB?
3. Is the radio stack updated by a first run program on the device itself, or is that done from the computer? Do RSU updates come with base ROM updates?
4. There seem to be new security measures taken to hinder our tinkering with the ROMs. How safe is it to change things (for purposes of "going back")? I dunno what else to ask about this...
Feel free to answer any or all of these questions, and for the love of God, don't tell me to search--I did.
Well said, but good luck getting answer around here.
I'll give it a try, but some answer could be plainly wrong, since I don't have a blueangel.
Blueangel and himalaya upgrading are very similar so this page is not so outdated:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HimalayaRomkitchen
But the mayor problem is indeed the new encryption method used :
ER2003edit or xda3nbftools don't support it (yet)
thus :
* you can't change the countrycode/language anymore
* you can't change the extended rom ms_.nbf
but the extenderomunlocker still works for Blueangel, although you have to use the Blueangel version, so after an upgrade, you can still manipulate the extended rom on your pda & hard reset.
BlueAngel Extended Rom unlocker
Blue Angel Romkitchen thread
thread about the new encryption
Answers :
1: You probably will get a country code error if you try a nk.nbf from another provider. Base roms and radio rom do get upgrades, but I don't know which one are already available for blueAngel. Base and Radio are carrier independant.
2 : Tools : see links above
3 : see himalayaRomkitchen
4 : You can make a backup on SD, but can't seem to find a link right now.
Hello All,
Yes I am a newby here and I have tried to search for my answers so please do not flame me too bad.. I have an 8125 on Cingular service that has the origional ROM and I would like to upgrade it. I have reviewed the post and they are really hard to follow as they split off to multiple threads and almost always assume that you know the correct steps to follow.
Has anyone posted a "how to" for those of us that are new here? If not would someone like to talk me through it?
Thanks so much for your help
Mark
I am looking for the same thing.
Any one know of any how-to's?
It's very simple.
Connect the phone to your PC with the USB cable
CID unlock the phone
SIM unlock the phone
Double-click the upgrade ROM on your PC - it automatically installs
Restore your settings to your phone
You only need to unlock the CID and SIM once. There's a program called lokiwiz which you can download from this board. It runs in text mode, but it's very simple... just be sure to un-zip it to the root of your C:\ drive (it must be C:\Lokiwiz, don't put it in your Program Files folder).
You run Lokiwiz twice, once to SIM unlock and again to CID unlock. There are several threads here about how to run this software; the only "gotcha" is that it only works on the older software (which your phone has now).
After your install the new ROM, your phone is "factory clean." All of your phone numbers and settings are gone, so you have to restore them.
To restore your settings:
Run ActiveSync to restore your contacts and appointments
Go into the e-mail app to re-configure your e-mail settings
Re-install any add-on software you were using
I literally just got my 8125 a week ago, I haven't had time to do much with it yet either. I have downloaded just about every file I think I will need, and I already have a bluetooth headset, and bluetooth GPS mouse
Personally I think we should all back-up our phones right now before doing anything else, hah.
I'm currently searching on how to do this, I have downloaded Wiz backup.
Also I just want to add I currently havewhen booting up phone)
IPL 1.08
SPL 1.08
Radio 01.09.11
OS 1.8.11.1
Looking under device information:
ROM ver./Date : 1.8.11.1 WWE / 11/24/05
Protocol version: 4.0.13.20
Extended Rom version: 1.8.11.103
So I'm also researching "from where my device is starting" what is the best ROM or software upgrade to perform, and unlock tool to use.
Any information is much appreciated, good luck to us beginners, and thanks for any more experience on advice taking proper precautions backing up, in a way that will definately restore original software and settings.
I really don't need a $400.00 brick!
I literally just got my 8125 a week ago, I haven't had time to do much with it yet either. I have downloaded just about every file I think I will need, and I already have a bluetooth headset, and bluetooth GPS mouse
Personally I think we should all back-up our phones right now before doing anything else, hah.
I'm currently searching on how to do this, I have downloaded Wiz backup.
Also I just want to add I currently havewhen booting up phone)
IPL 1.08
SPL 1.08
Radio 01.09.11
OS 1.8.11.1
Looking under device information:
ROM ver./Date : 1.8.11.1 WWE / 11/24/05
Protocol version: 4.0.13.20
Extended Rom version: 1.8.11.103
So I'm also researching "from where my device is starting" what is the best ROM or software upgrade to perform, and unlock tool to use.
Any information is much appreciated, good luck to us beginners, and thanks for any more experience on advice taking proper precautions backing up, in a way that will definately restore original software and settings.
I really don't need a $400.00 brick!
BEWARE OF WIZBACKUP!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53132
you do not need to SIM unlock phone to do a rom update ..
just CID unlock
bign90 said:
Hello All,
Yes I am a newby here and I have tried to search for my answers so please do not flame me too bad.. I have an 8125 on Cingular service that has the origional ROM and I would like to upgrade it. I have reviewed the post and they are really hard to follow as they split off to multiple threads and almost always assume that you know the correct steps to follow.
Has anyone posted a "how to" for those of us that are new here? If not would someone like to talk me through it?
Thanks so much for your help
Mark
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Here is how I started at this site
Start with http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ the wiki pages are a great source for the basics on unlocking, acronyms, general information and questions. It made reading and understanding the threads much easier. I may be a geek but I’m no programmer. I’ve flashed my phone half dozen times & yes I have screwed it up a couple times by not following the instructions, but never “bricked” my phone.
My philosophy has always been RTFM (Read the F___ Manual)…. Well since the Cingular manual and inside scoop on how these HTC phones operate & program was non existent, welcome to the biggest online manual available! It may not be the best organized and simplest to follow, but man there’s a lot of good information here.
Good luck & welcome to the board!!
8)
Thank you lotech for that post...looks like good advice.
I have a newly bought Cingular 8125 in India. I would love to Upgrade that.
Though the box says it is for UK, I can use with the service providers in India.
I assume it is unlocked already.(is it really?)
This is my device information at boot:-
IPL: 2.25
SPL: 2.25
GSM: 02.25.11
OS: 2.25.11.1
I am planning to use Molsky.Biz ROM available here:-
RUU_Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_WWE (G3 Device. IPL/SPL like: 2.xx)
I hope my device is G3.
Do I need to CIDUnlock my device? What is the FullUnlock?
Molsky.Biz says:-
" Also DO NOT FORGET to CID UNLOCK your Wizard. This is only possible with LokiWiz 0.2b and
IPL/SPL 1.xx, if you have a CID LOCKED Wizard with IPL/SPL 2.xx.0001 flash a G4 Rom !! "
But My IPL/SPL is not 1.xx as you can see above in my details.
What should I do to unlock? Do I need to do that at all?
and what is meant by AKU? Do I need that?
I sold my nokia and communicator to buy this phone. So dont want to brick it because of my ignorance!
Please guide me.
Many Thanks.
Read this thread and follow it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116
Your phone is a G3. If the IPL and SPL has more than 2 digits after the first decimal (ie: 2.xx.xx) then it's a G4.
As for unlocking, that confuses the bejesus out of me.
I would say download the G3 ROM, figure out how to unlock your phone (if possible) and then you should be good to go.
You SHOULD be scared given all the threads around here from people who trashed their phones. And I'd bet few of them could give a straight answer as to why they wanted to do so in the first place. So before you do anything, define why you want to update the rom. Does it do something specific that you absolutely can't live without and makes it worth the risk of ruining the phone? Maybe a custom rom is a tiny bit faster but in a day's time, will it make any difference? Probably not, and an operator rom that's a tiny bit slower is still a LOT faster than a dead phone. Don't forget that the moment you start flashing with anything but an operator approved rom, you're out of warrantee. if you absolutely MUST update the rom, then start reading the link above. Every question you asked has already been answered here many, many times. Is your phone a G3 or a G4? Better know BEFORE you start. Oops...you're at 55% and your PC crashes...what do you do? Better know BEFORE you start. The phone reboots and won't go past the splash screen, what do you do now? Better know BEFORE you start.
Thank you all for the replies.
The main reason for flashing it to the new rom was speed and space considerations.
I was owning an XDA Mini earlier and successfully did the BigStorage and Rom updates.
But seeing many users bricking their wizard here and being not sure about the 'unlocking thing' i've decided to atleast not to venture into the bleeding edge atleast during my warranty period.
I know many questions might have been answered many a times, but the answers too are very contextual, they are different for different versions / models etc.
Hopefully I will do it sometime next year!
i would vote the warranty period is the best time to do it.. then you can tell your provider you tried to update their rom and now your phone dont work and let them send you a replacement...
Flashing isnt all that scary, the first time its a little nerve racking, but then again i like living on the edge...
So if your gonna do it, here is a quick simple explanation...
Downgrade to a 1.xx rom from the FTP site, after the your IPL/SPL should show 1.xx during boot up (mine actually differed, had IPL 1.xx SPL 2.xx and still unlocked just fine, some people claim to have issues though)
after successfully booting run lokwiz 2b (its the one i used) do the sim and supercid unlock.
Then reflash a stock 2.xx rom so that you are sure to get the updated bootloaders, after that has completed successfully then flash any rom you want..
its that simple, just a little time consuming
How to copy the cab file(enable rapi) to your device and run it before running lokiwi
Please disreegard below. Just found it.
Thanks..
I am kind of new in this.
I want to unlock the device but do not know how to
copy the cab file(enable rapi) to your device and run it before running lokiwiz.
I will appreciate your help on this so I can continue with the upgrades.
Thanks in Advance.
1 - Unzip lokiwiz02b.zip to somewhere (extract to c:\lokiwiz) in your computer
2. Connect your phone via ActiveSync to your PC . Browse your phone with File Explorer from your PC.
3 - Copy EnableRapi.cab to your Wizard (My Document)
4 - Execute the EnableRapi.cab in your phone. Wait for it to finish
5 - Guarantee that your phone is connected via activesync with the computer
6 - Execute lokiwiz.bat (from your computer run c:\lokiwiz\lokiwiz.bat, double click on that file) and follow the instructions on your screen...
7 - Select Option U to unlock your Wiz.
Dear All,
i downloaded the original rom for cingular 8125 from www.htcamerica.net and i updated the rom at 95% it was interupted by error 326 corrupted nk.nbf file
i read much in this forum about that problem but i really got confused from several solutions and i tried them all like COOKING A NEW rom i failed to cook a room and otherwise all the links here from the FTP site are damaged
plz i need the cooked rom directly be uploaded here newly not a link cuz all links for WIZARD are damaged in the FTP
now plz explain me in detail what can i do
2nd if any program will be upload plz manually upload it again i am so sorry
by the way the phone now current state when you power up its just on the splash screen only my original rom version is the latest version 2.25 thanks a lot plz help me in that disaster
centrinouk said:
Dear All,
i downloaded the original rom for cingular 8125 from www.htcamerica.net and i updated the rom at 95% it was interupted by error 326 corrupted nk.nbf file
i read much in this forum about that problem but i really got confused from several solutions and i tried them all like COOKING A NEW rom i failed to cook a room and otherwise all the links here from the FTP site are damaged
plz i need the cooked rom directly be uploaded here newly not a link cuz all links for WIZARD are damaged in the FTP
now plz explain me in detail what can i do
2nd if any program will be upload plz manually upload it again i am so sorry
by the way the phone now current state when you power up its just on the splash screen only my original rom version is the latest version 2.25 thanks a lot plz help me in that disaster
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The links are not damaged. The ROM images have been removed from the FTP per Microsoft's request, and the reason you find yourself here is one of the reasons MS and Carriers have asked these ROMS be removed. The other reason is because of leaked/modded ROMS that weren't supposed to be released for certain devices, and due to what MS calls violation of Intellectual Property rights.
Before doing any modifications to any WM device, its crucial that you know whats involved in doing so and the possible consequences that may arise if you make a mistake. This modding process takes a lot of reading and then some.
When I first started on this forum I made the same mistake of trying to install the ROM at htcamerica.net on my new wizard (because of lockups) as you have done not knowing what I was doing. I ended up bricking my device.
From your Post I know you have a device that has an IPL/SPL of 2.xx.0001. This means that you have a G4 device. G4 devices were introduced into the market to make it harder to modify them. G3 devices lack the .0001 on the end and are easier to mod. Of course the manufacturer and carrier isn't very open about this. All of this is covered in the Wiki. Fortunately I was able to follow the instructions in the Wiki and was able to Modify an original ROM and revive my bricked device.
I recommend you do some more reading, and if you are completely stumped send me a PM and I'll try to walk you through this... Of course... no guarantees your device will be recoverable. In an effort to fix their devices, some people end up damaging the device beyond repair and require that they be sent in for expensive repairs or replacement.
Removed pending posting of instructions.
What is this for?
Thanx.
Prislav said:
Hi!
Subj - http://rapidshare.com/files/76444771/wzg3.7z
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Sorry, not meant as a slam, but someone with only 21 posts, puts up a Rapidshare link for something to flash to a Wizard saying its HardSPL and no other instructions or information... Sorry (again, no offense meant by this) but I wouldn't flash something that is unexplained (if there is another post about this, then at least give a pointer to that in the first post).
FWIW: HardSPL is a way of making your device almost unbrickable. If it works like with the Hermes and Kaiser HardSPL, then you do the steps needed to install this, instead of the old CID unlock procedure of having to go back to the Button ROM and running lokiwiz.
But still, I'd be careful flashing something like this until more is known about it (the source, instructions for the method to install it, etc).
Totally agreed! I wouldn't go for it!
I don't mind to brick my wizard again!
mfrazzz
I with you agree, but...
I shall be immodest - please read ALL my messages ;-)
Instructions are not present because I do not wish to be responsible for another's nonsense. To whom it is necessary that will understand.
mfrazzz said:
Sorry, not meant as a slam, but someone with only 21 posts, puts up a Rapidshare link for something to flash to a Wizard saying its HardSPL and no other instructions or information... Sorry (again, no offense meant by this) but I wouldn't flash something that is unexplained (if there is another post about this, then at least give a pointer to that in the first post).
FWIW: HardSPL is a way of making your device almost unbrickable. If it works like with the Hermes and Kaiser HardSPL, then you do the steps needed to install this, instead of the old CID unlock procedure of having to go back to the Button ROM and running lokiwiz.
But still, I'd be careful flashing something like this until more is known about it (the source, instructions for the method to install it, etc).
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Lokiwiz has been a trusted and faithful friend. Until I get more info, instructions, screeners even...I will keep using my trusted friend Loki.
No offense to the OP, but "read my other posts" doesn't tell us much. Your other posts are just like this one. Short and to the point, no real info given...nothing telling me how to install/run it. Nothing troubleshooting if an issue should arise. Read the Loki thread, or Dr. P's tutorial...everything anyone needs to know about Loki is there. Yours...not so much.
Hey, all I need is a "no-answer" answer from the poster and that's enough for me to hold back.
Prislav said:
mfrazzz
I with you agree, but...
I shall be immodest - please read ALL my messages ;-)
Instructions are not present because I do not wish to be responsible for another's nonsense. To whom it is necessary that will understand.
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Very irresponsible attitude,don't post if you are not sure what it's all about,but if you post than have the courage to standby it.
i tried on my friends wizard not mine.. .copy alll those files on wizard.. and click spl.lnk..and see the difference...
zabardast_1 said:
Very irresponsible attitude,don't post if you are not sure what it's all about,but if you post than have the courage to standby it.
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Very true!!
IF, you check his entries, other posts like this one have been made in other device sections. Now how all the mighty guru's here have somehow overlooked this ability, and he has manged to make it happen...
When a dev here releases something, it is does with so much info that if something does happen, a person KNOWS it can be fixed. To say:
Instructions are not present because I do not wish to be responsible for another's nonsense. To whom it is necessary that will understand.
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Tells me this person really gives a sh*t less about whether or not my usage helps or kills my device. Real nice attitude there...makes me really confident about using the linky.
And to the poster above...you feel so confident about it that you tried it on a friends wizard??? If it does work, as you say, please give us more details about it...since we have none really.
Until we see some directions as well as a bit more transparency from the OP, I'm removing the link. OP, please PM me when you have fulfilled those requirements.
jwzg said:
Until we see some directions as well as a bit more transparency from the OP, I'm removing the link. OP, please PM me when you have fulfilled those requirements.
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Thank you.
I certaily wasn't about to take the risk, especially with the attitude from the OP.
Again, thanks.
Guys dont bombard like this , Prislav has always presented raw content like this in Prophet forum also. Maintaining the terminology, just see diagram, might be useful- simple
But im not favouring any one. please!
I force nobody. Do not want, it is not necessary. To me it is not important.
Well this thread seems nice and hostile .
Unless I am missing something all Prislav has done is to use JumpSPL by Pof (Nice WinCE Tramp by the way ) to fire off a patched G3 SoftSPL and from there let you launch into the ROM update routine.
Prislav’s post may have been a little short on details but there is plenty of info on the board and in his previous threads on the subject. Pof's JumpSPL thread is also a goldmine of info.
Prislav also seems to have been kind enough to provide a patched 'flashable' SPL for G3 devices.
I have not tried this yet (my G3 junkers are at home, so I will tonight) but looking at the dumps of the files and the steps that Prislav has gone through I think this should work.
The SoftSPL seems to contain nothing dangerous and I test launched it on a G4 I have on my desk to no adverse affect (in fact it did almost what I expected, not sure it is putting the device into the correct 'wait for USB' state mind you but it does answer to prods from MTTY ).
Looking at the way the file is patched (and my limited knowledge in this area may let me down, I am more of an ARM Linux hacker) is very interesting. It also looks very much like this could be wrapped into a SoftSPL flashtool that just soft patches a G3 before flashing (and also gives users a choice to flash a HardSPL if wanted, just like we do with G4’s and most modern HTC devices).
Ok,
Just an update to my last post,
I found an old G3 with a broken keyboard under my desk. IPL/SPL 2.17, ancient radio and AKU2.
SoftSPL via JumpSPL from Pof/Prislav seems to work fine .
Converted the Hard-SPL.nb to an nk.nbf (with just the SPL in it).
Flashed the resulting nk.nbf.
Device is now running a patched SPL (2.H4).
Just upgraded device to WM6 from an off the shelf ROM (had Jag 4.0 handy) using the usual NVID update tool.
The end result is an old, unhacked WM5 G3 upgraded to WM6 in a matter of mins.
Download: I will edit this post when I get home and have had a chance to upload the files to my site. - Stuck at work right now.
Edit @ 22:00, 17th Jan: Download is now up here. Use with care and don't come crying to me (or Prislav ).
HowTo: Install PatchedSPL on a G3 Wizard (or just run a SoftSPL if you flash another OS ROM at step 7 with the included flash tool).
Warning: I have only tried this with 2.* IPL’s/SPL’s, I can’t be sure it will not brick devices running 3.* or 1.* IPL’s/SPL’s. It will be a few days before I can test this so if you have a 3.* or 1.* bootloader I would suggest you leave this well alone. Do not try this on a G4, there is no point and you may well brick it .
1: Install latest ActiveSync (If you’re upgrading from WM5-6 your going to need it)
2: Download the rar from my website.
3: Copy the contents of the “Copy to root of G3 Wizard device” folder to the ROOT of your Wizard using ActiveSync.
4: From File Explorer run the SPL shortcut from the root of the device.
5: Wait for the screen to go white (you are now running a patched SoftSPL running from RAM),
6: Unplug and reconnect the USB lead to the PC (you can check the connection with MTTY if your so inclined).
7: Wait a few seconds and start the ROM upgrade in “Flash-WizG3-PatchedSPL”.
If all goes well this will work just like a normal ROM update (without anything shown on your Wizard’s screen) and your device will reboot after a few mins.
Check the version of the SPL running, if it is SPL version 2.H4 all should be fine and your now running a CID unlocked device that can take any Wizard ROM.
John
What's the difference between CID unlock(using LokiWiz) and this proceudure (Hard Spl)?
AldoWeb said:
What's the difference between CID unlock(using LokiWiz) and this procedure (Hard Spl)?
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To be honest, very little. Both leave you free to flash a ROM of your choice .
This just uses the same 'methods' as used with newer HTC devices and the G4 Wizards.
It will also be easy enough to wrap with ROM's to create 'G3' SoftSPL upgrades that flash to any G3 device without messing about. Just grab the installer, drop your nb.nbf of choice and run the upgrade.
I'll try and bundle up such an installer tonight if I get time.
Hmmm, why do I feel like I have hijacked this thread .
John
So You mean:
You can Create such an installer than given a certain NBF (OS) does even the CID unlock itself.
It would be great
Aldo